Wes has a history of airing out personal life issues of other people on the cast whether they're true or not. Objectively (because I did get a good laugh out of it), I don't think Jordan should've gone there, and I don't think MTV should've even aired it, but it's not like he hasn't dished it out himself.
I was actually surprised Sarah raised her voice to Nia during the dinner thing. Not because it's Nia but because Sarah usually stays calm and doesn't get into drama.
Sarah's here to win this time...it was a little surprising
Sarah did say herself " I'm tired of being the nice girl" its great to see her not take any BS.
So Jordan kept claiming throughout this episode that he wants to send Wes and Theresa because they were a strong teamand keep a weak team for the finals, but if they REALLY thought about it, then it would undeniable be Nany/Johnny vs Theresa/Wes. These two teams are the best at finals no doubt (dispite what we saw on Rivals, Wes is great at finals). I mean, Johnny has won so many and Nany kept a good pace throughout the free agents final. It would be a win-win for them. Nia hasn't really proven much yet and Leroy is mediocre at best during finals. I mean their plan was still good, but could have had improvements.
I was actually surprised Sarah raised her voice to Nia during the dinner thing. Not because it's Nia but because Sarah usually stays calm and doesn't get into drama.
Sarah's here to win this time...it was a little surprising
Sarah did say herself " I'm tired of being the nice girl" its great to see her not take any BS.
I feel like I'm the only one who never saw her as "the nice girl" lol back in her early challenges, I always saw her as "the cocky girl"
I was actually surprised Sarah raised her voice to Nia during the dinner thing. Not because it's Nia but because Sarah usually stays calm and doesn't get into drama.
Sarah's here to win this time...it was a little surprising
Sarah did say herself " I'm tired of being the nice girl" its great to see her not take any BS.
I feel like I'm the only one who never saw her as "the nice girl" lol back in her early challenges, I always saw her as "the cocky girl"
I think she misspoke. I believe what she meant to say was that she is tired of not taking the initiative and doing what she wants to right from the get go.
I was actually surprised Sarah raised her voice to Nia during the dinner thing. Not because it's Nia but because Sarah usually stays calm and doesn't get into drama.
Sarah's here to win this time...it was a little surprising
Sarah did say herself " I'm tired of being the nice girl" its great to see her not take any BS.
I feel like I'm the only one who never saw her as "the nice girl" lol back in her early challenges, I always saw her as "the cocky girl"
I was actually surprised Sarah raised her voice to Nia during the dinner thing. Not because it's Nia but because Sarah usually stays calm and doesn't get into drama.
Sarah's here to win this time...it was a little surprising
Sarah did say herself " I'm tired of being the nice girl" its great to see her not take any BS.
I feel like I'm the only one who never saw her as "the nice girl" lol back in her early challenges, I always saw her as "the cocky girl"
I think she misspoke. I believe what she meant to say was that she is tired of not taking the initiative and doing what she wants to right from the get go.
If only more people on this show had that mindset.....
I think Sarah should have sent in Bananas and Nany if she really wanted to prove she wasn't playing "nice girl". She ended up just doing Bananas' dirty work.
life long Challenge fan; new to vevmo (only commented once before a year ago!) I've seen a lot of people pointing out that no one can really define their Nany-hate... allow me to explain mine, at least.
Lemme just say that 1. i used to be nany's #1 fan since her RW season. until rivals ii, i think, is when it just left... 2. I do not condone slut-shaming and am very happy Nia apologized for those specific statements.
I personally never got over how most of the girls treated Diem on Rivals II and that's where people went sour for me. I really never got over specifically how jemmye, camila, and the rest (including nany) talked shit on Diem while she was being injected with hormones post-chemo in the challenge house while doing the challenge that season. and I do honestly believe a lot of that hate (at least on nany's part) came from Diem's (rightful) claim on CT.
It *shouldn't* matter who a grown woman sleeps with -- you are all 100% right about that. However who one sleeps with and the context in which that happens does matter if you are to determine whether you like a person for their character. Nany's hookup with Johnny R. was ****** up because she was with Cohutta. Nany hooking up with CT on Rivals II while his very serious, chemo-recovering ex is there also kissing on him is ****** up (and if you want to point out others who hooked up with CT fine, but im not talking about them, im talking about Nany)... and let's not get into her whole history but those two specifically cast some shady personal qualities about her life choices that I do take into consideration.
NOW, in the context of a game to win money where you are paired with an ex, and Nany has a slew of options including two Johnnys and a CT among others... and who your partner is will have a huge bearing on whether you win money in this game... i can see where the in-house nany hate comes from. not JUSTIFING it... but i can see it. Your sexual history IS relevant in the game, being a part of the most determining factor in the game - your partner... it's relevant in politicking, etc. and when one has cast such a wide net as Nany has on so many good players... i'm not gonna lie, if i was there, i'd side-eye the **** outta that poor girl. and dont lie to yourself if you're trying to say you wouldn't either.
