There's no comment more petty than yours , my post is not petty like your constant complaining of the show yet you still watch.
There's no legit argument against AYTO being on the show whether you like it or not. It's an MTV show just like Real World and RR which was cancelled years ago. Why is it such a big deal to bring 4 people from another MTV reality show on The Challenge? You people act like 12 of them are going on it. And you can't even bring up the "the show was based on Real World vs Road Rules" argument, because they changed the title. With that logic, the original rules of the USA only wanted white males to vote so only white males should be allowed to vote.
Also
I'm not yelling at you for my opinion because I can't even yell over the internet. I'm just stating my opinion in the Unpopular Opinions thread since it's an unpopular opinion on here. We aren't even supposed to be arguing in this thread, it was intended for people to post their unpopular opinion and move on. I'm personally tired of the repetitive complaints by the same people, so i'm gonna complain about it in here. What you said to me, refers to you, why does my post bother you so much? Dont' post on here if it upsets you so much.
Of course I still watch it. I might not be a long term viewer from when Extreme Challenge was on, but I definitely do go back and watch what I can, and for the most part, I like what I see, for the exception of The Island. Just because I have an opinion and mention the things I dislike, doesn't mean I'm complaining or even trashing the series.
If there's no legit argument against it, then there's no legit argument for it either. Simple as that, bye at you.
Who cares if they change the title. I haven't been watching as long as some people here have, but I don't see the title as an excuse. If they took it down, it probably had nothing to do with allowing every ******* show to bring on people from every show on the MTV network. You're basically all for every show on MTV to be brought onto The Challenge because they're hosted by MTV. Don't say it's not true, you're stating it by the way you're supporting it.
Also, your caps in the original post is practically you yelling.
Not to mention, you have the same complaint as everyone else does. But you wouldn't know since you apparently don't read everyone else's post on this site. You're no different, try again later, thanks.
Why does your post bother me? I've already mentioned why. Go back and read it.
There's no point arguing with you because you're the type of person that doesn't even listen and believes in their own ignorance, especially with the bolded comments that make absolutely no sense. "If there's no argue against it, there's no argument for it" LMAO. Once again, you're getting too upset, take a chill pill, and log off. Goodnight!
LOL. And you're the type who thinks you're right all the time. Get over yourself, hun, thanks!
I'm so sick of people being like "it doesn't make sense", because then I have to explain myself over and over again. How does it not make sense? If you can't argue against it, then you can't argue for it either. Your arguments are the exact same thing that the minority that actually like AYTO are always giving, so stop acting as if you won.
I'm sure this has been posted 10000 times and i'm gonna post it because i'm sick and tired of hearing it and i'm on my last straw.
I CAN'T STAND WHEN FANS COMPLAIN ABOUT ARE YOU THE ONE BEING ON SEASON 26 OR MAKE PETTY COMMENTS ABOUT THE SHOW IN GENERAL.
WHO CARES IF THEY'RE ON THE SHOW? WHY IS IT SUCH A BIG DEAL TO SOME PEOPLE? WHO CARES IF THEY'RE FROM REAL WORLD, ROAD RULES, OR ARE YOU THE ONE, AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS A STUPID SHOW ON MTV WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THEIR 20's ARE EITHER FILMED TRYING TO FIND LOVE, MONEY, FRIENDS, OR THEMSELVES. THAT'S IT. It is LITERALLY 4 people out of 26.
Fans of this show (specifically this website & the facebook page) complain about EVERY SINGLE THING, from last season's "Draw" element which provided epic elimination rounds we would've never seen without it or trying to keep things interesting by using a Redemption Island twist from Survivor. This show changes it's format literally every season and tries to keep fans interested, but all they do is COMPLAIN COMPLAIN COMPLAIN about every little thing and i'm so sick and tired of it. The complaints are SO petty and i'm gonna laugh when this series gets cancelled and a year later they'll talk about how they miss the show so much and how a chapter of their life has ended because their favorite television show growing up got cancelled and blah blah blah.
**** and enjoy it before it's over. There is nothing wrong with this TV show, it's one of the best reality shows on television right now and when people constantly complain about BMP or MTV ruining the show, it makes me think that it's actually the fans ruining this show. They are the ones who don't tune in because they're mad 4 people out of 26 are from another show on MTV. They're the ones not supporting the show because someone gets randomly selected to go into elimination. They're the ones throwing a fit because producers try to keep this show fresh and have the competitors and the fans on their toes.
At the end of the day this is a TELEVISION SHOW. They want to keep the TV show interesting. If you don't like it, then go do something that makes you happy instead of constantly trashing the show because producers want to keep things interesting. This is not the NFL, this is a TV show about entertainment. The TV show comes first, the competition comes 2nd. The show may not be perfect, but NO show on television is perfect so quit being so petty.
I beg to differ. On the interesting part: while they do try different things like Free Agents, they then strive to kill it by having the same people as the past couple shows, yet again. There is a lot wrong with the show but MTV/BMP & the "casual" fans don't care enough to fix any of it at this point.
The "OMG WHERE IS JOHNNY BANANAS WHY ISN'T HE ON THIS SEASON" type fans do have a big hand in ruining this show. Most blame of course goes to MTV/BMP. Seasons 2 should've been this show's renaissance.
Idk why I put there's nothing wrong with this show part because I actually meant to put it's not perfect, but no show on TV is perfect. But you can deny that they do change the format pretty much every season which changes the game.
But I would agree with you about them recycling contestants, but I honestly feel they've gotten so much better at it besides not giving Bananas a break. Other than that, I can't complain about it. Actually what bothers me more than anything with "super veterans" is when they get ALL the air-time. I don't hate the fact that they're there, I just hate when the rookies can't develop a storyline of their own. In Free Agents they did a great job not giving CT & Bananas all the airtime. We finally go new characters to enjoy.
Very unpopular here
Seasons 2 was BAD. The cast was easily the weakest one we've ever had, the girls were just horrible. Frank & Marie were just truly unbearable. Fresh meat and New Orleans were just awful.
The only good things from that season IMO were the missions, Zach vs CJ, knot so fast, and Sarah making the final even if Devyn ruined it for her.
Changing the topic, I'm one of the few that don't find the Back to Vegas cast all that. Dustin sucks, Nany sucks, Mike sucks, Naomi and Heather are whatever. The only ones I like are Adam (he is banned), Cooke (she is done with challenges) and sometimes Leroy.
BTW, when I say "sucks" I don't mean competitive wise.
I hate Dustin he's so annoying. I'm just glad frank sent him home on free agents because if he didn't we'd have to deal with him.
