So I just got here tonight after not reading this stream for a day and a half - and I just saw the US Weekly article before I got here. I may be in the minority, but I feel like it makes CT look like an ***. And actually - I feel like the collection of all the media makes him look less important to her than I think he was. So I tend to think that there was clearly some divide between her friends (or family) and him. But what do I know. Not trying to bring negativity to this stream, just giving my gut impression. And again - debating it will get us all nowhere really.
But I have to wonder why - a week and a half later US Weekly is being fed information enough to make it "very clear" that they were not together. It's almost as if someone wants the public to not believe what we are getting from CT's friend.
The one thing I know - is that both US and People are liasoning with Alicia - as she is quoted in both articles (+ friends) and in the ENews segment says in the interview that all the media is working together on this ... and by together , they mean through her.
Re: Mama, if you look at a picture of the DIEM Strongboard that her friends made her - there is one where you can see it up close. You can see two big things: (1) no mention, signature, or even picture of CT at all on it and (2) in her ex's message - he also calls her mama, and also says he'll love her forever and always.
Its all a bit weird, and more than anything - I hope that Diem really really knew and felt at peace with how she felt when she p***ed. While I hope it was that great love story , I would prefer to hear that she was really at peace with how she felt about whomever when she p***ed.
can you please screenshot of her ex's message? I would like to see that....
Odd indeed.
look up Ashlie Kennedy on FB, and you can read a portion of his message to her..... other places have the bigger thing, but that's an easy place to see what I was talking about.
You will also notice - that Johnny Bananas put that quote about no fear of the future on the board too... before she died and he tweeted it.
I thought the undertone of the usmagazine article was very nice unlike the people.com which just came off nasty...
I think it's possible to see them both either way, but I question the timing of the article which blatently says Diem laughed at his proposal. To me (and this is just my own gut) it felt like someone purposefully put this story in the media to refute his post that included a ring. But again, just my opinion.
Also, I can see where you're coming from with CT. I think it's natural to question what role he played and to what extent and if he's pandering to the public. The hopeless romantic in me and hoping Diem was happy at the end, wishes they were together and thriving and on the precipice of an engagement, but I also wouldn't want CT to be using that to sharpen his image.
You'd have to be blind to notice that he really wasn't apart of the goings-on at the end, or was that an intentional choice made by both Diem and CT. Am I correct in saying that her ex was a pallbearer and CT not? Her ex's FB page is plastered with pics of her as well.
Also, is CT the one who released the pic of him holding onto her hand while in the hospital? Interestingly enough, Diem did not repost that pic.
Intentional decision to keep their life private or something else? Maybe we'll never know and perhaps that's the way it should be- but I can't help questioning it.
First time posting on here I think the reason Diem's death has affected me so much is how fast it's been. In early August she said she was Cancer free & by mid August she's battling for her life. It was all so sudden & came out of no where. If she never went into remission last year we would have all been more prepared when she passed on the 14th. I truly loved going on Instagram & Twitter & seeing how dynamic & fun her post were. She was so quiet about her relationship with CT, that it was so fun to see a photo of them together that a fan snapped of them. My take on the People, US Weekly, & the lack of pics on the memorial video is that CT was not a favorite among her friends & family, but they tolerated him for Diem. I think that's why he was pushed in the background. As much as I love Diem, she was very open about a lot of things, but obviously her relationships & her age was private to her. Even her last boyfriend, she never posted anything about him. I'm hoping that once CT goes back on social media, he post some pics & video of them together from the past year. I hate reading on all these other sites say that he was an opportunist & trying to stay relevant. He loved her so much & it was obvious. I just wish we could have seen them planning a wedding & actually getting married (what an amazing MTV special, that would have been)!
Also, I can see where you're coming from with CT. I think it's natural to question what role he played and to what extent and if he's pandering to the public. The hopeless romantic in me and hoping Diem was happy at the end, wishes they were together and thriving and on the precipice of an engagement, but I also wouldn't want CT to be using that to sharpen his image.
You'd have to be blind to notice that he really wasn't apart of the goings-on at the end, or was that an intentional choice made by both Diem and CT. Am I correct in saying that her ex was a pallbearer and CT not? Her ex's FB page is plastered with pics of her as well.
Also, is CT the one who released the pic of him holding onto her hand while in the hospital? Interestingly enough, Diem did not repost that pic.
