What Portland has to do with it is anyone's guess but she told Averey to square up before she hit Johnny.
a nia recap, must be a credible source.
and ASKING someone to square up isnt the same as actually initiating the first attack. one quick little "it can be a two for one combo" is hardly courageous considering one of them was a man that already demonstrated he wasnt going to lay hands on a transexual. averey hit nia FIRST. averey also happens to be a petite, feminine girl built like someone with two XX chromosomes unlike nia. the risk was all on averey for initiating the fight with a transexual that she knew would fight back. do you understand the relationship between risks and actions here?
you shouldnt be giving Nia props for going at someone on twitter. there is a huge difference between the internet and real life so it's no surprise that nia talks a lot of **** on the internet but doesnt even display an iota of that same aggression and boldness in person. the only type of people she'll get feisty with in person are the boys like jordan and johnny beacuse she knows she can do anything to them and they dont do anything back. other then that she's quiet as a mouse.
jenn has gone off on more people than mandi and cara maria. Try laurel, johnny bananas, aneesa, kenny, rachel(you know, the one that Tina was following aroud like a puppy dog on Inferno 2), and basically anyone else that disrespects her. she wasnt the best athlete in her beginning seasons but she has always been quick to anger and apathetic about the consequences of her actions or words. more than tina? hard to say, they both grew up in rough areas. just ask the cast mates(derrick, CT) yourself, most of them will say that jenn is psycho and only cares about being in the moment when she snaps
jenn is way better eye candy than tina anyways so jenn>>>>tina
Lmao now Nia doesn't go off on anybody but the boys...ok. Like I said, it was only through Twitter because Laurel is a "smile-in-your-face then talk shit" type. She's done it to Sarah as well.
We already talked about Jenn v.s. Laurel. I want to see video of this Jenn v.s. Aneesa, & Rachel is basically a robot & didn't give Jenn the time of day anyway unless she wanted some ***** lol
okay well go see it, its on the Duel 2 and the first night they were there, Jenn was cussing out rachel. it is amusing that you're trying to make assessments on her character without having even watched her. what does rachel not giving her the time of day have anything to do with how jenn went off on her? yo missde the point. the point happens to be that rachel is cold and confident, buff and one of the alpha females in the house yet jenn still had no problem popping off in spite of the possibility of significant consequences.
Okay well I said I wanted to see video of Jenn v.s. Aneesa, not no damn Jenn v.s. Rachel so YOU missed the point. Rachel has never been one to be confrontational in the first place so I never would expect her to fight unless she absolutely had to. It is amusing that you think that i've said all of this about Jenn but i've supposedly never seen her. Kill that & rethink what you'll say before before you post it.
doesnt matter which one you wanted to see and which one i have been talking about since jenn has been upfront about her anger to BOTH of them.
rachel isnt confrontational in the hormonal act like a psycho bonobo chimp sense but shes bold enough in a composed way that demonstrates confidence. shes still considered an alpha female and she still ran that game and she's still buff and way bigger than jenn, all factors and powers that she yields which make her a "risk" to **** off, yet jenn did it.
you also dont address the fact that she usde to fight with johnny and kenny to the point where even they found it exasperating and frustrating to keep the animosity going on.
clearly jenn is a ***** with little self awareness of her actions and restraint. her track record of fighting with people bigger than she is on some level(political, physical) demonstrates this
And I just so happened to see this Jenn v.s. Aneesa. While she did "confront" her about whatever Aneesa was saying, she didn't get anywhere near as loud & turnt up as she did with Mandi/Cara. She saved it all for the confessionals & when she had the chance to call Aneesa into the Duel, she chickened out & called Diem in who ended up kicking her *** anyway.
she was drunk when she went at mandi and cara. alcohol lowers your hesitations and that's its univesral ffect for everybody. jenn is confrontational when she is sober and she's even more confrontational when you give her a substance that specifically manipulates chemical reactions in your brain for that purpose. not sure why thats a surprise. she would still probably be majorly *****y if you gave her a bowl of pot to smoke
All the excuses in the world & so much backtracking.
For one, you don't get the privilege to tell me what matters & what doesn't. I was talking about Jenn/Aneesa & had not said anything about Rachel up until that point. The whole point is I don't give a good golly **** what happened with Jenn & Rachel because 1) I wasn't talking about Rachel & 2) As long as i've been seeing Rachel i've always known that she wasn't confrontational & very stoic, period so whatever Jenn *****ed at her about is moot because Rachel wouldn't give a damn regardless of who it was. Mark is also so-called buff but not confrontational in the least.
As far as her v.s. Johnny/Kenny....countless women have done that. That doesn't make her stand out as someone to be "feared". Hell Susie has had some tiffs with them.
As far as the Portland shit i'm not getting into that discussion, as you & others have shown that yall will pull anything out of the crevices of your ******** to "prove" that Nia lost lmao all the backtracking & new fighting rules made up on the spot does not erase that fact that nobody really got the upper hand, but if anything it leans toward Nia having it. The fact that it's still being brought up almost 2 years later shows how much it still gets under people's skin, why I don't know.
you shouldnt be giving Nia props for going at someone on twitter. there is a huge difference between the internet and real life so it's no surprise that nia talks a lot of **** on the internet but doesnt even display an iota of that same aggression and boldness in person. the only type of people she'll get feisty with in person are the boys like jordan and johnny beacuse she knows she can do anything to them and they dont do anything back. other then that she's quiet as a mouse.
jenn has gone off on more people than mandi and cara maria. Try laurel, johnny bananas, aneesa, kenny, rachel(you know, the one that Tina was following aroud like a puppy dog on Inferno 2), and basically anyone else that disrespects her. she wasnt the best athlete in her beginning seasons but she has always been quick to anger and apathetic about the consequences of her actions or words. more than tina? hard to say, they both grew up in rough areas. just ask the cast mates(derrick, CT) yourself, most of them will say that jenn is psycho and only cares about being in the moment when she snaps
jenn is way better eye candy than tina anyways so jenn>>>>tina
Lmao now Nia doesn't go off on anybody but the boys...ok. Like I said, it was only through Twitter because Laurel is a "smile-in-your-face then talk shit" type. She's done it to Sarah as well.