I used to love nany, but her shit-talking Diem in rivals ii killed her for me...and then riding laurel's d in free agents came off whack and disingenuine as ****...and the context in several of her in-house challenge hookups are less than favorable...I'm over the girl. Maybe if Nia and Nany become friends, the power of my love for Nia might bring her back to life for me...
P.S.... if MTV sends a rape victim home next ep for some BS they wanna label sexual assault, i am going to be ******. I will ahve to see what it is...maybe it is something serious... but if it's some BS, it's gonna rub me the wrong way that MTV wants to teach a rape survivor a lesson about sexual assault... really ****** up.
life long Challenge fan; new to vevmo (only commented once before a year ago!) I've seen a lot of people pointing out that no one can really define their Nany-hate... allow me to explain mine, at least.
Lemme just say that 1. i used to be nany's #1 fan since her RW season. until rivals ii, i think, is when it just left... 2. I do not condone slut-shaming and am very happy Nia apologized for those specific statements.
I personally never got over how most of the girls treated Diem on Rivals II and that's where people went sour for me. I really never got over specifically how jemmye, camila, and the rest (including nany) talked shit on Diem while she was being injected with hormones post-chemo in the challenge house while doing the challenge that season. and I do honestly believe a lot of that hate (at least on nany's part) came from Diem's (rightful) claim on CT.
It *shouldn't* matter who a grown woman sleeps with -- you are all 100% right about that. However who one sleeps with and the context in which that happens does matter if you are to determine whether you like a person for their character. Nany's hookup with Johnny R. was ****** up because she was with Cohutta. Nany hooking up with CT on Rivals II while his very serious, chemo-recovering ex is there also kissing on him is ****** up (and if you want to point out others who hooked up with CT fine, but im not talking about them, im talking about Nany)... and let's not get into her whole history but those two specifically cast some shady personal qualities about her life choices that I do take into consideration.
NOW, in the context of a game to win money where you are paired with an ex, and Nany has a slew of options including two Johnnys and a CT among others... and who your partner is will have a huge bearing on whether you win money in this game... i can see where the in-house nany hate comes from. not JUSTIFING it... but i can see it. Your sexual history IS relevant in the game, being a part of the most determining factor in the game - your partner... it's relevant in politicking, etc. and when one has cast such a wide net as Nany has on so many good players... i'm not gonna lie, if i was there, i'd side-eye the **** outta that poor girl. and dont lie to yourself if you're trying to say you wouldn't either.
I used to love nany, but her shit-talking Diem in rivals ii killed her for me...and then riding laurel's d in free agents came off whack and disingenuine as ****...and the context in several of her in-house challenge hookups are less than favorable...I'm over the girl. Maybe if Nia and Nany become friends, the power of my love for Nia might bring her back to life for me...
P.S.... if MTV sends a rape victim home next ep for some BS they wanna label sexual assault, i am going to be ******. I will ahve to see what it is...maybe it is something serious... but if it's some BS, it's gonna rub me the wrong way that MTV wants to teach a rape survivor a lesson about sexual assault... really ****** up.
I'm not actually sure, so anyone else can correct me if I'm wrong.
Nany was not with Cohutta on FA. She thought of Cohutta as a best friend, with a deeper connection rooted between them than what a "best friend" relationship would be. Cohutta had feelings for her, Nany might have mentioned she had something for Cohutta too, but they were not together.
I'm not actually sure, so anyone else can correct me if I'm wrong.
Nany was not with Cohutta on FA. She thought of Cohutta as a best friend, with a deeper connection rooted between them than what a "best friend" relationship would be. Cohutta had feelings for her, Nany might have mentioned she had something for Cohutta too, but they were not together.
They weren't like BF/GF or anything like that, but for me from a viewer perspective it made her look bad to an extent. I mean she admitted as much at the time.
As far as Diem on Rivals 2 goes...I really feel weird about saying anything g against her, but she kind of acted like a spoiled brat. She tried to claim Cooke and Cara Maria(aiyiyiyiyi) didn't deserve to be there when Diem had many of the boys on her side preventing her from ever being thrown in as long as she didn't get last place. But when she did lose, she flipped out from what I remember.
I think Sarah should have sent in Bananas and Nany if she really wanted to prove she wasn't playing "nice girl". She ended up just doing Bananas' dirty work.
She wouldn't **** off her closest ally, especially when that means if bananas won he'd sent Jordan & Sarah in next time
life long Challenge fan; new to vevmo (only commented once before a year ago!) I've seen a lot of people pointing out that no one can really define their Nany-hate... allow me to explain mine, at least.
Lemme just say that 1. i used to be nany's #1 fan since her RW season. until rivals ii, i think, is when it just left... 2. I do not condone slut-shaming and am very happy Nia apologized for those specific statements.