Intentional decision to keep their life private or something else? Maybe we'll never know and perhaps that's the way it should be- but I can't help questioning it.
No she did not repost it but, she did favorite other people's repost of the pic a few times.
Also people keep commenting on CT not being a Pallbearer but, We have a family friend that lost his fiance and he was not a Pallbearer. He was too distraught I guess. He jsat in the pews with the resy of us; crying.
I wonder how well CT handled the funeral? Maybe he knew that he wouuld be too emotional to be a pallbearer. I really dont see the significance?
First time posting on here I think the reason Diem's death has affected me so much is how fast it's been. In early August she said she was Cancer free & by mid August she's battling for her life. It was all so sudden & came out of no where. If she never went into remission last year we would have all been more prepared when she passed on the 14th.
First post, glad you decided to share. I agree with this part of what you said. This is the same reason I've had trouble dealing with it as well. It just didn't make any sense to me. All I can think is that just because the testing after her second diagnosis said she was cancer free, it doesn't mean she actually was. They just thought she was based on what those particular tests came back showing. Obviously the medical community needs more accurate detection methods and maybe as time goes on and more advances are made, this will happen.
Edit to my post: I was incorrect in saying that she was cancer free after treatment for the second diagnosis. Diem's cancer was stable at that time.
Also, I can see where you're coming from with CT. I think it's natural to question what role he played and to what extent and if he's pandering to the public. The hopeless romantic in me and hoping Diem was happy at the end, wishes they were together and thriving and on the precipice of an engagement, but I also wouldn't want CT to be using that to sharpen his image.
You'd have to be blind to notice that he really wasn't apart of the goings-on at the end, or was that an intentional choice made by both Diem and CT. Am I correct in saying that her ex was a pallbearer and CT not? Her ex's FB page is plastered with pics of her as well.
Also, is CT the one who released the pic of him holding onto her hand while in the hospital? Interestingly enough, Diem did not repost that pic.
Intentional decision to keep their life private or something else? Maybe we'll never know and perhaps that's the way it should be- but I can't help questioning it.
No she did not repost it but, she did favorite other people's repost of the pic a few times.
Also people keep commenting on CT not being a Pallbearer but, We have a family friend that lost his fiance and he was not a Pallbearer. He was too distraught I guess. He jsat in the pews with the resy of us; crying.
I wonder how well CT handled the funeral? Maybe he knew that he wouuld be too emotional to be a pallbearer. I really dont see the significance?
Yes if I were in CT's shoes, I wouldn't necessarly be able to handle being a pallbearer either, would be too emotional to do it. It makes sense to me that he wouldn't be.
Note that Alicia is not the one who told the proposal story. If you read the article, it says "a source close to Brown" and "a friend." I'm taking this story with a grain of salt.
Me too. I feel like too much is being shared about Diem and people need to just stop talking to the press for awhile, let the family grieve.
It's just a question. What's the significance of any of this to us, really? We're all pondering certain aspects and you don't seem to agree with mine. To each their own.
You're right, basically she was given a "you're cancer-free as much as we can tell" diagnosis and she commented that she had to roll with it and believe in what they said.
Was the cancer really gone or did it linger and hide behind the scar tissue that was there? Overall, beyond the questions of everything else, I come to this forum because I can't believe she's gone. I can't say it enough. I can't believe she's gone.
She said the second time she had ovarian cancer when they thought it was gone that they couldn't declare her cancer free...because she had such a rare cancer that could not be detected with blood tests and to see if she had cancer you had to go in and explore and see if there was anything there.
Hopefully her doctors learned something from her...so they can better treat the cancer she had.
Yes I hope other people can be helped and something can be learned from this. I hadn't remembered Diem saying she had such a rare form of cancer that could not be detected through blood tests....thanks for sharing that. I guess in that situation I would be wondering, so okay if you can't always detect it through a blood test, what other methods can we possibly look at to try to detect it then. I'm sure she asked those questions.
You're right, basically she was given a "you're cancer-free as much as we can tell" diagnosis and she commented that she had to roll with it and believe in what they said.
Was the cancer really gone or did it linger and hide behind the scar tissue that was there? Overall, beyond the questions of everything else, I come to this forum because I can't believe she's gone. I can't say it enough. I can't believe she's gone.
