[QUOTE=JayTee;438814]Yup it sure is about size. That's 6ft1 140lb Nia list to 5'3 110lb Cara Maria...[/QUOTE]
Nia vs Cara Maria they didn't have the rope so you're wrong. the rope did give adavantage to people who had more length.
[QUOTE=Karisa502;438849]I don't see him being a villian at all. I think he gets a bit intense when he is drunk but I think sober he is a nice guy. He should probably not drink at all this Challenge but I am sure production will be pouring down his throat hoping he snaps.[/QUOTE]
Who are you talking about?
So can we all agree that Landon is the overall most athletic competitor on the Challenge? lol and the funny thing is I've never watched him perform. :witless:
I can't believe people tried to say Ryan Kehoe was underrated. He sucks and people know it. He's weak and slow (which is why Big Easy was picked before him on Fresh Meat). His only elimination wins were handed to him by luck. He's just another waste of a spot just like Big Easy.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;438710]I think people are giving Cara too much credit. She gave one good performance after SIX seasons of mediocrity with great partners too. I think Sarah is a great competitor. I can't remember a season she performed poorly, one of the best females on the Ruins, Cutthroat, and the best on Seasons.
I would say Emily S and Leroy are overrated.[/QUOTE]
Cara Maria is like 8-4 in eliminations, and one of the loses was because of Abram. She beat the likes of Mandi, Theresa & Camila, Jasmine & Jonna, Lacey, Anastasia, Jessica, Nany & Jonna, Nia, and LaToya. Not that bad of a list, some pretty good competitors. Her loses are to really good competitors too: Laurel, Emily, Chet and Sarah (at a puzzle) and Jill/Pete. Is she overrated? Maybe. But she's definitely not bad. She just keeps taking names in the win column.
[QUOTE=thefinishlin;438861]Cara Maria is like 8-4 in eliminations, and one of the loses was because of Abram. She beat the likes of Mandi, Theresa & Camila, Jasmine & Jonna, Lacey, Anastasia, Jessica, Nany & Jonna, Nia, and LaToya. Not that bad of a list, some pretty good competitors. Her loses are to really good competitors too: Laurel, Emily, Chet and Sarah (at a puzzle) and Jill/Pete. Is she overrated? Maybe. But she's definitely not bad. She just keeps taking names in the win column.[/QUOTE]
A lot of those wins came with an elite partner and she's mentally weak
She's above average not great like some make her out to be
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;438859]I can't believe people tried to say Ryan Kehoe was underrated. He sucks and people know it. He's weak and slow (which is why Big Easy was picked before him on Fresh Meat). His only elimination wins were handed to him by luck. He's just another waste of a spot just like Big Easy.[/QUOTE]
He beat Nick legitimately.
Saying he sucks would make him underrated. He's average to slightly below.
[QUOTE=riggins;438769]Battle of the Exes was a stellar season for Emily imo. She basically carried Ty the entire way. Especially for this to only be her second season of the show, she made a name for herself as someone to be feared in eliminations and missions. It was said like 4 times that having Emily on your team is like having another guy, which is exactly what people used to say about Ev and Laurel in their first few seasons.[/QUOTE]
Are we watching the same show!? In the elimination round against Abram and Cara, Ty beat a great competitor at something physical. He also did his job against Dunbar and Paula. I wouldn't say he was carried.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;438865]He beat Nick legitimately.
Saying he sucks would make him underrated. He's average to slightly below.[/QUOTE]
He beat a guy with a broken hand and the elimination involved using both of your hands. If The Movement didn't have his hand broken, Ryan would have lost.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;438863]A lot of those wins came with an elite partner and she's mentally weak
She's above average not great like some make her out to be[/QUOTE]
I will give you that, she always had great partners. But you can't deny the fact that she did really well on Free Agents. She beat Nia who's going to be a good competitor in the future, just watch. She beat LaToya, ehhh. And she beat Jessica who proved she can put up a fight. I would also rank Jessica above average. Average IMO is somebody like Nany.
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;438867]He beat a guy with a broken hand and the elimination involved using both of your hands. If The Movement didn't have his hand broken, Ryan would have lost.[/QUOTE]
I think Ryan could have beat Nick regardless
[QUOTE=thefinishlin;438868]I will give you that, she always had great partners. But you can't deny the fact that she did really well on Free Agents. She beat Nia who's going to be a good competitor in the future, just watch. She beat LaToya, ehhh. And she beat Jessica who proved she can put up a fight. I would also rank Jessica above average. Average IMO is somebody like Nany.[/QUOTE]
We don't know what Nia's going to be but that could be true. Jessica's not above average IMO.
TO clarify, I didn't say Cara was average...I said above average. Cara > Nany as COMPETITORS. Nany's better at the game.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;438869]I think Ryan could have beat Nick regardless[/QUOTE]
No he wouldn't, he knew his hand was broken and would hinder him in a elimination. It's still not a legitimate win.