I personally never got over how most of the girls treated Diem on Rivals II and that's where people went sour for me. I really never got over specifically how jemmye, camila, and the rest (including nany) talked shit on Diem while she was being injected with hormones post-chemo in the challenge house while doing the challenge that season. and I do honestly believe a lot of that hate (at least on nany's part) came from Diem's (rightful) claim on CT.
It *shouldn't* matter who a grown woman sleeps with -- you are all 100% right about that. However who one sleeps with and the context in which that happens does matter if you are to determine whether you like a person for their character. Nany's hookup with Johnny R. was ****** up because she was with Cohutta. Nany hooking up with CT on Rivals II while his very serious, chemo-recovering ex is there also kissing on him is ****** up (and if you want to point out others who hooked up with CT fine, but im not talking about them, im talking about Nany)... and let's not get into her whole history but those two specifically cast some shady personal qualities about her life choices that I do take into consideration.
NOW, in the context of a game to win money where you are paired with an ex, and Nany has a slew of options including two Johnnys and a CT among others... and who your partner is will have a huge bearing on whether you win money in this game... i can see where the in-house nany hate comes from. not JUSTIFING it... but i can see it. Your sexual history IS relevant in the game, being a part of the most determining factor in the game - your partner... it's relevant in politicking, etc. and when one has cast such a wide net as Nany has on so many good players... i'm not gonna lie, if i was there, i'd side-eye the **** outta that poor girl. and dont lie to yourself if you're trying to say you wouldn't either.
I used to love nany, but her shit-talking Diem in rivals ii killed her for me...and then riding laurel's d in free agents came off whack and disingenuine as ****...and the context in several of her in-house challenge hookups are less than favorable...I'm over the girl. Maybe if Nia and Nany become friends, the power of my love for Nia might bring her back to life for me...
P.S.... if MTV sends a rape victim home next ep for some BS they wanna label sexual assault, i am going to be ******. I will ahve to see what it is...maybe it is something serious... but if it's some BS, it's gonna rub me the wrong way that MTV wants to teach a rape survivor a lesson about sexual assault... really ****** up.
So you waited this long to post on here & the first thing you post about is your hate & negative thoughts for Nany. Your basically hating someone you don't know based on an edited tv show. Great first post ( sense the sarcasm)!! Next time try therapy you might get better results lol.
life long Challenge fan; new to vevmo (only commented once before a year ago!) I've seen a lot of people pointing out that no one can really define their Nany-hate... allow me to explain mine, at least.
Lemme just say that 1. i used to be nany's #1 fan since her RW season. until rivals ii, i think, is when it just left... 2. I do not condone slut-shaming and am very happy Nia apologized for those specific statements.
I personally never got over how most of the girls treated Diem on Rivals II and that's where people went sour for me. I really never got over specifically how jemmye, camila, and the rest (including nany) talked shit on Diem while she was being injected with hormones post-chemo in the challenge house while doing the challenge that season. and I do honestly believe a lot of that hate (at least on nany's part) came from Diem's (rightful) claim on CT.
It *shouldn't* matter who a grown woman sleeps with -- you are all 100% right about that. However who one sleeps with and the context in which that happens does matter if you are to determine whether you like a person for their character. Nany's hookup with Johnny R. was ****** up because she was with Cohutta. Nany hooking up with CT on Rivals II while his very serious, chemo-recovering ex is there also kissing on him is ****** up (and if you want to point out others who hooked up with CT fine, but im not talking about them, im talking about Nany)... and let's not get into her whole history but those two specifically cast some shady personal qualities about her life choices that I do take into consideration.
NOW, in the context of a game to win money where you are paired with an ex, and Nany has a slew of options including two Johnnys and a CT among others... and who your partner is will have a huge bearing on whether you win money in this game... i can see where the in-house nany hate comes from. not JUSTIFING it... but i can see it. Your sexual history IS relevant in the game, being a part of the most determining factor in the game - your partner... it's relevant in politicking, etc. and when one has cast such a wide net as Nany has on so many good players... i'm not gonna lie, if i was there, i'd side-eye the **** outta that poor girl. and dont lie to yourself if you're trying to say you wouldn't either.
I used to love nany, but her shit-talking Diem in rivals ii killed her for me...and then riding laurel's d in free agents came off whack and disingenuine as ****...and the context in several of her in-house challenge hookups are less than favorable...I'm over the girl. Maybe if Nia and Nany become friends, the power of my love for Nia might bring her back to life for me...
P.S.... if MTV sends a rape victim home next ep for some BS they wanna label sexual assault, i am going to be ******. I will ahve to see what it is...maybe it is something serious... but if it's some BS, it's gonna rub me the wrong way that MTV wants to teach a rape survivor a lesson about sexual assault... really ****** up.
So you waited this long to post on here & the first thing you post about is your hate & negative thoughts for Nany. Your basically hating someone you don't know based on an edited tv show. Great first post ( sense the sarcasm)!! Next time try therapy you might get better results lol.