The cancer wasnt gone, she never say she was cancer free the second time, she said that the doctors told her that the cancer was stable, if you want more info about her second cancer and how everything went, you should go to people and read her blogs and recaps from rivals 2.
You're right, basically she was given a "you're cancer-free as much as we can tell" diagnosis and she commented that she had to roll with it and believe in what they said.
Was the cancer really gone or did it linger and hide behind the scar tissue that was there? Overall, beyond the questions of everything else, I come to this forum because I can't believe she's gone. I can't say it enough. I can't believe she's gone.
Me either, hard to believe she's gone. I think another reason that has caused me to struggle dealing with this is because I followed Diem on social media so closely and she was posting all the time to people and so she felt so accessible to us. In a way I think it might have been less of a shock to me if the news on Diem before she passed was not as forthcoming, but I feel like the fact that I did follow her journey closely, read all of her blogs and tweets....it made it more difficult to process when she passed, whereas if there had been much more minimal information shared online, it might not have hit me so hard. But it seems like there was so much information coming out that we were literally getting the latest updates on her condition like every couple days online and when that happens and your reading along as all of it comes out, it's not hard to get overly emotionally invested in something. Having said that, I know that Diem had her reasons for the steady stream of information that was released, it wasn't just so people could know more about her life for the sake of knowing about her....there was a greater reason, it was to help other people who are also going through cancer or had a loved one go through it, so the information is out there for them to read online. So I know there was a greater purpose, even though I wonder in hindsight if I should have been keeping such close track.
I guess I misspoke. These are the quotes I was alluding to:
This is my cancer-free version! I am not living in the fear of "What if they didn't get it all?" or "How do they know if there is no test I can do?"
So although there is no actual test to give me that gives me the 100 percent cancer-free assurance that I had back in 2006, I feel I can celebrate remission just the same. I have done every treatment the doctor has ordered, done every test, every scan and with these clear liver results, I have faith that my treatment worked.
I'm confident in my "cancer-free version" even without a test that exactly proves so. I am celebrating this moment and am ecstatic to say I'm in remission! I may have a few treatments here and there but I'm done with the fear ... I beat the sucker once again!
You're right, basically she was given a "you're cancer-free as much as we can tell" diagnosis and she commented that she had to roll with it and believe in what they said.
Was the cancer really gone or did it linger and hide behind the scar tissue that was there? Overall, beyond the questions of everything else, I come to this forum because I can't believe she's gone. I can't say it enough. I can't believe she's gone.
The cancer wasnt gone, she never say she was cancer free the second time, she said that the doctors told her that the cancer was stable, if you want more info about her second cancer and how everything went, you should go to people and read her blogs and recaps from rivals 2.
Your right, the cancer was never gone, it was stable. Not sure what I was thinking. But I guess I see her hair start to grow back after her second diagnosis, I see her looking so healthy, I see her taking tests all along and going for her checkups and everything looks fine and then all of a sudden the cancer is back and stronger than ever and it seemed out of nowhere. I guess the question should be is this, how does a cancer that was stable get so quickly out of control that it wouldn't be detected by doctors sooner....that it would be detected so late as to only give her 3.5 months from the time she knew about it, end of July to mid November.
To be clear, I'm not looking for answers from Diem's family or anyone close to Diem, but I'm just saying, it would be interesting to find an article online or speak with a doctor who knows something about certain types of cancers and how this scenario could be the case. I know Diem is not the only one who has had "come out of nowhere" news like this....this has probably happened to many others as well in a similar situation, but still, I'd like to know more about how the cancer hides and what the doctors have learned from these types of situations to be able to detect hard to see cancers.
I guess I misspoke. These are the quotes I was alluding to:
This is my cancer-free version! I am not living in the fear of "What if they didn't get it all?" or "How do they know if there is no test I can do?"
So although there is no actual test to give me that gives me the 100 percent cancer-free assurance that I had back in 2006, I feel I can celebrate remission just the same. I have done every treatment the doctor has ordered, done every test, every scan and with these clear liver results, I have faith that my treatment worked.
I'm confident in my "cancer-free version" even without a test that exactly proves so. I am celebrating this moment and am ecstatic to say I'm in remission! I may have a few treatments here and there but I'm done with the fear ... I beat the sucker once again!
Awww man, she had such hope and such a positive attitude that she had truly beaten it. *** cancer!!!
