The Future of The Challenge

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season 2 was garbage so you're right on not watching it.

most of cast members from road rules real world old school era and fresh meat 1 are probley not going to return to the challenges because they are either too old or its because of the formats of the challenges in resent year so my guess is that they are trying to bring other mtv reality tv shows to the challenge family so they have pure brand new cast members for the challenges and they are probley testing to see if are you the one will fit in

unlese the next challenge is fresh meat 3 with a twist where the teams are larger and the pairs are not only fresh meat but other mtv reality tv shows like slednecks buckwild and are you the one or possibley same production shows like bad girls club

 

most of cast members from road rules real world old school era and fresh meat 1 are probley not going to return to the challenges because they are either too old or its because of the formats of the challenges in resent year so my guess is that they are trying to bring other mtv reality tv shows to the challenge family so they have pure brand new cast members for the challenges and they are probley testing to see if are you the one will fit in

unlese the next challenge is fresh meat 3 with a twist where the teams are larger and the pairs are not only fresh meat but other mtv reality tv shows like slednecks buckwild and are you the one or possibley same production shows like bad girls club

 


You still didn't answer my question why the hell do you think bringing people in that aren't even on TV in America would do anything

We all know this will obviously never ever happen but imagine if some Bad girls club and Love games cast member were on The Challenge.. Lmao! I would see Rocky, Camilla, Alicia as good competiors

Also The only Ayto cast members from season 1 that are acceptable to me to be on The Challenge is

F: Shanley, Jacy, Simone, Brittany, or Kayla
M: Scali, Chris T, Adam, John, Ryan

Also The only Ayto cast members from season 1 that are acceptable to me to be on The Challenge is F: Shanley, Jacy, Simone, Brittany, or Kayla M: Scali, Chris T, Adam, John, Ryan

I don't mind JJ and Scali. Simone is all I need. She's my Queen.

I still think only Brandon and Shelby from S2 are the only worthy ones to do Challenges if it were necessary, but again, only if it were necessary.

I'm still loling at the people who thought that just because Jenni went down on the guy fromThe First Power (the movie with Lou Diamond Phillips) aka Austin or whatever his name was made her attractive. Shelby was hot but she didn't even say much at the reunion. Brandon will definitely secure an invite. Christina? Check Please.

I'm still loling at the people who thought that just because Jenni went down on the guy fromThe First Power (the movie with Lou Diamond Phillips) aka Austin or whatever his name was made her attractive. Shelby was hot but she didn't even say much at the reunion. Brandon will definitely secure an invite. Christina? Check Please.

Yes agree but knowing BMP they will probably chose Jessica/Christina/Brandon/Layton/Briana/Pratt they were the most popular from that season

Honestly, I see this show continuing bc it's no better or worse than any other show on the network.

1. They are definitely going to include AYTO kids. I don't see that changing.

2. I'm pretty certain most of the Skeleton cast will be asked. However, I only see Bruno, Tony, Violetta, Madison, and Nicole will be challenge regulars/do at least one challenge.

AYTO season 1 ONLY. No need for season 2, it was garbage & nobody wants them in the first place (from all the backlash season 1 has gotten).

In addition to that season 1 list I would also add Dre & Jessica. Only those 12.

AYTO season 1 ONLY. No need for season 2, it was garbage & nobody wants them in the first place (from all the backlash season 1 has gotten).

In addition to that season 1 list I would also add Dre & Jessica. Only those 12.

As much as season 2 is being viewed as garbage, it delieverd drama and producers love people that give them drama. Was it good tv? Not for me, but IF they continue using AYTO people, I fully believe that we will see people from the second season on a future challenge.
In the end if they just keep using people from the first season, they might as well didn't need to use AYTO in the first place since probably the only reason for the "invitation" (for me, since there was far better choices for the theme Exes) was to have a larger new, fresh faces (with a bit of a fan base) pool and if they just invite people from the first season and ignore the other season that pool would always be just six to eight people (who are suitable for a Challenge and not snoozefest) which is just as much as another RW season and it would not make any sense or furthermore it will just show that this decision wasn't really well thought out.      