Everything he does and everything he says annoys me so much. I was even on the Mike bandwagon during their feud and I hate Mike.
Me too, Dustin was an idiot on vegas , everything he said was just plain stupid no wonder why he upset mike so much, literally everything he said was either full of ignorance or something about how obsessed he was with heather.
I didn't mind him on bots, (mostly because frank was there and he was worse than him imo ) and he has been invisible on all the challenges. Actually I thought he will become the breakout star from that season just given the fact a lot people liked him on vegas, but he has been wallpaper on the challenges.
There's no comment more petty than yours , my post is not petty like your constant complaining of the show yet you still watch.
There's no legit argument against AYTO being on the show whether you like it or not. It's an MTV show just like Real World and RR which was cancelled years ago. Why is it such a big deal to bring 4 people from another MTV reality show on The Challenge? You people act like 12 of them are going on it. And you can't even bring up the "the show was based on Real World vs Road Rules" argument, because they changed the title. With that logic, the original rules of the USA only wanted white males to vote so only white males should be allowed to vote.
Also
I'm not yelling at you for my opinion because I can't even yell over the internet. I'm just stating my opinion in the Unpopular Opinions thread since it's an unpopular opinion on here. We aren't even supposed to be arguing in this thread, it was intended for people to post their unpopular opinion and move on. I'm personally tired of the repetitive complaints by the same people, so i'm gonna complain about it in here. What you said to me, refers to you, why does my post bother you so much? Dont' post on here if it upsets you so much.
Of course I still watch it. I might not be a long term viewer from when Extreme Challenge was on, but I definitely do go back and watch what I can, and for the most part, I like what I see, for the exception of The Island. Just because I have an opinion and mention the things I dislike, doesn't mean I'm complaining or even trashing the series.
If there's no legit argument against it, then there's no legit argument for it either. Simple as that, bye at you.
Who cares if they change the title. I haven't been watching as long as some people here have, but I don't see the title as an excuse. If they took it down, it probably had nothing to do with allowing every ******* show to bring on people from every show on the MTV network. You're basically all for every show on MTV to be brought onto The Challenge because they're hosted by MTV. Don't say it's not true, you're stating it by the way you're supporting it.
Also, your caps in the original post is practically you yelling.
Not to mention, you have the same complaint as everyone else does. But you wouldn't know since you apparently don't read everyone else's post on this site. You're no different, try again later, thanks.
Why does your post bother me? I've already mentioned why. Go back and read it.
There's no point arguing with you because you're the type of person that doesn't even listen and believes in their own ignorance, especially with the bolded comments that make absolutely no sense. "If there's no argue against it, there's no argument for it" LMAO. Once again, you're getting too upset, take a chill pill, and log off. Goodnight!
LOL. And you're the type who thinks you're right all the time. Get over yourself, hun, thanks!
I'm so sick of people being like "it doesn't make sense", because then I have to explain myself over and over again. How does it not make sense? If you can't argue against it, then you can't argue for it either. Your arguments are the exact same thing that the minority that actually like AYTO are always giving, so stop acting as if you won.
But go on, I'm waiting.
Because your arguments don't make sense, read what you're writing before you post it. You seem upset, calm down.
For example you said i'm all for every show on MTV to go on The Challenge. I didn't state that at all actually, so I don't know where that came from.
Another example, you said changing the title isn't an excuse to allow another show to go onto The Challenge series. How isn't that an excuse? They're the producers, they can change the title and the rules of the show. This isn't anything new. Freshmeat & Spring Break people were introduced years ago so this isn't the first time it's happened. It is a legit "excuse" whether you like it or not lol.
And technically people for AYTO did win because they're on the show whether you like it or not :).
I'm sure this has been posted 10000 times and i'm gonna post it because i'm sick and tired of hearing it and i'm on my last straw.
I CAN'T STAND WHEN FANS COMPLAIN ABOUT ARE YOU THE ONE BEING ON SEASON 26 OR MAKE PETTY COMMENTS ABOUT THE SHOW IN GENERAL.
WHO CARES IF THEY'RE ON THE SHOW? WHY IS IT SUCH A BIG DEAL TO SOME PEOPLE? WHO CARES IF THEY'RE FROM REAL WORLD, ROAD RULES, OR ARE YOU THE ONE, AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS A STUPID SHOW ON MTV WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THEIR 20's ARE EITHER FILMED TRYING TO FIND LOVE, MONEY, FRIENDS, OR THEMSELVES. THAT'S IT. It is LITERALLY 4 people out of 26.
Fans of this show (specifically this website & the facebook page) complain about EVERY SINGLE THING, from last season's "Draw" element which provided epic elimination rounds we would've never seen without it or trying to keep things interesting by using a Redemption Island twist from Survivor. This show changes it's format literally every season and tries to keep fans interested, but all they do is COMPLAIN COMPLAIN COMPLAIN about every little thing and i'm so sick and tired of it. The complaints are SO petty and i'm gonna laugh when this series gets cancelled and a year later they'll talk about how they miss the show so much and how a chapter of their life has ended because their favorite television show growing up got cancelled and blah blah blah.
**** and enjoy it before it's over. There is nothing wrong with this TV show, it's one of the best reality shows on television right now and when people constantly complain about BMP or MTV ruining the show, it makes me think that it's actually the fans ruining this show. They are the ones who don't tune in because they're mad 4 people out of 26 are from another show on MTV. They're the ones not supporting the show because someone gets randomly selected to go into elimination. They're the ones throwing a fit because producers try to keep this show fresh and have the competitors and the fans on their toes.
At the end of the day this is a TELEVISION SHOW. They want to keep the TV show interesting. If you don't like it, then go do something that makes you happy instead of constantly trashing the show because producers want to keep things interesting. This is not the NFL, this is a TV show about entertainment. The TV show comes first, the competition comes 2nd. The show may not be perfect, but NO show on television is perfect so quit being so petty.
I beg to differ. On the interesting part: while they do try different things like Free Agents, they then strive to kill it by having the same people as the past couple shows, yet again. There is a lot wrong with the show but MTV/BMP & the "casual" fans don't care enough to fix any of it at this point.
The "OMG WHERE IS JOHNNY BANANAS WHY ISN'T HE ON THIS SEASON" type fans do have a big hand in ruining this show. Most blame of course goes to MTV/BMP. Seasons 2 should've been this show's renaissance.
Exactly. I don't mind all the twists to the game and the attempts to shake it up but there's one thing that they don't really address and the reason why these twists keep falling flat. THEY KEEP CASTING THE SAME DAMN PEOPLE! And you know what? you can't blame that on the fans. That has been this show's main criticism for years now. And that's on BMP's shoulders.
