[QUOTE=TheBestBully;439020]That's your opinion, I've watched every season, I don't see anything that makes him top 10, especially The Duel 2.[/QUOTE]
Do we literally need to go through every performance on The Duel II so you realize how stupid this is?
Name 10 competitors that are better than Mark. Please. I can't wait to see this stupidity. I just pray someone horrible like Dustin or Jordan is included.
[QUOTE=Youssarian;439016]I think Katelynn's definitely in that group of girls but I actually think she's maybe a slight, tiny step above at least Shauvon and probably Casey and Brooke.[/QUOTE]
I'd take Casey as my partner any day over Katelynn. The only girl I'd take Katelynn over is Shauvon...Katelynn-Brooke is a coin toss.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;439021]That has nothing to do with him being overrated as a competitor.
And "what he thinks" is irrelevant to what "people think about him".
We can spin this however we want. [B]He's the reason Road Rules worked and lasted past a season. Him and Kit[/B][/QUOTE]
That is Bull and you know it. Even if that was true he's not A God or Legend of this franchise YOU can spin it how you want. What you say isn't true.
And I don't care about him as a competitor.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;438988]You talk about I'm a wall but yet you're not getting what I am saying. Those wins were legitimate. I'm not taking it away from him but THEY WERE EASY! He was going to win them no matter what. Are you really gonna sit here and say that either Isaac or Jordan had a good shot at beating Backpack? Really? That's plain garbage and you know it. And all the people you listed went up against Legit competition. Backpack did not on that particular challenge(well for the most part..He went up against CT and I'll give him that one)[/QUOTE]
I get what you're saying and I agree, Bananas eliminations wins on free agents were not impressive at all. Beating a scrub like isaac and then beating jordan in that type of elimination wasn't impressive at all. Him beating CT was the only elimination win that impressed me on free agents.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;439025]That is Bull and you know it. Even if that was true he's not A God or Legend of this franchise YOU can spin it how you want. What you say isn't true.
And I don't care about him as a competitor.[/QUOTE]
How is that not true? Did you even watch the first season of Road Rules when it first aired
The discussion is about HIM AS A COMPETITOR. THAT"S IT.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;439023]Do we literally need to go through every performance on The Duel II so you realize how stupid this is?
Name 10 competitors that are better than Mark. Please. I can't wait to see this stupidity. I just pray someone horrible like Dustin or Jordan is included.[/QUOTE]
Go ahead, he won twice because he was paired with Rachel who was the best woman on that season. Keep on riding on Mark.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;438988]You talk about I'm a wall but yet you're not getting what I am saying. Those wins were legitimate. I'm not taking it away from him but THEY WERE EASY! He was going to win them no matter what. Are you really gonna sit here and say that either Isaac or Jordan had a good shot at beating Backpack? Really? That's plain garbage and you know it. And all the people you listed went up against Legit competition. Backpack did not on that particular challenge(well for the most part..He went up against CT and I'll give him that one)[/QUOTE]
Let see every elimination win of the people I listed
Evelyn- Did yo really though any of the following people were able to take out Evelyn or her team out? Casey, Paula/Jeff, Wes/Mandi (This one I could have seen either team winning) and ANeesa/Robin.
Emily- Did yo really though any of the following people were able to take out Emily or her team out? Melinda, Paula, Leroy/Naomi, Abram/Cara Maria, Dunbar/Paula. She easily beat all of those girls.
CT- Did yo really though any of the following people were able to take out CT or his team out? Shane, Evan (This one could have been either one games, but according to Johnny B CT have always be great at puzzles), Out shaped Evan/Nehemiah, Leroy I could have seen CT beating him in anything including the uzzle elimination.
Kelly anne- Did yo really though any of the following people were able to take out Kellyanne? Evelyn that wasn't even moving on her elimination was quitting, Veronica that I think is a legend on this shows but wasn't on her best shape on this challenge.
Laurel- Did you really though any of the following people were able to take out Laurel or her team out? Vinny/Sarah, Even though I think Camila is good I still had y money on Laurel, Camila/Theresa same as cutthroat elimination, Jonna/Jasmine on a physical contact LOL, Jasmine again on a physical contact, Aneesa, Cara Maria with a broke hand on a wall elimination and Theresa.
Let see Johnny's
Johnny B- Dunbar, Adam/CT,Mark/Robin, Isaac, Jordan, CT.
