I'm in the minority that loves AYTO being on The Challenge. I don't give a **** if they're not from the Real World or not. It's the same freakin channel, living in a house for a couple of months, and trying to achieve a goal. RW would be that person's individual personal goal, and AYTO is love & money. It's not that big of a deal, it's literally sister tv shows. I just think people are stubborn to changes, fans hate changes, and lets say if AYTO continued to be renewed and they brung a few on every season of the challenge, they'd get used to it and complain about something else.
P.s. all those other dumb MTV shows like Cat Fish shouldn't even be brought up because they have nothing to do with this. Those shows won't ever be considered because the format doesn't follow a group of people for a couple of months like RW & AYTO does.
I remember a ton of people were stubborn when we found out AYTO people were on this season, and they didn't even watch that show. They went back and watched AYTO season 1 and realized it's a good show and they stopped complaining. It really isn't that big of a deal ****, just watch the show and you'll like it. It really isn't even that different from Road Rules besides the fact that they don't live in an RV and travel around.
sigh.
I actually have watched AYTO, it has a stupid concept to it all but it's better to watch it when you're bored and have nothing better to do.
And Catfish might be different, but when I bring it up, its also on the same channel as RW/the Challenge and AYTO.
I honestly believe every reason that is in support of this change is pulling at straws. I see no value of having them on the Challenge, it wasn't their show in the first place, REGARDLESS of the Challenge having lost the RW/RR title, and even just a few of them on the show have clearly rubbed people the wrong way.
Anything can be said, I don't really care at this point. Pull at straws all you want, come up with the best reason on the planet for #antiAYTOonTheChallenge and let us all know, but I doubt quite a number of people will change their mind by watching the show.
I think this is not really a problem here. CBS (as an example) has used "cross-casting" people on multiple shows and the original show wasn't their show in the first place. Look at Big Brother, Survivor, The Amazing Race.
All three shows have used multiple people that were originally casted for the other.
Rachel Reily and Brandon Villegas were part of Big Brother , but CBS used them on The Amazing Race (Both shows are filmed by two different companies)
Rob & Amber Mariano were originally part of Survivor, but CBS used them on The Amazing Race (Again both filmed by two different companies)
Hayden Moss was originally part of Big Brother, but CBS used him on Survivor (I think you know what comes here)
This season: Nadiya/Natalie Anderson were originally part of The Amazing Race, but CBS used them on Survivor (You might get it)
Notice: This is even a far bigger example if you compare the fanbase of all three shows with the fanbase of The Challenge. Sure, people complain, but CBS still use it.
Cross-Casting is just another instrument to cast people, it's used a lot in the reality shows business in general. To think, that just because a show was not theirs in the first place, is basically a pretty weak argument here to stop casting people from different shows.
CBS owns all three shows and MTV owns both (The Challenge and AYTO). They can cast whoever they want.
Sure cross-casting has it's limit, for example, they have to have the same format like people competing for money (the formats of AYTO and The Challenge are the same) which is why Catfish will never be a part of The Challenge as Catfish is not a competition show.
Technically, the show "The Challenge" was made by cross-casting, BMP/MTV took people from different reality shows (Real World and Road Rules) and created another reality show called "Real World/Road Rules Challenge". What would happend if production heard of the people complaining....we wouldn't even have this discussion.
The only contras I got from people that are against this are
1) Using people from RW and RR that never got casted first, before using AYTO people
2) Use people (Veterans & Virgins) that are still interested in doing one, before using AYTO people
3) It's not their show .... Speaking of this, don't you think it would creat drama if the originals from the Challenge would go against the ones from AYTO? It's a great instrument to create drama and apparently it did happen on the next season.
I'm not fully against AYTO, but also not fully for a crossing (yet) since I don't really think Jamie convinced us quite yet.
Someone here had a pretty good point, like MTV is probably using the AYTO people to promote the show AYTO in general, but he thinks it's a good idea from a "fresh new air" standpoint since there aren't anymore progressing storylines that hooks the people, the last real, new storylines were Jordan, Frank, Zach and Knight (But that sucked rating-wise) which is why MTV/BMP had to do themes with a catchy twist and they won't stop it until there are enough people that could do a show without any specific "team" theme. If you believe spoilers then it would appear that Free Agents was a very last minute change from Exes 2 to Duel 3 to Free Agents, because they couldn't get the teams/people they wanted. Spoilers also say that BMP/MTV just does not want to cast people that were there forth/fifth/sixth choice when they were first eligible for the challenge.
He thinks that Old vs. New would be a good theme, but he expects to be a pretty weak "Veterans" cast and a pretty strong "Newbies" cast since the last times, the newbies got crushed so badly which is not what he wants.
Lol people now hardly have any individual goals for getting on RW other than really wanting to do challenges. There are a select few that do it for other reasons but most people's goal nowadays is to get on the challenges.
Which is really sad as it totally defeats the purpose of RW. The show lost all its meaning to me. I'd much rather watch AYTO people because most of them go on the show for other purposes than simply being cast on The Challenge.
You guys are making seem like everyone from season 1 was contacted lol just 4 were contacted and those people say yes...Nobody else from AYTO heard from BMP.
Yet. Nobody yet, its still early, my dear.
Well keep in mind that a lot of people were backing up and declining as soon as they figure out it was exes 2 production made it that obvious...That was the main reason they decide to look at Are you the one , but after season 2 ratings I dont see them continuing that trend or atleast with that season. I am sorry they got stuck with Laura/Trey and Sahar/Eric both of those couples on paper are snozze fest....Any couple look way more interesting than them on paper lol
Sahar and eric are a snoozefest? did you even watch back to new orleans, rose? Yes he tried to act all mack daddy with the ladies and failed hard but they were hardly snoozes. I mean Simone is cool but John John looks ridiculously lame. **** the other two.
His name is John Jacobs and I could watch him all day every day. He's hilarious.
Lol people now hardly have any individual goals for getting on RW other than really wanting to do challenges. There are a select few that do it for other reasons but most people's goal nowadays is to get on the challenges.
Which is really sad as it totally defeats the purpose of RW. The show lost all its meaning to me. I'd much rather watch AYTO people because most of them go on the show for other purposes than simply being cast on The Challenge.
They go on ayto to make money, how is.that any better?
****!!! Haha GD! I'm really not trying to convince people!! However!!!!!!!! Having ayto on a challenge would be combining my 2 great loves!!! And you would still get to keep what you love!!! So I think it's a great idea to make some people happy with seeing who they love on TV with other people they love to watch!! At the same time!! Interacting!!