You also mention the Backpack crowd. That's also on BMP's head. Because they kept casting that Idiot for so long people got used to him and attatched to him so now we have to see his *** on every ******* challenge. Same thing with CT and Wes too and some of the newer crowd too. They need to make more of an effort to differenate the cast. Because you can have all the twist and turns in the world but the cast sucks and/or is repetitive it means NOTHING!
Oh and for the record...Dustin is awesome. He's entertaining and fun to watch. Not to mention the whole frapad thing. It's a shame he went home so early last season. I hope he stays longer because I feel like he could really bring something to this show. Seasons 2 proved that.
I'm sure this has been posted 10000 times and i'm gonna post it because i'm sick and tired of hearing it and i'm on my last straw.
I CAN'T STAND WHEN FANS COMPLAIN ABOUT ARE YOU THE ONE BEING ON SEASON 26 OR MAKE PETTY COMMENTS ABOUT THE SHOW IN GENERAL.
WHO CARES IF THEY'RE ON THE SHOW? WHY IS IT SUCH A BIG DEAL TO SOME PEOPLE? WHO CARES IF THEY'RE FROM REAL WORLD, ROAD RULES, OR ARE YOU THE ONE, AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS A STUPID SHOW ON MTV WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THEIR 20's ARE EITHER FILMED TRYING TO FIND LOVE, MONEY, FRIENDS, OR THEMSELVES. THAT'S IT. It is LITERALLY 4 people out of 26.
Fans of this show (specifically this website & the facebook page) complain about EVERY SINGLE THING, from last season's "Draw" element which provided epic elimination rounds we would've never seen without it or trying to keep things interesting by using a Redemption Island twist from Survivor. This show changes it's format literally every season and tries to keep fans interested, but all they do is COMPLAIN COMPLAIN COMPLAIN about every little thing and i'm so sick and tired of it. The complaints are SO petty and i'm gonna laugh when this series gets cancelled and a year later they'll talk about how they miss the show so much and how a chapter of their life has ended because their favorite television show growing up got cancelled and blah blah blah.
**** and enjoy it before it's over. There is nothing wrong with this TV show, it's one of the best reality shows on television right now and when people constantly complain about BMP or MTV ruining the show, it makes me think that it's actually the fans ruining this show. They are the ones who don't tune in because they're mad 4 people out of 26 are from another show on MTV. They're the ones not supporting the show because someone gets randomly selected to go into elimination. They're the ones throwing a fit because producers try to keep this show fresh and have the competitors and the fans on their toes.
At the end of the day this is a TELEVISION SHOW. They want to keep the TV show interesting. If you don't like it, then go do something that makes you happy instead of constantly trashing the show because producers want to keep things interesting. This is not the NFL, this is a TV show about entertainment. The TV show comes first, the competition comes 2nd. The show may not be perfect, but NO show on television is perfect so quit being so petty.
I beg to differ. On the interesting part: while they do try different things like Free Agents, they then strive to kill it by having the same people as the past couple shows, yet again. There is a lot wrong with the show but MTV/BMP & the "casual" fans don't care enough to fix any of it at this point.
The "OMG WHERE IS JOHNNY BANANAS WHY ISN'T HE ON THIS SEASON" type fans do have a big hand in ruining this show. Most blame of course goes to MTV/BMP. Seasons 2 should've been this show's renaissance.
Exactly. I don't mind all the twists to the game and the attempts to shake it up but there's one thing that they don't really address and the reason why these twists keep falling flat. THEY KEEP CASTING THE SAME DAMN PEOPLE! And you know what? you can't blame that on the fans. That has been this show's main criticism for years now. And that's on BMP's shoulders.
You also mention the Backpack crowd. That's also on BMP's head. Because they kept casting that Idiot for so long people got used to him and attatched to him so now we have to see his *** on every ******* challenge. Same thing with CT and Wes too and some of the newer crowd too. They need to make more of an effort to differenate the cast. Because you can have all the twist and turns in the world but the cast sucks and/or is repetitive it means NOTHING!
Well you're DebutAlbum so I already know your stance on Freshmeat, Spring Break, AYTO people. But that was the point in my argument. They tried to keep things fresh by bringing in 4 people from AYTO. This isn't just any group of people. These were some of the biggest and most interesting characters of Season 1. And before you say "Why can't they bring on people from the Real World that want to go on?"
Because again, this is a TV show. Some of these people just weren't interesting in the producer's minds to bring back, so their flame is out. I don't agree with ignoring a bunch of real worlders, and I do some of them deserve a shot, but not every single real worlder is interesting enough for The Challenge especially if they were boring on their original RW season. And the 4 they picked from AYTO are way more interesting than 85% of the RWers ignored imo. But that's just an opinion, not a fact.
Because your arguments don't make sense, read what you're writing before you post it. You seem upset, calm down.
For example you said i'm all for every show on MTV to go on The Challenge. I didn't state that at all actually, so I don't know where that came from.
Another example, you said changing the title isn't an excuse to allow another show to go onto The Challenge series. How isn't that an excuse? They're the producers, they can change the title and the rules of the show. This isn't anything new. Freshmeat & Spring Break people were introduced years ago so this isn't the first time it's happened. It is a legit "excuse" whether you like it or not lol.
And technically people for AYTO did win because they're on the show whether you like it or not :).
#TeamAYTO - 1
#Complainers - None
"Go ahead, i'll wait"
I'm actually pretty calm, thank you very much.
I said by you supporting this the way you do, you're also okay with every other show coming on. You didn't say it, but how you've been writing and the way you've supported the show, it just seems like every show on MTV is also entitled to coming onto The Challenge.
You can't compare AYTO and FM/SBC. AYTO is another show, FM was hosted as a Challenge season with RW/RR alumni, same with SBC for the exception of being hosted as an actual season. Besides that, we only got Camila.
And just because they're on the show, doesn't mean you/they win. It's just obvious that people who plan these shows are making mistakes.
#TeamAYTO - irrelevant and LOL
#Complainers - people who give their opinions are now considered complainers. so who really gives a ****.
Probably unpopular, might be very popular lol who knows but **** it:
I don't know about any other shows from MTV, but a RW/RR v.s. VH1 crossover around 2007-2009 would've been gold.
I could never tell if the Vh1 people were playing up their character or if they were truly dumb. I'd imagine RW/RR would destroy them unfortunately :(.
Because your arguments don't make sense, read what you're writing before you post it. You seem upset, calm down.
