[QUOTE=kvm1977;437360]She wasn't going to follow through...she was just letting him know that he wasn't going to screw here over.
It worked...didn't it?[/QUOTE]
I still thought it was ****ed up though.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;437357]And it was a ****ed up Card she played IMO. I really felt that Johanna was a ***** for that one...Why would you threaten him with his home. She took it personal and there was no need for her to go there.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention Wes was only going to screw them over because his team wasn't going to play fair and vote him in every time when he was the one who suggested the rotation
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;437362]Not to mention Wes was only going to screw them over because his team wasn't going to play fair and vote him in every time when he was the one who suggested the rotation[/QUOTE]
No, Wes decided to throw missions because they weren't willing to pick a name out of a hat. The idea Wes came up with was idiotic and he decided to throw missions because he didn't get his way. Wes was acting like a child. The Champions were right for not going along with that idiotic plan. If Wes wouldn't have lied to Evan about going and been a decent human being when he arrived it wouldn't have been as bad for him.
"To play fair"--lmfao
[QUOTE=Lola88;437331]I feel like Nia won't be paired with Jordan because then Theresa would go to LeRoy so you'd be losing Wes and Sarah or maybe LeRoy and Sarah and I doubt they would lose two fan favs for Nia lol[/QUOTE]
LOL true! I'd drop Leroy and Sarah though! Haha ouuu I'm heartless.
[QUOTE=JamieFire;437365]LOL true! I'd drop Leroy and Sarah though! Haha ouuu I'm heartless.[/QUOTE]
Out of everyone I want Sarah to get a good chance for once.
She's been screwed with bad partners (Katelynn--why did Katie have to drop out), quitters (Trishelle) and idiots that get kicked off (Vinny) plus Shauvon twice--haha
[QUOTE=nevidcm;437346]Am I the only one that can't stand Johanna? Yes she is pretty, but she has the personality of a rock. I'm glad we won't see her again.[/QUOTE]
Tbh i do not find her even THAT pretty. Overrated just like Nany
[QUOTE=kvm1977;437363]No, Wes decided to throw missions because they weren't willing to pick a name out of a hat. The idea Wes came up with was idiotic and he decided to throw missions because he didn't get his way. Wes was acting like a child. The Champions were right for not going along with that idiotic plan. [B] If Wes wouldn't have lied to Evan about going and been a decent human being when he arrived it wouldn't have been as bad for him.[/B]
"To play fair"--lmfao[/QUOTE]
Wes didn't have to tell Evan ****. It's none of his business if Wes was going on the challenge or not. He(nor anyone else in the cast) needed to know if he was going or not. Wes is not obligated to tell any of the cast that he's going to the challenge or not. It has nothing to do with being a decent human being.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;437366]Out of everyone I want Sarah to get a good chance for once.
She's been screwed with bad partners (Katelynn--why did Katie have to drop out), quitters (Trishelle) and idiots that get kicked off (Vinny) plus Shauvon twice--haha[/QUOTE]!
Yeah, if Sarah has Jordan she would at least have a chance for once! But is it mean of me to not really care if she gets the chance to win? because I kind of don't mind if she never wins... man I feel bad saying that... I just want to be entertained this season, and I feel nia and jordan will give me more of that than Sarah would.:'(
[QUOTE=Debut Album;437368]Wes didn't have to tell Evan ****. It's none of his business if Wes was going on the challenge or not. He(nor anyone else in the cast) needed to know if he was going or not. Wes is not obligated to tell any of the cast that he's going to the challenge or not. It has nothing to do with being a decent human being.[/QUOTE]
Lying to people that are going to run the show sealed his fate. He didn't have to do anything but it was a strategic mistake.