I'm in the minority that loves AYTO being on The Challenge. I don't give a **** if they're not from the Real World or not. It's the same freakin channel, living in a house for a couple of months, and trying to achieve a goal. RW would be that person's individual personal goal, and AYTO is love & money. It's not that big of a deal, it's literally sister tv shows. I just think people are stubborn to changes, fans hate changes, and lets say if AYTO continued to be renewed and they brung a few on every season of the challenge, they'd get used to it and complain about something else.
P.s. all those other dumb MTV shows like Cat Fish shouldn't even be brought up because they have nothing to do with this. Those shows won't ever be considered because the format doesn't follow a group of people for a couple of months like RW & AYTO does.
I remember a ton of people were stubborn when we found out AYTO people were on this season, and they didn't even watch that show. They went back and watched AYTO season 1 and realized it's a good show and they stopped complaining. It really isn't that big of a deal ****, just watch the show and you'll like it. It really isn't even that different from Road Rules besides the fact that they don't live in an RV and travel around.
sigh.
I actually have watched AYTO, it has a stupid concept to it all but it's better to watch it when you're bored and have nothing better to do.
And Catfish might be different, but when I bring it up, its also on the same channel as RW/the Challenge and AYTO.
I honestly believe every reason that is in support of this change is pulling at straws. I see no value of having them on the Challenge, it wasn't their show in the first place, REGARDLESS of the Challenge having lost the RW/RR title, and even just a few of them on the show have clearly rubbed people the wrong way.
Anything can be said, I don't really care at this point. Pull at straws all you want, come up with the best reason on the planet for #antiAYTOonTheChallenge and let us all know, but I doubt quite a number of people will change their mind by watching the show.
I think this is not really a problem here. CBS (as an example) has used "cross-casting" people on multiple shows and the original show wasn't their show in the first place. Look at Big Brother, Survivor, The Amazing Race.
All three shows have used multiple people that were originally casted for the other.
Rachel Reily and Brandon Villegas were part of Big Brother , but CBS used them on The Amazing Race (Both shows are filmed by two different companies)
Rob & Amber Mariano were originally part of Survivor, but CBS used them on The Amazing Race (Again both filmed by two different companies)
Hayden Moss was originally part of Big Brother, but CBS used him on Survivor (I think you know what comes here)
This season: Nadiya/Natalie Anderson were originally part of The Amazing Race, but CBS used them on Survivor (You might get it)
Notice: This is even a far bigger example if you compare the fanbase of all three shows with the fanbase of The Challenge. Sure, people complain, but CBS still use it.
Cross-Casting is just another instrument to cast people, it's used a lot in the reality shows business in general. To think, that just because a show was not theirs in the first place, is basically a pretty weak argument here to stop casting people from different shows.
CBS owns all three shows and MTV owns both (The Challenge and AYTO). They can cast whoever they want.
Sure cross-casting has it's limit, for example, they have to have the same format like people competing for money (the formats of AYTO and The Challenge are the same) which is why Catfish will never be a part of The Challenge as Catfish is not a competition show.
Technically, the show "The Challenge" was made by cross-casting, BMP/MTV took people from different reality shows (Real World and Road Rules) and created another reality show called "Real World/Road Rules Challenge". What would happend if production heard of the people complaining....we wouldn't even have this discussion.
The only contras I got from people that are against this are
1) Using people from RW and RR that never got casted first, before using AYTO people
2) Use people (Veterans & Virgins) that are still interested in doing one, before using AYTO people
3) It's not their show .... Speaking of this, don't you think it would creat drama if the originals from the Challenge would go against the ones from AYTO? It's a great instrument to create drama and apparently it did happen on the next season.
I'm not fully against AYTO, but also not fully for a crossing (yet) since I don't really think Jamie convinced us quite yet.
Someone here had a pretty good point, like MTV is probably using the AYTO people to promote the show AYTO in general, but he thinks it's a good idea from a "fresh new air" standpoint since there aren't anymore progressing storylines that hooks the people, the last real, new storylines were Jordan, Frank, Zach and Knight (But that sucked rating-wise) which is why MTV/BMP had to do themes with a catchy twist and they won't stop it until there are enough people that could do a show without any specific "team" theme. If you believe spoilers then it would appear that Free Agents was a very last minute change from Exes 2 to Duel 3 to Free Agents, because they couldn't get the teams/people they wanted. Spoilers also say that BMP/MTV just does not want to cast people that were there forth/fifth/sixth choice when they were first eligible for the challenge.
He thinks that Old vs. New would be a good theme, but he expects to be a pretty weak "Veterans" cast and a pretty strong "Newbies" cast since the last times, the newbies got crushed so badly which is not what he wants.
What Survivor/Big Brother/Amazing Race did is not the same thing. Those shows are not spin-offs that were meant for certain people from certain shows they can cast anyone they want. The challenge was specifically made for The Real World and Road Rules(I don't care if it's called The Challnege doesn't mean any ******* from any show can come on) so to cast people that have nothing to do with this franchise just dillutes it and makes no sense at all. Especially when they got people from those two shows that they can use.
I'm in the minority that loves AYTO being on The Challenge. I don't give a **** if they're not from the Real World or not. It's the same freakin channel, living in a house for a couple of months, and trying to achieve a goal. RW would be that person's individual personal goal, and AYTO is love & money. It's not that big of a deal, it's literally sister tv shows. I just think people are stubborn to changes, fans hate changes, and lets say if AYTO continued to be renewed and they brung a few on every season of the challenge, they'd get used to it and complain about something else.
P.s. all those other dumb MTV shows like Cat Fish shouldn't even be brought up because they have nothing to do with this. Those shows won't ever be considered because the format doesn't follow a group of people for a couple of months like RW & AYTO does.
I remember a ton of people were stubborn when we found out AYTO people were on this season, and they didn't even watch that show. They went back and watched AYTO season 1 and realized it's a good show and they stopped complaining. It really isn't that big of a deal ****, just watch the show and you'll like it. It really isn't even that different from Road Rules besides the fact that they don't live in an RV and travel around.
sigh.
I actually have watched AYTO, it has a stupid concept to it all but it's better to watch it when you're bored and have nothing better to do.
And Catfish might be different, but when I bring it up, its also on the same channel as RW/the Challenge and AYTO.
I honestly believe every reason that is in support of this change is pulling at straws. I see no value of having them on the Challenge, it wasn't their show in the first place, REGARDLESS of the Challenge having lost the RW/RR title, and even just a few of them on the show have clearly rubbed people the wrong way.
Anything can be said, I don't really care at this point. Pull at straws all you want, come up with the best reason on the planet for #antiAYTOonTheChallenge and let us all know, but I doubt quite a number of people will change their mind by watching the show.
I think this is not really a problem here. CBS (as an example) has used "cross-casting" people on multiple shows and the original show wasn't their show in the first place. Look at Big Brother, Survivor, The Amazing Race.
All three shows have used multiple people that were originally casted for the other.