For example you said i'm all for every show on MTV to go on The Challenge. I didn't state that at all actually, so I don't know where that came from.
Another example, you said changing the title isn't an excuse to allow another show to go onto The Challenge series. How isn't that an excuse? They're the producers, they can change the title and the rules of the show. This isn't anything new. Freshmeat & Spring Break people were introduced years ago so this isn't the first time it's happened. It is a legit "excuse" whether you like it or not lol.
And technically people for AYTO did win because they're on the show whether you like it or not :).
#TeamAYTO - 1
#Complainers - None
"Go ahead, i'll wait"
I'm actually pretty calm, thank you very much.
I said by you supporting this the way you do, you're also okay with every other show coming on. You didn't say it, but how you've been writing and the way you've supported the show, it just seems like every show on MTV is also entitled to coming onto The Challenge.
You can't compare AYTO and FM/SBC. AYTO is another show, FM was hosted as a Challenge season with RW/RR alumni, same with SBC for the exception of being hosted as an actual season. Besides that, we only got Camila.
And just because they're on the show, doesn't mean you/they win. It's just obvious that people who plan these shows are making mistakes.
#TeamAYTO - irrelevant and LOL
#Complainers - people who give their opinions are now considered complainers. so who really gives a ****.
Byeeee at you.
Actually I can compare AYTO and FM/SBC because they weren't apart of the "Real World/Road Rules" original title that you were complaining about earlier. So don't retract your statement now LOL. Also "SBC only brought Camila", yeah and AYTO only brought Simone, JJ, Adam, & Britt. But you're still complaining eh?
And yeah we do win because they're on the show whether you keep complaining or not. And guess what? You'll still watch and complain. How many times do I have to repeat myself?
You're very contradicting and your constant "byee at you" "hun" and cursing does show your anger.
I'm sure this has been posted 10000 times and i'm gonna post it because i'm sick and tired of hearing it and i'm on my last straw.
I CAN'T STAND WHEN FANS COMPLAIN ABOUT ARE YOU THE ONE BEING ON SEASON 26 OR MAKE PETTY COMMENTS ABOUT THE SHOW IN GENERAL.
WHO CARES IF THEY'RE ON THE SHOW? WHY IS IT SUCH A BIG DEAL TO SOME PEOPLE? WHO CARES IF THEY'RE FROM REAL WORLD, ROAD RULES, OR ARE YOU THE ONE, AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS A STUPID SHOW ON MTV WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THEIR 20's ARE EITHER FILMED TRYING TO FIND LOVE, MONEY, FRIENDS, OR THEMSELVES. THAT'S IT. It is LITERALLY 4 people out of 26.
Fans of this show (specifically this website & the facebook page) complain about EVERY SINGLE THING, from last season's "Draw" element which provided epic elimination rounds we would've never seen without it or trying to keep things interesting by using a Redemption Island twist from Survivor. This show changes it's format literally every season and tries to keep fans interested, but all they do is COMPLAIN COMPLAIN COMPLAIN about every little thing and i'm so sick and tired of it. The complaints are SO petty and i'm gonna laugh when this series gets cancelled and a year later they'll talk about how they miss the show so much and how a chapter of their life has ended because their favorite television show growing up got cancelled and blah blah blah.
**** and enjoy it before it's over. There is nothing wrong with this TV show, it's one of the best reality shows on television right now and when people constantly complain about BMP or MTV ruining the show, it makes me think that it's actually the fans ruining this show. They are the ones who don't tune in because they're mad 4 people out of 26 are from another show on MTV. They're the ones not supporting the show because someone gets randomly selected to go into elimination. They're the ones throwing a fit because producers try to keep this show fresh and have the competitors and the fans on their toes.
At the end of the day this is a TELEVISION SHOW. They want to keep the TV show interesting. If you don't like it, then go do something that makes you happy instead of constantly trashing the show because producers want to keep things interesting. This is not the NFL, this is a TV show about entertainment. The TV show comes first, the competition comes 2nd. The show may not be perfect, but NO show on television is perfect so quit being so petty.
I beg to differ. On the interesting part: while they do try different things like Free Agents, they then strive to kill it by having the same people as the past couple shows, yet again. There is a lot wrong with the show but MTV/BMP & the "casual" fans don't care enough to fix any of it at this point.
The "OMG WHERE IS JOHNNY BANANAS WHY ISN'T HE ON THIS SEASON" type fans do have a big hand in ruining this show. Most blame of course goes to MTV/BMP. Seasons 2 should've been this show's renaissance.
Exactly. I don't mind all the twists to the game and the attempts to shake it up but there's one thing that they don't really address and the reason why these twists keep falling flat. THEY KEEP CASTING THE SAME DAMN PEOPLE! And you know what? you can't blame that on the fans. That has been this show's main criticism for years now. And that's on BMP's shoulders.
You also mention the Backpack crowd. That's also on BMP's head. Because they kept casting that Idiot for so long people got used to him and attatched to him so now we have to see his *** on every ******* challenge. Same thing with CT and Wes too and some of the newer crowd too. They need to make more of an effort to differenate the cast. Because you can have all the twist and turns in the world but the cast sucks and/or is repetitive it means NOTHING!
All true, because it is up to them to decide on who gets cast & we see they drop the ball constantly.
Probably unpopular, might be very popular lol who knows but **** it:
I don't know about any other shows from MTV, but a RW/RR v.s. VH1 crossover around 2007-2009 would've been gold.
I could never tell if the Vh1 people were playing up their character or if they were truly dumb. I'd imagine RW/RR would destroy them unfortunately :(.
I think it was both. Depending on who they cast they might have been a lil force lmao people like Buddha & Hoopz would've been their saviors.
Oh and you know what? The AYTO arguments for them is stupid. It doesn't matter if The Challenge is and AYTO is all on the same network doesn't justify AYTO's presences on the challenge. By that logic Teen Mom/Fantasy Factory/True Life/Virgin Territory/Catfish deserve to be on the Challenge too because hey they're on the same network right? Same thing with other Networks and other shows. Love and Hip Hop/Baskettball Wives/Mob Wives are on the same network. But does that mean Renee should be mixing it up with Tami? Should Joslielne go head to head with Drita? It's a stupid argument. You could do the same with scripted shows too.
Oh and for the record...Dustin is awesome. He's entertaining and fun to watch. Not to mention the whole frapad thing. It's a shame he went home so early last season. I hope he stays longer because I feel like he could really bring something to this show. Seasons 2 proved that.
We'll agree to disagree. To be honest he hasn't done anything for me to dislike him, but there's just something about him that annoys me greatly. Like everytime he appears on my screen I just want to turn off the tv.