You hate JEK but JEK was going to run that show. Wes made his bed so he got desperate and did stupid things so Johanna put a stop to it.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;437363]No, Wes decided to throw missions because they weren't willing to pick a name out of a hat. The idea Wes came up with was idiotic and [B]he decided to throw missions because he didn't get his way. Wes was acting like a child.[/B] The Champions were right for not going along with that idiotic plan. If Wes wouldn't have lied to Evan about going and been a decent human being when he arrived it wouldn't have been as bad for him.
"To play fair"--lmfao[/QUOTE]
And threatening to sell someone's house when you don't get your way isn't childish? Lmao.
JEK would have screwed Wes over regardless of whether or not he informed them that he was coming.
[QUOTE=JamieFire;437369]!
Yeah, if Sarah has Jordan she would at least have a chance for once! But is it mean of me to not really care if she gets the chance to win? because I kind of don't mind if she never wins... man I feel bad saying that... I just want to be entertained this season, and I feel nia and jordan will give me more of that than Sarah would.:'([/QUOTE]
I want to see Jordan with Nia because Sarah can't win with Jordan
[QUOTE=JamieFire;437369]!
Yeah, if Sarah has Jordan she would at least have a chance for once! But is it mean of me to not really care if she gets the chance to win? because I kind of don't mind if she never wins... man I feel bad saying that... I just want to be entertained this season, and I feel nia and jordan will give me more of that than Sarah would.:'([/QUOTE]
I agree. I'm not all that big on Sarah so I don't care if she gets a fair shot or not. I just hope this challenge is entertaining because it's looking like that's all this challenge is gonna have to offer.
[QUOTE=toenails;437373]And threatening to sell someone's house when you don't get your way isn't childish? Lmao.
JEK would have screwed Wes over regardless of whether or not he informed them that he was coming.[/QUOTE]
If you're going to buy a house and you only put the deed in your name the other person has every right to do that. He has no legal tie to the house. That's his mistake.
I have no problem with Johanna doing that. I would have fully backed her if I was in that house.
They wouldn't have sent Wes in every time. Syrus likely would have gone in first.
[QUOTE=TexasFight88;437300]I don't get the Wes love. He's easily one of the biggest ***** to ever be on this show. The guy literally thinks he's the second coming and that he's so much smarter and more athletic than everyone. He acts as if no one is worthy to even be in his presence. He acts like he graduated from Harvard or another Ivy League school. You didn't, Wes. You went to Arizona ******** State, a very easy school to get into. Another thing I can't stand is his excuse-making when he loses. It's either because "he wasn't trying," "had other things on his mind," or "just wanted to go home to his businesses." It's also funny how people think he's playing a character yet don't say the same thing for CT (aside from the annoying CT fan boys/girls) and Bananas. Hell, or even Kenny back in the day. I hope he's on this season, and I hope Zach, CT and Bananas are as well so they can put this overconfident DB in his place.[/QUOTE]
LOL, you just answered you're own question, all those things that you stated are what makes him likable. He IS the perfect villain for the challenges.
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;437324]Pretty much. Wes/Theresa will be such a ****ty pairing, where the **** is Johanna or KellyAnne?[/QUOTE]
If I had to choose between the 3 girls, I would choose Theresa just to see the dynamic between the two, they HATE each other.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;437371]Lying to people that are going to run the show sealed his fate. He didn't have to do anything but it was a strategic mistake.
You hate JEK but JEK was going to run that show. Wes made his bed so he got desperate and did stupid things so Johanna put a stop to it.[/QUOTE]
It wouldn't have mattered anyways..JEK was going to screw over Wes Whether he told them or not. JEK only cared about getting JEK to the end and that's it. I don't know why you think it would've been any better for Wes had he told Evan he was going.
And what the hell does my hate for JEK have anything to do with anything?
[QUOTE=kvm1977;437377]If you're going to buy a house and you only put the deed in your name the other person has every right to do that. He has no legal tie to the house. That's his mistake.
I have no problem with Johanna doing that. I would have fully backed her if I was in that house.