Rachel Reily and Brandon Villegas were part of Big Brother , but CBS used them on The Amazing Race (Both shows are filmed by two different companies)
Rob & Amber Mariano were originally part of Survivor, but CBS used them on The Amazing Race (Again both filmed by two different companies)
Hayden Moss was originally part of Big Brother, but CBS used him on Survivor (I think you know what comes here)
This season: Nadiya/Natalie Anderson were originally part of The Amazing Race, but CBS used them on Survivor (You might get it)
Notice: This is even a far bigger example if you compare the fanbase of all three shows with the fanbase of The Challenge. Sure, people complain, but CBS still use it.
Cross-Casting is just another instrument to cast people, it's used a lot in the reality shows business in general. To think, that just because a show was not theirs in the first place, is basically a pretty weak argument here to stop casting people from different shows.
CBS owns all three shows and MTV owns both (The Challenge and AYTO). They can cast whoever they want.
Sure cross-casting has it's limit, for example, they have to have the same format like people competing for money (the formats of AYTO and The Challenge are the same) which is why Catfish will never be a part of The Challenge as Catfish is not a competition show.
Technically, the show "The Challenge" was made by cross-casting, BMP/MTV took people from different reality shows (Real World and Road Rules) and created another reality show called "Real World/Road Rules Challenge". What would happend if production heard of the people complaining....we wouldn't even have this discussion.
The only contras I got from people that are against this are
1) Using people from RW and RR that never got casted first, before using AYTO people
2) Use people (Veterans & Virgins) that are still interested in doing one, before using AYTO people
3) It's not their show .... Speaking of this, don't you think it would creat drama if the originals from the Challenge would go against the ones from AYTO? It's a great instrument to create drama and apparently it did happen on the next season.
I'm not fully against AYTO, but also not fully for a crossing (yet) since I don't really think Jamie convinced us quite yet.
Someone here had a pretty good point, like MTV is probably using the AYTO people to promote the show AYTO in general, but he thinks it's a good idea from a "fresh new air" standpoint since there aren't anymore progressing storylines that hooks the people, the last real, new storylines wereJordan, Frank, Zach and Knight (But that sucked rating-wise) which is why MTV/BMP had to do themes with a catchy twist and they won't stop it until there are enough people that could do a show without any specific "team" theme. If you believe spoilers then it would appear that Free Agents was a very last minute change from Exes 2 to Duel 3 to Free Agents, because they couldn't get the teams/people they wanted. Spoilers also say that BMP/MTV just does not want to cast people that were there forth/fifth/sixth choice when they were first eligible for the challenge.
He thinks that Old vs. New would be a good theme, but he expects to be a pretty weak "Veterans" cast and a pretty strong "Newbies" cast since the last times, the newbies got crushed so badly which is not what he wants.
Actually thats a lie catchy formats were created before zach/Frank/Knight did their challenge debut. Thats why Rivals 1 and Exes 1 happened before their first challenge. The challenge hasnt work without a catchy format since the gauntlet 3, even though the ratings hasnt go as low as are you the one s 2. Theme challenges are going to continue because those bring ratings, not because they dont have enough people.
Are you the one? Wasnt in the plan it was just their last minute solution after the people they wanted kept declining and dropping off because of the theme.
Btw with the sad ratings are you the one its pulling I am expecting to be like camila a one time thing or both fresh meater that they casted only 7 fresh meaters from each for other challenges. In are you the one most likeley 4. Keep in mind having those 4 on this challenge cost BMP money not just apperances check since they had contract with the other production company until a year after their last episode of their ended.
I'm in the minority that loves AYTO being on The Challenge. I don't give a **** if they're not from the Real World or not. It's the same freakin channel, living in a house for a couple of months, and trying to achieve a goal. RW would be that person's individual personal goal, and AYTO is love & money. It's not that big of a deal, it's literally sister tv shows. I just think people are stubborn to changes, fans hate changes, and lets say if AYTO continued to be renewed and they brung a few on every season of the challenge, they'd get used to it and complain about something else.
P.s. all those other dumb MTV shows like Cat Fish shouldn't even be brought up because they have nothing to do with this. Those shows won't ever be considered because the format doesn't follow a group of people for a couple of months like RW & AYTO does.
I remember a ton of people were stubborn when we found out AYTO people were on this season, and they didn't even watch that show. They went back and watched AYTO season 1 and realized it's a good show and they stopped complaining. It really isn't that big of a deal ****, just watch the show and you'll like it. It really isn't even that different from Road Rules besides the fact that they don't live in an RV and travel around.
sigh.
I actually have watched AYTO, it has a stupid concept to it all but it's better to watch it when you're bored and have nothing better to do.
And Catfish might be different, but when I bring it up, its also on the same channel as RW/the Challenge and AYTO.
I honestly believe every reason that is in support of this change is pulling at straws. I see no value of having them on the Challenge, it wasn't their show in the first place, REGARDLESS of the Challenge having lost the RW/RR title, and even just a few of them on the show have clearly rubbed people the wrong way.
Anything can be said, I don't really care at this point. Pull at straws all you want, come up with the best reason on the planet for #antiAYTOonTheChallenge and let us all know, but I doubt quite a number of people will change their mind by watching the show.
I think this is not really a problem here. CBS (as an example) has used "cross-casting" people on multiple shows and the original show wasn't their show in the first place. Look at Big Brother, Survivor, The Amazing Race.
All three shows have used multiple people that were originally casted for the other.
Rachel Reily and Brandon Villegas were part of Big Brother , but CBS used them on The Amazing Race (Both shows are filmed by two different companies)
Rob & Amber Mariano were originally part of Survivor, but CBS used them on The Amazing Race (Again both filmed by two different companies)
Hayden Moss was originally part of Big Brother, but CBS used him on Survivor (I think you know what comes here)
This season: Nadiya/Natalie Anderson were originally part of The Amazing Race, but CBS used them on Survivor (You might get it)
Notice: This is even a far bigger example if you compare the fanbase of all three shows with the fanbase of The Challenge. Sure, people complain, but CBS still use it.
Cross-Casting is just another instrument to cast people, it's used a lot in the reality shows business in general. To think, that just because a show was not theirs in the first place, is basically a pretty weak argument here to stop casting people from different shows.
CBS owns all three shows and MTV owns both (The Challenge and AYTO). They can cast whoever they want.
Sure cross-casting has it's limit, for example, they have to have the same format like people competing for money (the formats of AYTO and The Challenge are the same) which is why Catfish will never be a part of The Challenge as Catfish is not a competition show.
Technically, the show "The Challenge" was made by cross-casting, BMP/MTV took people from different reality shows (Real World and Road Rules) and created another reality show called "Real World/Road Rules Challenge". What would happend if production heard of the people complaining....we wouldn't even have this discussion.