Oh and you know what? The AYTO arguments for them is stupid. It doesn't matter if The Challenge is and AYTO is all on the same network doesn't justify AYTO's presences on the challenge. By that logic Teen Mom/Fantasy Factory/True Life/Virgin Territory/Catfish deserve to be on the Challenge too because hey they're on the same network right? Same thing with other Networks and other shows. Love and Hip Hop/Baskettball Wives/Mob Wives are on the same network. But does that mean Renee should be mixing it up with Tami? Should Joslielne go head to head with Drita? It's a stupid argument. You could do the same with scripted shows too.
The thing is, we know they're not going to bring those shows on nor would those reality tv "celebrities" that get payed big bucks, ever go on this show. True Life & Catfish isn't comparable because it follows the life of 1 person for 1 episode so obviously they'd never be invited. AYTO/RW/RR follows multiple people living together for weeks on end unlike Virgin Territory, Teen Mom, etc.. None of those other shows on MTV are set up like that. AYTO/RR/RW are casts the same types of people (young, outgoing, interesting people usually in their 20's) and the shows all have pretty similar enviroments unlike these other shows you brought up.
Also even if they did bring those people on the Challenge as well, then oh well. The Challenge is a show where they bring reality stars from MTV shows to compete for a cash prize. That's simply it. You can't argue against it because that's a fact.
At the end of it all, at my age now I see the game that they play. While they COULD cast more diverse, interesting, intelligent people with new stories, it won't happen because MTV is a HUGE factor in why society has the notion that this is all people in their early 20's are about: drinking, having sex & just generally having nothing going on other than looks. That is what they promote & that is what will be on their network.
I know that I(And others) complain about this show alot and it may seem like we hate it..But the reason why people complain is because we LOVE this show and we know it can be better than what it is now. People do it all the time with other shows they're huge fans of and it's no different with us I feel like.
I mean for me. I look at what this show can be(and what it once was) Exciting/Entertaining/Fun...And then look at what it is..Repetitive/Tiring/Recycled..And it's just frustrating..It sucks to see a show that I've been watching for so long become a broken record when it could've avoided that. The show could be so much better but BMP/MTV don't seem to want to make it better and that's frustrating to me as a fan that sees that this show could be one of the best reality competitions around(once again) But having that potential not realized because of dumb decisions on the producers part is just..frustrating.
I know this might be a litle dramatic but whatever. I like this show and want to see it shine and win.
I know that I(And others) complain about this show alot and it may seem like we hate it..But the reason why people complain is because we LOVE this show and we know it can be better than what it is now. People do it all the time with other shows they're huge fans of and it's no different with us I feel like.
I mean for me. I look at what this show can be(and what it once was) Exciting/Entertaining/Fun...And then look at what it is..Repetitive/Tiring/Recycled..And it's just frustrating..It sucks to see a show that I've been watching for so long become a broken record when it could've avoided that. The show could be so much better but BMP/MTV don't seem to want to make it better and that's frustrating to me as a fan that sees that this show could be one of the best reality competitions around(once again) But having that potential not realized because of dumb decisions on the producers part is just..frustrating.
I know this might be a litle dramatic but whatever. I like this show and want to see it shine and win.
All of this as well. This is really the ONLY show I still keep up with. I don't even watch TV anymore but I still keep up with this show somehow. This show is supposed to win so hard but the makers/producers of it are in their own way.
Because your arguments don't make sense, read what you're writing before you post it. You seem upset, calm down.
For example you said i'm all for every show on MTV to go on The Challenge. I didn't state that at all actually, so I don't know where that came from.
Another example, you said changing the title isn't an excuse to allow another show to go onto The Challenge series. How isn't that an excuse? They're the producers, they can change the title and the rules of the show. This isn't anything new. Freshmeat & Spring Break people were introduced years ago so this isn't the first time it's happened. It is a legit "excuse" whether you like it or not lol.
And technically people for AYTO did win because they're on the show whether you like it or not :).
#TeamAYTO - 1
#Complainers - None
"Go ahead, i'll wait"
I'm actually pretty calm, thank you very much.
I said by you supporting this the way you do, you're also okay with every other show coming on. You didn't say it, but how you've been writing and the way you've supported the show, it just seems like every show on MTV is also entitled to coming onto The Challenge.
You can't compare AYTO and FM/SBC. AYTO is another show, FM was hosted as a Challenge season with RW/RR alumni, same with SBC for the exception of being hosted as an actual season. Besides that, we only got Camila.
And just because they're on the show, doesn't mean you/they win. It's just obvious that people who plan these shows are making mistakes.
#TeamAYTO - irrelevant and LOL
#Complainers - people who give their opinions are now considered complainers. so who really gives a ****.
Byeeee at you.
Actually I can compare AYTO and FM/SBC because they weren't apart of the "Real World/Road Rules" original title that you were complaining about earlier. So don't retract your statement now LOL. Also "SBC only brought Camila", yeah and AYTO only brought Simone, JJ, Adam, & Britt. But you're still complaining eh?
And yeah we do win because they're on the show whether you keep complaining or not. And guess what? You'll still watch and complain. How many times do I have to repeat myself?
You're very contradicting and your constant "byee at you" "hun" and cursing does show your anger.
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Uh, neither was AYTO... I'm sure they don't have Real World/Road Rules title either.
Fair enough, they only brought Simone, JJ, Adam and Brittany, but SBC/FM is not in comparison to AYTO.
Your entire base is that we've been complaining, but you're on a forum for discussion on The Real World/The Challenge. Don't act as if you're a saint here when you're not. You've been upset over nothing yourself this entire time. I'll still watch, god forbid I might forget, but either way I'm very entitled to my opinion.
I'm not really angry actually, but the fact is, you're frustrating as hell. You've come on to most of the topics I view and all I've seen you whine over is spoilers and how you aren't going to read this and that. You're frustrating, not this topic, but you are. Your ignorance is a bliss to me because I don't have to put up with your shit.
I'm glad timster brought that up cause I feel the same way. Way to many people come on here complaining about small things as if you aren't gonna watch the show. Then people easily point the finger at BMP with all these issues. Tired of the same ole cast? They gave you BOTS and you still complained. Wanted your favorites back? They gave you Rivals 2 and you still complained. Wanted something new and fresh where alliances didn't matter? They gave you Free Agents and the draw but people still complained and now you still complain about the same people be cast? They gave you 4 from Explosion and 4 from AYTO but of course everyone still complains. It's a show that we don't run or work for to get too hyped up about. Complaining constantly isn't going to turn back time and redo this season with a new cast.
