Another competitor that is extremely overated is Svetlana. She was good on the Duel, but it seemed like production wanted her to win so bad.
Also, it baffles me to see Mark in people's top 5 competitors lists. I sometimes ask myself if we're wathching the same show.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;438754]He has earned every win. He always performs well on every season and fone into an elimination round at least once. He can't be faulted for having allies as everyone does.[/QUOTE]
I do not think he really 'earned' Rivals win. I think the next day fopa was just disaster.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;438710]I think people are giving Cara too much credit. She gave one good performance after SIX seasons of mediocrity with great partners too. I think Sarah is a great competitor. I can't remember a season she performed poorly, one of the best females on the Ruins, Cutthroat, and the best on Seasons.
I would say Emily S and Leroy are overrated.[/QUOTE]
she was barely an average competitor, she did horrible on Cutthroat, FM2, Exes AND Rivals 2 in the missions.
Saying Emily S. is overrated is unbelievable. People get afraid just by hearing her name in an elimination round, look at Paula, Camila, Diem, Cara...
[QUOTE=kollanekoer;438760]I do not think he really 'earned' Rivals win. I think the next day fopa was just disaster.[/QUOTE]
He and Tyler were still much better in the missions than Wes/Kenny.
[QUOTE=DarkFights;438761]she was barely an average competitor, she did horrible on Cutthroat, FM2, Exes AND Rivals 2 in the missions.
Saying Emily S. is overrated is unbelievable. People get afraid just by hearing her name in an elimination round, look at Paula, Camila, Diem, Cara...[/QUOTE]
Because they know how risky it is as if it is physical they will likely lose. She truly is, she did very well on Rivals 2 when we had horrible teams or girls who were held back by partners. Her other two seasons were really nothing too write home about. And to respond to another reply, Sarah is a lot more well rounded than Emily.
[QUOTE=nevidcm;438753]I think she outperformed Cara Maria (which a lot of people think it's great) in a couple of missions on Cutthroat and lost in an elimination which consisted on slapping the opponent with a fly swatter (which requieres almost no ability)[/QUOTE]
Cara sucked on cutthroat so thar's nothing to be proud of
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;438765]Cara sucked on cutthroat so thar's nothing to be proud of[/QUOTE]
When did Cara Maria suck on Cutthroat? Im legitimately asking bc I don't remember a lot of the mi $ Simons that season but I definitely didn't think she was that bad. The only time I remember her doing bad was the balancing mission.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;438764]Because they know how risky it is as if it is physical they will likely lose. She truly is, she did very well on Rivals 2 when we had horrible teams or girls who were held back by partners. Her other two seasons were really nothing too write home about. And to respond to another reply, Sarah is a lot more well rounded than Emily.[/QUOTE]
Battle of the Exes was a stellar season for Emily imo. She basically carried Ty the entire way. Especially for this to only be her second season of the show, she made a name for herself as someone to be feared in eliminations and missions. It was said like 4 times that having Emily on your team is like having another guy, which is exactly what people used to say about Ev and Laurel in their first few seasons.
[QUOTE=riggins;438769]Battle of the Exes was a stellar season for Emily imo. She basically carried Ty the entire way. Especially for this to only be her second season of the show, she made a name for herself as someone to be feared in eliminations and missions. It was said like 4 times that having Emily on your team is like having another guy, which is exactly what people used to say about Ev and Laurel in their first few seasons.[/QUOTE]
They both screwed up though, Exes was a breakout season for Em I would say.
[QUOTE=JayTee;438770][U]Overated
[/U]Males:
Jamie (Gauntlet 2 Jamie)
Alton
Nehemiah
My boy ROYLEE (even though he's a fav)
Zach
Chet
Females:
KellyAnne
Kimberly
Aneesa (horrible competitor)
Svetlana
Jonna
McKenzie
Camila
[U]Underrated:[/U]
Males:
Ryan Kehoe
Johnny Riley
CJ
Knight
Females:
Theresa
Ashley Kelsea
Veronica
Jillian[/QUOTE]
Can you explain some of these?
Chet and overrated? I feel like everybody are saying he is like worst male ever or something, altho he did good at BOTS2 and other challenges decent.
CJ was underrated at FM2 but after BOTS2 there are still people who think he isn't good?
Some people think that Chet would do sooooo well in a final because he "runs" and is skinny. The dude sucks and always will suck.
CJ is still seen as just a decent competitor by some people. He proved himself on BOTS2 on a number of occasions but people would still say that someone like Alton is better.
the thing about Cara Maria that people aren't mentioning is that she has gotten better and better EVERY single challenge she has done. So if we're talking about old challenges then yeah she wasn't anything too special but she was actually really good in rivals 2 (idk why people are saying otherwise) and free agents she honestly was the best female there (maybe besides laurel)... i can promise you one things NO girl wants to have to go face her at all and ESPECIALLY in an elimination
[QUOTE=DarkFights;438761]she was barely an average competitor, she did horrible on Cutthroat, FM2, Exes AND Rivals 2 in the missions.