We already talked about Jenn v.s. Laurel. I want to see video of this Jenn v.s. Aneesa, & Rachel is basically a robot & didn't give Jenn the time of day anyway unless she wanted some ***** lol
okay well go see it, its on the Duel 2 and the first night they were there, Jenn was cussing out rachel. it is amusing that you're trying to make assessments on her character without having even watched her. what does rachel not giving her the time of day have anything to do with how jenn went off on her? yo missde the point. the point happens to be that rachel is cold and confident, buff and one of the alpha females in the house yet jenn still had no problem popping off in spite of the possibility of significant consequences.
Okay well I said I wanted to see video of Jenn v.s. Aneesa, not no damn Jenn v.s. Rachel so YOU missed the point. Rachel has never been one to be confrontational in the first place so I never would expect her to fight unless she absolutely had to. It is amusing that you think that i've said all of this about Jenn but i've supposedly never seen her. Kill that & rethink what you'll say before before you post it.
doesnt matter which one you wanted to see and which one i have been talking about since jenn has been upfront about her anger to BOTH of them.
rachel isnt confrontational in the hormonal act like a psycho bonobo chimp sense but shes bold enough in a composed way that demonstrates confidence. shes still considered an alpha female and she still ran that game and she's still buff and way bigger than jenn, all factors and powers that she yields which make her a "risk" to **** off, yet jenn did it.
you also dont address the fact that she usde to fight with johnny and kenny to the point where even they found it exasperating and frustrating to keep the animosity going on.
clearly jenn is a ***** with little self awareness of her actions and restraint. her track record of fighting with people bigger than she is on some level(political, physical) demonstrates this
and ASKING someone to square up isnt the same as actually initiating the first attack. one quick little "it can be a two for one combo" is hardly courageous considering one of them was a man that already demonstrated he wasnt going to lay hands on a transexual. averey hit nia FIRST. averey also happens to be a petite, feminine girl built like someone with two XX chromosomes unlike nia. the risk was all on averey for initiating the fight with a transexual that she knew would fight back. do you understand the relationship between risks and actions here?
She hated both of them on the Island. Kenny was pushing Ryan so hard to take Jenn's key because he said that he couldn't stand her. I think she was pissed about the fact that he bragged about sleeping with her on Inferno 3. I think she only warmed up to him on Fresh Meat 2 because a) She's close friends with Paula and Paula and Kenny are best friends and b) her partner Noor was a big fan of Kenny's. She also said she loathed Johnny until Cutthroat.
Yay! I might be late to this Jenn bashing thing, but I'm excited. I think Jenn is a sexy momma, but she's obnoxious as hell. She's nothing but a punk who knows how to choose her fights. She's overly aggressive to passive and submissive girls like Cara and Mandi, but doesn't display as much anger when dealing with other girls like Laurel and Aneesa. You can clearly see from all her altercations, she was physically abusive to Cara and Mandi who weren't going to fight back at all, but not once did she get phsyically confrotational to Annessa and Laurel. Yeah, she may have mouthed them off, but she never became overtly aggressive. Like I always though, Jenn is a bully and a punk. She chooses her fights when she feels she has someone to have her back. She's not stupid, but she isn't some confident chick people think she is. She has a napoleon complex that causes her to bark as loud as she can to everyone so she can feel compitent. She is a decent competitor, but her social game is what helped her out the most. From the very few eliminations she's been in, she's lost to almost all of them. She's a small tough chick, who was born in a rough neighbor, sure, but doesn't mean she has this consitant need to validate herself and her ego by trying to put down another person. I also thing she gets mouthy in reunion shows in order to get attention, but then again, all these kids want attention. In regards to Laurel, i agree with the afermentioned comment; Laurel is impulsive but not stupid. Her being cival and courteous to Nia is by no means acting fake to her. Laurel is just quick to react when she feels attacked or wronged. I think she has a sharp tongue, but there are far more poisoneous cast members that can put Laurel in her place. We should make the list of the best/sharpest tongues their were on challenge history.
All the excuses in the world & so much backtracking.
For one, you don't get the privilege to tell me what matters & what doesn't. I was talking about Jenn/Aneesa & had not said anything about Rachel up until that point. The whole point is I don't give a good golly **** what happened with Jenn & Rachel because 1) I wasn't talking about Rachel & 2) As long as i've been seeing Rachel i've always known that she wasn't confrontational & very stoic, period so whatever Jenn *****ed at her about is mute because Rachel wouldn't give a damn regardless of who it was. Mark is also so-called buff but not confrontational in the least.
As far as her v.s. Johnny/Kenny....countless women have done that. That doesn't make her stand out as someone to be "feared". Hell Susie has had some tiffs with them.
As far as the Portland shit i'm not getting into that discussion, as you & others have shown that yall will pull anything out of the crevices of your ******** to "prove" that Nia lost lmao all the backtracking & new fighting rules made up on the spot does not erase that fact that nobody really got the upper hand, but if anything it leans toward Nia having it. The fact that it's still being brought up almost 2 years later shows how much it still gets under people's skin, why I don't know.
do you know what backtracking means? you're confusing "backtracking" with repeating myself. I'm repeating myself because you dont seem to undersatnd the most basic concepts so im trying to figure out what way i can break it down for you into simpler terms.
yeah, you were talking about jenn & aneesa and for whatever reason completely puzzled by the fact that jenn was *slightly less raucous to aneesa than she was to cara maria and mandi and i explained to you why this was the case. if you consider using scientific facts as an excuse then i really have no words for you since the topic of pychotropics and chemical reactions in the brain is not something that you seem to believe in despite the fact that there is an entire field of science dedicated to the merit of it.
rachel has a meaner streak than mark. Rachel was known as a mean girl, when has a similar title ever been given to mark? on the contrary people always consider mark the NICE agreeable,politically correct guy. getting into it with rachel on duel 2 was a risk beacuse she was the strongest girl and had all the political power and could do anything she wanted basically.
susie isnt that restrained even though she might give off that impression but she has shown that she will take risks and is relatively outspoken just in more passie aggerssive way. furthermore, her fights with johnny are almost always the result of johnnys initiations and susie's defending of herself. there is a difference between going after somebody and being the initiator rather than the reciprocator. in jenns fights with johnny, she was the former. it wasnt just a matter of defending herself because she had nothing to lose situation the same way it was for susie
like punching a wall at point blank range and not hitting it, the fact that you're fixated on who won the fight between nia and averey just goes to show that the point is being missed again. who cares about who won the fight? who said anything about that? that has nothing to do with the prediction of behavior of these jenn, averey, nia, laurel, tina, etc. the point here is that nia is more self-aware and less bold than you think she is and whether or not averey gave her a red nose doesnt make a difference in that diagnosis. nia acts brash on twitter but when it comes to meat space she turns into a fly on the wall
All the excuses in the world & so much backtracking.