The only contras I got from people that are against this are
1) Using people from RW and RR that never got casted first, before using AYTO people
2) Use people (Veterans & Virgins) that are still interested in doing one, before using AYTO people
3) It's not their show .... Speaking of this, don't you think it would creat drama if the originals from the Challenge would go against the ones from AYTO? It's a great instrument to create drama and apparently it did happen on the next season.
I'm not fully against AYTO, but also not fully for a crossing (yet) since I don't really think Jamie convinced us quite yet.
Someone here had a pretty good point, like MTV is probably using the AYTO people to promote the show AYTO in general, but he thinks it's a good idea from a "fresh new air" standpoint since there aren't anymore progressing storylines that hooks the people, the last real, new storylines wereJordan, Frank, Zach and Knight (But that sucked rating-wise) which is why MTV/BMP had to do themes with a catchy twist and they won't stop it until there are enough people that could do a show without any specific "team" theme. If you believe spoilers then it would appear that Free Agents was a very last minute change from Exes 2 to Duel 3 to Free Agents, because they couldn't get the teams/people they wanted. Spoilers also say that BMP/MTV just does not want to cast people that were there forth/fifth/sixth choice when they were first eligible for the challenge.
He thinks that Old vs. New would be a good theme, but he expects to be a pretty weak "Veterans" cast and a pretty strong "Newbies" cast since the last times, the newbies got crushed so badly which is not what he wants.
Actually thats a lie catchy formats were created before zach/Frank/Knight did their challenge debut. Thats why Rivals 1 and Exes 1 happened before their first challenge. The challenge hasnt work without a catchy format since the gauntlet 3, even though the ratings hasnt go as low as are you the one s 2. Theme challenges are going to continue because those bring ratings, not because they dont have enough people. Are you the one? Wasnt in the plan it was just their last minute solution after the people they wanted kept declining and dropping off because of the theme. Btw with the sad ratings are you the one its pulling I am expecting to be like camila a one time thing or both fresh meater that they casted only 7 fresh meaters from each for other challenges. In are you the one most likeley 4. Keep in mind having those 4 on this challenge cost BMP money not just apperances check since they had contract with the other production company until a year after their last episode of their ended.
PinkRose do you know the main couples they wanted?
I'm in the minority that loves AYTO being on The Challenge. I don't give a **** if they're not from the Real World or not. It's the same freakin channel, living in a house for a couple of months, and trying to achieve a goal. RW would be that person's individual personal goal, and AYTO is love & money. It's not that big of a deal, it's literally sister tv shows. I just think people are stubborn to changes, fans hate changes, and lets say if AYTO continued to be renewed and they brung a few on every season of the challenge, they'd get used to it and complain about something else.
P.s. all those other dumb MTV shows like Cat Fish shouldn't even be brought up because they have nothing to do with this. Those shows won't ever be considered because the format doesn't follow a group of people for a couple of months like RW & AYTO does.
I remember a ton of people were stubborn when we found out AYTO people were on this season, and they didn't even watch that show. They went back and watched AYTO season 1 and realized it's a good show and they stopped complaining. It really isn't that big of a deal ****, just watch the show and you'll like it. It really isn't even that different from Road Rules besides the fact that they don't live in an RV and travel around.
sigh.
I actually have watched AYTO, it has a stupid concept to it all but it's better to watch it when you're bored and have nothing better to do.
And Catfish might be different, but when I bring it up, its also on the same channel as RW/the Challenge and AYTO.
I honestly believe every reason that is in support of this change is pulling at straws. I see no value of having them on the Challenge, it wasn't their show in the first place, REGARDLESS of the Challenge having lost the RW/RR title, and even just a few of them on the show have clearly rubbed people the wrong way.
Anything can be said, I don't really care at this point. Pull at straws all you want, come up with the best reason on the planet for #antiAYTOonTheChallenge and let us all know, but I doubt quite a number of people will change their mind by watching the show.
I think this is not really a problem here. CBS (as an example) has used "cross-casting" people on multiple shows and the original show wasn't their show in the first place. Look at Big Brother, Survivor, The Amazing Race.
All three shows have used multiple people that were originally casted for the other.
Rachel Reily and Brandon Villegas were part of Big Brother , but CBS used them on The Amazing Race (Both shows are filmed by two different companies)
Rob & Amber Mariano were originally part of Survivor, but CBS used them on The Amazing Race (Again both filmed by two different companies)
Hayden Moss was originally part of Big Brother, but CBS used him on Survivor (I think you know what comes here)
This season: Nadiya/Natalie Anderson were originally part of The Amazing Race, but CBS used them on Survivor (You might get it)
Notice: This is even a far bigger example if you compare the fanbase of all three shows with the fanbase of The Challenge. Sure, people complain, but CBS still use it.
Cross-Casting is just another instrument to cast people, it's used a lot in the reality shows business in general. To think, that just because a show was not theirs in the first place, is basically a pretty weak argument here to stop casting people from different shows.
CBS owns all three shows and MTV owns both (The Challenge and AYTO). They can cast whoever they want.
Sure cross-casting has it's limit, for example, they have to have the same format like people competing for money (the formats of AYTO and The Challenge are the same) which is why Catfish will never be a part of The Challenge as Catfish is not a competition show.
Technically, the show "The Challenge" was made by cross-casting, BMP/MTV took people from different reality shows (Real World and Road Rules) and created another reality show called "Real World/Road Rules Challenge". What would happend if production heard of the people complaining....we wouldn't even have this discussion.
The only contras I got from people that are against this are
1) Using people from RW and RR that never got casted first, before using AYTO people
2) Use people (Veterans & Virgins) that are still interested in doing one, before using AYTO people
3) It's not their show .... Speaking of this, don't you think it would creat drama if the originals from the Challenge would go against the ones from AYTO? It's a great instrument to create drama and apparently it did happen on the next season.
I'm not fully against AYTO, but also not fully for a crossing (yet) since I don't really think Jamie convinced us quite yet.
Someone here had a pretty good point, like MTV is probably using the AYTO people to promote the show AYTO in general, but he thinks it's a good idea from a "fresh new air" standpoint since there aren't anymore progressing storylines that hooks the people, the last real, new storylines wereJordan, Frank, Zach and Knight (But that sucked rating-wise) which is why MTV/BMP had to do themes with a catchy twist and they won't stop it until there are enough people that could do a show without any specific "team" theme. If you believe spoilers then it would appear that Free Agents was a very last minute change from Exes 2 to Duel 3 to Free Agents, because they couldn't get the teams/people they wanted. Spoilers also say that BMP/MTV just does not want to cast people that were there forth/fifth/sixth choice when they were first eligible for the challenge.
He thinks that Old vs. New would be a good theme, but he expects to be a pretty weak "Veterans" cast and a pretty strong "Newbies" cast since the last times, the newbies got crushed so badly which is not what he wants.
