[QUOTE=thefinishlin;438880][B][U]Nany's pretty awful IMO[/U][/B]. She has yet to see a win in an elimination round and is 0-2 with two decent competitors. (I don't know if you call Jonna decent though, she kind of blows.) When I see her step to somebody above average in a physical elimination round much like Jessica did, then I'll give her credit. As far as I'm concerned, she really hasn't shown **** in elimination rounds. I mean come on, she had the fairest playing ground in the elimination round against Cara Maria and Cooke, two really strong girls, and she still lost.[/QUOTE]
I'm glad somebody agrees with me. Nany did win with Dustin in Knots So fast against Trey & Laura though.
[QUOTE=kollanekoer;438887]Nononoo :D sorry for my bad english, obviously not my first language.
I meant is there someone, who everybody agrees that they actually are as good/bad and there aren't someone who thinks otherwise. Like I haven't seen a comment where someone says Landon is overrated :D[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=kvm1977;438883]Nany & Jonna are just "smaller". They're both good competitors that are going to struggle in eliminations. I'd take either on my team over Jessica because both are better daily, aren't as mentally fragile and would do better in a final. For a duel that advantage goes to Jess because she's probably better in eliminations but Jonna & Nany are better.
This is about so much more than eliminations.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I have watched too many of these damn Challenges to know which competitor does good in the daily challenge lol. I only remember eliminations which is why I mainly focus on them. You probably understand since you've been watching since the beginning.
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;438889]I'm glad somebody agrees with me. Nany did win with Dustin in Knots So fast against Trey & Laura though.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, you're right. My boy Dustin ;)
[QUOTE=thefinishlin;438891]Yeah I have watched too many of these damn Challenges to know which competitor does good in the daily challenge lol. I only remember eliminations which is why I mainly focus on them. You probably understand since you've been watching since the beginning.[/QUOTE]
I do. Nany & Jonna are just underrated IMO because neither will ever be great at eliminations. Back in the day, they would have been players that never saw an elimination because they were nice to have on your team at the end.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;438895]Now, your boy is one of the most overrated IMO[/QUOTE]
Hahaha yeah he's not that great. But he's fun as hell to watch on TV and he's a funny *** dude.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;438892]I'm not a fan of Nany but she's not "awful" in any world.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps awful is the wrong word, she's definitely average (maybe slightly above). Nothing more, nothing less.
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;438897]Perhaps awful is the wrong word, she's definitely average (maybe slightly above). Nothing more, nothing less.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I don't know what kind of drugs I'm taking. I just called her average and then pretty awful.
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;438897]Perhaps awful is the wrong word, she's definitely average (maybe slightly above). Nothing more, nothing less.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, she's probably slightly above average. Before her final performance in Free Agents I may have said average but I think that showed a lot. She's solid and someone I'd be fine with as a teammate/partner.
[QUOTE=thefinishlin;438896]Hahaha yeah he's not that great. But he's fun as hell to watch on TV and he's a funny *** dude.[/QUOTE]
The only entertaining thing he has done IMO is his fight with Frank, but other than that I find him kind of bland. I do agree he is a nice dude.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;438888]How so? It doesn't even make sense
Every season he's been on he's either been the best or one of the top 3 guys there
How is he overrated?[/QUOTE]
Because he knows on most seasons he's protect buy his allies, or better yet, kisses *** so he can be part of an alliance, just like JEK (the way they slide into the finals).
I don't think there's very much debate about Evelyn being the best girl. But I think I mentioned that last week and some people said they think that would be Laurel so I don't know.
I think most people agree on Darrell being as good as people say as well.
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;438902]Because he knows on most seasons he's protect buy his allies, or better yet, kisses *** so he can be part of an alliance, just like JEK (the way they slide into the finals).[/QUOTE]
That's game. It has nothing to do with his ability.
Mark's social game is elite and he's an elite athlete. How is that overrated?
This is just stupid.
[QUOTE=thefinishlin;438880]Nany's pretty awful IMO. She has yet to see a win in an elimination round and is 0-2 with two decent competitors. (I don't know if you call Jonna decent though, she kind of blows.) When I see her step to somebody above average in a physical elimination round much like Jessica did, then I'll give her credit. As far as I'm concerned, she really hasn't shown **** in elimination rounds. I mean come on, she had the fairest playing ground in the elimination round against Cara Maria and Cooke, two really strong girls, and she still lost.[/QUOTE]
She won an elimination round on seasons 2...Jessica has never win an elimination round. Funny because to my understanding a lot cast members including Frank that hates her, Laurel, Zach, Knight, Cara, Kenny, Johnny B the list goes on say she is a good competitor and some have even gone as far as saying she is like having another man on your team. When I see any of those people talking as highly they do of Nany as a competitor of Jess, then I would give Jess credit since most of them have seen her compete and they just don't see only 15 minutes of the edit mission of the daily missions that take hours to do. The only thing I have heard of Jess is that she is descent and was lucky on being on the right teams by her so called "friends". Plus Jess have admitted that she doesn't have endurance on podcast, while Nany proved she does on Free Agents final without even working for it.
Alton wasn't descent at least not the one on seasons 2, rumor has it that he did throw that elimination plus he wasn't in the right set of mind. I think Jonna is descent and kind of good if she doesn't break under pressure or is something physical contact wise.