One can I argue that a lot of those people were view to fans as that winners before the elimination even started, But I do agree that Johnny B have been lucky in the past and a lot of the rules/eliminations set up have benefited him in some kind of way. I still stand on my opinion that a lot of people still under rated him and he was the one that deserved the Free Agents win over any of those guys the most.
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;439028]Go ahead, he won twice because he was paired with Rachel who was the best woman on that season. Keep on riding on Mark.[/QUOTE]
You realize you just liked a comment by Debut that is essentially saying he knows Mark is a great competitor but just doesn't like him because he considers him the godfather of the show.
How old are you? I ask because this may help explain some things.
You're not making any sense and I hope you realize that.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;439031]You realize you just liked a comment by Debut that is essentially saying he knows Mark is a great competitor but just doesn't like him because he considers him the godfather of the show.
How old are you? I ask because this may help explain some things.
You're not making any sense and I hope you realize that.[/QUOTE]
You're only saying that because I don't agree with you. I don't see what's so amazing about him.
[quote=kvm1977;439027]how is that not true? Did you even watch the first season of road rules when it first aired
the discussion is about [b]him as a competitor. That"s it[/b].[/quote]
no it isn't. You turned it into that!
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;439032]You're only saying that because I don't agree with you. I don't see what's so amazing about him.[/QUOTE]
Because, as you admitted, you only tend to remember eliminations which is why you don't comprehend Mark being a great competitor.
Name 10 better...you made that bold statement...follow through
And how old are you? This isn't an insult this could explain why you disregard any old-school person.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;439031][B]You realize you just liked a comment by Debut that is essentially saying he knows Mark is a great competitor but just doesn't like him because he considers him the godfather of the show.[/B]
How old are you? I ask because this may help explain some things.
You're not making any sense and I hope you realize that.[/QUOTE]
Way to spin my words there pal.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;439033]no it isn't. You turned it into that![/QUOTE]
This entire conversation was about who is overrated and underrated AS COMPETITORS. If you go back to the beginning you would comprehend this but you jump into things without comprehending what you're discussing then attack others when you're wrong. Maybe the fact you ALWAYS do this is why so many believe your arguments lack consistency.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;439036]This entire conversation was about who is overrated and underrated AS COMPETITORS. If you go back to the beginning you would comprehend this but you jump into things without comprehending what you're discussing then attack others when you're wrong. Maybe the fact you ALWAYS do this is why so many believe your arguments lack consistency.[/QUOTE]
You attacked me for giving my opinion about Mark. Pot calling the kettle black much?
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;439038]You attacked me for giving my opinion about Mark. Pot calling the kettle black much?[/QUOTE]
Still waiting for you list of 10...tick tock
And, I didn't attack. I just stated a fact. Facts are never attacks.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;439039]Still waiting for you list of 10...tick tock
And, I didn't attack. I just stated a fact. Facts are never attacks.[/QUOTE]
I don't have to make a list.
[QUOTE]Evelyn- Did yo really though any of the following people were able to take out Evelyn or her team out? Casey, Paula/Jeff, Wes/Mandi (This one I could have seen either team winning) and ANeesa/Robin.
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I think Paula/Jeff and Wes/Mandi could've beaten her(Actually I think that if Wes didn't gas out he and Mandi win that)
[QUOTE]Emily- Did yo really though any of the following people were able to take out Emily or her team out? Melinda, Paula, Leroy/Naomi, Abram/Cara Maria, Dunbar/Paula. She easily beat all of those girls.[/QUOTE]
Abram/Cara Maria and Dunbar/Paula could've beaten her and Ty.
[QUOTE]CT- Did yo really though any of the following people were able to take out CT or his team out? Shane, Evan (This one could have been either one games, but according to Johnny B CT have always be great at puzzles), Out shaped Evan/Nehemiah, Leroy I could have seen CT beating him in anything including the uzzle elimination.[/QUOTE]
Nope Noone could've beaten him.
[QUOTE]Kelly anne- Did yo really though any of the following people were able to take out Kellyanne? Evelyn that wasn't even moving on her elimination was quitting, Veronica that I think is a legend on this shows but wasn't on her best shape on this challenge.
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Evenlyn and Veronica could take her She's not as good as people think she is.
[QUOTE]Laurel- Did you really though any of the following people were able to take out Laurel or her team out? Vinny/Sarah, Even though I think Camila is good I still had y money on Laurel, Camila/Theresa same as cutthroat elimination, Jonna/Jasmine on a physical contact LOL, Jasmine again on a physical contact, Aneesa, Cara Maria with a broke hand on a wall elimination and Theresa.