This really wasn't that hateful at all smh cut it out with the dramatics. She expressed her opinion very well.
The thing with the Cohutta is yeah I 100% felt bad for him but remember they edit events how of order so she could have slept with Reily before her and Cohutta atually really discussed what they were and how strong their feelings were. Also she did tell Cohutta everything according to her and him, it just wasn't shown. He said before he left he knew everything that happened. Should she had slept with Reily when she kind of had something going on with someone else? Probably not but at the end of the day they weren't together and who knows when her and Reily actually took place and what her and Cohutta's status was at the time.
Nany and Cohutta started dating at the reunion offically. In Rivals 2 after Nany slept with Reily she fault like she cheated on Cohutta which made her see that she actually had feeling for him.
life long Challenge fan; new to vevmo (only commented once before a year ago!) I've seen a lot of people pointing out that no one can really define their Nany-hate... allow me to explain mine, at least.
Lemme just say that 1. i used to be nany's #1 fan since her RW season. until rivals ii, i think, is when it just left... 2. I do not condone slut-shaming and am very happy Nia apologized for those specific statements.
I personally never got over how most of the girls treated Diem on Rivals II and that's where people went sour for me. I really never got over specifically how jemmye, camila, and the rest (including nany) talked shit on Diem while she was being injected with hormones post-chemo in the challenge house while doing the challenge that season. and I do honestly believe a lot of that hate (at least on nany's part) came from Diem's (rightful) claim on CT.
It *shouldn't* matter who a grown woman sleeps with -- you are all 100% right about that. However who one sleeps with and the context in which that happens does matter if you are to determine whether you like a person for their character. Nany's hookup with Johnny R. was ****** up because she was with Cohutta. Nany hooking up with CT on Rivals II while his very serious, chemo-recovering ex is there also kissing on him is ****** up (and if you want to point out others who hooked up with CT fine, but im not talking about them, im talking about Nany)... and let's not get into her whole history but those two specifically cast some shady personal qualities about her life choices that I do take into consideration.
NOW, in the context of a game to win money where you are paired with an ex, and Nany has a slew of options including two Johnnys and a CT among others... and who your partner is will have a huge bearing on whether you win money in this game... i can see where the in-house nany hate comes from. not JUSTIFING it... but i can see it. Your sexual history IS relevant in the game, being a part of the most determining factor in the game - your partner... it's relevant in politicking, etc. and when one has cast such a wide net as Nany has on so many good players... i'm not gonna lie, if i was there, i'd side-eye the **** outta that poor girl. and dont lie to yourself if you're trying to say you wouldn't either.
I used to love nany, but her shit-talking Diem in rivals ii killed her for me...and then riding laurel's d in free agents came off whack and disingenuine as ****...and the context in several of her in-house challenge hookups are less than favorable...I'm over the girl. Maybe if Nia and Nany become friends, the power of my love for Nia might bring her back to life for me...
P.S.... if MTV sends a rape victim home next ep for some BS they wanna label sexual assault, i am going to be ******. I will ahve to see what it is...maybe it is something serious... but if it's some BS, it's gonna rub me the wrong way that MTV wants to teach a rape survivor a lesson about sexual assault... really ****** up.
So you waited this long to post on here & the first thing you post about is your hate & negative thoughts for Nany. Your basically hating someone you don't know based on an edited tv show. Great first post ( sense the sarcasm)!! Next time try therapy you might get better results lol.
This really wasn't that hateful at all smh cut it out with the dramatics. She expressed her opinion very well.
Expressed herself very well? Did we read the same comment?
It *shouldn't* matter who a grown woman sleeps with -- you are all 100% right about that. However who one sleeps with and the context in which that happens does matter if you are to determine whether you like a person for their character. Nany's hookup with Johnny R. was ****** up because she was with Cohutta.
As others have pointed out to you, Nany wasn't with Cohutta at the time. Sure, they kind of had a thing going on with each other during Rivals 2, but they didn't officially become a couple until AFTER Rivals 2 ended.
Nany hooking up with CT on Rivals II while his very serious, chemo-recovering ex is there also kissing on him is ****** up (and if you want to point out others who hooked up with CT fine, but im not talking about them, im talking about Nany)... and let's not get into her whole history but those two specifically cast some shady personal qualities about her life choices that I do take into consideration.
I though Nany and CT hooking up was only a rumor? If this did actually happen then yes, I can agree it was messed up for Nany to do that, but shouldn't the blame belong more and CT? He is the one who was in an on/off relationship with Diem, not Nany. I'm sick of this attitude that it's always the woman's fault while the guy gets a free pass because "boys will be boys."
I used to love nany, but her shit-talking Diem in rivals ii killed her for me...
