I hate when people say people slid by just because they didn't see an elimination. If they win most of the challenges that season and see no elimination that isn't sliding by....
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;438906]That's your opinion, alliances means your allies can keep you safe so you won't have to do anything.[/QUOTE]
You're so delusional it hurts my eyes. You're acting as if Mark just stands there and does nothing. He's a top performer in the majority of missions he's been in.
I'd say Brad on Cutthroat is the ultimate example of sliding to the end, because he performed poorly throughout the entire season and still won lol. Close runner-ups are Katie, Aneesa, Julie, Robin, and Susie on Gauntlet 2.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;438951]Nobody is faulting him for anything. The point is I HE HAD IT EASY ON THAT CHALLENGE! And that's something that can't be denied. Productions has nothing to do with it.[/QUOTE]
Going to the most elimination rounds for the males, being tie (with Zach/Johnny R) on winning the most mission on that season and going in without his mob wasn't that easy for him. I will say he was the one that fought the most from the guys on that challenge and deserved the win over anyone tehre.
But to each their own, is it his fault that Isaac suck on everything including physcial contact even though he is big? THat Jordan was a morron and volunteer himself on a breaking wall elimination knowing he need it both hands for it? That Production made the last elimination a puzzle contest, which by what I heard CT is better at puzzles than Bananas?
JKE is great at playing the political game and controlling idiots that follow them. But from them I still think that Johnny is the one that always have to fight the hardest to win specially on Free Agents.
I really don't understand the logic of Bananas "slid by" on Free Agents, yet went into 3 elimination rounds and won them? Who [I]didn't[/I] slide by then? On any season? Because if elimination round wins don't mean you earned you spot in the final, what does? Sarah G went into the Gauntlet 5 times and had games in which she could do better than the other players. Does that mean she slid by? According to the aforementioned "logic", yes.
[QUOTE=JEKFAN;438954]I hate when people say people slid by just because they didn't see an elimination. If they win most of the challenges that season and see no elimination that isn't sliding by....[/QUOTE]
I agree, even more pathetic when people say that someone elimination wins doesn't count because he had an advantage over their opponent like I am sorry if other people suck and can't win.
[QUOTE=Youssarian;438958]I really don't understand the logic of Bananas "slid by" on Free Agents, yet went into 3 elimination rounds and won them? Who [I]didn't[/I] slide by then? On any season? Because if elimination round wins don't mean you earned you spot in the final, what does? Sarah G went into the Gauntlet 5 times and had games in which she could do better than the other players. Does that mean she slid by? According to the aforementioned "logic", yes.[/QUOTE]
We never said he slid by on Free Agents, we're saying he had it easy, just like many of the JEK challenge wins.
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;438927]The Island and Rivals 2.[/QUOTE]
LOL the majority of the people on the Island slid by on the challenge because there was no comeptitions but what is funny is Johnny is one of the few people who actually earned his key so he didn't slide by there. On Rivals 2 Frank/Bananas won a lot of the challenges... That isn't sliding by. That is like saying Emily/Paula slid by and didn't earn it when they won most of the challenges.
[QUOTE=JayTee;438955]You're so delusional it hurts my eyes. You're acting as if Mark just stands there and does nothing. He's a top performer in the majority of missions he's been in.[/QUOTE]
He's overrated, end of story. The moment he sees an elimination, he's a goner, just like Danny all the time.
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;438962]He's overrated, end of story. The moment he sees an elimination, he's a goner, just like Danny all the time.[/QUOTE]
He is overrated for YOU and Debul ALbum is an opinion , I disagree I think he is underrated.
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;438962]He's overrated, end of story. The moment he sees an elimination, he's a goner, just like Danny all the time.[/QUOTE]
Are you seriously comparing Mark Long to Danny right now......
[QUOTE=kvm1977;438874]It is a legit win...you don't determine what is and what isn't. A win is a win. Nick sucks. I'd take Ryan on my team any day over Nick and I'm not a fan of Ryan[/QUOTE]
Nick Who ?