Season 1 of AYTO should be viewed as Fresh Meat 3. Pick 7-9 cast members to incorporate and call it a day.

AYTO season 1 ONLY. No need for season 2, it was garbage & nobody wants them in the first place (from all the backlash season 1 has gotten).

In addition to that season 1 list I would also add Dre & Jessica. Only those 12.

As much as season 2 is being viewed as garbage, it delieverd drama and producers love people that give them drama. Was it good tv? Not for me, but IF they continue using AYTO people, I fully believe that we will see people from the second season on a future challenge.
In the end if they just keep using people from the first season, they might as well didn't need to use AYTO in the first place since probably the only reason for the "invitation" (for me, since there was far better choices for the theme Exes) was to have a larger new, fresh faces (with a bit of a fan base) pool and if they just invite people from the first season and ignore the other season that pool would always be just six to eight people (who are suitable for a Challenge and not snoozefest) which is just as much as another RW season and it would not make any sense or furthermore it will just show that this decision wasn't really well thought out.      

Why would it not make sense? At most, they'll pick maybe 4 or less people from season 2. That will bring the number to only 8 (or less) from both seasons. So what would be the point when it's pretty much been established (by both hardcore viewers, the producers & the casuals) that season 1 was by far the superior season? Just bring another 4-8 from that season.

Camila is still the only fool to come from her "season". Just like everybody else, such as actual RWers/RRers who haven't gotten the chance to do one & Fresh Meat who haven't appeared since their season has been ignored, they should do the same for AYTO season 2. Them getting on will firmly put the final nail in the coffin for this series.

This is something I found interesting. Some people on here have complained about the themes being too repetitive lately.

Back in the day (2004-2008) 6/9 seasons over a 9 season span were either an Inferno or Gauntlet, with Fresh Meat, The Duel, and Battle of the Sexes II being the only non-Infeno or Gauntlet Seasons.

In the last 9 Seasons (2009-2015) we have had ...5/9 that were different. An Individual Challenge (FA), A Two Team Challenge (Ruins), A Three Team Challenge (Cutthroat), a Four Member per team challenge (BOTS), and a Male-Female Partner Challenge (FM2). The only repeats were Rivals and Exes which occured over 6 seasons so there is repetition there but the next challenge most likely will not be Rivals again so we will be looking at 4/7 as repeats.

So there's actually been more variety lately then there was in the past.

I'd rather nobody from AYTO be on this show anymore.

Season 1 of AYTO should be viewed as Fresh Meat 3. Pick 7-9 cast members to incorporate and call it a day.

I'd rather nobody from AYTO be on this show anymore.

AYTO season 1 ONLY. No need for season 2, it was garbage & nobody wants them in the first place (from all the backlash season 1 has gotten).

In addition to that season 1 list I would also add Dre & Jessica. Only those 12.

As much as season 2 is being viewed as garbage, it delieverd drama and producers love people that give them drama. Was it good tv? Not for me, but IF they continue using AYTO people, I fully believe that we will see people from the second season on a future challenge.
In the end if they just keep using people from the first season, they might as well didn't need to use AYTO in the first place since probably the only reason for the "invitation" (for me, since there was far better choices for the theme Exes) was to have a larger new, fresh faces (with a bit of a fan base) pool and if they just invite people from the first season and ignore the other season that pool would always be just six to eight people (who are suitable for a Challenge and not snoozefest) which is just as much as another RW season and it would not make any sense or furthermore it will just show that this decision wasn't really well thought out.      

Why would it not make sense? At most, they'll pick maybe 4 or less people from season 2. That will bring the number to only 8 (or less) from both seasons. So what would be the point when it's pretty much been established (by both hardcore viewers, the producers & the casuals) that season 1 was by far the superior season? Just bring another 4-8 from that season.

Camila is still the only fool to come from her "season". Just like everybody else, such as actual RWers/RRers who haven't gotten the chance to do one & Fresh Meat who haven't appeared since their season has been ignored, they should do the same for AYTO season 2. Them getting on will firmly put the final nail in the coffin for this series.