I don't even remember Nany saying anything particularly bad about Diem. She got mad at Diem for that "**** rap" she made about Nany (which Diem lied about even though multiple people told Nany they heard Diem making fun of her). Other than that, I don't recall them having a problem with each other.
What I do remember is Diem getting screamed at by Camilla and Jemmye. Do you hate them too?
and the context of in several of her in-house challenge hook ups are less than favorable
That's true for the majority of the cast, like CT for example, yet everybody still loves him.
CT and Nany hooked up after Rivals 2. Not during, it was before Diem and him got back together. Look CT was single and so was Diem so they can both do whatever they want. Diem was cool with Nany after that, she has actually been cool with a lot of people who have hooked up with or flirted with CT...Ana/Mandi/Laurel. The only person Diem had a problem with in regards to CT was Cooke because Cooke said malicious things about her.
CT and Nany hooked up after Rivals 2. Not during, it was before Diem and him got back together. Look CT was single and so was Diem so they can both do whatever they want. Diem was cool with Nany after that, she has actually been cool with a lot of people who have hooked up with or flirted with CT...Ana/Mandi/Laurel. The only person Diem had a problem with in regards to CT was Cooke because Cooke said malicious things about her.
Ok thanks. I was confused why that poster was talking about Nany hooking up with CT during Rivals when I distinctly remembered NOT seeing that.
I agree. If Diem remained cool with Nany after she supposedly hooked up with CT then what's the point in anyone else is holding that against her? Nany wasn't the girl Diem hated on Rivals, it was Cooke.
So I just watched the episode again and I gotta say I think that Jordan/Sarah was right in not taking the deal. Noone needs to be throwing in Jay/Jenna. At this point that is the weakest team and an easy beat in the final. Screw all that "Rookes" Nonsense. I think Wes decided to start drama because they didn't want to do what HE wanted to do. Sorry Wes. Some people are acutally playing the game for THEMSELVES and making moves that benefit THEM this season. You can't run everybody this time.
And another thing that bothered me was Jordan/Sarah kept calling them Rookies during their talk right after the club scene and also the fact that Wes brought up the fact that Jay/Jenna are rookies too....WHO THE **** CARES!!!?? why does them not being veterans matter? What do they think Jay/Jenna don't deserve to win just because they're first timers? What the **** makes the other people who have done a thousand of these shows any more deserving than a first timer? I swear I hate that mentaility more than anything on this show. It's a game and it's about getting to the end and win. Rookie/Veterans shouldn't be factor ESPECAILLY at this point in the game. Jay/Jenna are the weakest team left. You keep them in the game regardless of how many shows they've done period, point, blank.
So I just watched the episode again and I gotta say I think that Jordan/Sarah was right in not taking the deal. Noone needs to be throwing in Jay/Jenna. At this point that is the weakest team and an easy beat in the final. Screw all that "Rookes" Nonsense. I think Wes decided to start drama because they didn't want to do what HE wanted to do. Sorry Wes. Some people are acutally playing the game for THEMSELVES and making moves that benefit THEM this season. You can't run everybody this time.
And another thing that bothered me was Jordan/Sarah kept calling them Rookies during their talk right after the club scene and also the fact that Wes brought up the fact that Jay/Jenna are rookies too....WHO THE **** CARES!!!?? why does them not being veterans matter? What do they think Jay/Jenna don't deserve to win just because they're first timers? What the **** makes the other people who have done a thousand of these shows any more deserving than a first timer? I swear I hate that mentaility more than anything on this show. It's a game and it's about getting to the end and win. Rookie/Veterans shouldn't be factor ESPECAILLY at this point in the game. Jay/Jenna are the weakest team left. You keep them in the game regardless of how many shows they've done period, point, blank.
It's how the world works, with school,work even history, the low men on the totem pole get treated worse than the veterans.
In any game the veterans have power over the rookies. Whether its football, or even survivor
So if you're at work you've worked there for years than someone on there first day takes your job, would you be upset.
So I just watched the episode again and I gotta say I think that Jordan/Sarah was right in not taking the deal. Noone needs to be throwing in Jay/Jenna. At this point that is the weakest team and an easy beat in the final. Screw all that "Rookes" Nonsense. I think Wes decided to start drama because they didn't want to do what HE wanted to do. Sorry Wes. Some people are acutally playing the game for THEMSELVES and making moves that benefit THEM this season. You can't run everybody this time.
I think they were right in not taking the deal just because nothing benefited them. Wes made it clear at that point that he would have Leroy's back over Jordan's so if Jay/Jenna came in last and either Wes or Leroy won Jordan would've been thrown in. And it's likely, unless Wes did something scummy, that Jay/Jenna would've been thrown in against Sarah/Jordan if they came in last. The only thing taking the deal would've done was give more protection to Leroy and Wes...Sarah and Jordan had nothing to gain.