For one, you don't get the privilege to tell me what matters & what doesn't. I was talking about Jenn/Aneesa & had not said anything about Rachel up until that point. The whole point is I don't give a good golly **** what happened with Jenn & Rachel because 1) I wasn't talking about Rachel & 2) As long as i've been seeing Rachel i've always known that she wasn't confrontational & very stoic, period so whatever Jenn *****ed at her about is mute because Rachel wouldn't give a damn regardless of who it was. Mark is also so-called buff but not confrontational in the least.
As far as her v.s. Johnny/Kenny....countless women have done that. That doesn't make her stand out as someone to be "feared". Hell Susie has had some tiffs with them.
As far as the Portland shit i'm not getting into that discussion, as you & others have shown that yall will pull anything out of the crevices of your ******** to "prove" that Nia lost lmao all the backtracking & new fighting rules made up on the spot does not erase that fact that nobody really got the upper hand, but if anything it leans toward Nia having it. The fact that it's still being brought up almost 2 years later shows how much it still gets under people's skin, why I don't know.
do you know what backtracking means? you're confusing "backtracking" with repeating myself. I'm repeating myself because you dont seem to undersatnd the most basic concepts so im trying to figure out what way i can break it down for you into simpler terms.
yeah, you were talking about jenn & aneesa and for whatever reason completely puzzled by the fact that jenn was *slightly less raucous to aneesa than she was to cara maria and mandi and i explained to you why this was the case. if you consider using scientific facts as an excuse then i really have no words for you since the topic of pychotropics and chemical reactions in the brain is not something that you seem to believe in despite the fact that there is an entire field of science dedicated to the merit of it.
rachel has a meaner streak than mark. Rachel was known as a mean girl, when has a similar title ever been given to mark? on the contrary people always consider mark the NICE agreeable,politically correct guy. getting into it with rachel on duel 2 was a risk beacuse she was the strongest girl and had all the political power and could do anything she wanted basically.
susie isnt that restrained even though she might give off that impression but she has shown that she will take risks and is relatively outspoken just in more passie aggerssive way. furthermore, her fights with johnny are almost always the result of johnnys initiations and susie's defending of herself. there is a difference between going after somebody and being the initiator rather than the reciprocator. in jenns fights with johnny, she was the former. it wasnt just a matter of defending herself because she had nothing to lose situation the same way it was for susie
like punching a wall at point blank range and not hitting it, the fact that you're fixated on who won the fight between nia and averey just goes to show that the point is being missed again. who cares about who won the fight? who said anything about that? that has nothing to do with the prediction of behavior of these jenn, averey, nia, laurel, tina, etc. the point here is that nia is more self-aware and less bold than you think she is and whether or not averey gave her a red nose doesnt make a difference in that diagnosis. nia acts brash on twitter but when it comes to meat space she turns into a fly on the wall
I know Jenn didn't like Kenny and Johnny for a while but when did she fight with Johnny on the show?
Who the hell even brought Nia into the Jenn discussion in the first place?
lol first it was a contest bwetween laurel and jenn and then for whatever reason nia was brought in as a utility to somehow diminish the strength of laurel's personality to prove that she's somehow not a bad *** beacuse she didnt violently beat nia to a bloody pulp when they stood next to each other.
All the excuses in the world & so much backtracking.
For one, you don't get the privilege to tell me what matters & what doesn't. I was talking about Jenn/Aneesa & had not said anything about Rachel up until that point. The whole point is I don't give a good golly **** what happened with Jenn & Rachel because 1) I wasn't talking about Rachel & 2) As long as i've been seeing Rachel i've always known that she wasn't confrontational & very stoic, period so whatever Jenn *****ed at her about is mute because Rachel wouldn't give a damn regardless of who it was. Mark is also so-called buff but not confrontational in the least.
As far as her v.s. Johnny/Kenny....countless women have done that. That doesn't make her stand out ***omeone to be "feared". Hell Susie has had some tiffs with them.
As far as the Portland shit i'm not getting into that discussion, as you & others have shown that yall will pull anything out of the crevices of your ******** to "prove" that Nia lost lmao all the backtracking & new fighting rules made up on the spot does not erase that fact that nobody really got the upper hand, but if anything it leans toward Nia having it. The fact that it's still being brought up almost 2 years later shows how much it still gets under people's skin, why I don't know.
do you know what backtracking means? you're confusing "backtracking" with repeating myself. I'm repeating myself because you dont seem to undersatnd the most basic concepts so im trying to figure out what way i can break it down for you into simpler terms.
yeah, you were talking about jenn & aneesa and for whatever reason completely puzzled by the fact that jenn w***lightly less raucous to aneesa than she was to cara maria and mandi and i explained to you why this was the case. if you consider using scientific facts as an excuse then i really have no words for you since the topic of pychotropics and chemical reactions in the brain is not something that you seem to believe in despite the fact that there is an entire field of science dedicated to the merit of it.
rachel has a meaner streak than mark. Rachel was known as a mean girl, when has a similar title ever been given to mark? on the contrary people always consider mark the NICE agreeable,politically correct guy. getting into it with rachel on duel 2 was a risk beacuse she was the strongest girl and had all the political power and could do anything she wanted basically.
