[QUOTE=bgstl77;440390]Christine/Nicole won BOB - Frankie remains HOH with Jocasta/Victoria as noms.[/QUOTE]
So Jocasta/Victoria/Caleb/Amber goes home...which is fine. We're all just waiting for the real game to begin
Getting rid of all of these bad players is just fine with me
[QUOTE=kvm1977;440406]So Jocasta/Victoria/Caleb/Amber goes home...which is fine. We're all just waiting for the real game to begin
Getting rid of all of these bad players is just fine with me[/QUOTE]
Even if the real game begins when the girls are out I could care less about any of the detonators/bombsquad members.
[QUOTE=TKW92;440412]Even if the real game begins when the girls are out I could care less about any of the detonators/bombsquad members.[/QUOTE]
EXACTLY!
#GoDonny
[QUOTE=TKW92;440412]Even if the real game begins when the girls are out I could care less about any of the detonators/bombsquad members.[/QUOTE]
This is a game...if you aren't rooting for people playing the game that's on you.
This isn't...s/he's awesome--I hope they win. PLAY THE GAME OR GO HOME.
Every single person that has left deserved to leave...win something for the love of God.
Derrick just received news that his grandfather has passed. Houseguests are currently in the common area, silent.
My sincere condolences go out to his family. These things don't get any easier to deal with. Derrick's very strong, and I really admire how he's dealing with it.
Two grandfathers in a week. This is just utterly upsetting and that house seems very shaken.
[QUOTE=TKW92;440412]Even if the real game begins when the girls are out I could care less about any of the detonators/bombsquad members.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. This season is boring as hell and very few people seem to be playing the game.
I actually agree with kvm here, it will be interesting to see what happens when the big alliance has to turn on each other. Same thing happened with last season and people not playing the game is nothing new. The last few seasons have had tons of that.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;440438]I actually agree with kvm here, it will be interesting to see what happens when the big alliance has to turn on each other. Same thing happened with last season and people not playing the game is nothing new. The last few seasons have had tons of that.[/QUOTE]
Last season was a HOT MESS but I enjoyed it more than I'm enjoying this season right now.
However, I wish they switched the twist! Like they should have done the 2 HOHs last season and the MVP thing this season. Cause I think last seasons cast would have done the 2 HOHs and Team America twist much more justice. And I think with how the power is this season the MVP twist would have been a nice spin. Could you imagine America putting Caleb on the block and he didn't even know who did it?!?! He would be pissed!
GILPSVZ
Congrats for finishing this leg of the race! This concludes this half of the Final Mission. Rest up for Sunday because you will pick up where you left off!
[QUOTE=kvm1977;440423]This is a game...if you aren't rooting for people playing the game that's on you.
This isn't...s/he's awesome--I hope they win. PLAY THE GAME OR GO HOME.
Every single person that has left deserved to leave...win something for the love of God.[/QUOTE]
Devin won 2 comps and he definitely should not have left. But only Derrick, Frankie, and Devin were actually playing their own games. Devin had the right ideas but executed them poorly. I'd much rather him be there than any one of Victoria, Jocasta, Zach, Amber, Cody, Christine, and Nicole. As he was actually doing his own thing and made it interesting. Everyone else I just named is handing 500k to Derrick or Frankie. Which is why Derrick wanted Devin out so badly. There's a reason why they're fighting so hard to keep Zach(who pretty much did the same thing as Devin, and Caleb who was Devin's closest ally). They can be controlled and are being used as shields.
I also would've preferred Joey to stay longer in place of Victoria or Jocasta.
Why are we bringing up comp wins? The best player last season didn't even win a comp until it was the F9. The game Christine and Nicole play isn't fun to watch or interesting, but it's a sound strategy. People thought Andy was playing for McCranda to win, too.