So I just watched the episode again and I gotta say I think that Jordan/Sarah was right in not taking the deal. Noone needs to be throwing in Jay/Jenna. At this point that is the weakest team and an easy beat in the final. Screw all that "Rookes" Nonsense. I think Wes decided to start drama because they didn't want to do what HE wanted to do. Sorry Wes. Some people are acutally playing the game for THEMSELVES and making moves that benefit THEM this season. You can't run everybody this time.
And another thing that bothered me was Jordan/Sarah kept calling them Rookies during their talk right after the club scene and also the fact that Wes brought up the fact that Jay/Jenna are rookies too....WHO THE **** CARES!!!?? why does them not being veterans matter? What do they think Jay/Jenna don't deserve to win just because they're first timers? What the **** makes the other people who have done a thousand of these shows any more deserving than a first timer? I swear I hate that mentaility more than anything on this show. It's a game and it's about getting to the end and win. Rookie/Veterans shouldn't be factor ESPECAILLY at this point in the game. Jay/Jenna are the weakest team left. You keep them in the game regardless of how many shows they've done period, point, blank.
It's how the world works, with school,work even history, the low men on the totem pole get treated worse than the veterans. In any game the veterans have power over the rookies. Whether its football, or even survivor So if you're at work you've worked there for years than someone on there first day takes your job, would you be upset.
You know what else happens in the real world? At some point those old veterans retire or disposed of somehow and new people take their spot. But we don't really see that on this show now do we?
This show isn't real life nor is it the world. It really has nothing to do with it.
So I just watched the episode again and I gotta say I think that Jordan/Sarah was right in not taking the deal. Noone needs to be throwing in Jay/Jenna. At this point that is the weakest team and an easy beat in the final. Screw all that "Rookes" Nonsense. I think Wes decided to start drama because they didn't want to do what HE wanted to do. Sorry Wes. Some people are acutally playing the game for THEMSELVES and making moves that benefit THEM this season. You can't run everybody this time.
And another thing that bothered me was Jordan/Sarah kept calling them Rookies during their talk right after the club scene and also the fact that Wes brought up the fact that Jay/Jenna are rookies too....WHO THE **** CARES!!!?? why does them not being veterans matter? What do they think Jay/Jenna don't deserve to win just because they're first timers? What the **** makes the other people who have done a thousand of these shows any more deserving than a first timer? I swear I hate that mentaility more than anything on this show. It's a game and it's about getting to the end and win. Rookie/Veterans shouldn't be factor ESPECAILLY at this point in the game. Jay/Jenna are the weakest team left. You keep them in the game regardless of how many shows they've done period, point, blank.
It's how the world works, with school,work even history, the low men on the totem pole get treated worse than the veterans. In any game the veterans have power over the rookies. Whether its football, or even survivor So if you're at work you've worked there for years than someone on there first day takes your job, would you be upset.
You know what else happens in the real world? At some point those old veterans retire or disposed of somehow and new people take their spot. But we don't really see that on this show now do we?
This show isn't real life nor is it the world. It really has nothing to do with it.
Its just a mentality that isn't going away. Rookies need to make moves for that to happen, Jay & Jenna won't. They are a layup
So I just watched the episode again and I gotta say I think that Jordan/Sarah was right in not taking the deal. Noone needs to be throwing in Jay/Jenna. At this point that is the weakest team and an easy beat in the final. Screw all that "Rookes" Nonsense. I think Wes decided to start drama because they didn't want to do what HE wanted to do. Sorry Wes. Some people are acutally playing the game for THEMSELVES and making moves that benefit THEM this season. You can't run everybody this time.
And another thing that bothered me was Jordan/Sarah kept calling them Rookies during their talk right after the club scene and also the fact that Wes brought up the fact that Jay/Jenna are rookies too....WHO THE **** CARES!!!?? why does them not being veterans matter? What do they think Jay/Jenna don't deserve to win just because they're first timers? What the **** makes the other people who have done a thousand of these shows any more deserving than a first timer? I swear I hate that mentaility more than anything on this show. It's a game and it's about getting to the end and win. Rookie/Veterans shouldn't be factor ESPECAILLY at this point in the game. Jay/Jenna are the weakest team left. You keep them in the game regardless of how many shows they've done period, point, blank.
It's how the world works, with school,work even history, the low men on the totem pole get treated worse than the veterans. In any game the veterans have power over the rookies. Whether its football, or even survivor So if you're at work you've worked there for years than someone on there first day takes your job, would you be upset.
You know what else happens in the real world? At some point those old veterans retire or disposed of somehow and new people take their spot. But we don't really see that on this show now do we?
This show isn't real life nor is it the world. It really has nothing to do with it.
Its just a mentality that isn't going away. Rookies need to make moves for that to happen, Jay & Jenna won't. They are a layup
Clearly it's not going away but that doesn't mean I have to like it. And yes Jay/Jenna are a layup but they are a layup that noone needs to be even thinking about throwing in which is my point. The only way they should be going in is if they get last and they've done a pretty **** good job avoiding that so assuming they keep that up for the couple of missions they have left they should be golden for the final.