And see, that's what gets me too. Did the docs not feel it was in her best interest to get CT scans because of all the scar tissue that she had on the area? But if she did have CT scans, it would have at least shown a portion of the area of the colon (where I believe it spread to) and it could have detected any lymphnode involvement or pockets of air/fluid that would indicate the prescence or probablity of a tumor.
It was also apparent that she lost some weight, beginning in January. Is that why she went to the doc? She was losing weight but had no pain? I just don't understand... and did her team not make it clear to her that her diet should be immaculate? It wasn't until January of 2013 did she really focus on her diet and it sounded like she began a new health regimen all on her own, after reading a book.
So many questions. I just wish she was still here and these diseases didn't affect the millions that they do.
Those rags are horrific. First People report "The truth about their relationship" without disclosing any source and quoting Alicia. Now US Weekly claim that her ex-boyfriend made one final attempt at reconciliation by proposing. Again without disclosing sources and quoting Alicia.
Wake up. Those two have been together for quite a while not trying to reconcile!
From his own words "Our plan to be together forever hasn't changed..." My first language isn't english but it doesn't take an idiot to understand what he meant by "Our". Not a one way decision.
What a shame that those same rags that supported Diem's fight are now dragging her and CT through the mud. Good thing he announced that he was out for a while. I hope he stays far away from social media for a long time. He doesn't owe anything to anyone. My heart is so heavy for him. He didn't need nor deserved those additionnal turmoils.
I believe (and hope) that many anwsers will be giving by Diem herself in Diem's special and will put all that incredible mess to rest.
If I could add, my only other comment would be an interpretation of mine and I know it might not be a popular one. When he wrote "So don't worry mama, I'm not afraid." I think he'll try to proceed with her egglets. Why else call her mama? Diem was so adamant about having a family. She knew she had a partner willing to go the distance with her in a precarious situation. I know many won't agree but ultimetaly, it is his life, his and her family's decision.
scuse the rant. Just really really pissed off.
I firmly believe it was their plan. Unfortunately only him and her truly know what their plan was and there are going to be CT haters out there that think he is full of crap. I was actually not expecting all these BS articles and have been very annoyed. Some of these people posting the nasty comments at the bottom of the articles, are just casual viewers who are only thinking back and remembering him yelling at her that last season they were together, hooking up with Anastasia in Rivals 2, etc. Their fans are the ones watching all the clips and interviews and spottings of them over and over which is why we all know they were in love and the casual viewer is clueless.
As for the Mama comment, I just think it was a pet name for her .... like Babe, Baby, etc.
On a side note - Diem wrote these articles while Rivals 2 was airing. Since she is awefully quiet when it comes to CT and her love life in general, I like these articles because it is her words and she lets us in a little.
can you please screenshot of her ex's message? I would like to see that....
Odd indeed.
look up Ashlie Kennedy on FB, and you can read a portion of his message to her..... other places have the bigger thing, but that's an easy place to see what I was talking about.
You will also notice - that Johnny Bananas put that quote about no fear of the future on the board too... before she died and he tweeted it.
Where's Banana's message on the on the board?
That board honestly confuses me, because from the messages I can read, they seem like goodbyes--but people are saying she didn't know she was going to die and was praying to live up until the moment she passed. I know the conflicting reports don't really matter, but the board gave me some peace because I thought she had had at least a few days/hours to come to some kind of terms with it.
I wonder if Diem considered her public output (Instagram, Twitter, etc.) in more of a "lasting legacy" context than a play-by-play of her true sentiments. That sounds like I am trying to take away from her strength and her fight, which I absolutely 100% am not, but I would find it hard to believe that she didn't know know the reality of her progression and decline. But look at the record that now exists for others who might be suffering from the same: unadulterated faith in the future, absolutely unrelenting in her fight for the life she loved. It is so beautiful. It is also heartbreaking to read in hindsight her sheer optimism for the future, and to know that a "five-year" or "ten-year" plan didn't even come close.
My head is spinning after this latest article about Chris' proposal (which I found about as tacky as the People story). There's a good chance we will absolutely never know what their status was, or why, on November 14, 2014. I've resolved to stop wondering. Diem didn't share much about her relationship with Chris in the past year, but she sure did leave one heck of a record of the true love, friendship, and devotion of the AMAZING WOMEN in her life, which was no doubt a reflection of the friend that Diem was to them. Julie, Alicia, Megan, and all the rest who shared the last three months with her... I could only hope to be half the friend that any one of them was to Diem, and to have such a circle of friends in return.