susie isnt that restrained even though she might give off that impression but she h***hown that she will take risks and is relatively outspoken just in more p***ie aggerssive way. furthermore, her fights with johnny are almost always the result of johnnys initiations and susie's defending of herself. there is a difference between going after somebody and being the initiator rather than the reciprocator. in jenns fights with johnny, she was the former. it wasnt just a matter of defending herself because she had nothing to lose situation the same way it was for susie
like punching a wall at point blank range and not hitting it, the fact that you're fixated on who won the fight between nia and averey just goes to show that the point is being missed again. who cares about who won the fight? who said anything about that? that has nothing to do with the prediction of behavior of these jenn, averey, nia, laurel, tina, etc. the point here is that nia is more self-aware and less bold than you think she is and whether or not averey gave her a red nose doesnt make a difference in that diagnosis. nia acts brash on twitter but when it comes to meat space she turns into a fly on the wall
All of this to say nothing lmao
You keep saying i'm "missing the point" but there was never a point to be proven. Jenn is not tough, Laurel is not tough & Nia has you completely frazzled & bothered. What IS the point to be made? YOU brought alcohol, brain chemistry & all the fluff bullshit into the conversation trying to convince me that Jenn is still a big bad *** lol she could be high/drunk off her *** & she STILL would know who to try & who not to. Like I said she had the chance to settle it with Aneesa & she went for tiny Diem instead & still got her *** handed to her lol
I've been watching the challenges since the first Gauntlet. Rachel has always been non-confrontational & I do not have anything else to say on this, as you keep trying to make Rachel into something she has never been.
Susie....
As far as anything Nia YOU & your ********* for her brought her back up, responding to something I briefly said about her last night, now you're trying to flip as if i'm the one who was fixated on it lol you typed all that to not say SHIT & prove no point other than you being Nia's biggest fan.
Yay! I might be late to this Jenn bashing thing, but I'm excited. I think Jenn is a sexy momma, but she's obnoxious as hell. She's nothing but a punk who knows how to choose her fights. She's overly aggressive to passive and submissive girls like Cara and Mandi, but doesn't display as much anger when dealing with other girls like Laurel and Aneesa. You can clearly see from all her altercations, she was physically abusive to Cara and Mandi who weren't going to fight back at all, but not once did she get phsyically confrotational to Annessa and Laurel. Yeah, she may have mouthed them off, but she never became overtly aggressive. Like I always though, Jenn is a bully and a punk. She chooses her fights when she feels she has someone to have her back. She's not stupid, but she isn't some confident chick people think she is. She has a napoleon complex that causes her to bark as loud as she can to everyone so she can feel compitent. She is a decent competitor, but her social game is what helped her out the most. From the very few eliminations she's been in, she's lost to almost all of them. She's a small tough chick, who was born in a rough neighbor, sure, but doesn't mean she has this consitant need to validate herself and her ego by trying to put down another person. I also thing she gets mouthy in reunion shows in order to get attention, but then again, all these kids want attention. In regards to Laurel, i agree with the afermentioned comment; Laurel is impulsive but not stupid. Her being cival and courteous to Nia is by no means acting fake to her. Laurel is just quick to react when she feels attacked or wronged. I think she has a sharp tongue, but there are far more poisoneous cast members that can put Laurel in her place. We should make the list of the best/sharpest tongues their were on challenge history.
All the excuses in the world & so much backtracking.
For one, you don't get the privilege to tell me what matters & what doesn't. I was talking about Jenn/Aneesa & had not said anything about Rachel up until that point. The whole point is I don't give a good golly **** what happened with Jenn & Rachel because 1) I wasn't talking about Rachel & 2) As long as i've been seeing Rachel i've always known that she wasn't confrontational & very stoic, period so whatever Jenn *****ed at her about is mute because Rachel wouldn't give a damn regardless of who it was. Mark is also so-called buff but not confrontational in the least.
As far as her v.s. Johnny/Kenny....countless women have done that. That doesn't make her stand out ***omeone to be "feared". Hell Susie has had some tiffs with them.
As far as the Portland shit i'm not getting into that discussion, as you & others have shown that yall will pull anything out of the crevices of your ******** to "prove" that Nia lost lmao all the backtracking & new fighting rules made up on the spot does not erase that fact that nobody really got the upper hand, but if anything it leans toward Nia having it. The fact that it's still being brought up almost 2 years later shows how much it still gets under people's skin, why I don't know.
do you know what backtracking means? you're confusing "backtracking" with repeating myself. I'm repeating myself because you dont seem to undersatnd the most basic concepts so im trying to figure out what way i can break it down for you into simpler terms.
yeah, you were talking about jenn & aneesa and for whatever reason completely puzzled by the fact that jenn w***lightly less raucous to aneesa than she was to cara maria and mandi and i explained to you why this was the case. if you consider using scientific facts as an excuse then i really have no words for you since the topic of pychotropics and chemical reactions in the brain is not something that you seem to believe in despite the fact that there is an entire field of science dedicated to the merit of it.
rachel has a meaner streak than mark. Rachel was known as a mean girl, when has a similar title ever been given to mark? on the contrary people always consider mark the NICE agreeable,politically correct guy. getting into it with rachel on duel 2 was a risk beacuse she was the strongest girl and had all the political power and could do anything she wanted basically.
susie isnt that restrained even though she might give off that impression but she h***hown that she will take risks and is relatively outspoken just in more p***ie aggerssive way. furthermore, her fights with johnny are almost always the result of johnnys initiations and susie's defending of herself. there is a difference between going after somebody and being the initiator rather than the reciprocator. in jenns fights with johnny, she was the former. it wasnt just a matter of defending herself because she had nothing to lose situation the same way it was for susie
like punching a wall at point blank range and not hitting it, the fact that you're fixated on who won the fight between nia and averey just goes to show that the point is being missed again. who cares about who won the fight? who said anything about that? that has nothing to do with the prediction of behavior of these jenn, averey, nia, laurel, tina, etc. the point here is that nia is more self-aware and less bold than you think she is and whether or not averey gave her a red nose doesnt make a difference in that diagnosis. nia acts brash on twitter but when it comes to meat space she turns into a fly on the wall
All of this to say nothing lmao
You keep saying i'm "missing the point" but there was never a point to be proven. Jenn is not tough, Laurel is not tough & Nia has you completely frazzled & bothered. What IS the point to be made? YOU brought alcohol, brain chemistry & all the fluff bullshit into the conversation trying to convince me that Jenn is still a big bad *** lol she could be high/drunk off her *** & she STILL would know who to try & who not to. Like I said she had the chance to settle it with Aneesa & she went for tiny Diem instead & still got her *** handed to her lol
I've been watching the challenges since the first Gauntlet. Rachel has always been non-confrontational & I do not have to say anything on this further, as you keep trying to make Rachel into something she has never been.