They wouldn't have sent Wes in every time. Syrus likely would have gone in first.[/QUOTE]
So according to your logic:
threatening to throw missions on a game show because you don't get your way = childish
threatening to sell your ex-boyfriend's house because you don't get your way = perfectly acceptable adult behavior
I love watching people expose their own biases.
9[QUOTE=DarkFights;437380]If I had to choose between the 3 girls, I would choose Theresa just to see the dynamic between the two, they HATE each other.[/QUOTE]
Lol but KA was a real ex... and so was Johanna so I think their dynamic would be more real? Why does Theresa hate Wes? Its not like they have history. I think she may talk ish but would******* up and work with him in order to win.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;437381]It wouldn't have mattered anyways..JEK was going to screw over Wes Whether he told them or not. JEK only cared about getting JEK to the end and that's it. I don't know why you think it would've been any better for Wes had he told Evan he was going.
And what the hell does my hate for JEK have anything to do with anything?[/QUOTE]
Your hatred of them running the show is why you don't see that it was a mistake
If the goal was only to get those 3 to the final explain why they sent Johnny in before Wes
Let's be honest, Evan & Kenny didn't trust Johnny's ability in a final. They made that clear
I like Wes more than Johanna but Wes ****ed up throughout the season
[QUOTE=toenails;437382]So according to your logic:
threatening to throw missions on a game show because you don't get your way = childish
threatening to sell your ex-boyfriend's house because you don't get your way = [B]playing the hand your dealt[/B]
I love watching people expose their own biases.[/QUOTE]
Fixed it
I like Wes more than Johanna so what bias?
[QUOTE=kvm1977;437374]I want to see Jordan with Nia because Sarah can't win with Jordan[/QUOTE]
Jordan/Sarah would be awful. She deserves better, and by better I mean Alton in his prime not the version we saw on Seasons.
[QUOTE=DarkFights;437378]LOL, you just answered you're own question, all those things that you stated are what makes him likable. He IS the perfect villain for the challenges.[/QUOTE]
Wes isn't likable and he isn't a good villain for the challenge or Reality TV in General. Johnny Fairplay, New York, Omarosa, Will Kirby...THOSE are good villians. Wes is nowhere near that. He's a little Pissant compared to them.
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;437386]Jordan/Sarah would be awful. She deserves better, and by better I mean Alton in his prime not the version we saw on Seasons.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Sarah's pretty much screwed.
[QUOTE=Lola88;437322]Im thinking the cast will look like this...
1)Wes/Theresa
2)Danny/Melinda
3)Bananas/Nany
4)Knight/Jemmye
5)Dustin/Jessica
6)LeRoy/Nia
7)Zach/Jonna
8)Swift/Jasmine
9)Trey/Laura
10)Robb/Marie
11)Johnny/Averey
12)Jordan/Sarah
13)Thomas/Hailey
14)Jay/Jenna
...with Robb/Marie on the fence (although I think/hope they'll be on). Is this what everyone else is thinking?[/QUOTE]
Pathetic cast, we need some RR people
[QUOTE=kvm1977;437385]Fixed it
I like Wes more than Johanna so what bias?[/QUOTE]
So throwing missions when your entire team is determined to screw you over is [I]not[/I] "playing the hand your dealt"?
I feel like I'm talking about international politics to Shauvon or something. This is just pointless.
[QUOTE=DarkFights;437389]Pathetic cast, we need some RR people[/QUOTE]
You know what RR pairing I'd want to see? Theo/Sarah (100% [B][U]NOT[/U][/B] going to happen though).
[QUOTE=toenails;437390]So throwing missions when your entire team is determined to screw you over is [I]not[/I] "playing the hand your dealt"?
I feel like I'm talking about international politics to Shauvon or something. This is just pointless.[/QUOTE]
Wes screwed himself. The team didn't. Notice how things went after Wes manned up following Johanna's threat.
Clearly, you're the Shauvon in this conversation.
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