Somebody on Twitter suggested Bananas was selling the story to US because it mentioned gopro and he has been pluggin it on twitter. I would like to think their friendship meant a hell of a lot more than that smfh.
Somebody on Twitter suggested Bananas was selling the story to US because it mentioned gopro and he has been pluggin it on twitter. I would like to think their friendship meant a hell of a lot more than that smfh.
Regarding the eggs: enough is enough here. Diem was NEVER small scope and the idea of her wanting CT to use them is ridiculous. I can imagine NO situation in which she would say "please create babies with a surrogate and raise them motherless" as opposed to "use them for research and possibly help millions of other people" or "give them to a woman who cannot have children due to cancer". Diem was open to the idea of adoption, which means she was WELL aware of the fact that DNA does not a parent make.
Regarding her 3rd round of cancer; after the 2nd round, they would never be able to pick it up normally due to scar tissue. She was receiving regular CT scans. But as she said in an interview, it hid behind her uterus and scar tissue. Let it be people. It is what it is.
I am the same age as Diem, and currently struggling with some issues, and when the going gets tough, I remind myself everyday that if she could fight cancer that hard and LIVE that hard until the very end, I can make the best of my situation and enjoy life to its fullest, and remind myself of how blessed I am. So let's all drop the petty s**t and learn to live life with no regrets.
and I could care less if her name was diem, Danielle, don, Darrell and if she was 34 or 74. She was a role model and a hero to many, and the rest of this stuff just doesn't mafter.
What's been bothering me still about this US Mag Article (aside from the obvious) is this quote: "Diem knew she didn't have much longer to live," the insider tells Us, "and she didn't want to be engaged under those circumstances."
Now, I know that she'd been told there was no more treatment. And I know that she'd been only given a limited time to live - but this goes against everything else that she and her family has been saying about her last few weeks. That they lied to her about the hospice room, that she visualized her future, that tweet that giving up wasn't an option.
In a way, it comforted me to know that she never really thought she was going to die. But now this "insider" is saying she did. And that really breaks my heart for her.
Well. I think that Diem was going to remain optimisitc regardless, but I am sure that her doctors told her the outlook. I also believe her family and friends knew the truth but, they wanted to remain positive because Diem was choosing to remain positive.
It all makes sense to me...Her family and friends gathering for drinks a couple days prior to her passing, the DiemStrong Board, Someone spotting CT crying earlier that week, Alicia's tweet thanking everyone and saying in was all in God's hands now, and now this. I think she knew, she was just hopeful.
I was hoping that she did know because for me it is more devestating to think that she never came to terms with it and was not at peace when she passed. It would hurt me more to know that she was still looking for answers and still pleading with doctors and was stressed in her train of thought. I hope she passed knowing she did everything possible, and I hope she wasnt afraid or angry, I just want to know that she was at peace.
So I just got here tonight after not reading this stream for a day and a half - and I just saw the US Weekly article before I got here. I may be in the minority, but I feel like it makes CT look like an ***. And actually - I feel like the collection of all the media makes him look less important to her than I think he was. So I tend to think that there was clearly some divide between her friends (or family) and him. But what do I know. Not trying to bring negativity to this stream, just giving my gut impression. And again - debating it will get us all nowhere really.
But I have to wonder why - a week and a half later US Weekly is being fed information enough to make it "very clear" that they were not together. It's almost as if someone wants the public to not believe what we are getting from CT's friend.
The one thing I know - is that both US and People are liasoning with Alicia - as she is quoted in both articles (+ friends) and in the ENews segment says in the interview that all the media is working together on this ... and by together , they mean through her.
Re: Mama, if you look at a picture of the DIEM Strongboard that her friends made her - there is one where you can see it up close. You can see two big things: (1) no mention, signature, or even picture of CT at all on it and (2) in her ex's message - he also calls her mama, and also says he'll love her forever and always.
Its all a bit weird, and more than anything - I hope that Diem really really knew and felt at peace with how she felt when she p***ed. While I hope it was that great love story , I would prefer to hear that she was really at peace with how she felt about whomever when she p***ed.
I thought the undertone of the usmagazine article was very nice unlike the people.com which just came off nasty...
can you please screenshot of her ex's message? I would like to see that....