Susie....
As far as anything Nia YOU & your ********* for her brought her back up, responding to something I briefly said about her last night, now you're trying to flip as if i'm the one who was fixated on it lol you typed all that to not say SHIT & prove no point other than you being Nia's biggest fan.
yeah okay, basic logic and organizatio of an argument clearly arent your strengt so i'll stop now by virtue of futility(yours).
All the excuses in the world & so much backtracking.
For one, you don't get the privilege to tell me what matters & what doesn't. I was talking about Jenn/Aneesa & had not said anything about Rachel up until that point. The whole point is I don't give a good golly **** what happened with Jenn & Rachel because 1) I wasn't talking about Rachel & 2) As long as i've been seeing Rachel i've always known that she wasn't confrontational & very stoic, period so whatever Jenn *****ed at her about is mute because Rachel wouldn't give a damn regardless of who it was. Mark is also so-called buff but not confrontational in the least.
As far as her v.s. Johnny/Kenny....countless women have done that. That doesn't make her stand out as someone to be "feared". Hell Susie has had some tiffs with them.
As far as the Portland shit i'm not getting into that discussion, as you & others have shown that yall will pull anything out of the crevices of your ******** to "prove" that Nia lost lmao all the backtracking & new fighting rules made up on the spot does not erase that fact that nobody really got the upper hand, but if anything it leans toward Nia having it. The fact that it's still being brought up almost 2 years later shows how much it still gets under people's skin, why I don't know.
do you know what backtracking means? you're confusing "backtracking" with repeating myself. I'm repeating myself because you dont seem to undersatnd the most basic concepts so im trying to figure out what way i can break it down for you into simpler terms.
yeah, you were talking about jenn & aneesa and for whatever reason completely puzzled by the fact that jenn was *slightly less raucous to aneesa than she was to cara maria and mandi and i explained to you why this was the case. if you consider using scientific facts as an excuse then i really have no words for you since the topic of pychotropics and chemical reactions in the brain is not something that you seem to believe in despite the fact that there is an entire field of science dedicated to the merit of it.
rachel has a meaner streak than mark. Rachel was known as a mean girl, when has a similar title ever been given to mark? on the contrary people always consider mark the NICE agreeable,politically correct guy. getting into it with rachel on duel 2 was a risk beacuse she was the strongest girl and had all the political power and could do anything she wanted basically.
susie isnt that restrained even though she might give off that impression but she has shown that she will take risks and is relatively outspoken just in more passie aggerssive way. furthermore, her fights with johnny are almost always the result of johnnys initiations and susie's defending of herself. there is a difference between going after somebody and being the initiator rather than the reciprocator. in jenns fights with johnny, she was the former. it wasnt just a matter of defending herself because she had nothing to lose situation the same way it was for susie
like punching a wall at point blank range and not hitting it, the fact that you're fixated on who won the fight between nia and averey just goes to show that the point is being missed again. who cares about who won the fight? who said anything about that? that has nothing to do with the prediction of behavior of these jenn, averey, nia, laurel, tina, etc. the point here is that nia is more self-aware and less bold than you think she is and whether or not averey gave her a red nose doesnt make a difference in that diagnosis. nia acts brash on twitter but when it comes to meat space she turns into a fly on the wall
I know Jenn didn't like Kenny and Johnny for a while but when did she fight with Johnny on the show?
adam K brought it up on his blog at the end of rivals and basically reiterated that jenn and johnny are now on the same side because johnny would rather have jenn on his side than against. i think kenny said it on the BOTE premiere thing too. not sure exactly which show they fought on but CT, Derrick, Kenny, adam have all implied at one point or another that shes quick to anger and when she starts acting like a rabid dog she gets really bad. i dont know exactly which show but i think its safe to assume confrontation between the two has happened before simply based on the amount of shows they have been on the strange, erratic dynamic of their relationship
All the excuses in the world & so much backtracking.
For one, you don't get the privilege to tell me what matters & what doesn't. I was talking about Jenn/Aneesa & had not said anything about Rachel up until that point. The whole point is I don't give a good golly **** what happened with Jenn & Rachel because 1) I wasn't talking about Rachel & 2) As long as i've been seeing Rachel i've always known that she wasn't confrontational & very stoic, period so whatever Jenn *****ed at her about is mute because Rachel wouldn't give a damn regardless of who it was. Mark is also so-called buff but not confrontational in the least.
As far as her v.s. Johnny/Kenny....countless women have done that. That doesn't make her stand out ***omeone to be "feared". Hell Susie has had some tiffs with them.
As far as the Portland shit i'm not getting into that discussion, as you & others have shown that yall will pull anything out of the crevices of your ******** to "prove" that Nia lost lmao all the backtracking & new fighting rules made up on the spot does not erase that fact that nobody really got the upper hand, but if anything it leans toward Nia having it. The fact that it's still being brought up almost 2 years later shows how much it still gets under people's skin, why I don't know.
do you know what backtracking means? you're confusing "backtracking" with repeating myself. I'm repeating myself because you dont seem to undersatnd the most basic concepts so im trying to figure out what way i can break it down for you into simpler terms.
yeah, you were talking about jenn & aneesa and for whatever reason completely puzzled by the fact that jenn w***lightly less raucous to aneesa than she was to cara maria and mandi and i explained to you why this was the case. if you consider using scientific facts as an excuse then i really have no words for you since the topic of pychotropics and chemical reactions in the brain is not something that you seem to believe in despite the fact that there is an entire field of science dedicated to the merit of it.
rachel has a meaner streak than mark. Rachel was known as a mean girl, when has a similar title ever been given to mark? on the contrary people always consider mark the NICE agreeable,politically correct guy. getting into it with rachel on duel 2 was a risk beacuse she was the strongest girl and had all the political power and could do anything she wanted basically.