Actually thats a lie catchy formats were created before zach/Frank/Knight did their challenge debut. Thats why Rivals 1 and Exes 1 happened before their first challenge. The challenge hasnt work without a catchy format since the gauntlet 3, even though the ratings hasnt go as low as are you the one s 2. Theme challenges are going to continue because those bring ratings, not because they dont have enough people. Are you the one? Wasnt in the plan it was just their last minute solution after the people they wanted kept declining and dropping off because of the theme. Btw with the sad ratings are you the one its pulling I am expecting to be like camila a one time thing or both fresh meater that they casted only 7 fresh meaters from each for other challenges. In are you the one most likeley 4. Keep in mind having those 4 on this challenge cost BMP money not just apperances check since they had contract with the other production company until a year after their last episode of their ended.
PinkRose do you know the main couples they wanted?
Diem/CT she decide to do it last minute, Averey was another one that declined then changed her mind/decide to do it.
Heather/Johanna/Jenny/Kellyanne/Marie/Robb/Danny/ Lauren from explosion were contancted multiple times nothing changed their mind. So by what I heard they wanted Heather/Dustin, Jenny/Cory or Lauren/Cory, Marie/Robb, Danny/Melinda and Kelly anne partner no idea who would have been since I know Dunbar/Cohutta were contacted too unless they were going to stretch her hookup with Bananas/then put Nany with cohutta and I assume prooduction wanted Theresa with Wes since Johanna declined. Since it seems like they like Theresa shaddy ways.
Does are the ones I know about that declined, maybe there is more
On MTV eyes married people with kids are not that uinteresting.
That's such a stupid outlook to have. I guarantee you Beth would bring more to the table than any of the current lot.
Honestly, if you're going to exclude married individuals, you might as well exclude people in long term relationships too.
I HATE MTV's thought processes.
I would like to think that Beth/Veronica exceptions like Coral's since they are house hold names. I dont know if thode 3 got calls for exes 2 , but I know Coral has been contacted for almost every single challenge since gauntlet 3 including As a heavy hitter for cutthroat/Rivals 2/Free agents/etc.
What Survivor/Big Brother/Amazing Race did is not the same thing. Those shows are not spin-offs that were meant for certain people from certain shows they can cast anyone they want. The challenge was specifically made for The Real World and Road Rules(I don't care if it's called The Challnege doesn't mean any ******* from any show can come on) so to cast people that have nothing to do with this franchise just dillutes it and makes no sense at all. Especially when they got people from those two shows that they can use.
Why can't BMP/MTV cast whoever they want????? It's still and will always be their product
I dont know, but you have to realise that they broke with this "doctrine" when Fresh Meat hit the ground on 2006 when the show was still called Real World / Road Rules Challenge that was more than 8 years ago. 8 years ago, they already cast people that had nothing to do with the francise which is why I don't understand how some people still use this as to why AYTO shouldn't be on the challenge. "It was made for The Real World and Road Rules people", the company broke it years ago and 14 ****** went to do multiple challenges, even in times when the pool for casting was really full. Look at those four people like 4 new Fresh Meats.
Actually thats a lie catchy formats were created before zach/Frank/Knight did their challenge debut. Thats why Rivals 1 and Exes 1 happened before their first challenge. The challenge hasnt work without a catchy format since the gauntlet 3, even though the ratings hasnt go as low as are you the one s 2. Theme challenges are going to continue because those bring ratings, not because they dont have enough people. Are you the one? Wasnt in the plan it was just their last minute solution after the people they wanted kept declining and dropping off because of the theme. Btw with the sad ratings are you the one its pulling I am expecting to be like camila a one time thing or both fresh meater that they casted only 7 fresh meaters from each for other challenges. In are you the one most likeley 4. Keep in mind having those 4 on this challenge cost BMP money not just apperances check since they had contract with the other production company until a year after their last episode of their ended.
My bad, I meant catchy partner teams format and Rivals 1, Exes 1 were a rating hit, because these formats brought automatically new elements of storylines to the challenge that brought viewers, but it was with rather "veteran" people or people that did four,three challenges in a row (who felt like veterans) and not completly newbies.
I mean it's clear why Are you the one doesn't get the ratings than the lowest of the challenge get, the challenge has it's core fans that will tune in no matter the format and those fans are far bigger than AYTO. The Challenge is almost like a label and AYTO just some local drug dealer in Amsterdam.
Does really BMP have to buy that or does MTV since it was probably there "idea" that would be pretty mean if BMP has to pay it^^.
Wes/Johanna and Kellyanne/Cohutta would be awesome to watch. I'm so sad it didn't happen and we're stuck with fake *** couples that aren't even exes.
I know and I love how Johanna basically teased us at the end of the 25th special with Kenny saying we might just see her again on one of these. girl bye you played us or we played ourselves.
They really wouldn't, she just doesn't care about him and she's married now so they probably would just be like Dunbar & Paula, not friendly but not at each others throats either.
Why can't BMP/MTV cast whoever they want????? It's still and will always be their product
I dont know, but you have to realise that they broke with this "doctrine" when Fresh Meat hit the ground on 2006 when the show was still called Real World / Road Rules Challenge that was more than 8 years ago. 8 years ago, they already cast people that had nothing to do with the francise which is why I don't understand how some people still use this as to why AYTO shouldn't be on the challenge. "It was made for The Real World and Road Rules people", the company broke it years ago and 14 ****** went to do multiple challenges, even in times when the pool for casting was really full. Look at those four people like 4 new Fresh Meats.
You should know by now that I don't consider The Fresh ***** real castmembers. They don't count. The way I see it it's still The Real World/Road Rules challenge. That's why I ignore those ****** getting on this show.
And I already see these AYTO people as Non-castmembers so I'm way ahead of you on that.
I'm in the minority that loves AYTO being on The Challenge. I don't give a **** if they're not from the Real World or not. It's the same freakin channel, living in a house for a couple of months, and trying to achieve a goal. RW would be that person's individual personal goal, and AYTO is love & money. It's not that big of a deal, it's literally sister tv shows. I just think people are stubborn to changes, fans hate changes, and lets say if AYTO continued to be renewed and they brung a few on every season of the challenge, they'd get used to it and complain about something else.
P.s. all those other dumb MTV shows like Cat Fish shouldn't even be brought up because they have nothing to do with this. Those shows won't ever be considered because the format doesn't follow a group of people for a couple of months like RW & AYTO does.
I remember a ton of people were stubborn when we found out AYTO people were on this season, and they didn't even watch that show. They went back and watched AYTO season 1 and realized it's a good show and they stopped complaining. It really isn't that big of a deal ****, just watch the show and you'll like it. It really isn't even that different from Road Rules besides the fact that they don't live in an RV and travel around.
sigh.