[QUOTE=TeamLandon;440469]Devin won 2 comps and he definitely should not have left. But only Derrick, Frankie, and Devin were actually playing their own games. Devin had the right ideas but executed them poorly. I'd much rather him be there than any one of Victoria, Jocasta, Zach, Amber, Cody, Christine, and Nicole. As he was actually doing his own thing and made it interesting. Everyone else I just named is handing 500k to Derrick or Frankie. Which is why Derrick wanted Devin out so badly. There's a reason why they're fighting so hard to keep Zach(who pretty much did the same thing as Devin, and Caleb who was Devin's closest ally). They can be controlled and are being used as shields.
I also would've preferred Joey to stay longer in place of Victoria or Jocasta.[/QUOTE]
Devin had the worst social game I've seen in years. When you execute ideas poorly you deserve to go home immediately.
Joey also was an idiot..."let me tell the guys I tried to form an all women alliance." That's begging to be evicted.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;440497]Why are we bringing up comp wins? The best player last season didn't even win a comp until it was the F9. The game Christine and Nicole play isn't fun to watch or interesting, but it's a sound strategy. People thought Andy was playing for McCranda to win, too.[/QUOTE]
In this format , with 2 HOHs, you have to win comps or at least play a great social game
No one in that house is playing a great social game
Go back and read my quotes. Andy played an elite game from day one last year. He was never playing McCranda's game...
I've also defended the game play of Christine & Nicole
It is the others...Victoria, Brittany, Joey, Jacosta, etc that need to win stuff because of the status of the game and the twist
[QUOTE=kvm1977;440518]In this format , with 2 HOHs, you have to win comps or at least play a great social game
No one in that house is playing a great social game
Go back and read my quotes. Andy played an elite game from day one last year. He was never playing McCranda's game...
I've also defended the game play of Christine & Nicole
It is the others...Victoria, Brittany, Joey, Jacosta, etc that need to win stuff because of the status of the game and the twist[/QUOTE]
Never said Andy was playing for McCranda, just what people thought. This is also what people are saying about Christine/Nicole.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;440524]Never said Andy was playing for McCranda, just what people thought. This is also what people are saying about Christine/Nicole.[/QUOTE]
Those people then don't understand the game
[QUOTE=kvm1977;440423]This is a game...if you aren't rooting for people playing the game that's on you.
This isn't...s/he's awesome--I hope they win. PLAY THE GAME OR GO HOME.
Every single person that has left deserved to leave...win something for the love of God.[/QUOTE]
It's okay to apprciate gameplay but it's just that a change in the game would be nice. Every week the game has been controlled by someone in with Bomb Squad or Detonators. It's worse than season 12. Even with the brigade dominating there was Brenchel or someone else in control for a week. You might enjoy the gameplay but their are people who are bored with the one sided dominance and waiting a couple more weeks for things to get good isn't gonna help.
[QUOTE=TKW92;440531]That's fine it's just that a change in the game would be nice. [B]Every week the game has been controlled by someone in with Bomb Squad or Detonators.[/B] It's worse than season 12. Even with the brigade dominating at least there was Brenchel to mix things up.[/QUOTE]
Who's fault is that?
Brenchel (I hate both of them) only helped the Brigade.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;440532]Who's fault is that?
Brenchel (I hate both of them) only helped the Brigade.[/QUOTE]
I don't agree with you. Let's leave it at that.
[QUOTE=TKW92;440536]I don't agree with you. Let's leave it at that.[/QUOTE]
If you don't agree you have to support it
How did Brenchel not help the Brigade? Rachel took out Monet (irrelevant) and Kristen while Brendon targeted Matt for the Brigade. The Brigade (include Brit) controlled every single nomination
There's no disagreement on who's fault it is. Win
[QUOTE=kvm1977;440538]If you don't agree you have to support it
How did Brenchel not help the Brigade? Rachel took out Monet (irrelevant) and Kristen while Brendon targeted Matt for the Brigade. The Brigade (include Brit) controlled every single nomination
There's no disagreement on who's fault it is. Win[/QUOTE]
My point that it was not all 100% brigade in control. And I don't have to support it just because you say so. If that were the case you should support my opinion that the current season is boring.