[QUOTE=thefinishlin;438861]Cara Maria is like 8-4 in eliminations, and one of the loses was because of Abram. She beat the likes of Mandi, Theresa & Camila, Jasmine & Jonna, Lacey, Anastasia, Jessica, Nany & Jonna, Nia, and LaToya. Not that bad of a list, some pretty good competitors. Her loses are to really good competitors too: Laurel, Emily, Chet and Sarah (at a puzzle) and Jill/Pete. Is she overrated? Maybe. But she's definitely not bad. She just keeps taking names in the win column.[/QUOTE]
Anessa is also 8-4 and she is by no means good. She also lost her round so how is that on Abe? Beating Mandi, Anastasia, Jasmine, Latoya is supposed to be impressive stats? A few of those were partner ones as well as Camila would pretty easily beat Cara.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;438872]Anessa is also 8-4 and she is by no means good. She also lost her round so how is that on Abe? Beating Mandi, Anastasia, Jasmine, Latoya is supposed to be impressive stats? A few of those were partner ones as well as Camila would pretty easily beat Cara.[/QUOTE]
Aneesa's good in eliminations and has greatly improved over the years overall
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;438871]No he wouldn't, he knew his hand was broken and would hinder him in a elimination. It's still not a legitimate win.[/QUOTE]
It is a legit win...you don't determine what is and what isn't. A win is a win. Nick sucks. I'd take Ryan on my team any day over Nick and I'm not a fan of Ryan
[QUOTE=thefinishlin;438868]I will give you that, she always had great partners. But you can't deny the fact that she did really well on Free Agents. She beat Nia who's going to be a good competitor in the future, just watch. She beat LaToya, ehhh. And she beat Jessica who proved she can put up a fight. I would also rank [B]Jessica above average. Average IMO is somebody like Nany.[/B][/QUOTE]
lmaoooooo I would rank Nany over Jessica, which both are average but Nany is better than her.
OPinions are like *******s everyone has one.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;438874]It is a legit win...you don't determine what is and what isn't. A win is a win. Nick sucks. I'd take Ryan on my team any day over Nick and I'm not a fan of Ryan[/QUOTE]
Beating someone who was handicapped at the time is not impressive and shouldn't count as a win, The Movement may suck (we didn't get to see him do much), but Ryan himself is usually someone you would want to get rid of first.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;438872]Anessa is also 8-4 and she is by no means good. She also lost her round so how is that on Abe? Beating Mandi, Anastasia, Jasmine, Latoya is supposed to be impressive stats? A few of those were partner ones as well as Camila would pretty easily beat Cara.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I know, I ****ed up by saying she lost because of Abe, I listed Emily as the good competitors she lost to. And I never mentioned beating Mandi, Ana, Jasmine and LaToya is impressive, hell I never said anything about her wins being impressive. And I think Cara would smoke Camila in any of the elimination rounds from Free Agents. If Theresa could beat Camila in one of the most physically demanding eliminations than Cara definitely could IMO.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;438875]lmaoooooo I would rank Nany over Jessica, which both are average but Nany is better.
OPinions are like *******s everyone has one.[/QUOTE]
Nany's pretty awful IMO. She has yet to see a win in an elimination round and is 0-2 with two decent competitors. (I don't know if you call Jonna decent though, she kind of blows.) When I see her step to somebody above average in a physical elimination round much like Jessica did, then I'll give her credit. As far as I'm concerned, she really hasn't shown **** in elimination rounds. I mean come on, she had the fairest playing ground in the elimination round against Cara Maria and Cooke, two really strong girls, and she still lost.
[QUOTE=kollanekoer;438879]So underrated/overrated... are there cast who actually are that good what people think and there isn't conflict? Landon comes to mind[/QUOTE]
...What!?
[QUOTE=kollanekoer;438879]So underrated/overrated... are there cast who actually are that good what people think and there isn't conflict? Landon comes to mind[/QUOTE]
It's already established that Mark is the most overrated of all time.
[QUOTE=thefinishlin;438880]Nany's pretty awful IMO. She has yet to see a win in an elimination round and is 0-2 with two decent competitors. (I don't know if you call Jonna decent though, she kind of blows.) When I see her step to somebody above average in a physical elimination round much like Jessica did, then I'll give her credit. As far as I'm concerned, she really hasn't shown **** in elimination rounds. I mean come on, she had the fairest playing ground in the elimination round against Cara Maria and Cooke, two really strong girls, and she still lost.[/QUOTE]
Nany & Jonna are just "smaller". They're both good competitors that are going to struggle in eliminations. I'd take either on my team over Jessica because both are better daily, aren't as mentally fragile and would do better in a final. For a duel that advantage goes to Jess because she's probably better in eliminations but Jonna & Nany are better.
This is about so much more than eliminations.
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;438882]It's already established that Mark is the most overrated of all time.[/QUOTE]
No, it isn't. That's absolute nonsense. Mark has never performed poorly. Not once.
He's not the best of all-time but he's among the best.
[QUOTE=thefinishlin;438881]...What!?[/QUOTE]
That was asking "who is there a consensus about?"
Basically, almost everyone thinks Landon is one of the best ever. Evelyn also falls into that category. After that it is a ****show
[QUOTE=kvm1977;438884]No, it isn't. That's absolute nonsense. Mark has never performed poorly. Not once.
He's not the best of all-time but he's among the best.[/QUOTE]
I never said he performed poorly, I said he's overrated.
Nononoo :D sorry for my bad english, obviously not my first language.
I meant is there someone, who everybody agrees that they actually are as good/bad and there aren't someone who thinks otherwise. Like I haven't seen a comment where someone says Landon is overrated :D
[QUOTE=TheBestBully;438886]I never said he performed poorly, I said he's overrated.[/QUOTE]
How so? It doesn't even make sense
Every season he's been on he's either been the best or one of the top 3 guys there
How is he overrated?
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