Saying Emily S. is overrated is unbelievable. People get afraid just by hearing her name in an elimination round, look at Paula, Camila, Diem, Cara...[/QUOTE]
Really? HORRIBLE? I do not think we have watched the same show tbh
[QUOTE=kollanekoer;438779]Really? HORRIBLE? I do not think we have watched the same show tbh[/QUOTE]
I assume he is talking about Cara and is not wrong IMO.
[QUOTE=JayTee;438770][U]Overated
[/U]Males:
Jamie (Gauntlet 2 Jamie)
Alton
Nehemiah
My boy ROYLEE (even though he's a fav)
Zach
Chet
Females:
KellyAnne
Kimberly
Aneesa (horrible competitor)
Svetlana
Jonna
McKenzie
Camila
[U]Underrated:[/U]
Males:
Ryan Kehoe
Johnny Riley
CJ
Knight
Females:
Theresa
Ashley Kelsea
Veronica
Jillian[/QUOTE]
Knight is terrible......
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;438784]I assume he is talking about Cara and is not wrong IMO.[/QUOTE]
He was and IMO he is. Horrible is a last word I would use to describe her. 'Decent' maybe, 'not as good she is now' but HORRIBLE? No. Casey is horrible, Katelynn is horrible, not Cara. Or you dare to put her in the same bout with them?
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;438783]The underrated males and all the females except McKenzie.[/QUOTE]
Ryan Kehoe (aside from FM1 and Island) proved himself on Duel 2 and FM2. He goes out there and performs. Yeah he's skinny but he has a lot of fight in him. I've seen more fight in him than other skinny guys like Adam King or Chet.
I already talked about CJ in a post above.
Riley is still seen as not a threat just because he never went into an elimination. The dude beat King Bananas up a volcano. He also did decent with Devyn as his partner just like Bananas did.
Knight knows how to stay in the shadows and get on the power players good side. He's got the political aspect on lock. We'll see a lot more of what Knight can offer on Season 26. Until then, I think he's underrated due to the fact that some people think he's one of the worst (in the rankings of big easy and Tyrie).
Theresa is still seen as underrated by many people. You have people thinking someone like Camila is miles beyond Theresa when she really isn't. Theresa beat her in an endurance/power elimination. Theresa did awesome in the final mission on FA with Zach which needed a lot of endurance. She could have been a D1 basketball player if she wanted to and also outperformed her partner Ryan (who's also underrated) on FM2 in the exile which is like a mini final. Theresa would kill it in a final.
Jillian, although winning Gauntlet 3 and getting 3rd on FM2, is underrated because her name never comes up meanwhile you have other small chicks like Ruthie always coming up whenever someone is talking about a small ***-kicker. I think Jillian deserves more credit than what people give her.
Ashley Kelsea proved a lot more than any female other than Sarah on BOTS2. She beat Jonna in an endurance elimination, her team was ahead of Zito&Trashelle (2 endurance runners) even though they had Sam on her team. She was a sleeper. I wouldn't say she's great because she lacks intensity, but I would definitely say she's good due to holding her own weight throughout BOTS2 and winning the final.
Veronica is still underrated by some people. I think she's a legend and has proven herself on more than one occasion. People like to judge her just because they don't like her personality, but I'm not judging people based on whether I like them or not here. I'm judging them based on what I've seen overall. It's kind of like the Jillian situation: people love to talk about Ruthie but rarely mention Veronica or Jillian.
[QUOTE=kollanekoer;438787]He was and IMO he is. Horrible is a last word I would use to describe her. 'Decent' maybe, 'not as good she is now' but HORRIBLE? No. Casey is horrible, Katelynn is horrible, not Cara. Or you dare to put her in the same bout with them?[/QUOTE]
They are different levels of horrible. Cara wasn't even decent on Cutthroat or Rivals 2.
[QUOTE=JayTee;438788]Ryan Kehoe (aside from FM1 and Island) proved himself on Duel 2 and FM2. He goes out there and performs. Yeah he's skinny but he has a lot of fight in him. I've seen more fight in him than other skinny guys like Adam King or Chet.
I already talked about CJ in a post above.
Riley is still seen as not a threat just because he never went into an elimination. The dude beat King Bananas up a volcano. He also did decent with Devyn as his partner just like Bananas did.
Knight knows how to stay in the shadows and get on the power players good side. He's got the political aspect on lock. We'll see a lot more of what Knight can offer on Season 26. Until then, I think he's underrated due to the fact that some people think he's one of the worst (in the rankings of big easy and Tyrie).
