The Challenge: Generic Thread

You want to talk about Camila's winning streak on Cutthroat, just go look at Jillian's streak on Gauntlet 3. She's a little beast and smart too. And Ryan K. proved he can roll with men twice as big as him. He doesn't quit like Preston because it's a tough mission (the rugby mission) and even though Nick hurt his hand he still had at least 15-20lbs of muscle on Ryan K. And people shouldnt discredit Theresa's win. Camila was on the floor the whole time while Theresa was actually moving and bear crawling. She would have won regardless.

[QUOTE=wildcat777;438778]the thing about Cara Maria that people aren't mentioning is that she has gotten better and better EVERY single challenge she has done. So if we're talking about old challenges then yeah she wasn't anything too special but she was actually really good in rivals 2 (idk why people are saying otherwise) and free agents she honestly was the best female there (maybe besides laurel)... i can promise you one things NO girl wants to have to go face her at all and ESPECIALLY in an elimination[/QUOTE] How was she good on rivals 2: 69 challenge: she was basically carried Mind Over Splatter: good Stumped: Can't really remember Frog Smash: she fell while Cooke completed Frenemies: she did good Blind Challenge: horrible Swingers: Pathetic Rampage: she was holding Cooke back a lot Color Correction: they won She individually did decent at best in this season

[QUOTE=kollanekoer;438779]Really? HORRIBLE? I do not think we have watched the same show tbh[/QUOTE] I agree we are not watching the same show, If you think Cara is an above decent competitor, you're probably watching some other ****. FM2: The girl said "Can you guys stop partying, I want to go to sleep" and she obviously still has the same mentality on FA, she basically stopped being friends with Camila for a while just because of her fight with Nany. Cutthroat: She was the weak link on the Gray team and if Abram wasn't there she would probably have went home, he even admitted it Rivals: her team was actually very impressive but mainly due to Laurel Exes: I dare you to find a mission where she decent in, she was basically holding Abe back. H O R R I B L E Seasons: she wasn't given the opportunity to compete that much (due to fat Easy) but losing to Marie in the first 5 seconds... Rivals 2: Again she was holding her partner back in the majority of the missions Free Agents: The only season where she actually surprised me and held her own but her *****ing and complaining is really annoying

[QUOTE=nevidcm;438797]I would have wanted to camila in her right state of mind on her elimination with Theresa. I feel like because she was saying that she gave up, people are discrediting Theresa's win. She won fair and square, and I think she would have still beaten Camila no matter the circumstances.[/QUOTE] If the rope wasn't added to the elimination round, I think Camila would have won

[QUOTE=JayTee;438799]And Ryan K. proved he can roll with men twice as big as him. He doesn't quit like Preston because it's a tough mission (the rugby mission) and even though Nick hurt his hand he still had at least 15-20lbs of muscle on Ryan K. [/QUOTE] This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on Vevmo.. Ryan "proved he can roll with men twice as big as him"? Really? I will give him credit for not quitting the rugby mission but let's be honest, simply competing doesn't make you a good competitor. Ahe was eliminated in episode two, and all he did in the second mission was push ice with Jenn on it and he didn't do well at all. I doubt Preston would've quit, not sure why you picked Preston as the quitter anyways? He showed a lot of heart by not quitting the first mission on Seasons 2 and I only remember him quitting a challenge because he didn't want to be in Knights crotch. Wes also quit that mission, is he overrated too? Or is Preston just the compatible because he quit one mission and is also gay? Ryan would've lost to Nick had he been able to use both his hands, he did pretty well with a broken hand. And Knight sucks as well. He gets on power players good sides because he's a fun guy to have around, but he is also one of the easiest people to beat. Is he the worst competitor? No, but I wouldn't want him on my team.

At the end of the elimination round Camila vs Theresa Camila starting crying and said that she is more upset that she gave up then about losing. Basically Camila lost on purpose bc she had family issues at home. I don't credit Theresa with that win at all. But even if she didn't give up that elimination is about size not anything else

[QUOTE=JayTee;438799]You want to talk about Camila's winning streak on Cutthroat, just go look at Jillian's streak on Gauntlet 3. She's a little beast and smart too. And Ryan K. proved he can roll with men twice as big as him. He doesn't quit like Preston because it's a tough mission (the rugby mission) and even though Nick hurt his hand he still had at least 15-20lbs of muscle on Ryan K. And people shouldnt discredit Theresa's win. Camila was on the floor the whole time while Theresa was actually moving and bear crawling. She would have won regardless.[/QUOTE] People usually mention how she did in the missions that season, not eliminations. The rope made that much easier for someone Theresa's size, as well as Camila already not giving her all.