That is true. I guess they all do
I personally don't care if Wes has done steroids or not. That was a good shot at him though.
Sarah did say herself " I'm tired of being the nice girl" its great to see her not take any BS.
So Jordan kept claiming throughout this episode that he wants to send Wes and Theresa because they were a strong teamand keep a weak team for the finals, but if they REALLY thought about it, then it would undeniable be Nany/Johnny vs Theresa/Wes. These two teams are the best at finals no doubt (dispite what we saw on Rivals, Wes is great at finals). I mean, Johnny has won so many and Nany kept a good pace throughout the free agents final. It would be a win-win for them. Nia hasn't really proven much yet and Leroy is mediocre at best during finals. I mean their plan was still good, but could have had improvements.
I feel like I'm the only one who never saw her as "the nice girl" lol back in her early challenges, I always saw her as "the cocky girl"
I think she misspoke. I believe what she meant to say was that she is tired of not taking the initiative and doing what she wants to right from the get go.
cocky and condescending
If only more people on this show had that mindset.....
I think Sarah should have sent in Bananas and Nany if she really wanted to prove she wasn't playing "nice girl". She ended up just doing Bananas' dirty work.
life long Challenge fan; new to vevmo (only commented once before a year ago!) I've seen a lot of people pointing out that no one can really define their Nany-hate... allow me to explain mine, at least.
Lemme just say that 1. i used to be nany's #1 fan since her RW season. until rivals ii, i think, is when it just left... 2. I do not condone slut-shaming and am very happy Nia apologized for those specific statements.
I personally never got over how most of the girls treated Diem on Rivals II and that's where people went sour for me. I really never got over specifically how jemmye, camila, and the rest (including nany) talked shit on Diem while she was being injected with hormones post-chemo in the challenge house while doing the challenge that season. and I do honestly believe a lot of that hate (at least on nany's part) came from Diem's (rightful) claim on CT.
It *shouldn't* matter who a grown woman sleeps with -- you are all 100% right about that. However who one sleeps with and the context in which that happens does matter if you are to determine whether you like a person for their character. Nany's hookup with Johnny R. was ****** up because she was with Cohutta. Nany hooking up with CT on Rivals II while his very serious, chemo-recovering ex is there also kissing on him is ****** up (and if you want to point out others who hooked up with CT fine, but im not talking about them, im talking about Nany)... and let's not get into her whole history but those two specifically cast some shady personal qualities about her life choices that I do take into consideration.
NOW, in the context of a game to win money where you are paired with an ex, and Nany has a slew of options including two Johnnys and a CT among others... and who your partner is will have a huge bearing on whether you win money in this game... i can see where the in-house nany hate comes from. not JUSTIFING it... but i can see it. Your sexual history IS relevant in the game, being a part of the most determining factor in the game - your partner... it's relevant in politicking, etc. and when one has cast such a wide net as Nany has on so many good players... i'm not gonna lie, if i was there, i'd side-eye the **** outta that poor girl. and dont lie to yourself if you're trying to say you wouldn't either.
I used to love nany, but her shit-talking Diem in rivals ii killed her for me...and then riding laurel's d in free agents came off whack and disingenuine as ****...and the context in several of her in-house challenge hookups are less than favorable...I'm over the girl. Maybe if Nia and Nany become friends, the power of my love for Nia might bring her back to life for me...
P.S.... if MTV sends a rape victim home next ep for some BS they wanna label sexual assault, i am going to be ******. I will ahve to see what it is...maybe it is something serious... but if it's some BS, it's gonna rub me the wrong way that MTV wants to teach a rape survivor a lesson about sexual assault... really ****** up.
I'm not actually sure, so anyone else can correct me if I'm wrong.
Nany was not with Cohutta on FA. She thought of Cohutta as a best friend, with a deeper connection rooted between them than what a "best friend" relationship would be. Cohutta had feelings for her, Nany might have mentioned she had something for Cohutta too, but they were not together.
They weren't like BF/GF or anything like that, but for me from a viewer perspective it made her look bad to an extent. I mean she admitted as much at the time.
As far as Diem on Rivals 2 goes...I really feel weird about saying anything g against her, but she kind of acted like a spoiled brat. She tried to claim Cooke and Cara Maria(aiyiyiyiyi) didn't deserve to be there when Diem had many of the boys on her side preventing her from ever being thrown in as long as she didn't get last place. But when she did lose, she flipped out from what I remember.
Thank you! I too have a coworker who came up with the nickname!
She wouldn't **** off her closest ally, especially when that means if bananas won he'd sent Jordan & Sarah in next time
So you waited this long to post on here & the first thing you post about is your hate & negative thoughts for Nany. Your basically hating someone you don't know based on an edited tv show. Great first post ( sense the sarcasm)!! Next time try therapy you might get better results lol.