susie isnt that restrained even though she might give off that impression but she h***hown that she will take risks and is relatively outspoken just in more p***ie aggerssive way. furthermore, her fights with johnny are almost always the result of johnnys initiations and susie's defending of herself. there is a difference between going after somebody and being the initiator rather than the reciprocator. in jenns fights with johnny, she was the former. it wasnt just a matter of defending herself because she had nothing to lose situation the same way it was for susie
like punching a wall at point blank range and not hitting it, the fact that you're fixated on who won the fight between nia and averey just goes to show that the point is being missed again. who cares about who won the fight? who said anything about that? that has nothing to do with the prediction of behavior of these jenn, averey, nia, laurel, tina, etc. the point here is that nia is more self-aware and less bold than you think she is and whether or not averey gave her a red nose doesnt make a difference in that diagnosis. nia acts brash on twitter but when it comes to meat space she turns into a fly on the wall
All of this to say nothing lmao
You keep saying i'm "missing the point" but there was never a point to be proven. Jenn is not tough, Laurel is not tough & Nia has you completely frazzled & bothered. What IS the point to be made? YOU brought alcohol, brain chemistry & all the fluff bullshit into the conversation trying to convince me that Jenn is still a big bad *** lol she could be high/drunk off her *** & she STILL would know who to try & who not to. Like I said she had the chance to settle it with Aneesa & she went for tiny Diem instead & still got her *** handed to her lol
I've been watching the challenges since the first Gauntlet. Rachel has always been non-confrontational & I do not have to say anything on this further, as you keep trying to make Rachel into something she has never been.
Susie....
As far as anything Nia YOU & your ********* for her brought her back up, responding to something I briefly said about her last night, now you're trying to flip as if i'm the one who was fixated on it lol you typed all that to not say SHIT & prove no point other than you being Nia's biggest fan.
yeah okay, basic logic and organizatio of an argument clearly arent your strengt so i'll stop now by virtue of futility(yours).
Nah I think it's more of you really didn't have much to say so you brought irrelevant opinions & obsessions up to try to prove an invisible point lol so it's good that you stop now.
there was much to say, thats why i write a few paragraphs filled with explanations. i think you're just lacking in a few IQ points(frank sweey nod though i cant stand the fool)
there was much to say, thats why i write a few paragraphs filled with explanations. i think you're just lacking in a few IQ points(frank sweey nod though i cant stand the fool)
Yeah you broke it down as simply as you could. Insightful posts as always!
there was much to say, thats why i write a few paragraphs filled with explanations. i think you're just lacking in a few IQ points(frank sweey nod though i cant stand the fool)
Yeah you broke it down as simply as you could. Insightful posts as always!
Free Agents should've had a better cast considering they could've gotten anyone for that challenge and it wasn't a limiting theme.
I would like to see Ashley(San Diego 2) Laura, and Mckenzie back on the challenge..Just to have some fairly new faces on the show.
Free Agents should've had an elite cast...they clearly dropped the ball on the casting for that challenge
I have always been pretty indifferent to Wes
I remember seeing on Ashley K.'s twitter (randomly looking through / stalking lol) that she was done with them but there is always the chance that she'll come back. Also wouldn't mind the other two.
Free Agents should've had a better cast considering they could've gotten anyone for that challenge and it wasn't a limiting theme.
I would like to see Ashley(San Diego 2) Laura, and Mckenzie back on the challenge..Just to have some fairly new faces on the show.
Free Agents should've had an elite cast...they clearly dropped the ball on the casting for that challenge
I have always been pretty indifferent to Wes
I remember seeing on Ashley K.'s twitter (randomly looking through / stalking lol) that she was done with them but there is always the chance that she'll come back. Also wouldn't mind the other two.
Didn't know she stated she was done with them at one point..but good that she's open to being back.
And Now that Knight is dead and Jemmye is done with challenges I wonder if they'll try to get some of the other New Orleans peeps to come on and represent the season..probably not but it's a thought.
Free Agents should've had a better cast considering they could've gotten anyone for that challenge and it wasn't a limiting theme.
I would like to see Ashley(San Diego 2) Laura, and Mckenzie back on the challenge..Just to have some fairly new faces on the show.
Free Agents should've had an elite cast...they clearly dropped the ball on the casting for that challenge
I have always been pretty indifferent to Wes
I remember seeing on Ashley K.'s twitter (randomly looking through / stalking lol) that she was done with them but there is always the chance that she'll come back. Also wouldn't mind the other two.
Didn't know she stated she was done with them at one point..but good that she's open to being back.
And Now that Knight is dead and Jemmye is done with challenges I wonder if they'll try to get some of the other New Orleans peeps to come on and represent the season..probably not but it's a thought.
Looking at their track record of completely ignoring entire seasons, I wouldn't be surprised if NO 2 gets the same treatment. It took them like 3-4 seasons after their RW season to actually appear on the show.
Free Agents should've had a better cast considering they could've gotten anyone for that challenge and it wasn't a limiting theme.
I would like to see Ashley(San Diego 2) Laura, and Mckenzie back on the challenge..Just to have some fairly new faces on the show.
Free Agents should've had an elite cast...they clearly dropped the ball on the casting for that challenge
I have always been pretty indifferent to Wes
I remember seeing on Ashley K.'s twitter (randomly looking through / stalking lol) that she was done with them but there is always the chance that she'll come back. Also wouldn't mind the other two.
Didn't know she stated she was done with them at one point..but good that she's open to being back.
And Now that Knight is dead and Jemmye is done with challenges I wonder if they'll try to get some of the other New Orleans peeps to come on and represent the season..probably not but it's a thought.
Looking at their track record of completely ignoring entire seasons, I wouldn't be surprised if NO 2 gets the same treatment. It took them like 3-4 seasons after their RW season to actually appear on the show.
Well it's not for a lack of trying. They tried to get Ryan/Preston for Rivals but one of them backed out. And I think Knight/Jemmye tried to get on Exes by trying to pull a Jamie but didn't work. So they just had bad luck..