Because your arguments don't make sense, read what you're writing before you post it. You seem upset, calm down.
For example you said i'm all for every show on MTV to go on The Challenge. I didn't state that at all actually, so I don't know where that came from.
Another example, you said changing the title isn't an excuse to allow another show to go onto The Challenge series. How isn't that an excuse? They're the producers, they can change the title and the rules of the show. This isn't anything new. Freshmeat & Spring Break people were introduced years ago so this isn't the first time it's happened. It is a legit "excuse" whether you like it or not lol.
And technically people for AYTO did win because they're on the show whether you like it or not :).
#TeamAYTO - 1
#Complainers - None
"Go ahead, i'll wait"
I'm actually pretty calm, thank you very much.
I said by you supporting this the way you do, you're also okay with every other show coming on. You didn't say it, but how you've been writing and the way you've supported the show, it just seems like every show on MTV is also entitled to coming onto The Challenge.
You can't compare AYTO and FM/SBC. AYTO is another show, FM was hosted as a Challenge season with RW/RR alumni, same with SBC for the exception of being hosted as an actual season. Besides that, we only got Camila.
And just because they're on the show, doesn't mean you/they win. It's just obvious that people who plan these shows are making mistakes.
#TeamAYTO - irrelevant and LOL
#Complainers - people who give their opinions are now considered complainers. so who really gives a ****.
Byeeee at you.
Actually I can compare AYTO and FM/SBC because they weren't apart of the "Real World/Road Rules" original title that you were complaining about earlier. So don't retract your statement now LOL. Also "SBC only brought Camila", yeah and AYTO only brought Simone, JJ, Adam, & Britt. But you're still complaining eh?
And yeah we do win because they're on the show whether you keep complaining or not. And guess what? You'll still watch and complain. How many times do I have to repeat myself?
You're very contradicting and your constant "byee at you" "hun" and cursing does show your anger.
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Uh, neither was AYTO... I'm sure they don't have Real World/Road Rules title either.
Fair enough, they only brought Simone, JJ, Adam and Brittany, but SBC/FM is not in comparison to AYTO.
Your entire base is that we've been complaining, but you're on a forum for discussion on The Real World/The Challenge. Don't act as if you're a saint here when you're not. You've been upset over nothing yourself this entire time. I'll still watch, god forbid I might forget, but either way I'm very entitled to my opinion.
I'm not really angry actually, but the fact is, you're frustrating as hell. You've come on to most of the topics I view and all I've seen you whine over is spoilers and how you aren't going to read this and that. You're frustrating, not this topic, but you are. Your ignorance is a bliss to me because I don't have to put up with your shit.
Go back to swooning over Jonna, Timster.
With that said, this argument is going nowhere because you act like you can't read and you are mad that I called out the constant complainers on here because it applies to you. Accept it and move on. Stay pressed and enjoy watching the next season before the entire series gets cancelled because negative nancy no-lives like yourself, throw temper tantrums like the 12 year old you are because things don't go your way on a freakin TV show. Get yo life.
I'm glad timster brought that up cause I feel the same way. Way to many people come on here complaining about small things as if you aren't gonna watch the show. Then people easily point the finger at BMP with all these issues. Tired of the same ole cast? They gave you BOTS and you still complained. Wanted your favorites back? They gave you Rivals 2 and you still complained. Wanted something new and fresh where alliances didn't matter? They gave you Free Agents and the draw but people still complained and now you still complain about the same people be cast? They gave you 4 from Explosion and 4 from AYTO but of course everyone still complains. It's a show that we don't run or work for to get too hyped up about. Complaining constantly isn't going to turn back time and redo this season with a new cast.
I'm just gonna keep copying & pasting this from now on when someone on here tries to argue against this.
This post gave me SO MUCH LIFE. That's all that needs to be said.
I never got why people didn't like the Draw. Some of the castmembers didn't like it because they couldn't coast/screw/buy their way to the end like they usually do, but it made no sense for the viewers not to IMO but the teeny-boppers & JEK era fanatics MTV loves are helping to kill the show as well.
With that said, this argument is going nowhere because you act like you can't read and you are mad that I called out the constant complainers on here because it applies to you. Accept it and move on. Stay pressed and enjoy watching the next season before the entire series gets cancelled because negative nancy no-lives like yourself, throw temper tantrums like the 12 year old you are because things don't go your way on a freakin TV show. Get yo life.
Aw, look at you. You're one of the many people who cry and think that people who have the balls to argue against your points are just kids who don't know how to read. I am going to stay pressed, I am going to watch the season, and you're STILL going to be whiny as ever. Who wins? Not you, that's for sure.
You're also calling a good chunk of this site complainers when I know MOST of them are very intelligent with how they word their arguments. So no, they aren't complaining, there's just things they don't like, and that's fine because no one is easy to please. Keep on drinkin that tea though, this conversation should be over, but I'll let you decide that.
I never got why people didn't like the Draw. Some of the castmembers didn't like it because they couldn't coast/screw/buy their way to the end like they usually do, but it made no sense for the viewers not to IMO but the teeny-boppers & JEK era fanatics MTV loves are helping to kill the show as well.
PLEASE don't even bring that up. Besides the AYTO drama.
The other 2 most annoying arguements are people hating on The Draw and people complaining about Devyn making it to the final without going into elimination.
Graphik I know you've been disagreeing with me you have to admit that they have tried to listen to fans and apply it to the show. Again it's not PERFECT, but they have listened and you can't put all the blame on BMP.
They added the draw because we were sick and tired of the coasters & the strong group of friends making it to the end without having to do jack squat. This format really switched things up.
They made BOTS full of rookies because we complained about the veteran dominance on the show with repeat winners.
We were tired of pair seasons so they did Free Agents.
With that said, this argument is going nowhere because you act like you can't read and you are mad that I called out the constant complainers on here because it applies to you. Accept it and move on. Stay pressed and enjoy watching the next season before the entire series gets cancelled because negative nancy no-lives like yourself, throw temper tantrums like the 12 year old you are because things don't go your way on a freakin TV show. Get yo life.
Aw, look at you. You're one of the many people who cry and think that people who have the balls to argue against your points are just kids who don't know how to read. I am going to stay pressed, I am going to watch the season, and you're STILL going to be whiny as ever. Who wins? Not you, that's for sure.
You're also calling a good chunk of this site complainers when I know MOST of them are very intelligent with how they word their arguments. So no, they aren't complaining, there's just things they don't like, and that's fine because no one is easy to please. Keep on drinkin that tea though, this conversation should be over, but I'll let you decide that.