I actually have watched AYTO, it has a stupid concept to it all but it's better to watch it when you're bored and have nothing better to do.
And Catfish might be different, but when I bring it up, its also on the same channel as RW/the Challenge and AYTO.
I honestly believe every reason that is in support of this change is pulling at straws. I see no value of having them on the Challenge, it wasn't their show in the first place, REGARDLESS of the Challenge having lost the RW/RR title, and even just a few of them on the show have clearly rubbed people the wrong way.
Anything can be said, I don't really care at this point. Pull at straws all you want, come up with the best reason on the planet for #antiAYTOonTheChallenge and let us all know, but I doubt quite a number of people will change their mind by watching the show.
I think this is not really a problem here. CBS (as an example) has used "cross-casting" people on multiple shows and the original show wasn't their show in the first place. Look at Big Brother, Survivor, The Amazing Race.
All three shows have used multiple people that were originally casted for the other.
Rachel Reily and Brandon Villegas were part of Big Brother , but CBS used them on The Amazing Race (Both shows are filmed by two different companies)
Rob & Amber Mariano were originally part of Survivor, but CBS used them on The Amazing Race (Again both filmed by two different companies)
Hayden Moss was originally part of Big Brother, but CBS used him on Survivor (I think you know what comes here)
This season: Nadiya/Natalie Anderson were originally part of The Amazing Race, but CBS used them on Survivor (You might get it)
Notice: This is even a far bigger example if you compare the fanbase of all three shows with the fanbase of The Challenge. Sure, people complain, but CBS still use it.
Cross-Casting is just another instrument to cast people, it's used a lot in the reality shows business in general. To think, that just because a show was not theirs in the first place, is basically a pretty weak argument here to stop casting people from different shows.
CBS owns all three shows and MTV owns both (The Challenge and AYTO). They can cast whoever they want.
Sure cross-casting has it's limit, for example, they have to have the same format like people competing for money (the formats of AYTO and The Challenge are the same) which is why Catfish will never be a part of The Challenge as Catfish is not a competition show.
Technically, the show "The Challenge" was made by cross-casting, BMP/MTV took people from different reality shows (Real World and Road Rules) and created another reality show called "Real World/Road Rules Challenge". What would happend if production heard of the people complaining....we wouldn't even have this discussion.
The only contras I got from people that are against this are
1) Using people from RW and RR that never got casted first, before using AYTO people
2) Use people (Veterans & Virgins) that are still interested in doing one, before using AYTO people
3) It's not their show .... Speaking of this, don't you think it would creat drama if the originals from the Challenge would go against the ones from AYTO? It's a great instrument to create drama and apparently it did happen on the next season.
I'm not fully against AYTO, but also not fully for a crossing (yet) since I don't really think Jamie convinced us quite yet.
Someone here had a pretty good point, like MTV is probably using the AYTO people to promote the show AYTO in general, but he thinks it's a good idea from a "fresh new air" standpoint since there aren't anymore progressing storylines that hooks the people, the last real, new storylines were Jordan, Frank, Zach and Knight (But that sucked rating-wise) which is why MTV/BMP had to do themes with a catchy twist and they won't stop it until there are enough people that could do a show without any specific "team" theme. If you believe spoilers then it would appear that Free Agents was a very last minute change from Exes 2 to Duel 3 to Free Agents, because they couldn't get the teams/people they wanted. Spoilers also say that BMP/MTV just does not want to cast people that were there forth/fifth/sixth choice when they were first eligible for the challenge.
He thinks that Old vs. New would be a good theme, but he expects to be a pretty weak "Veterans" cast and a pretty strong "Newbies" cast since the last times, the newbies got crushed so badly which is not what he wants.
It really isn't weak.
AYTO wasn't their show to begin with; at least when they did Road Rules or Real World, it was mentioned as a spin off of the Challenge (or the other way around, I might be confusing myself so correct me if I'm wrong). AYTO was meant to be a dating show, with no spin offs mentioned, and cross casting had never been needed before in the first place. Fresh Meat can't be brought into this because they did that with RR/RW people, AYTO did not.
Like what was said before, I think bringing JJ/Simone and Adam/Brittany on was a snap decision because everyone they asked declined, or figured out the theme before they could even announce it themselves. It made no real sense to bring them on, they're on a completely different show than the Real World and Road Rules people.
Big Brother is a mess tbh, and I lost interest in Survivor and the Amazing Race a while ago, but anyway...
AYTO can't be looked at as a FM either, I refuse. They were on a completely different show, that's over and done with. I like me some Simone/JJ, Adam/Brittany are really boring for me because I'd honestly prefer Chris/Shanley, but again, MTV didn't have to resort to these four. They should have kept casting within the RR/RW franchise, and what AYTO can do, RW/RR can do better. If we're going back to the drama factor... Well, we don't need AYTO for that, that's for sure.
Wes/Johanna and Kellyanne/Cohutta would be awesome to watch. I'm so sad it didn't happen and we're stuck with fake *** couples that aren't even exes.
I know and I love how Johanna basically teased us at the end of the 25th special with Kenny saying we might just see her again on one of these. girl bye you played us or we played ourselves.
She played herself thinking that most people actually wanted to see her again to even try & "tease" people about returning. She can stay wherever she's at lol
What Survivor/Big Brother/Amazing Race did is not the same thing. Those shows are not spin-offs that were meant for certain people from certain shows they can cast anyone they want. The challenge was specifically made for The Real World and Road Rules(I don't care if it's called The Challnege doesn't mean any ******* from any show can come on) so to cast people that have nothing to do with this franchise just dillutes it and makes no sense at all. Especially when they got people from those two shows that they can use.
Why can't BMP/MTV cast whoever they want????? It's still and will always be their product
I dont know, but you have to realise that they broke with this "doctrine" when Fresh Meat hit the ground on 2006 when the show was still called Real World / Road Rules Challenge that was more than 8 years ago. 8 years ago, they already cast people that had nothing to do with the francise which is why I don't understand how some people still use this as to why AYTO shouldn't be on the challenge. "It was made for The Real World and Road Rules people", the company broke it years ago and 14 ****** went to do multiple challenges, even in times when the pool for casting was really full. Look at those four people like 4 new Fresh Meats.
Actually thats a lie catchy formats were created before zach/Frank/Knight did their challenge debut. Thats why Rivals 1 and Exes 1 happened before their first challenge. The challenge hasnt work without a catchy format since the gauntlet 3, even though the ratings hasnt go as low as are you the one s 2. Theme challenges are going to continue because those bring ratings, not because they dont have enough people. Are you the one? Wasnt in the plan it was just their last minute solution after the people they wanted kept declining and dropping off because of the theme. Btw with the sad ratings are you the one its pulling I am expecting to be like camila a one time thing or both fresh meater that they casted only 7 fresh meaters from each for other challenges. In are you the one most likeley 4. Keep in mind having those 4 on this challenge cost BMP money not just apperances check since they had contract with the other production company until a year after their last episode of their ended.