But honestly I too think they're just going to ignore that cast. Plus I think most of the people from that cast has moved on anyways.
Didn't know she stated she was done with them at one point..but good that she's open to being back.
And Now that Knight is dead and Jemmye is done with challenges I wonder if they'll try to get some of the other New Orleans peeps to come on and represent the season..probably not but it's a thought.
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Looking at their track record of completely ignoring entire seasons, I wouldn't be surprised if NO 2 gets the same treatment. It took them like 3-4 seasons after their RW season to actually appear on the show.
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Well it's not for a lack of trying. They tried to get Ryan/Preston for Rivals but one of them backed out. And I think Knight/Jemmye tried to get on Exes by trying to pull a Jamie but didn't work. So they just had bad luck..
But honestly I too think they're just going to ignore that cast. Plus I think most of the people from that cast has moved on anyways.
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I doubt they will ask anyone else from the nola 2 cast considering bmp doesn't like the rest of them. They told Knight/Jemmye saying if they weren't on their season, then they probably would have cancelled it because they made the season. I don't see anyone else getting cast, maybe Preston again.
a nia recap, must be a credible source.
and ASKING someone to square up isnt the same as actually initiating the first attack. one quick little "it can be a two for one combo" is hardly courageous considering one of them was a man that already demonstrated he wasnt going to lay hands on a transexual. averey hit nia FIRST. averey also happens to be a petite, feminine girl built like someone with two XX chromosomes unlike nia. the risk was all on averey for initiating the fight with a transexual that she knew would fight back. do you understand the relationship between risks and actions here?
doesnt matter which one you wanted to see and which one i have been talking about since jenn has been upfront about her anger to BOTH of them.
rachel isnt confrontational in the hormonal act like a psycho bonobo chimp sense but shes bold enough in a composed way that demonstrates confidence. shes still considered an alpha female and she still ran that game and she's still buff and way bigger than jenn, all factors and powers that she yields which make her a "risk" to **** off, yet jenn did it.
you also dont address the fact that she usde to fight with johnny and kenny to the point where even they found it exasperating and frustrating to keep the animosity going on.
clearly jenn is a ***** with little self awareness of her actions and restraint. her track record of fighting with people bigger than she is on some level(political, physical) demonstrates this
she was drunk when she went at mandi and cara. alcohol lowers your hesitations and that's its univesral ffect for everybody. jenn is confrontational when she is sober and she's even more confrontational when you give her a substance that specifically manipulates chemical reactions in your brain for that purpose. not sure why thats a surprise. she would still probably be majorly *****y if you gave her a bowl of pot to smoke
All the excuses in the world & so much backtracking.
For one, you don't get the privilege to tell me what matters & what doesn't. I was talking about Jenn/Aneesa & had not said anything about Rachel up until that point. The whole point is I don't give a good golly **** what happened with Jenn & Rachel because 1) I wasn't talking about Rachel & 2) As long as i've been seeing Rachel i've always known that she wasn't confrontational & very stoic, period so whatever Jenn *****ed at her about is moot because Rachel wouldn't give a damn regardless of who it was. Mark is also so-called buff but not confrontational in the least.
As far as her v.s. Johnny/Kenny....countless women have done that. That doesn't make her stand out as someone to be "feared". Hell Susie has had some tiffs with them.
As far as the Portland shit i'm not getting into that discussion, as you & others have shown that yall will pull anything out of the crevices of your ******** to "prove" that Nia lost lmao all the backtracking & new fighting rules made up on the spot does not erase that fact that nobody really got the upper hand, but if anything it leans toward Nia having it. The fact that it's still being brought up almost 2 years later shows how much it still gets under people's skin, why I don't know.
Who the hell even brought Nia into the Jenn discussion in the first place?
Really? When? was some of this off-camera?
V123 I want to basically agree with everything you said but I'm also a Nia fan. Decisions decisions....
Uh, why are you referring to Nia as a transexual?
She hated both of them on the Island. Kenny was pushing Ryan so hard to take Jenn's key because he said that he couldn't stand her. I think she was pissed about the fact that he bragged about sleeping with her on Inferno 3. I think she only warmed up to him on Fresh Meat 2 because a) She's close friends with Paula and Paula and Kenny are best friends and b) her partner Noor was a big fan of Kenny's. She also said she loathed Johnny until Cutthroat.
Yay! I might be late to this Jenn bashing thing, but I'm excited. I think Jenn is a sexy momma, but she's obnoxious as hell. She's nothing but a punk who knows how to choose her fights. She's overly aggressive to passive and submissive girls like Cara and Mandi, but doesn't display as much anger when dealing with other girls like Laurel and Aneesa. You can clearly see from all her altercations, she was physically abusive to Cara and Mandi who weren't going to fight back at all, but not once did she get phsyically confrotational to Annessa and Laurel. Yeah, she may have mouthed them off, but she never became overtly aggressive. Like I always though, Jenn is a bully and a punk. She chooses her fights when she feels she has someone to have her back. She's not stupid, but she isn't some confident chick people think she is. She has a napoleon complex that causes her to bark as loud as she can to everyone so she can feel compitent. She is a decent competitor, but her social game is what helped her out the most. From the very few eliminations she's been in, she's lost to almost all of them. She's a small tough chick, who was born in a rough neighbor, sure, but doesn't mean she has this consitant need to validate herself and her ego by trying to put down another person. I also thing she gets mouthy in reunion shows in order to get attention, but then again, all these kids want attention. In regards to Laurel, i agree with the afermentioned comment; Laurel is impulsive but not stupid. Her being cival and courteous to Nia is by no means acting fake to her. Laurel is just quick to react when she feels attacked or wronged. I think she has a sharp tongue, but there are far more poisoneous cast members that can put Laurel in her place. We should make the list of the best/sharpest tongues their were on challenge history.
do you know what backtracking means? you're confusing "backtracking" with repeating myself. I'm repeating myself because you dont seem to undersatnd the most basic concepts so im trying to figure out what way i can break it down for you into simpler terms.