[QUOTE=TKW92;440545]My point that it was not all 100% brigade in control. And I don't have to support it just because you say so. If that were the case you should support my opinion that the current season is boring.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it was. The Brigade dictated Rachel's first HOH (see Matt going up), let Rachel get rid of Kristen (they needed Hayden away from her) then got Braden to try to take out Matt.
Everyone opinion must be supported. Stating this season is boring is fine but you can't claim that Brenchel did anything to disrupt what the Brigade wanted. It only shows you either weren't paying attention that season or stated something without thinking it through. Backing off that stance is fine but the comment was wrong. It wasn't even an opinion--it was just wrong. Just like you can't argue the fact this season is boring because the other people in the house can't win to gain power.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;440554]Yes, it was. The Brigade dictated Rachel's first HOH (see Matt going up), let Rachel get rid of Kristen (they needed Hayden away from her) then got Braden to try to take out Matt.
Everyone opinion must be supported. Stating this season is boring is fine but you can't claim that Brenchel did anything to disrupt what the Brigade wanted. It only shows you either weren't paying attention that season or stated something without thinking it through. Backing off that stance is fine but the comment was wrong. It wasn't even an opinion--it was just wrong. Just like you can't argue the fact this season is boring because the other people in the house can't win to gain power.[/QUOTE]
Juzt because you don't agree with an opinion doesn't make it wrong. Let's just end this. Obviously we're never gonna see eye to eye. Let's just agree that there are some people that will support your opinion and some people will support mine.
[QUOTE=TKW92;440560]Juzt because you don't agree with an opinion doesn't make it wrong. Let's just end this. Obviously we're never gonna see eye to eye. Let's just agree that there are some people that will support your opinion and some people will support mine.[/QUOTE]
There is nothing worse in the world than something that makes a statement and refuses to support it. If you aren't willing to back up what you say then don't speak (or in this case write it). I was always go after that. Always. You're inability to defend your "opinion" is proof that you can't. There's no agreeing to disagree...you're wrong
[QUOTE=kvm1977;440566]There is nothing worse in the world than something that makes a statement and refuses to support it. If you aren't willing to back up what you say then don't speak (or in this case write it). I was always go after that. Always. You're inability to defend your "opinion" is proof that you can't. There's no agreeing to disagree...you're wrong[/QUOTE]
For god sakes let it go.
[QUOTE=TKW92;440569]For god sakes let it go.[/QUOTE]
Admit your wrong, defend your stance or quit replying...those are the three options
Attorney = me. I don't "let things go"...I win or lose but typically win
I think what is trying to be said is that in BB12 members of the Brigade didn't win ever single week. Rachel won in week 2 and 4 and took out who she wanted to take out which was the "irrelevant" Monet and Kristen. If my memory serves me correctly it was because of the potential showmance of Hayden & Kristin because she put them up together. Brendon won and tried to take a stab at the Brigade and failed. Britney won, who wasn't a member of the Brigade. She had close ties with Lane in particular and she had common enemies ie Brendon. It was merely the dynamics of that house which caused every other HOH to aid the Brigade whether they realized it or not.
With BB16 Fail Squad as been the final HOH for five consecutive which is even worse than what the Brigade did the first five weeks of their season.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;440554]Yes, it was. The Brigade dictated Rachel's first HOH ([B]see Matt going up[/B]), let Rachel get rid of Kristen (they needed Hayden away from her) then got Braden to try to take out Matt.
Everyone opinion must be supported. Stating this season is boring is fine but you can't claim that Brenchel did anything to disrupt what the Brigade wanted. It only shows you either weren't paying attention that season or stated something without thinking it through. Backing off that stance is fine but the comment was wrong. It wasn't even an opinion--it was just wrong. Just like you can't argue the fact this season is boring because the other people in the house can't win to gain power.[/QUOTE]
I thought Matt volunteered because he was cocky, right?
[QUOTE=Clarke;440575]I thought Matt volunteered because he was cocky, right?[/QUOTE]
Right, he put himself up knowing he'd have the votes to stay (Brigade + Ragan) but the Brigade absolutely ran not only the first couple weeks but the entire season.
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