Again your argument didn't make sense.
"I am going to watch the season, and you're STILL going to be whiny as ever. Who wins? Not you, that's for sure."
No i'm not gonna be the one whining because I love this season's format and cast, you will be the one crying about the cast like you have been the entire time. I'm gonna love it, so who wins? I do, not you LOL. You will waste your time on this website writing down your pointless thoughts and complaints, and guess what changes? Nothing, because this season has already been filmed. And guess what? You'll still watch. Your logic is flawed and you refuse to admit it.
I feel like they only included Are You The One? cast members as a last resort. They were out of exes pairs that were willing and available to do the season so they went with the next best thing. I'm hopeful that they'll spice it up, especially Simone, but honestly I have no idea
LOL. And you're the type who thinks you're right all the time. Get over yourself, hun, thanks!
I'm so sick of people being like "it doesn't make sense", because then I have to explain myself over and over again. How does it not make sense? If you can't argue against it, then you can't argue for it either. Your arguments are the exact same thing that the minority that actually like AYTO are always giving, so stop acting as if you won.
But go on, I'm waiting.
Idk why I put there's nothing wrong with this show part because I actually meant to put it's not perfect, but no show on TV is perfect. But you can deny that they do change the format pretty much every season which changes the game.
But I would agree with you about them recycling contestants, but I honestly feel they've gotten so much better at it besides not giving Bananas a break. Other than that, I can't complain about it. Actually what bothers me more than anything with "super veterans" is when they get ALL the air-time. I don't hate the fact that they're there, I just hate when the rookies can't develop a storyline of their own. In Free Agents they did a great job not giving CT & Bananas all the airtime. We finally go new characters to enjoy.
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Seasons 2 was BAD. The cast was easily the weakest one we've ever had, the girls were just horrible. Frank & Marie were just truly unbearable. Fresh meat and New Orleans were just awful.
The only good things from that season IMO were the missions, Zach vs CJ, knot so fast, and Sarah making the final even if Devyn ruined it for her.
Me too, Dustin was an idiot on vegas , everything he said was just plain stupid no wonder why he upset mike so much, literally everything he said was either full of ignorance or something about how obsessed he was with heather.
I didn't mind him on bots, (mostly because frank was there and he was worse than him imo ) and he has been invisible on all the challenges. Actually I thought he will become the breakout star from that season just given the fact a lot people liked him on vegas, but he has been wallpaper on the challenges.
Because your arguments don't make sense, read what you're writing before you post it. You seem upset, calm down.
For example you said i'm all for every show on MTV to go on The Challenge. I didn't state that at all actually, so I don't know where that came from.
Another example, you said changing the title isn't an excuse to allow another show to go onto The Challenge series. How isn't that an excuse? They're the producers, they can change the title and the rules of the show. This isn't anything new. Freshmeat & Spring Break people were introduced years ago so this isn't the first time it's happened. It is a legit "excuse" whether you like it or not lol.
And technically people for AYTO did win because they're on the show whether you like it or not
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#TeamAYTO - 1
#Complainers - None
"Go ahead, i'll wait"
Exactly. I don't mind all the twists to the game and the attempts to shake it up but there's one thing that they don't really address and the reason why these twists keep falling flat. THEY KEEP CASTING THE SAME DAMN PEOPLE! And you know what? you can't blame that on the fans. That has been this show's main criticism for years now. And that's on BMP's shoulders.
You also mention the Backpack crowd. That's also on BMP's head. Because they kept casting that Idiot for so long people got used to him and attatched to him so now we have to see his *** on every ******* challenge. Same thing with CT and Wes too and some of the newer crowd too. They need to make more of an effort to differenate the cast. Because you can have all the twist and turns in the world but the cast sucks and/or is repetitive it means NOTHING!
Oh and for the record...Dustin is awesome. He's entertaining and fun to watch. Not to mention the whole frapad thing. It's a shame he went home so early last season. I hope he stays longer because I feel like he could really bring something to this show. Seasons 2 proved that.
Probably unpopular, might be very popular lol who knows but **** it:
I don't know about any other shows from MTV, but a RW/RR v.s. VH1 crossover around 2007-2009 would've been gold.
Well you're DebutAlbum so I already know your stance on Freshmeat, Spring Break, AYTO people. But that was the point in my argument. They tried to keep things fresh by bringing in 4 people from AYTO. This isn't just any group of people. These were some of the biggest and most interesting characters of Season 1. And before you say "Why can't they bring on people from the Real World that want to go on?"
Because again, this is a TV show. Some of these people just weren't interesting in the producer's minds to bring back, so their flame is out. I don't agree with ignoring a bunch of real worlders, and I do some of them deserve a shot, but not every single real worlder is interesting enough for The Challenge especially if they were boring on their original RW season. And the 4 they picked from AYTO are way more interesting than 85% of the RWers ignored imo. But that's just an opinion, not a fact.
I'm actually pretty calm, thank you very much.
I said by you supporting this the way you do, you're also okay with every other show coming on. You didn't say it, but how you've been writing and the way you've supported the show, it just seems like every show on MTV is also entitled to coming onto The Challenge.
You can't compare AYTO and FM/SBC. AYTO is another show, FM was hosted as a Challenge season with RW/RR alumni, same with SBC for the exception of being hosted as an actual season. Besides that, we only got Camila.
And just because they're on the show, doesn't mean you/they win. It's just obvious that people who plan these shows are making mistakes.
#TeamAYTO - irrelevant and LOL
#Complainers - people who give their opinions are now considered complainers. so who really gives a ****.
Byeeee at you.
I could never tell if the Vh1 people were playing up their character or if they were truly dumb. I'd imagine RW/RR would destroy them unfortunately :(.
Actually I can compare AYTO and FM/SBC because they weren't apart of the "Real World/Road Rules" original title that you were complaining about earlier. So don't retract your statement now LOL. Also "SBC only brought Camila", yeah and AYTO only brought Simone, JJ, Adam, & Britt. But you're still complaining eh?
And yeah we do win because they're on the show whether you keep complaining or not. And guess what? You'll still watch and complain. How many times do I have to repeat myself?
You're very contradicting and your constant "byee at you" "hun" and cursing does show your anger.
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All true, because it is up to them to decide on who gets cast & we see they drop the ball constantly.
I think it was both. Depending on who they cast they might have been a lil force lmao people like Buddha & Hoopz would've been their saviors.