Even on the Grantland podcast Johnny B said that if Nany haven't had the freak out over the spider and the meltdown during the bicycle she probably would have win since Zach kind of screw Laurel with the time.
By the way Nany handle Cara Maria hits on the football mission on Free Agents, Her/Theresa took the win. While Jess if I am not wrong screw it for her and Cara.
I think Nany can be above average if she actually take stuff seriously by training before and during the challenge instead of drinking.
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This is coming from someone that is NOT a huge fan of Nany antics.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;438904]That's game. It has nothing to do with his ability.
Mark's social game is elite and he's an elite athlete. How is that overrated?
This is just stupid.[/QUOTE]
That's your opinion, alliances means your allies can keep you safe so you won't have to do anything.
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;438906]That's your opinion, alliances means your allies can keep you safe so you won't have to do anything.[/QUOTE]
Which would be fine IF he didn't do anything but that's not true. You're not making ANY sense. NONE.
If he's a great competitor then how does being intelligent enough to align with the right people make him overrated?
Yeah, I found Nany's performance on Free Agents to be really impressive because she puts in no extra effort. Same with Laurel, Cara has said a few times that Laurel literally just plays volleyball and does her regular gym routine and nothing extra before going to the show. I should probably admire hard work more, but I kind of like it when people kill it without really trying that hard lol.
Darrell definitely lost some of his shine by going home first on Fresh Meat 2. That was the first season I spoiled for myself and I was SHOCKED when I learned that Darrell went home first.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;438907]Which would be fine IF he didn't do anything but that's not true. You're not making ANY sense. NONE.
If he's a great competitor then how does being intelligent enough to align with the right people make him overrated?[/QUOTE]
Because it keeps him safe so he wouldn't have to do anything, just like Bananas, Evan, and Kenny. Many people here agree with me that Mark is the most overrated competitor. Not to mention half the challenges he went on didn't even have eliminations.
[QUOTE=toenails;438909]Darrell definitely lost some of his shine by going home first on Fresh Meat 2. That was the first season I spoiled for myself and I was SHOCKED when I learned that Darrell went home first.[/QUOTE]
He lost because of a puzzle...I mean, I don't get how that alters his first 5 challenges
[QUOTE=kvm1977;438911]He lost because of a puzzle...I mean, I don't get how that alters his first 5 challenges[/QUOTE]
"lost [I]some[/I] of his shine" =/= "lost [I]all[/I] of his shine"
It doesn't matter why he lost, he still lost. He only won the first Fresh Meat because Aviv did all of the puzzles for him.
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;438910]Because it keeps him safe so he wouldn't have to do anything, just like Bananas, Evan, and Kenny. Many people here agree with me that Mark is the most overrated competitor. Not to mention half the challenges he went on didn't even have eliminations.[/QUOTE]
You're not making any sense...at all. This is the dumbest thing I've ever read and Debut posts on this board.
You have no explanation. You just don't like that he plays a good social game.
He dominated both Battle of the Sexes--dominated. He was never sent in on G2 because he was the best guy on that team. He was never picked for a Duel because he either won the mission or came in second and everyone there was scared to hell of him. They called out Evan & Landon but didn't call out Mark because Mark's more intimidating.
None of this makes any sense at all.
I actually think you're saying Kenny, Evan & Johnny "do nothing" which is just as dumb
I can't stand stupidity...can't stand it. You're not backing up anything. You're just rambling nonsense because you have no ground to stand. I miss Debut Alum and JayTee right now--that's how bad this is
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;438902]Because he knows on most seasons he's protect buy his allies, or better yet, kisses *** so he can be part of an alliance, just like JEK (the way they slide into the finals).[/QUOTE]
When's the last time Johnny slid to the finals?
Last I checked on this season he won four challenges and three eliminations. On Rivals 2 he won challenges, on Exes he won the most challenges and an elimination, same on Rivals 1, same on the Ruins, pulled 3 life shields on Inferno 3...Johnny's never slid.
"Slid" is someone like Rachel or Johanna on Gauntlet 3.
[QUOTE=toenails;438913]"lost [I]some[/I] of his shine" =/= "lost [I]all[/I] of his shine"
It doesn't matter why he lost, he still lost. He only won the first Fresh Meat because Aviv did all of the puzzles for him.[/QUOTE]
What is wrong with people?
How? And it was a partner challenge on top of it.
There's no logic here...none.
Darrell & Aviv still win FM even if she doesn't solve the puzzles
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;438910]Because it keeps him safe so he wouldn't have to do anything, just like Bananas, Evan, and Kenny. Many people here agree with me that Mark is the most overrated competitor. Not to mention half the challenges he went on didn't even have eliminations.[/QUOTE]
And the one challenge he went into elimination he lost. Mark is just not that important to the challenges or just The Real World/Road Rules Franchise in general.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;438917]And the one challenge he went into elimination he lost. Mark is just not that important to the challenges or just The Real World/Road Rules Franchise in general.[/QUOTE]
By lost--you mean threw to Johnny
Not important to the franchise--BMP would disagree
Actually, Mark's the type of person you should love because he never did a bunch of challenges in a row but you're very inconsistent with your claims
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