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Nobody was touching Laurel on Free Agents. Or any of the other seasons she was on.
Let see Johnny's
Johnny B- Dunbar, Adam/CT,Mark/Robin, Isaac, Jordan, CT.
One can I argue that a lot of those people were view to fans as that winners before the elimination even started,[B] But I do agree that Johnny B have been lucky in the past and a lot of the rules/eliminations set up have benefited him in some kind of way[/B]. I still stand on my opinion that a lot of people still under rated him and he was the one that deserved the Free Agents win over any of those guys the most.[/QUOTE]
Finally.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;439041]I know...you refuse to support anything you state[/QUOTE]
You want 10 that's better than him? You got it.
1.Landon
2.CT
3.Darrel
4.Abram
5.Evan
6.Theo Von
7.Dan S.
8.The Miz
9.Timmy
10. Alton
[QUOTE=kvm1977;439036]This entire conversation was about who is overrated and underrated AS COMPETITORS. If you go back to the beginning you would comprehend this but you jump into things without comprehending what you're discussing then attack others when you're wrong. Maybe the fact you ALWAYS do this is why so many believe your arguments lack consistency.[/QUOTE]
I was one of the first ones that said Mark is overrated THEN YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT HIM AS A COMPETITOR WHEN THAT WASN'T EVEN THE POINT! GO BACK AND READ FOR GOD'S SAKE. I didn't jump into ****.
And I don't attack anyone. You're the one who attacks people that don't agree with you.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;439050]I was one of the first ones that said Mark is overrated THEN YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT HIM AS A COMPETITOR WHEN THAT WASN'T EVEN THE POINT! GO BACK AND READ FOR GOD'S SAKE. I didn't jump into ****.
And I don't attack anyone. You're the one who attacks people that don't agree with you.[/QUOTE]
My head hurts...go back and look at what the TOPIC was when you jumped in.
I just point out stupidity...you like to do that as well.
JayTee started this "overrated/underrated" thing...it was ALWAYS about competition during THIS conversation.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;439044]I think Paula/Jeff and Wes/Mandi could've beaten her(Actually I think that if Wes didn't gas out he and Mandi win that)
Abram/Cara Maria and Dunbar/Paula could've beaten her and Ty.
Nope Noone could've beaten him.
Evenlyn and Veronica could take her She's not as good as people think she is.
Nobody was touching Laurel on Free Agents. Or any of the other seasons she was on.
Let see Johnny's
Johnny B- Dunbar, Adam/CT,Mark/Robin, Isaac, Jordan, CT.
One can I argue that a lot of those people were view to fans as that winners before the elimination even started,[B] But I do agree that Johnny B have been lucky in the past and a lot of the rules/eliminations set up have benefited him in some kind of way[/B]. I still stand on my opinion that a lot of people still under rated him and he was the one that deserved the Free Agents win over any of those guys the most.[/QUOTE]
Finally.[/QUOTE]
Cara Maria and Paula beating Emily in anything physical...Never, Puzzles and some thinking involved yes.
I never disagree with you on that, I though you were taking away from his wins.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;439052]My head hurts...go back and look at what the TOPIC was when you jumped in.
I just point out stupidity...you like to do that as well.[/QUOTE]
Yeah The topic that I STARTED! HOW THE HELL DID I JUMP IN WHEN I STARTED THE TOPIC???
Realize your own stupidity before you talk about others.
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;439048]You want 10 that's better than him? You got it.
1.Landon
2.CT
3.Darrel
4.Abram
5.Evan
6.Theo Von
7.Dan S.
8.The Miz
9.Timmy
10. Alton[/QUOTE]
Mark Long is better than Timmy.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;439054]Yeah The topic that I STARTED!
Realize your own stupidity before you talk about others.[/QUOTE]
You didn't start it. At all...go back 5-6 hours--you weren't even HERE
How do you think you started it?
The only thing worse than stupidity is when people that aren't stupid act stupid which is my problem with you
[QUOTE=kvm1977;439052]My head hurts...go back and look at what the TOPIC was when you jumped in.
I just point out stupidity...you like to do that as well.
JayTee started this "overrated/underrated" thing...it was ALWAYS about competition during THIS conversation.[/QUOTE]
I didn't start it. Someone else did and I thought everyone was giving their opinion so I threw out a list.
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