Oh and you know what? The AYTO arguments for them is stupid. It doesn't matter if The Challenge is and AYTO is all on the same network doesn't justify AYTO's presences on the challenge. By that logic Teen Mom/Fantasy Factory/True Life/Virgin Territory/Catfish deserve to be on the Challenge too because hey they're on the same network right? Same thing with other Networks and other shows. Love and Hip Hop/Baskettball Wives/Mob Wives are on the same network. But does that mean Renee should be mixing it up with Tami? Should Joslielne go head to head with Drita? It's a stupid argument. You could do the same with scripted shows too.
We'll agree to disagree. To be honest he hasn't done anything for me to dislike him, but there's just something about him that annoys me greatly. Like everytime he appears on my screen I just want to turn off the tv.
The thing is, we know they're not going to bring those shows on nor would those reality tv "celebrities" that get payed big bucks, ever go on this show. True Life & Catfish isn't comparable because it follows the life of 1 person for 1 episode so obviously they'd never be invited. AYTO/RW/RR follows multiple people living together for weeks on end unlike Virgin Territory, Teen Mom, etc.. None of those other shows on MTV are set up like that. AYTO/RR/RW are casts the same types of people (young, outgoing, interesting people usually in their 20's) and the shows all have pretty similar enviroments unlike these other shows you brought up.
Also even if they did bring those people on the Challenge as well, then oh well. The Challenge is a show where they bring reality stars from MTV shows to compete for a cash prize. That's simply it. You can't argue against it because that's a fact.
At the end of it all, at my age now I see the game that they play. While they COULD cast more diverse, interesting, intelligent people with new stories, it won't happen because MTV is a HUGE factor in why society has the notion that this is all people in their early 20's are about: drinking, having sex & just generally having nothing going on other than looks. That is what they promote & that is what will be on their network.
Oh and one more thing...
I know that I(And others) complain about this show alot and it may seem like we hate it..But the reason why people complain is because we LOVE this show and we know it can be better than what it is now. People do it all the time with other shows they're huge fans of and it's no different with us I feel like.
I mean for me. I look at what this show can be(and what it once was) Exciting/Entertaining/Fun...And then look at what it is..Repetitive/Tiring/Recycled..And it's just frustrating..It sucks to see a show that I've been watching for so long become a broken record when it could've avoided that. The show could be so much better but BMP/MTV don't seem to want to make it better and that's frustrating to me as a fan that sees that this show could be one of the best reality competitions around(once again) But having that potential not realized because of dumb decisions on the producers part is just..frustrating.
I know this might be a litle dramatic but whatever. I like this show and want to see it shine and win.
All of this as well. This is really the ONLY show I still keep up with. I don't even watch TV anymore but I still keep up with this show somehow. This show is supposed to win so hard but the makers/producers of it are in their own way.
Uh, neither was AYTO... I'm sure they don't have Real World/Road Rules title either.
Fair enough, they only brought Simone, JJ, Adam and Brittany, but SBC/FM is not in comparison to AYTO.
Your entire base is that we've been complaining, but you're on a forum for discussion on The Real World/The Challenge. Don't act as if you're a saint here when you're not. You've been upset over nothing yourself this entire time. I'll still watch, god forbid I might forget, but either way I'm very entitled to my opinion.
I'm not really angry actually, but the fact is, you're frustrating as hell. You've come on to most of the topics I view and all I've seen you whine over is spoilers and how you aren't going to read this and that. You're frustrating, not this topic, but you are. Your ignorance is a bliss to me because I don't have to put up with your shit.
Go back to swooning over Jonna, Timster.
I'm glad timster brought that up cause I feel the same way. Way to many people come on here complaining about small things as if you aren't gonna watch the show. Then people easily point the finger at BMP with all these issues. Tired of the same ole cast? They gave you BOTS and you still complained. Wanted your favorites back? They gave you Rivals 2 and you still complained. Wanted something new and fresh where alliances didn't matter? They gave you Free Agents and the draw but people still complained and now you still complain about the same people be cast? They gave you 4 from Explosion and 4 from AYTO but of course everyone still complains. It's a show that we don't run or work for to get too hyped up about. Complaining constantly isn't going to turn back time and redo this season with a new cast.
With that said, this argument is going nowhere because you act like you can't read and you are mad that I called out the constant complainers on here because it applies to you. Accept it and move on. Stay pressed and enjoy watching the next season before the entire series gets cancelled because negative nancy no-lives like yourself, throw temper tantrums like the 12 year old you are because things don't go your way on a freakin TV show. Get yo life.
But i'mma keep drinkin my tea.
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I'm just gonna keep copying & pasting this from now on when someone on here tries to argue against this.
This post gave me SO MUCH LIFE. That's all that needs to be said.
I never got why people didn't like the Draw. Some of the castmembers didn't like it because they couldn't coast/screw/buy their way to the end like they usually do, but it made no sense for the viewers not to IMO but the teeny-boppers & JEK era fanatics MTV loves are helping to kill the show as well.
Aw, look at you. You're one of the many people who cry and think that people who have the balls to argue against your points are just kids who don't know how to read. I am going to stay pressed, I am going to watch the season, and you're STILL going to be whiny as ever. Who wins? Not you, that's for sure.
You're also calling a good chunk of this site complainers when I know MOST of them are very intelligent with how they word their arguments. So no, they aren't complaining, there's just things they don't like, and that's fine because no one is easy to please. Keep on drinkin that tea though, this conversation should be over, but I'll let you decide that.
PLEASE don't even bring that up. Besides the AYTO drama.
The other 2 most annoying arguements are people hating on The Draw and people complaining about Devyn making it to the final without going into elimination.
Graphik I know you've been disagreeing with me you have to admit that they have tried to listen to fans and apply it to the show. Again it's not PERFECT, but they have listened and you can't put all the blame on BMP.
They added the draw because we were sick and tired of the coasters & the strong group of friends making it to the end without having to do jack squat. This format really switched things up.
They made BOTS full of rookies because we complained about the veteran dominance on the show with repeat winners.
We were tired of pair seasons so they did Free Agents.
Again your argument didn't make sense.
"I am going to watch the season, and you're STILL going to be whiny as ever. Who wins? Not you, that's for sure."
No i'm not gonna be the one whining because I love this season's format and cast, you will be the one crying about the cast like you have been the entire time. I'm gonna love it, so who wins? I do, not you LOL. You will waste your time on this website writing down your pointless thoughts and complaints, and guess what changes? Nothing, because this season has already been filmed. And guess what? You'll still watch. Your logic is flawed and you refuse to admit it.
I feel like they only included Are You The One? cast members as a last resort. They were out of exes pairs that were willing and available to do the season so they went with the next best thing. I'm hopeful that they'll spice it up, especially Simone, but honestly I have no idea
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