Odd indeed.
look up Ashlie Kennedy on FB, and you can read a portion of his message to her..... other places have the bigger thing, but that's an easy place to see what I was talking about.
You will also notice - that Johnny Bananas put that quote about no fear of the future on the board too... before she died and he tweeted it.
I think it's possible to see them both either way, but I question the timing of the article which blatently says Diem laughed at his proposal. To me (and this is just my own gut) it felt like someone purposefully put this story in the media to refute his post that included a ring. But again, just my opinion.
Really? Hmmmm.
Also, I can see where you're coming from with CT. I think it's natural to question what role he played and to what extent and if he's pandering to the public.
The hopeless romantic in me and hoping Diem was happy at the end, wishes they were together and thriving and on the precipice of an engagement, but I also wouldn't want CT to be using that to sharpen his image.
You'd have to be blind to notice that he really wasn't apart of the goings-on at the end, or was that an intentional choice made by both Diem and CT. Am I correct in saying that her ex was a pallbearer and CT not? Her ex's FB page is plastered with pics of her as well.
Also, is CT the one who released the pic of him holding onto her hand while in the hospital? Interestingly enough, Diem did not repost that pic.
Intentional decision to keep their life private or something else? Maybe we'll never know and perhaps that's the way it should be- but I can't help questioning it.
First time posting on here
I think the reason Diem's death has affected me so much is how fast it's been. In early August she said she was Cancer free & by mid August she's battling for her life. It was all so sudden & came out of no where. If she never went into remission last year we would have all been more prepared when she passed on the 14th. I truly loved going on Instagram & Twitter & seeing how dynamic & fun her post were. She was so quiet about her relationship with CT, that it was so fun to see a photo of them together that a fan snapped of them. My take on the People, US Weekly, & the lack of pics on the memorial video is that CT was not a favorite among her friends & family, but they tolerated him for Diem. I think that's why he was pushed in the background. As much as I love Diem, she was very open about a lot of things, but obviously her relationships & her age was private to her. Even her last boyfriend, she never posted anything about him. I'm hoping that once CT goes back on social media, he post some pics & video of them together from the past year. I hate reading on all these other sites say that he was an opportunist & trying to stay relevant. He loved her so much & it was obvious. I just wish we could have seen them planning a wedding & actually getting married (what an amazing MTV special, that would have been)!
No she did not repost it but, she did favorite other people's repost of the pic a few times.
Also people keep commenting on CT not being a Pallbearer but, We have a family friend that lost his fiance and he was not a Pallbearer. He was too distraught I guess. He jsat in the pews with the resy of us; crying.
I wonder how well CT handled the funeral? Maybe he knew that he wouuld be too emotional to be a pallbearer. I really dont see the significance?
First post, glad you decided to share. I agree with this part of what you said. This is the same reason I've had trouble dealing with it as well. It just didn't make any sense to me. All I can think is that just because the testing after her second diagnosis said she was cancer free, it doesn't mean she actually was. They just thought she was based on what those particular tests came back showing. Obviously the medical community needs more accurate detection methods and maybe as time goes on and more advances are made, this will happen.
Edit to my post: I was incorrect in saying that she was cancer free after treatment for the second diagnosis. Diem's cancer was stable at that time.
Yes if I were in CT's shoes, I wouldn't necessarly be able to handle being a pallbearer either, would be too emotional to do it. It makes sense to me that he wouldn't be.
Me too. I feel like too much is being shared about Diem and people need to just stop talking to the press for awhile, let the family grieve.
It's just a question. What's the significance of any of this to us, really? We're all pondering certain aspects and you don't seem to agree with mine. To each their own.
You're right, basically she was given a "you're cancer-free as much as we can tell" diagnosis and she commented that she had to roll with it and believe in what they said.
Was the cancer really gone or did it linger and hide behind the scar tissue that was there? Overall, beyond the questions of everything else, I come to this forum because I can't believe she's gone. I can't say it enough. I can't believe she's gone.
Yes I hope other people can be helped and something can be learned from this. I hadn't remembered Diem saying she had such a rare form of cancer that could not be detected through blood tests....thanks for sharing that. I guess in that situation I would be wondering, so okay if you can't always detect it through a blood test, what other methods can we possibly look at to try to detect it then. I'm sure she asked those questions.