My bad, I meant catchy partner teams format and Rivals 1, Exes 1 were a rating hit, because these formats brought automatically new elements of storylines to the challenge that brought viewers, but it was with rather "veteran" people or people that did four,three challenges in a row (who felt like veterans) and not completly newbies.
I mean it's clear why Are you the one doesn't get the ratings than the lowest of the challenge get, the challenge has it's core fans that will tune in no matter the format and those fans are far bigger than AYTO. The Challenge is almost like a label and AYTO just some local drug dealer in Amsterdam.
Does really BMP have to buy that or does MTV since it was probably there "idea" that would be pretty mean if BMP has to pay it^^
Lmaoooo love this statement and well yeah MTV not BMP.
Initially I was against AYTO castmembers being on the challenge. I didn't watch the first season when it was announced but I recently binge-watched the second season and then the first and I fell in love with the show.
I'm excited for Simone and JJ is amusing at times. Adam is kind of bland to me and Brittany just seems insane and stubborn as **** and I see her annoying me. However I liked the entire cast a lot and wouldn't be against seeing them.
i do love the cast of season 2 better however. I love Paris and Pratt and would love them on a challenge, I'd also like Briana, Ellie, John, Jenni, and possibly a few others.
I have been been a challenge fan for a long, long time and am all for seeing new competitors. I like seeing people's abilities to compete and newcomers can show me themselves anytime. Keep the challenges fresh and new and I'll be happy.
i don't even watch the RW religiously like I used to. AYTO has kept me interested and entertained. I like the challenges and the getaways and the interactions between the cast. There seems to be good potential in some castmembers physically and mentally.
Initially I was against AYTO castmembers being on the challenge. I didn't watch the first season when it was announced but I recently binge-watched the second season and then the first and I fell in love with the show.
I'm excited for Simone and JJ is amusing at times. Adam is kind of bland to me and Brittany just seems insane and stubborn as **** and I see her annoying me. However I liked the entire cast a lot and wouldn't be against seeing them.
i do love the cast of season 2 better however. I love Paris and Pratt and would love them on a challenge, I'd also like Briana, Ellie, John, Jenni, and possibly a few others.
I have been been a challenge fan for a long, long time and am all for seeing new competitors. I like seeing people's abilities to compete and newcomers can show me themselves anytime. Keep the challenges fresh and new and I'll be happy.
i don't even watch the RW religiously like I used to. AYTO has kept me interested and entertained. I like the challenges and the getaways and the interactions between the cast. There seems to be good potential in some castmembers physically and mentally.
GO get em Jamie!
We can't change people's opinions, but it doesn't matter cause they're on the show anyways so YAY! :DDD
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I think this is not really a problem here. CBS (as an example) has used "cross-casting" people on multiple shows and the original show wasn't their show in the first place. Look at Big Brother, Survivor, The Amazing Race.
All three shows have used multiple people that were originally casted for the other.
Rachel Reily and Brandon Villegas were part of Big Brother , but CBS used them on The Amazing Race (Both shows are filmed by two different companies)
Rob & Amber Mariano were originally part of Survivor, but CBS used them on The Amazing Race (Again both filmed by two different companies)
Hayden Moss was originally part of Big Brother, but CBS used him on Survivor (I think you know what comes here)
This season: Nadiya/Natalie Anderson were originally part of The Amazing Race, but CBS used them on Survivor (You might get it)
Notice: This is even a far bigger example if you compare the fanbase of all three shows with the fanbase of The Challenge. Sure, people complain, but CBS still use it.
Cross-Casting is just another instrument to cast people, it's used a lot in the reality shows business in general. To think, that just because a show was not theirs in the first place, is basically a pretty weak argument here to stop casting people from different shows.
CBS owns all three shows and MTV owns both (The Challenge and AYTO). They can cast whoever they want.
Sure cross-casting has it's limit, for example, they have to have the same format like people competing for money (the formats of AYTO and The Challenge are the same) which is why Catfish will never be a part of The Challenge as Catfish is not a competition show.
Technically, the show "The Challenge" was made by cross-casting, BMP/MTV took people from different reality shows (Real World and Road Rules) and created another reality show called "Real World/Road Rules Challenge". What would happend if production heard of the people complaining....we wouldn't even have this discussion.
The only contras I got from people that are against this are
1) Using people from RW and RR that never got casted first, before using AYTO people
2) Use people (Veterans & Virgins) that are still interested in doing one, before using AYTO people
3) It's not their show .... Speaking of this, don't you think it would creat drama if the originals from the Challenge would go against the ones from AYTO? It's a great instrument to create drama and apparently it did happen on the next season.
I'm not fully against AYTO, but also not fully for a crossing (yet) since I don't really think Jamie convinced us quite yet.
Someone here had a pretty good point, like MTV is probably using the AYTO people to promote the show AYTO in general, but he thinks it's a good idea from a "fresh new air" standpoint since there aren't anymore progressing storylines that hooks the people, the last real, new storylines were Jordan, Frank, Zach and Knight (But that sucked rating-wise) which is why MTV/BMP had to do themes with a catchy twist and they won't stop it until there are enough people that could do a show without any specific "team" theme. If you believe spoilers then it would appear that Free Agents was a very last minute change from Exes 2 to Duel 3 to Free Agents, because they couldn't get the teams/people they wanted.
Spoilers also say that BMP/MTV just does not want to cast people that were there forth/fifth/sixth choice when they were first eligible for the challenge.
He thinks that Old vs. New would be a good theme, but he expects to be a pretty weak "Veterans" cast and a pretty strong "Newbies" cast since the last times, the newbies got crushed so badly which is not what he wants.
Which is really sad as it totally defeats the purpose of RW. The show lost all its meaning to me. I'd much rather watch AYTO people because most of them go on the show for other purposes than simply being cast on The Challenge.
His name is John Jacobs and I could watch him all day every day. He's hilarious.
They go on ayto to make money, how is.that any better?
AYTO's purpose is to win money. It's a competition show. That's the purpose of the show.
****!!! Haha GD! I'm really not trying to convince people!! However!!!!!!!! Having ayto on a challenge would be combining my 2 great loves!!! And you would still get to keep what you love!!! So I think it's a great idea to make some people happy with seeing who they love on TV with other people they love to watch!! At the same time!! Interacting!!
What Survivor/Big Brother/Amazing Race did is not the same thing. Those shows are not spin-offs that were meant for certain people from certain shows they can cast anyone they want. The challenge was specifically made for The Real World and Road Rules(I don't care if it's called The Challnege doesn't mean any ******* from any show can come on) so to cast people that have nothing to do with this franchise just dillutes it and makes no sense at all. Especially when they got people from those two shows that they can use.
