The Challenge: Generic Thread

I don't think Mark Long is top 10. Definitely top 20, maybe top 15. maybe.

[QUOTE=TheBestBully;439048]You want 10 that's better than him? You got it. 1.Landon 2.CT 3.Darrel 4.Abram 5.Evan 6.Theo Von 7.Dan S. 8.The Miz 9.Timmy 10. Alton[/QUOTE] Wait, now Theo & Dan are better competitors...should I go back a few pages Timmy? I love Timmy but LMAO. Landon, CT, Darrell, Evan, Mike (questionable IMO) and Alton are all legit arguments. Theo & Dan are legit if you didn't bash them earlier. Abram's questionable but okay. Timmy--just no and, again, I love Timmy. I actually know/knew him. Great guy. Not in Mark's league as a competitor and he'd be the first to say that.

[QUOTE=JayTee;439057]I didn't start it. Someone else did and I thought everyone was giving their opinion so I threw out a list.[/QUOTE] Okay--someone else that you threw a list together that really got it going.

[QUOTE=JayTee;439057]I didn't start it. Someone else did and I thought everyone was giving their opinion so I threw out a list.[/QUOTE] Yeah that someone else was ME! I asked the question of who do you think was overated and I was one of the first people that stated Mark was overated. I'm not the one acting like an Idiot here.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;439062]Okay--someone else that you threw a list together that really got it going.[/QUOTE] But I still started the topic. I was here.

People are legitimately trying to tell me that Mark Long in his prime if every single person to ever compete in a challenge was available in a draft (see Cutthroat) that he wouldn't be a top 10 pick. Is this for real? Mark in his mid-30s was better than everyone not named Landon on The Duel 2--including Evan, Brad & MJ among others.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;439065]But I still started the topic. I was here.[/QUOTE] No, you didn't. You just think any time you say something that's when the topic starts

[QUOTE=nevidcm;439058]I would swap Derrick for Timmy on that list, everything else I agree.[/QUOTE] Timmy destroyed Derrick in Reverse Tug of War.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;439064]Yeah that someone else was ME! I asked the question of who do you think was overated and I was one of the first people that stated Mark was overated. I'm not the one acting like an Idiot here.[/QUOTE] COMPETITORS...is that word you don't comprehend? Is it? Clearly it is The problem here is you know he's an elite competitor...you just refuse to look at this as a competition. WHICH IT IS

[QUOTE=TheBestBully;439068]Timmy destroyed Derrick in Reverse Tug of War.[/QUOTE] Again, all remember is eliminations. Of course Timmy beat Derrick in Reverse Tug O War

[QUOTE=kvm1977;439067]No, you didn't. You just think any time you say something that's when the topic starts[/QUOTE] YES I DID! I was the one that asked everyone who you thought was overrated in the challenge world. THEN the discussion started. you all were talking about something different then.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;439062]Okay--someone else that you threw a list together that really got it going.[/QUOTE] I always get things going.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;439066]People are legitimately trying to tell me that Mark Long in his prime if every single person to ever compete in a challenge was available in a draft (see Cutthroat) that he wouldn't be a top 10 pick. Is this for real? Mark in his mid-30s was better than everyone not named Landon on The Duel 2--including Evan, Brad & MJ among others.[/QUOTE] He didn't outperform Evan IMO.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;439071]YES I DID! I was the one that asked everyone who you thought was overrated in the challenge world. THEN the discussion started. you all were talking about something different then.[/QUOTE] Again, no you didn't

[QUOTE=TheBestBully;439074]He didn't outperform Evan IMO.[/QUOTE] Yes, he did

[QUOTE=kvm1977;439069]COMPETITORS...is that word you don't comprehend? Is it? Clearly it is The problem here is you know he's an elite competitor..[B].you just refuse to look at this as a competition. WHICH IT IS[/B][/QUOTE] IT'S A REALITY SHOW! FIRST AND FOREMOST. Does ANYONE understand that?

[QUOTE=kvm1977;439075]Again, no you didn't[/QUOTE] Again yes I did.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;439060]Wait, now Theo & Dan are better competitors...should I go back a few pages Timmy? I love Timmy but LMAO. Landon, CT, Darrell, Evan, Mike (questionable IMO) and Alton are all legit arguments. Theo & Dan are legit if you didn't bash them earlier. Abram's questionable but okay. Timmy--just no and, again, I love Timmy. I actually know/knew him. Great guy. Not in Mark's league as a competitor and he'd be the first to say that.[/QUOTE] The Miz in his Inferno diary said he was afraid of Timmy and saw him as Road Rules strongest competitor.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;439077]IT'S A REALITY SHOW! FIRST AND FOREMOST. Does ANYONE understand that?[/QUOTE] A reality show BASED on competition. Just like Survivor, The Amazing Race & any other game that is BASED on competition.

[QUOTE=PinkRose;439053]Finally.[/QUOTE] I never disagree with you on that, I though you were taking away from his wins. Oh no not at all. They're still legit wins. I'll give him props for that.

[QUOTE=TheBestBully;439080]The Miz in his Inferno diary said he was afraid of Timmy and saw him as Road Rules strongest competitor.[/QUOTE] Timmy was the heart and soul of that team but Darrell & Abram are better competitors. Timmy's great but not in the league. I'd want him on my team just because he's a very good competitor, a great leader and someone you can rely on but top 10--no

[QUOTE=kvm1977;439081]A reality show BASED on competition. Just like Survivor, The Amazing Race & any other game that is BASED on competition.[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter. They're still reality shows.

Okay, some of you think Mark is great and some of you think he's overrated. This argument is bordering on personal attacks and I think it's time we all moved on.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;439084]It doesn't matter. They're still reality shows.[/QUOTE] you can't ignore the competition aspect--they don't exist without it.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;439076]Yes, he did[/QUOTE] No he didn't, Evan did much better than him.

[QUOTE=TheBestBully;439087]No he didn't, Evan did much better than him.[/QUOTE] How?

[QUOTE=Youssarian;439085]Okay, some of you think Mark is great and some of you think he's overrated. This argument is bordering on personal attacks and I think it's time we all moved on.[/QUOTE] Agreed.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;439086]you can't ignore the competition aspect--they don't exist without it.[/QUOTE] Actually yes I can. The Competition is not the most important aspect of ANY of those shows. Drama and Conflict is. Those shows didn't stay on the air for so long because of the competition. You don't seem to get that.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;439093]Actually yes I can. The Competition is not the most important aspect of ANY of those shows. Drama and Conflict is. Those shows didn't stay on the air for so long because of the competition. You don't seem to get that.[/QUOTE] The drama and conflict are a result from the competition smart one.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;439093]Actually yes I can. The Competition is not the most important aspect of ANY of those shows. Drama and Conflict is. Those shows didn't stay on the air for so long because of the competition. You don't seem to get that.[/QUOTE] The majority watch to see who wins not contrived drama...that's why the fan bases for these shows isn't the same as The Real World or The Bachelor.