[QUOTE=Morris1721;438804]This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on Vevmo.. Ryan "proved he can roll with men twice as big as him"? Really? I will give him credit for not quitting the rugby mission but let's be honest, simply competing doesn't make you a good competitor. Ahe was eliminated in episode two, and all he did in the second mission was push ice with Jenn on it and he didn't do well at all. I doubt Preston would've quit, not sure why you picked Preston as the quitter anyways? He showed a lot of heart by not quitting the first mission on Seasons 2 and I only remember him quitting a challenge because he didn't want to be in Knights crotch. Wes also quit that mission, is he overrated too? Or is Preston just the compatible because he quit one mission and is also gay? Ryan would've lost to Nick had he been able to use both his hands, he did pretty well with a broken hand. And Knight sucks as well. He gets on power players good sides because he's a fun guy to have around, but he is also one of the easiest people to beat. Is he the worst competitor? No, but I wouldn't want him on my team.[/QUOTE] If this is the most ridiculous thing you've ever read you must have missed the day when Debut Album compared Nate and Priscilla to Darrell and Rachel. I never once said Ryan Kehoe was great. I said he's underrated. The dude doesn't quit and has a lot fight in him, even if it's going up against the big dogs. I don't see Preston ever doing that. And you're seriously comparing Wes to either of these 2? Are you serious right now? Preston who has done 3 challenges deserves to be included in the same sentence as WES? I'm rethinking ever replying to you. And what does being gay have to do with anything??? In defending Ryan Kehoe who is ALSO gay! Are you insecure? Are you the type to resort to name calling because you don't get things your way? What the hell does someone being gay have to do with any of this? Maybe, but Ryan still did very well for someone as skinny as he is. Completely your opinion.

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;438806]People usually mention how she did in the missions that season, not eliminations. The rope made that much easier for someone Theresa's size, as well as Camila already not giving her all.[/QUOTE] They both grabbed the rope practically at the same time though?

Ryan Kehoe? Really now? Him and his sideburns can get lost. I can't stand him.

[QUOTE=ibeedevinyo;438805]At the end of the elimination round Camila vs Theresa Camila starting crying and said that she is more upset that she gave up then about losing. Basically Camila lost on purpose bc she had family issues at home. I don't credit Theresa with that win at all. But even if she didn't give up that elimination is about size not anything else[/QUOTE] Yup it sure is about size. That's 6ft1 140lb Nia list to 5'3 110lb Cara Maria...

[QUOTE=JayTee;438810]If this is the most ridiculous thing you've ever read you must have missed the day when Debut Album compared Nate and Priscilla to Darrell and Rachel. I never once said Ryan Kehoe was great. I said he's underrated. The dude doesn't quit and has a lot fight in him, even if it's going up against the big dogs. I don't see Preston ever doing that. And you're seriously comparing Wes to either of these 2? Are you serious right now? Preston who has done 3 challenges deserves to be included in the same sentence as WES? I'm rethinking ever replying to you. And what does being gay have to do with anything??? In defending Ryan Kehoe who is ALSO gay! Are you insecure? Are you the type to resort to name calling because you don't get things your way? What the hell does someone being gay have to do with any of this? Maybe, but Ryan still did very well for someone as skinny as he is. Completely your opinion.[/QUOTE] Franchise isn't over yet dude. Lay off Preston.

[QUOTE=Nostalgic;438812]Ryan Kehoe? Really now? Him and his sideburns can get lost. I can't stand him.[/QUOTE] Lol his sideburns are hilarious to look at, but I'm just saying he's underrated as a competitor. I'm completely ignoring his personality because it has nothing to do with his athletic and mental ability.

Svetlana is definitely overrated. Production literally changed the rules of Push Me so that she could "win" against Beth in the duel; Svetlana should not have made it to the final.

Ruthie is also another one who is very overrated. She was unable to make the transition from vote-off format to elimination round format. Once the Challenges became more physically demanding, Ruthie just couldn't hang.

[QUOTE=JayTee;438814]Yup it sure is about size. That's 6ft1 140lb Nia list to 5'3 110lb Cara Maria...[/QUOTE] They had no rope as leverage. If Camila/Theresa had used the same format, that woukd have went on for much longer.

[QUOTE=JayTee;438816]Lol his sideburns are hilarious to look at, but I'm just saying he's underrated as a competitor. I'm completely ignoring his personality because it has nothing to do with his athletic and mental ability.[/QUOTE] If that's the case in part to the last part of your post then I love Laurel....

[QUOTE=JayTee;438770][U]Underrated:[/U] Males: Ryan Kehoe[/QUOTE] Is the world coming to an end? Do I actually, wholeheartedly, 100% agree with you on something? ;) I think Ryan's best performance was on Gauntlet 3. He was a very solid competitor on that season. I do think Jillian is a tad overrated. I think she's definitely very athletic and a good competitor, and has proved that many times. But her Gauntlet wins weren't really impressive. She beat Brooke... okay, anyone can do that. She almost lost to [I]Angel[/I]. She did very well against Janelle, but Janelle also ran at like 0.000002 miles per hour in that Gauntlet. It was almost like she wasn't even trying. I think people look at the number of Gauntlets she won and say "Wow!" but don't look at who she faced or how exactly she did. Also, on the Gauntlet 2 Easy Does It mission, she got the full time penalty for her team. Know who else got the full time penalty for not being able to pull themselves up a rope ladder? Katie, Beth, Aneesa, and Ibis. She also had awful communication skills in the Blind Trust mission. I will concede that besides those instances, she held her weight every other mission. Even in her Gauntlet against Kina, I thought she did okay. Well, in all of Kina's offense rounds, Kina literally bowled Jillian over in one second... but when Jillian was on offense, she put up a great fight and even managed to make a point. I can't talk about her FM2 performance because I haven't seen it in 5 years lol. But I will say that she killed in the faceoff against South Pacific on her Road Rules season. She was great then. I'm not saying she's bad by any means. She has proven that she is tough and can compete well, but I don't think she's as good as everyone thinks.