The cancer wasnt gone, she never say she was cancer free the second time, she said that the doctors told her that the cancer was stable, if you want more info about her second cancer and how everything went, you should go to people and read her blogs and recaps from rivals 2.
Me either, hard to believe she's gone. I think another reason that has caused me to struggle dealing with this is because I followed Diem on social media so closely and she was posting all the time to people and so she felt so accessible to us. In a way I think it might have been less of a shock to me if the news on Diem before she passed was not as forthcoming, but I feel like the fact that I did follow her journey closely, read all of her blogs and tweets....it made it more difficult to process when she passed, whereas if there had been much more minimal information shared online, it might not have hit me so hard. But it seems like there was so much information coming out that we were literally getting the latest updates on her condition like every couple days online and when that happens and your reading along as all of it comes out, it's not hard to get overly emotionally invested in something. Having said that, I know that Diem had her reasons for the steady stream of information that was released, it wasn't just so people could know more about her life for the sake of knowing about her....there was a greater reason, it was to help other people who are also going through cancer or had a loved one go through it, so the information is out there for them to read online. So I know there was a greater purpose, even though I wonder in hindsight if I should have been keeping such close track.
I guess I misspoke. These are the quotes I was alluding to:
This is my cancer-free version! I am not living in the fear of "What if they didn't get it all?" or "How do they know if there is no test I can do?"
So although there is no actual test to give me that gives me the 100 percent cancer-free assurance that I had back in 2006, I feel I can celebrate remission just the same. I have done every treatment the doctor has ordered, done every test, every scan and with these clear liver results, I have faith that my treatment worked.
I'm confident in my "cancer-free version" even without a test that exactly proves so. I am celebrating this moment and am ecstatic to say I'm in remission! I may have a few treatments here and there but I'm done with the fear ... I beat the sucker once again!
Your right, the cancer was never gone, it was stable. Not sure what I was thinking. But I guess I see her hair start to grow back after her second diagnosis, I see her looking so healthy, I see her taking tests all along and going for her checkups and everything looks fine and then all of a sudden the cancer is back and stronger than ever and it seemed out of nowhere. I guess the question should be is this, how does a cancer that was stable get so quickly out of control that it wouldn't be detected by doctors sooner....that it would be detected so late as to only give her 3.5 months from the time she knew about it, end of July to mid November.
To be clear, I'm not looking for answers from Diem's family or anyone close to Diem, but I'm just saying, it would be interesting to find an article online or speak with a doctor who knows something about certain types of cancers and how this scenario could be the case. I know Diem is not the only one who has had "come out of nowhere" news like this....this has probably happened to many others as well in a similar situation, but still, I'd like to know more about how the cancer hides and what the doctors have learned from these types of situations to be able to detect hard to see cancers.
Unfortunately some missed the point. I never said Diem's death wasn't sad or tragic. Words matter.
At some point we can all have an honest conversation...apparently we need more time.
Awww man, she had such hope and such a positive attitude that she had truly beaten it. *** cancer!!!
And see, that's what gets me too. Did the docs not feel it was in her best interest to get CT scans because of all the scar tissue that she had on the area? But if she did have CT scans, it would have at least shown a portion of the area of the colon (where I believe it spread to) and it could have detected any lymphnode involvement or pockets of air/fluid that would indicate the prescence or probablity of a tumor.
It was also apparent that she lost some weight, beginning in January. Is that why she went to the doc? She was losing weight but had no pain? I just don't understand...
and did her team not make it clear to her that her diet should be immaculate? It wasn't until January of 2013 did she really focus on her diet and it sounded like she began a new health regimen all on her own, after reading a book.
So many questions. I just wish she was still here and these diseases didn't affect the millions that they do.
I firmly believe it was their plan. Unfortunately only him and her truly know what their plan was and there are going to be CT haters out there that think he is full of crap. I was actually not expecting all these BS articles and have been very annoyed. Some of these people posting the nasty comments at the bottom of the articles, are just casual viewers who are only thinking back and remembering him yelling at her that last season they were together, hooking up with Anastasia in Rivals 2, etc. Their fans are the ones watching all the clips and interviews and spottings of them over and over which is why we all know they were in love and the casual viewer is clueless.
As for the Mama comment, I just think it was a pet name for her .... like Babe, Baby, etc.