That's exactly why I think that wouldn't make any sense. If they invite only six - eight people from the first season and ignore the other good (drama-wise, hook-up wise) five - six people from the second season,  they are already doing the same mistake again choosing just the same guys over and over again. That's why I didn't agree with "No need for season 2".  
I think Camila was just like a lottery win and we need to view her as that. She had a pretty crazy meltdown on the Spring Break Challenge and then on Cutthroat she was a great tv persona which nobody expected her to be one. 

Season 1 of AYTO should be viewed as Fresh Meat 3. Pick 7-9 cast members to incorporate and call it a day.

LOL, You better work.l

 

The theme makes me tolerate AYTO on Exes 2 but for a Rivals 3 or Free Agents , I don't see there relevance tbh. Ratings wise , you have people from fan favorite RW seasons and that still doesn't help so bringing in people from this show based on ratings is moot. I even had issues with the Exes and possibly Skeletons getting invited to challenges without their Exes and Skeletons their.

I have no issue with them using outside sources if all possible options have been even exhausted but when there are willing participants from RW that can complete a cast , I want them to use it , It's ways to get more regulars for example , Derek was useless on Cancun and Cutthroat and then turned into somewhat of a character in Seasons and Rivals , it's 50/50 but still worth it.

They also need to not incorporate twists into the challenge , there's already enough going on without the twists.

The theme makes me tolerate AYTO on Exes 2 but for a Rivals 3 or Free Agents , I don't see there relevance tbh. Ratings wise , you have people from fan favorite RW seasons and that still doesn't help so bringing in people from this show based on ratings is moot. I even had issues with the Exes and possibly Skeletons getting invited to challenges without their Exes and Skeletons their.

I have no issue with them using outside sources if all possible options have been even exhausted but when there are willing participants from RW that can complete a cast , I want them to use it , It's ways to get more regulars for example , Derek was useless on Cancun and Cutthroat and then turned into somewhat of a character in Seasons and Rivals , it's 50/50 but still worth it.

They also need to not incorporate twists into the challenge , there's already enough going on without the twists.

See this is my main issue with it..They had teams that were willing to do this but instead of casting them they go with AYTO people. I can see if NOBODY else wanted to do it then yeah but they had people willing to come on but didn't use them.

The theme makes me tolerate AYTO on Exes 2 but for a Rivals 3 or Free Agents , I don't see there relevance tbh. Ratings wise , you have people from fan favorite RW seasons and that still doesn't help so bringing in people from this show based on ratings is moot. I even had issues with the Exes and possibly Skeletons getting invited to challenges without their Exes and Skeletons their.

I have no issue with them using outside sources if all possible options have been even exhausted but when there are willing participants from RW that can complete a cast , I want them to use it , It's ways to get more regulars for example , Derek was useless on Cancun and Cutthroat and then turned into somewhat of a character in Seasons and Rivals , it's 50/50 but still worth it.

They also need to not incorporate twists into the challenge , there's already enough going on without the twists.

See this is my main issue with it..They had teams that were willing to do this but instead of casting them they go with AYTO people. I can see if NOBODY else wanted to do it then yeah but they had people willing to come on but didn't use them.

 

Like who besides Eric/Sahar and trey/Laura?

The theme makes me tolerate AYTO on Exes 2 but for a Rivals 3 or Free Agents , I don't see there relevance tbh. Ratings wise , you have people from fan favorite RW seasons and that still doesn't help so bringing in people from this show based on ratings is moot. I even had issues with the Exes and possibly Skeletons getting invited to challenges without their Exes and Skeletons their.

I have no issue with them using outside sources if all possible options have been even exhausted but when there are willing participants from RW that can complete a cast , I want them to use it , It's ways to get more regulars for example , Derek was useless on Cancun and Cutthroat and then turned into somewhat of a character in Seasons and Rivals , it's 50/50 but still worth it.

They also need to not incorporate twists into the challenge , there's already enough going on without the twists.