[QUOTE=PinkRose;438959]I agree, even more pathetic when people say that someone elimination wins doesn't count because he had an advantage over their opponent like I am sorry if other people suck.[/QUOTE]
Nobody said they didn't count. The point is is that those eliminations he had a HUGE advantage and he came out on top. Let's not pretend that those were hard-earned.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;438959]I agree, even more pathetic when people say that someone elimination wins doesn't count because he had an advantage over their opponent like I am sorry if other people suck.[/QUOTE]
Nobody said they didn't count. The point is is that those eliminations he had a HUGE advantage and he came out on top. Let's not pretend that those were hard-earned.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;438967]Nobody said they didn't count. The point is is that those eliminations he had a HUGE advantage and he came out on top. Let's not pretend that those were hard-earned.[/QUOTE]
Lmao
[QUOTE=PinkRose;438959]I agree, even more pathetic when people say that someone elimination wins doesn't count because he had an advantage over their opponent like I am sorry if other people suck and can't win.[/QUOTE]
Exactly! Issac sucked but Bananas destroyed him. Issac isn't a small guy and Bananas mandhandled him several times. He proved how strong he still is. SMH at people who can't see that.
[QUOTE=toenails;438956]I'd say Brad on Cutthroat is the ultimate example of sliding to the end, because he performed poorly throughout the entire season and still won lol. Close runner-ups are Katie, Aneesa, Julie, Robin, and Susie on Gauntlet 2.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. That's how I define "slide"...no eliminations, didn't do well on challenges, was just kinda there. That's why I don't think Kenny, Evan, and Derrick "slid" on the Ruins...they did really well on challenges, yeah it was against a bad team, but, aside from Derrick messing that one challenge up that they lost, you can't point to another challenge where any of them put in a bad performance. Just because they didn't see an elimination, it doesn't mean they slid.
Sliders:
Jenn/Mandi (won one challenge which was apparently a bs win) on Rivals
Brad on Cutthroat (Sarah and Jenn did well, so I don't put them here, Tori possibly since her elimination was thrown for her and she sucked the rest of the time)
Jenn and Robin on the Island (possibly Kenny, but he played a great political game that show)
Johanna, Rachel, Big Easy on Gauntlet 3
[QUOTE=Debut Album;438947]I didn't say he was irrelevant. I said that he's not as important to this franchise as people think he is. He has some relevance but he isn't this big legend.
And please point out when I've been inconsistent.[/QUOTE]
I'll be sure to reply to any post from now on that contradicts a previous one with that post. We'll start keeping track
Mark is the reason Road Rules made it past the first season.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;438964]He is overrated for YOU and Debul ALbum is an opinion , I disagree I think he is underrated.[/QUOTE]
How is he underrated? People keep saying he's one of the best. We just think he's the most overrated person EVER, especially when he was on 3 challenges that didn't have elimination rounds and were completely different.
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;438974]How is he underrated? People keep saying he's one of the best. We just think he's the most overrated person EVER, especially when he was on 3 challenges that didn't have elimination rounds and were completely different.[/QUOTE]
Are you talking about Mark? Lol I do think he is over rated, I though you were talking about Bananas
[QUOTE=JL81790;438972]Jenn/Mandi (won one challenge which was apparently a bs win) on Rivals[/QUOTE]
What was the story behind their win again? I forgot why their win on the rowing mission was illegitimate.
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;438974]How is he underrated? People keep saying he's one of the best. We just think he's the most overrated person EVER, especially when he was on 3 challenges that didn't have elimination rounds and were completely different.[/QUOTE]
How does there not being eliminations alter his performance?
Eliminations aren't everything
[QUOTE=toenails;438976]What was the story behind their win again? I forgot why their win on the rowing mission was illegitimate.[/QUOTE]
Apparently, according to Evelyn and Cara, they wedged the boat against the wall of the structure that they were underneath for a while which was supposedly against the rules.
I thought it was funny because if you watch the episode their run is edited down to like 5 seconds and barely any of it is them paddling up river...so they really had to have been doing that for a while.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;438968]Nobody said they didn't count. The point is is that those eliminations he had a HUGE advantage and he came out on top. Let's not pretend that those were hard-earned.[/QUOTE]
Jaytee I take back what I say about you a couple days ago, you're not a wall at least sometimes you get other people point of view unlike Debut Album.
Once again just because someone have any advantage over someone it doesn't take anything away from their win. At the end of the day he won fair and square, plus Isaac is kind of muscular and he still was able to man handle him.
So if we go by your logic then any of Evelyn, Laurel, Emily, even CT's eliminations win and to some extend Kellyanne's elimination round wins don't mean they earned their spot in the final? then for you what does?
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