Theresa is still seen as underrated by many people. You have people thinking someone like Camila is miles beyond Theresa when she really isn't. Theresa beat her in an endurance/power elimination. Theresa did awesome in the final mission on FA with Zach which needed a lot of endurance. She could have been a D1 basketball player if she wanted to and also outperformed her partner Ryan (who's also underrated) on FM2 in the exile which is like a mini final. Theresa would kill it in a final.
Jillian, although winning Gauntlet 3 and getting 3rd on FM2, is underrated because her name never comes up meanwhile you have other small chicks like Ruthie always coming up whenever someone is talking about a small ***-kicker. I think Jillian deserves more credit than what people give her.
Ashley Kelsea proved a lot more than any female other than Sarah on BOTS2. She beat Jonna in an endurance elimination, her team was ahead of Zito&Trashelle (2 endurance runners) even though they had Sam on her team. She was a sleeper. I wouldn't say she's great because she lacks intensity, but I would definitely say she's good due to holding her own weight throughout BOTS2 and winning the final.
Veronica is still underrated by some people. I think she's a legend and has proven herself on more than one occasion. People like to judge her just because they don't like her personality, but I'm not judging people based on whether I like them or not here. I'm judging them based on what I've seen overall. It's kind of like the Jillian situation: people love to talk about Ruthie but rarely mention Veronica or Jillian.[/QUOTE]
Well Theresa beat Camila because of a height advantage as well as Camila not giving her all. I think Camila has shown us a lot more than Theresa has thus far and while she has potential, I haven't been amazed by her.
I don't remember being too impressed with her on FM2 and for the most parr her wins were against easy opponents. I think Ruthie is better.
I agree about Veronica and I think people give Ashley credit for being solid. What about the overrated girls?
[QUOTE=JayTee;438788]Ryan Kehoe (aside from FM1 and Island) proved himself on Duel 2 and FM2. He goes out there and performs. Yeah he's skinny but he has a lot of fight in him. I've seen more fight in him than other skinny guys like Adam King or Chet.
I already talked about CJ in a post above.
Riley is still seen as not a threat just because he never went into an elimination. The dude beat King Bananas up a volcano. He also did decent with Devyn as his partner just like Bananas did.
Knight knows how to stay in the shadows and get on the power players good side. He's got the political aspect on lock. We'll see a lot more of what Knight can offer on Season 26. Until then, I think he's underrated due to the fact that some people think he's one of the worst (in the rankings of big easy and Tyrie).
Theresa is still seen as underrated by many people. You have people thinking someone like Camila is miles beyond Theresa when she really isn't. Theresa beat her in an endurance/power elimination. Theresa did awesome in the final mission on FA with Zach which needed a lot of endurance. She could have been a D1 basketball player if she wanted to and also outperformed her partner Ryan (who's also underrated) on FM2 in the exile which is like a mini final. Theresa would kill it in a final.
Jillian, although winning Gauntlet 3 and getting 3rd on FM2, is underrated because her name never comes up meanwhile you have other small chicks like Ruthie always coming up whenever someone is talking about a small ***-kicker. I think Jillian deserves more credit than what people give her.
Ashley Kelsea proved a lot more than any female other than Sarah on BOTS2. She beat Jonna in an endurance elimination, her team was ahead of Zito&Trashelle (2 endurance runners) even though they had Sam on her team. She was a sleeper. I wouldn't say she's great because she lacks intensity, but I would definitely say she's good due to holding her own weight throughout BOTS2 and winning the final.
Veronica is still underrated by some people. I think she's a legend and has proven herself on more than one occasion. People like to judge her just because they don't like her personality, but I'm not judging people based on whether I like them or not here. I'm judging them based on what I've seen overall. It's kind of like the Jillian situation: people love to talk about Ruthie but rarely mention Veronica or Jillian.[/QUOTE]
How did Ryan k prove ANYTHING on the duel 2? He beat someone who had a broken hand in something that involved using your hands...
Knight is just plain terrible if you don't think so then watch rivals 2 again especially his elimination vs Jordan & Marlon
I agree with you about Jillian. She went into like four gauntlets on the Gauntlet 3 and came back every time. Plus her and Pete were a pretty solid team on FM2
I would have wanted to camila in her right state of mind on her elimination with Theresa. I feel like because she was saying that she gave up, people are discrediting Theresa's win. She won fair and square, and I think she would have still beaten Camila no matter the circumstances.
[QUOTE=riggins;438796]I agree with you about Jillian. She went into like four gauntlets on the Gauntlet 3 and came back every time. Plus her and Pete were a pretty solid team on FM2[/QUOTE]
Jillian was decent on the Gauntlet 2, but she proved how good she was on the Gauntlet 3 and Fresh Meat 2.
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