[QUOTE=toenails;438821]Ruthie is also another one who is very overrated. She was unable to make the transition from vote-off format to elimination round format. Once the Challenges became more physically demanding, Ruthie just couldn't hang.[/QUOTE] I mean there was no way she or anyone her size coukd beat Beth in Reverse Tug of War and Kim his outsmarted her on Duel 2. She beat Rachel of all people in something physically demanding so I don think that is the problem.

[QUOTE=bonesj0nes;438723]If you replace all the "Leroy"s with "Zach" it's the exact same thing.[/QUOTE] I don't understand your comment. are you saying their the same level?

[QUOTE=mickeyflo24;438827]I don't understand your comment. are you saying their the same level?[/QUOTE] I think they're saying both Leroy and Zach are overrated.

Zach was pretty good on F.A besides the final. Him and bananas were the best performers that season.

[QUOTE=nevidcm;438730]Overrated competitors: Sarah Theresa (has potential though) Cara Maria (she sucked on Rivals 2 and brought down Cooke with her, though she shined on Free Agents) Kellyanne (also has potential) Ashley K. (never understood all the hype with her) Susie Nany Mark (has to be the most overrated competitor ever) Leroy Zach Jordan Dustin Alton (again, never understood the hype with him) Underrated competitors: Marie Jemmye Ayiiia Kimberly Cara Z. Tonya Julie Mandi Frank S. Bananas (people still doubt his abilities after winning five seasons) Johnny R. Preston I'm not saying the people that I mentiones are bad competitors, but people think so highly of them and I just don't see what all the fuzz is about.[/QUOTE] I disagree with Zach, he dominated or did well in almost every single challenge on Free Agents. remember when he knocked CT and like two other guys to the ground in that 'soccer' challenge.

[QUOTE=toenails;438818]Svetlana is definitely overrated. Production literally changed the rules of Push Me so that she could "win" against Beth in the duel; Svetlana should not have made it to the final.[/QUOTE] Well no, beth pulled off the flag from the carabeiner (sp) and didn't unclip it as per the rules. Same rule that got CT

[QUOTE=auldx;438838]Well no, beth pulled off the flag from the carabeiner (sp) and didn't unclip it as per the rules. Same rule that got CT[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure production had a meeting on the spot and decided at the last second to include the carabiner rule.

[QUOTE=auldx;438838]Well no, beth pulled off the flag from the carabeiner (sp) and didn't unclip it as per the rules. Same rule that got CT[/QUOTE] You don't know the full story. While Beth did rip the flag out, after Svetlana got off the pole, Beth waited a couple of minutes to make sure that she had quit. After pushing the pole forward, I guess some people encouraged Svetlana to keep going and she went back to the pole and shook it a bit, which caused Beth to rip the flag out. Production then had a meeting for 45 minutes to decide what to do. They decided that Svetlana staying was a better story and declared her the winner. Beth essentially won because Svetlana had given up, to which Beth assumed was pretty much a forfeit, hence the fact that she waited a minute to make sure that she did in fact give up.

Beth is the master of quitting Challenges. She could have beaten any of the girls from the Good Guys team in an inferno, but she quit. She could have beaten Aneesa in Beach Brawl, but she quit. She could have beaten Coral in Ball Brawl, but she quit. I don't get why Beth squandered every opportunity she got to succeed. She's a strong competitor but I guess she just really enjoys the rush of quitting...

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;438772]They both screwed up though, Exes was a breakout season for Em I would say.[/QUOTE] And for Ty also. he beat Abram in something physical. he's a decent swimmer and runner, and never gave up or gassed out.

[QUOTE=toenails;438843]Beth is the master of quitting Challenges. She could have beaten any of the girls from the Good Guys team in an inferno, but she quit. She could have beaten Aneesa in Beach Brawl, but she quit. She could have beaten Coral in Ball Brawl, but she quit. I don't get why Beth squandered every opportunity she got to succeed. She's a strong competitor but I guess she just really enjoys the rush of quitting...[/QUOTE] I don't think she cares, she is just there to cause drama and when she sees she has done enough, she leaves lol. I think V1 said had she known Coral would quit, she would have tried to stay.

[QUOTE=PinkRose;438593]Other than Laurel/Cara Maria and to some really small extend Theresa for her stupid moves, Fresh Meat 2 members never did that.[/QUOTE] I don't see him being a villian at all. I think he gets a bit intense when he is drunk but I think sober he is a nice guy. He should probably not drink at all this Challenge but I am sure production will be pouring down his throat hoping he snaps.