See this is my main issue with it..They had teams that were willing to do this but instead of casting them they go with AYTO people. I can see if NOBODY else wanted to do it then yeah but they had people willing to come on but didn't use them.

 

Like who besides Eric/Sahar and trey/Laura?


In all honesty most cast members turned tgis challenge down bc they didn't like the theme. That's why Aver was initially a no until they offered her money.
Most cast members now want individual challenges.

Many want an old.school vs new school thing too.

The theme makes me tolerate AYTO on Exes 2 but for a Rivals 3 or Free Agents , I don't see there relevance tbh. Ratings wise , you have people from fan favorite RW seasons and that still doesn't help so bringing in people from this show based on ratings is moot. I even had issues with the Exes and possibly Skeletons getting invited to challenges without their Exes and Skeletons their.

I have no issue with them using outside sources if all possible options have been even exhausted but when there are willing participants from RW that can complete a cast , I want them to use it , It's ways to get more regulars for example , Derek was useless on Cancun and Cutthroat and then turned into somewhat of a character in Seasons and Rivals , it's 50/50 but still worth it.

They also need to not incorporate twists into the challenge , there's already enough going on without the twists.

See this is my main issue with it..They had teams that were willing to do this but instead of casting them they go with AYTO people. I can see if NOBODY else wanted to do it then yeah but they had people willing to come on but didn't use them.

 

Like who besides Eric/Sahar and trey/Laura?

I mean the cast could've been. Johnny/Nany and Leroy/Nia are proof we don't need footage to actually pair people.

1. Cory/Ashley 

2. Thomas/Jamie 

3. Trey/Laura 

4. Zach/Trashelle

5. Adam/Nany

6. Dustin/Cooke (I believe she was on off-season) 

7. Eric/Sahar

8. Knight/Jemmye 

9. Nehamiah/Sarah 

0. Isaac/Jonna 

1. CT/Diem

2. Johnny/Averey 

3. Leroy/Joi

4. Jordan/Nia

5. Wes/Theresa

6. Darrell/Rachel 

Eveyone saying Eric/Sahar  or Trey/Laura would be boring or add nothing should just think of these reasons

1, Jemmye was single at the time and likes black men and Eric and Knight were barely cordial at the time who to say Eric/Jemmye wouldn't have hook up , causing drama between Eric and Knight.

2. Knight and Jemmye are both good friends with Sahar , and various Veterans giving this rookie a huge alliance or target walking in.

3. Trey and Laura , Laura is well liked but being paired up with someone who refuses to participate in alliances would make them anot her target plus the main characters (Knight and Zach) all had issues with him. He woulded added #s to Wes side as well 

So to be fair both teams really wouldn't be wallpaper there interpersonal dynamics would have been boring like half the teams they choose anyway.

The theme makes me tolerate AYTO on Exes 2 but for a Rivals 3 or Free Agents , I don't see there relevance tbh. Ratings wise , you have people from fan favorite RW seasons and that still doesn't help so bringing in people from this show based on ratings is moot. I even had issues with the Exes and possibly Skeletons getting invited to challenges without their Exes and Skeletons their.

I have no issue with them using outside sources if all possible options have been even exhausted but when there are willing participants from RW that can complete a cast , I want them to use it , It's ways to get more regulars for example , Derek was useless on Cancun and Cutthroat and then turned into somewhat of a character in Seasons and Rivals , it's 50/50 but still worth it.

They also need to not incorporate twists into the challenge , there's already enough going on without the twists.

See this is my main issue with it..They had teams that were willing to do this but instead of casting them they go with AYTO people. I can see if NOBODY else wanted to do it then yeah but they had people willing to come on but didn't use them.

 

Like who besides Eric/Sahar and trey/Laura?

Darrell/Rachel..And they apparently hate Backpack so they could've give him some heat in addition to that they are good competitors so they would've been taken seriously.