Actually thats a lie catchy formats were created before zach/Frank/Knight did their challenge debut. Thats why Rivals 1 and Exes 1 happened before their first challenge. The challenge hasnt work without a catchy format since the gauntlet 3, even though the ratings hasnt go as low as are you the one s 2. Theme challenges are going to continue because those bring ratings, not because they dont have enough people.
Are you the one? Wasnt in the plan it was just their last minute solution after the people they wanted kept declining and dropping off because of the theme.
Btw with the sad ratings are you the one its pulling I am expecting to be like camila a one time thing or both fresh meater that they casted only 7 fresh meaters from each for other challenges. In are you the one most likeley 4. Keep in mind having those 4 on this challenge cost BMP money not just apperances check since they had contract with the other production company until a year after their last episode of their ended.
PinkRose do you know the main couples they wanted?
CT & Diem, Johnny & Averey, and Dustin & Heather were high priority.
Diem/CT she decide to do it last minute, Averey was another one that declined then changed her mind/decide to do it.
Heather/Johanna/Jenny/Kellyanne/Marie/Robb/Danny/ Lauren from explosion were contancted multiple times nothing changed their mind. So by what I heard they wanted Heather/Dustin, Jenny/Cory or Lauren/Cory, Marie/Robb, Danny/Melinda and Kelly anne partner no idea who would have been since I know Dunbar/Cohutta were contacted too unless they were going to stretch her hookup with Bananas/then put Nany with cohutta and I assume prooduction wanted Theresa with Wes since Johanna declined. Since it seems like they like Theresa shaddy ways.
Does are the ones I know about that declined, maybe there is more
Did Darrell and Rachel also decline?
To my understanding they received availability calls and never heard back again from production.
In their case it was the opposite they wated to do it, but production didn't even bother getting them.
On MTV eyes married people with kids are not that interesting.
That's such a stupid outlook to have. I guarantee you Beth would bring more to the table than any of the current lot.
Honestly, if you're going to exclude married individuals, you might as well exclude people in long term relationships too.
I HATE MTV's thought processes.
I would like to think that Beth/Veronica exceptions like Coral's since they are house hold names. I dont know if thode 3 got calls for exes 2 , but I know Coral has been contacted for almost every single challenge since gauntlet 3 including As a heavy hitter for cutthroat/Rivals 2/Free agents/etc.
Wes/Johanna would be priceless omg
Why can't BMP/MTV cast whoever they want????? It's still and will always be their product
I dont know, but you have to realise that they broke with this "doctrine" when Fresh Meat hit the ground on 2006 when the show was still called Real World / Road Rules Challenge that was more than 8 years ago. 8 years ago, they already cast people that had nothing to do with the francise which is why I don't understand how some people still use this as to why AYTO shouldn't be on the challenge. "It was made for The Real World and Road Rules people", the company broke it years ago and 14 ****** went to do multiple challenges, even in times when the pool for casting was really full. Look at those four people like 4 new Fresh Meats.
My bad, I meant catchy partner teams format and Rivals 1, Exes 1 were a rating hit, because these formats brought automatically new elements of storylines to the challenge that brought viewers, but it was with rather "veteran" people or people that did four,three challenges in a row (who felt like veterans) and not completly newbies.
I mean it's clear why Are you the one doesn't get the ratings than the lowest of the challenge get, the challenge has it's core fans that will tune in no matter the format and those fans are far bigger than AYTO. The Challenge is almost like a label and AYTO just some local drug dealer in Amsterdam.
Does really BMP have to buy that or does MTV since it was probably there "idea" that would be pretty mean if BMP has to pay it^^.
Wes/Johanna and Kellyanne/Cohutta would be awesome to watch. I'm so sad it didn't happen and we're stuck with fake *** couples that aren't even exes.
They really wouldn't, she just doesn't care about him and she's married now so they probably would just be like Dunbar & Paula, not friendly but not at each others throats either.
You should know by now that I don't consider The Fresh ***** real castmembers. They don't count. The way I see it it's still The Real World/Road Rules challenge. That's why I ignore those ****** getting on this show.
And I already see these AYTO people as Non-castmembers so I'm way ahead of you on that.
It really isn't weak.
AYTO wasn't their show to begin with; at least when they did Road Rules or Real World, it was mentioned as a spin off of the Challenge (or the other way around, I might be confusing myself so correct me if I'm wrong). AYTO was meant to be a dating show, with no spin offs mentioned, and cross casting had never been needed before in the first place. Fresh Meat can't be brought into this because they did that with RR/RW people, AYTO did not.
Like what was said before, I think bringing JJ/Simone and Adam/Brittany on was a snap decision because everyone they asked declined, or figured out the theme before they could even announce it themselves. It made no real sense to bring them on, they're on a completely different show than the Real World and Road Rules people.
Big Brother is a mess tbh, and I lost interest in Survivor and the Amazing Race a while ago, but anyway...
AYTO can't be looked at as a FM either, I refuse. They were on a completely different show, that's over and done with. I like me some Simone/JJ, Adam/Brittany are really boring for me because I'd honestly prefer Chris/Shanley, but again, MTV didn't have to resort to these four. They should have kept casting within the RR/RW franchise, and what AYTO can do, RW/RR can do better. If we're going back to the drama factor... Well, we don't need AYTO for that, that's for sure.
She played herself thinking that most people actually wanted to see her again to even try & "tease" people about returning. She can stay wherever she's at lol
Lmaoooo love this statement and well yeah MTV not BMP.
Initially I was against AYTO castmembers being on the challenge. I didn't watch the first season when it was announced but I recently binge-watched the second season and then the first and I fell in love with the show.
I'm excited for Simone and JJ is amusing at times. Adam is kind of bland to me and Brittany just seems insane and stubborn as **** and I see her annoying me. However I liked the entire cast a lot and wouldn't be against seeing them.
i do love the cast of season 2 better however. I love Paris and Pratt and would love them on a challenge, I'd also like Briana, Ellie, John, Jenni, and possibly a few others.
I have been been a challenge fan for a long, long time and am all for seeing new competitors. I like seeing people's abilities to compete and newcomers can show me themselves anytime. Keep the challenges fresh and new and I'll be happy.
i don't even watch the RW religiously like I used to. AYTO has kept me interested and entertained. I like the challenges and the getaways and the interactions between the cast. There seems to be good potential in some castmembers physically and mentally.
Love all of this!!
Do people forget that you can't talk about spoilers on here? ._.
There goes the all of the mystery about this upcoming challenge down the drain in 1 comment.
Back to avoiding all The Challenge threads since people don't want to learn. ugh
I'm sorry timster
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