On a side note - Diem wrote these articles while Rivals 2 was airing. Since she is awefully quiet when it comes to CT and her love life in general, I like these articles because it is her words and she lets us in a little.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20716269,00.html
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20729514,00.html
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20729514,00.html
Where's Banana's message on the on the board?
That board honestly confuses me, because from the messages I can read, they seem like goodbyes--but people are saying she didn't know she was going to die and was praying to live up until the moment she passed. I know the conflicting reports don't really matter, but the board gave me some peace because I thought she had had at least a few days/hours to come to some kind of terms with it.
I wonder if Diem considered her public output (Instagram, Twitter, etc.) in more of a "lasting legacy" context than a play-by-play of her true sentiments. That sounds like I am trying to take away from her strength and her fight, which I absolutely 100% am not, but I would find it hard to believe that she didn't know know the reality of her progression and decline. But look at the record that now exists for others who might be suffering from the same: unadulterated faith in the future, absolutely unrelenting in her fight for the life she loved. It is so beautiful. It is also heartbreaking to read in hindsight her sheer optimism for the future, and to know that a "five-year" or "ten-year" plan didn't even come close.
My head is spinning after this latest article about Chris' proposal (which I found about as tacky as the People story). There's a good chance we will absolutely never know what their status was, or why, on November 14, 2014. I've resolved to stop wondering. Diem didn't share much about her relationship with Chris in the past year, but she sure did leave one heck of a record of the true love, friendship, and devotion of the AMAZING WOMEN in her life, which was no doubt a reflection of the friend that Diem was to them. Julie, Alicia, Megan, and all the rest who shared the last three months with her... I could only hope to be half the friend that any one of them was to Diem, and to have such a circle of friends in return.
Somebody on Twitter suggested Bananas was selling the story to US because it mentioned gopro and he has been pluggin it on twitter. I would like to think their friendship meant a hell of a lot more than that smfh.
Somebody on Twitter is a moron.
Regarding the eggs: enough is enough here. Diem was NEVER small scope and the idea of her wanting CT to use them is ridiculous. I can imagine NO situation in which she would say "please create babies with a surrogate and raise them motherless" as opposed to "use them for research and possibly help millions of other people" or "give them to a woman who cannot have children due to cancer". Diem was open to the idea of adoption, which means she was WELL aware of the fact that DNA does not a parent make.
Regarding her 3rd round of cancer; after the 2nd round, they would never be able to pick it up normally due to scar tissue. She was receiving regular CT scans. But as she said in an interview, it hid behind her uterus and scar tissue. Let it be people. It is what it is.
I am the same age as Diem, and currently struggling with some issues, and when the going gets tough, I remind myself everyday that if she could fight cancer that hard and LIVE that hard until the very end, I can make the best of my situation and enjoy life to its fullest, and remind myself of how blessed I am. So let's all drop the petty s**t and learn to live life with no regrets.
and I could care less if her name was diem, Danielle, don, Darrell and if she was 34 or 74. She was a role model and a hero to many, and the rest of this stuff just doesn't mafter.
Jamie chung changed her profile pic to one of her & diem. Subtle, but speaks volumes.
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What's been bothering me still about this US Mag Article (aside from the obvious) is this quote: "Diem knew she didn't have much longer to live," the insider tells Us, "and she didn't want to be engaged under those circumstances."
Now, I know that she'd been told there was no more treatment. And I know that she'd been only given a limited time to live - but this goes against everything else that she and her family has been saying about her last few weeks. That they lied to her about the hospice room, that she visualized her future, that tweet that giving up wasn't an option.
In a way, it comforted me to know that she never really thought she was going to die. But now this "insider" is saying she did. And that really breaks my heart for her.
Well. I think that Diem was going to remain optimisitc regardless, but I am sure that her doctors told her the outlook. I also believe her family and friends knew the truth but, they wanted to remain positive because Diem was choosing to remain positive.
It all makes sense to me...Her family and friends gathering for drinks a couple days prior to her passing, the DiemStrong Board, Someone spotting CT crying earlier that week, Alicia's tweet thanking everyone and saying in was all in God's hands now, and now this. I think she knew, she was just hopeful.
I was hoping that she did know because for me it is more devestating to think that she never came to terms with it and was not at peace when she passed. It would hurt me more to know that she was still looking for answers and still pleading with doctors and was stressed in her train of thought. I hope she passed knowing she did everything possible, and I hope she wasnt afraid or angry, I just want to know that she was at peace.
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