This really wasn't that hateful at all smh cut it out with the dramatics. She expressed her opinion very well.
The thing with the Cohutta is yeah I 100% felt bad for him but remember they edit events how of order so she could have slept with Reily before her and Cohutta atually really discussed what they were and how strong their feelings were. Also she did tell Cohutta everything according to her and him, it just wasn't shown. He said before he left he knew everything that happened. Should she had slept with Reily when she kind of had something going on with someone else? Probably not but at the end of the day they weren't together and who knows when her and Reily actually took place and what her and Cohutta's status was at the time.
Nany and Cohutta started dating at the reunion offically. In Rivals 2 after Nany slept with Reily she fault like she cheated on Cohutta which made her see that she actually had feeling for him.
wait, who was sexually assualted?
Expressed herself very well? Did we read the same comment?
As others have pointed out to you, Nany wasn't with Cohutta at the time. Sure, they kind of had a thing going on with each other during Rivals 2, but they didn't officially become a couple until AFTER Rivals 2 ended.
I though Nany and CT hooking up was only a rumor? If this did actually happen then yes, I can agree it was messed up for Nany to do that, but shouldn't the blame belong more and CT? He is the one who was in an on/off relationship with Diem, not Nany. I'm sick of this attitude that it's always the woman's fault while the guy gets a free pass because "boys will be boys."
I don't even remember Nany saying anything particularly bad about Diem. She got mad at Diem for that "**** rap" she made about Nany (which Diem lied about even though multiple people told Nany they heard Diem making fun of her). Other than that, I don't recall them having a problem with each other.
What I do remember is Diem getting screamed at by Camilla and Jemmye. Do you hate them too?
That's true for the majority of the cast, like CT for example, yet everybody still loves him.
CT and Nany hooked up after Rivals 2. Not during, it was before Diem and him got back together. Look CT was single and so was Diem so they can both do whatever they want. Diem was cool with Nany after that, she has actually been cool with a lot of people who have hooked up with or flirted with CT...Ana/Mandi/Laurel. The only person Diem had a problem with in regards to CT was Cooke because Cooke said malicious things about her.
Ok thanks. I was confused why that poster was talking about Nany hooking up with CT during Rivals when I distinctly remembered NOT seeing that.
I agree. If Diem remained cool with Nany after she supposedly hooked up with CT then what's the point in anyone else is holding that against her? Nany wasn't the girl Diem hated on Rivals, it was Cooke.
So I just watched the episode again and I gotta say I think that Jordan/Sarah was right in not taking the deal. Noone needs to be throwing in Jay/Jenna. At this point that is the weakest team and an easy beat in the final. Screw all that "Rookes" Nonsense. I think Wes decided to start drama because they didn't want to do what HE wanted to do. Sorry Wes. Some people are acutally playing the game for THEMSELVES and making moves that benefit THEM this season. You can't run everybody this time.
And another thing that bothered me was Jordan/Sarah kept calling them Rookies during their talk right after the club scene and also the fact that Wes brought up the fact that Jay/Jenna are rookies too....WHO THE **** CARES!!!?? why does them not being veterans matter? What do they think Jay/Jenna don't deserve to win just because they're first timers? What the **** makes the other people who have done a thousand of these shows any more deserving than a first timer? I swear I hate that mentaility more than anything on this show. It's a game and it's about getting to the end and win. Rookie/Veterans shouldn't be factor ESPECAILLY at this point in the game. Jay/Jenna are the weakest team left. You keep them in the game regardless of how many shows they've done period, point, blank.
It's how the world works, with school,work even history, the low men on the totem pole get treated worse than the veterans.
In any game the veterans have power over the rookies. Whether its football, or even survivor
So if you're at work you've worked there for years than someone on there first day takes your job, would you be upset.
I think they were right in not taking the deal just because nothing benefited them. Wes made it clear at that point that he would have Leroy's back over Jordan's so if Jay/Jenna came in last and either Wes or Leroy won Jordan would've been thrown in. And it's likely, unless Wes did something scummy, that Jay/Jenna would've been thrown in against Sarah/Jordan if they came in last. The only thing taking the deal would've done was give more protection to Leroy and Wes...Sarah and Jordan had nothing to gain.
You know what else happens in the real world? At some point those old veterans retire or disposed of somehow and new people take their spot. But we don't really see that on this show now do we?
This show isn't real life nor is it the world. It really has nothing to do with it.
Its just a mentality that isn't going away. Rookies need to make moves for that to happen, Jay & Jenna won't. They are a layup
Clearly it's not going away but that doesn't mean I have to like it. And yes Jay/Jenna are a layup but they are a layup that noone needs to be even thinking about throwing in which is my point. The only way they should be going in is if they get last and they've done a pretty **** good job avoiding that so assuming they keep that up for the couple of missions they have left they should be golden for the final.
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