yeah, you were talking about jenn & aneesa and for whatever reason completely puzzled by the fact that jenn was *slightly less raucous to aneesa than she was to cara maria and mandi and i explained to you why this was the case. if you consider using scientific facts as an excuse then i really have no words for you since the topic of pychotropics and chemical reactions in the brain is not something that you seem to believe in despite the fact that there is an entire field of science dedicated to the merit of it.
rachel has a meaner streak than mark. Rachel was known as a mean girl, when has a similar title ever been given to mark? on the contrary people always consider mark the NICE agreeable,politically correct guy. getting into it with rachel on duel 2 was a risk beacuse she was the strongest girl and had all the political power and could do anything she wanted basically.
susie isnt that restrained even though she might give off that impression but she has shown that she will take risks and is relatively outspoken just in more passie aggerssive way. furthermore, her fights with johnny are almost always the result of johnnys initiations and susie's defending of herself. there is a difference between going after somebody and being the initiator rather than the reciprocator. in jenns fights with johnny, she was the former. it wasnt just a matter of defending herself because she had nothing to lose situation the same way it was for susie
like punching a wall at point blank range and not hitting it, the fact that you're fixated on who won the fight between nia and averey just goes to show that the point is being missed again. who cares about who won the fight? who said anything about that? that has nothing to do with the prediction of behavior of these jenn, averey, nia, laurel, tina, etc. the point here is that nia is more self-aware and less bold than you think she is and whether or not averey gave her a red nose doesnt make a difference in that diagnosis. nia acts brash on twitter but when it comes to meat space she turns into a fly on the wall
I know Jenn didn't like Kenny and Johnny for a while but when did she fight with Johnny on the show?
lol first it was a contest bwetween laurel and jenn and then for whatever reason nia was brought in as a utility to somehow diminish the strength of laurel's personality to prove that she's somehow not a bad *** beacuse she didnt violently beat nia to a bloody pulp when they stood next to each other.
All of this to say nothing lmao
You keep saying i'm "missing the point" but there was never a point to be proven. Jenn is not tough, Laurel is not tough & Nia has you completely frazzled & bothered. What IS the point to be made? YOU brought alcohol, brain chemistry & all the fluff bullshit into the conversation trying to convince me that Jenn is still a big bad *** lol she could be high/drunk off her *** & she STILL would know who to try & who not to. Like I said she had the chance to settle it with Aneesa & she went for tiny Diem instead & still got her *** handed to her lol
I've been watching the challenges since the first Gauntlet. Rachel has always been non-confrontational & I do not have anything else to say on this, as you keep trying to make Rachel into something she has never been.
Susie....
As far as anything Nia YOU & your ********* for her brought her back up, responding to something I briefly said about her last night, now you're trying to flip as if i'm the one who was fixated on it lol you typed all that to not say SHIT & prove no point other than you being Nia's biggest fan.
Period.
yeah okay, basic logic and organizatio of an argument clearly arent your strengt so i'll stop now by virtue of futility(yours).
Wes has been irrelevant since Rivals 1.
Free Agents should've had a better cast considering they could've gotten anyone for that challenge and it wasn't a limiting theme.
I would like to see Ashley(San Diego 2) Laura, and Mckenzie back on the challenge..Just to have some fairly new faces on the show.
adam K brought it up on his blog at the end of rivals and basically reiterated that jenn and johnny are now on the same side because johnny would rather have jenn on his side than against. i think kenny said it on the BOTE premiere thing too. not sure exactly which show they fought on but CT, Derrick, Kenny, adam have all implied at one point or another that shes quick to anger and when she starts acting like a rabid dog she gets really bad. i dont know exactly which show but i think its safe to assume confrontation between the two has happened before simply based on the amount of shows they have been on the strange, erratic dynamic of their relationship
Nah I think it's more of you really didn't have much to say so you brought irrelevant opinions & obsessions up to try to prove an invisible point lol so it's good that you stop now.
there was much to say, thats why i write a few paragraphs filled with explanations. i think you're just lacking in a few IQ points(frank sweey nod though i cant stand the fool)
Says much more about your intelligence to still believe IQ scores determine the actual intelligence of a person lmao catch up.
Yeah you broke it down as simply as you could. Insightful posts as always!
You need to stop kissing ***.
LOL Just kidding.
IN OTHER NEWS lol
Free Agents should've had an elite cast...they clearly dropped the ball on the casting for that challenge
I have always been pretty indifferent to Wes
I remember seeing on Ashley K.'s twitter (randomly looking through / stalking lol) that she was done with them but there is always the chance that she'll come back. Also wouldn't mind the other two.
Didn't know she stated she was done with them at one point..but good that she's open to being back.
And Now that Knight is dead and Jemmye is done with challenges I wonder if they'll try to get some of the other New Orleans peeps to come on and represent the season..probably not but it's a thought.
Looking at their track record of completely ignoring entire seasons, I wouldn't be surprised if NO 2 gets the same treatment. It took them like 3-4 seasons after their RW season to actually appear on the show.
Well it's not for a lack of trying. They tried to get Ryan/Preston for Rivals but one of them backed out. And I think Knight/Jemmye tried to get on Exes by trying to pull a Jamie but didn't work. So they just had bad luck..
But honestly I too think they're just going to ignore that cast. Plus I think most of the people from that cast has moved on anyways.
Jemmye is done?
She said so on twitter.
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Didn't know she stated she was done with them at one point..but good that she's open to being back.
And Now that Knight is dead and Jemmye is done with challenges I wonder if they'll try to get some of the other New Orleans peeps to come on and represent the season..probably not but it's a thought.
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Looking at their track record of completely ignoring entire seasons, I wouldn't be surprised if NO 2 gets the same treatment. It took them like 3-4 seasons after their RW season to actually appear on the show.
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Well it's not for a lack of trying. They tried to get Ryan/Preston for Rivals but one of them backed out. And I think Knight/Jemmye tried to get on Exes by trying to pull a Jamie but didn't work. So they just had bad luck..
But honestly I too think they're just going to ignore that cast. Plus I think most of the people from that cast has moved on anyways.
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I doubt they will ask anyone else from the nola 2 cast considering bmp doesn't like the rest of them. They told Knight/Jemmye saying if they weren't on their season, then they probably would have cancelled it because they made the season. I don't see anyone else getting cast, maybe Preston again.
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