The theme makes me tolerate AYTO on Exes 2 but for a Rivals 3 or Free Agents , I don't see there relevance tbh. Ratings wise , you have people from fan favorite RW seasons and that still doesn't help so bringing in people from this show based on ratings is moot. I even had issues with the Exes and possibly Skeletons getting invited to challenges without their Exes and Skeletons their.

I have no issue with them using outside sources if all possible options have been even exhausted but when there are willing participants from RW that can complete a cast , I want them to use it , It's ways to get more regulars for example , Derek was useless on Cancun and Cutthroat and then turned into somewhat of a character in Seasons and Rivals , it's 50/50 but still worth it.

They also need to not incorporate twists into the challenge , there's already enough going on without the twists.

See this is my main issue with it..They had teams that were willing to do this but instead of casting them they go with AYTO people. I can see if NOBODY else wanted to do it then yeah but they had people willing to come on but didn't use them.

 

Like who besides Eric/Sahar and trey/Laura?

In all honesty most cast members turned tgis challenge down bc they didn't like the theme. That's why Aver was initially a no until they offered her money. Most cast members now want individual challenges.

That's why they need to starting thinking outside the box with these themes. This Exes and Rivals crap isn't going to cut it.

I mean the cast could've been. Johnny/Nany and Leroy/Nia are proof we don't need footage to actually pair people.

1. Cory/Ashley 

2. Thomas/Jamie 

3. Trey/Laura or Robb/Marie (There both were down at separate times)

4. Zach/Jonna  or  Zach/Ashlee  or Zach/Ashley 

5. Adam/Nany

6. Dustin/Cooke (I believe she was on off season) or Dustin/Emilee

7. Eric/Sahar

8. Knight/Jemmye 

9. Nehamiah/Sarah

0. Isaac/Jonna 

1. CT/Diem

2. Johnny/Averey 

3. Leroy/Joi

4. Jordan/Nia

Eveyone saying Eric/Sahar  or Trey/Laura would be boring or add nothing should just think of these reasons

1, Jemmye was single at the time and likes black men and Eric and Knight were barely cordial at the time who to say Eric/Jemmye wouldn't have hook up , causing drama between Eric and Knight.

2. Knight and Jemmye are both good friends with Sahar , and various Veterans giving this rookie a huge alliance or target walking in.

3. Trey and Laura , Laura is well liked but being paired up with someone who refuses to participate in alliances would make them anot her target plus the main characters (Knight and Zach) all had issues with him. He woulded added #s to Wes side as well 

So to be fair both teams really wouldn't be wallpaper there interpersonal dynamics would have been boring like half the teams they choose anyway.

When?

I mean the cast could've been. Johnny/Nany and Leroy/Nia are proof we don't need footage to actually pair people.

1. Cory/Ashley 

2. Thomas/Jamie 

3. Trey/Laura or Robb/Marie (There both were down at separate times)

4. Zach/Jonna  or  Zach/Ashlee  or Zach/Ashley 

5. Adam/Nany

6. Dustin/Cooke (I believe she was on off season) or Dustin/Emilee

7. Eric/Sahar

8. Knight/Jemmye 

9. Nehamiah/Sarah

0. Isaac/Jonna 

1. CT/Diem

2. Johnny/Averey 

3. Leroy/Joi

4. Jordan/Nia

Eveyone saying Eric/Sahar  or Trey/Laura would be boring or add nothing should just think of these reasons

1, Jemmye was single at the time and likes black men and Eric and Knight were barely cordial at the time who to say Eric/Jemmye wouldn't have hook up , causing drama between Eric and Knight.

2. Knight and Jemmye are both good friends with Sahar , and various Veterans giving this rookie a huge alliance or target walking in.

3. Trey and Laura , Laura is well liked but being paired up with someone who refuses to participate in alliances would make them anot her target plus the main characters (Knight and Zach) all had issues with him. He woulded added #s to Wes side as well 

So to be fair both teams really wouldn't be wallpaper there interpersonal dynamics would have been boring like half the teams they choose anyway.

When?

 

Rivals 1

Zach and Trashelle hooked up? Lol im ashamed of Zach now hehe.

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