[QUOTE=Npresh24;436080]So if the challenge lasts about 3-4 more seasons , I think there going to need to do some variation of Fresh Meat , Maybe a Cutthroat 2 , cause a lot of these new kids are retiring after one or two , or just not that interested in them.[/QUOTE]
If they only have 3 seasons left, I would hate for them to have to waste one of them on a Fresh Meat, but people do seem to be kind of uninterested. Frank's done, Laurel's done, Crossfit Emily seems to be interested in only a Duel 3...I'm sure there's more.
[QUOTE=Npresh24;436080]So if the challenge lasts about 3-4 more seasons , I think there going to need to do some variation of Fresh Meat , Maybe a Cutthroat 2 , cause a lot of these new kids are retiring after one or two , or just not that interested in them.[/QUOTE]
Fresh Meat 2 and Cutthroat 2 (Atleast, NO random teams like the 1st one and different name) are NOT happening.
[QUOTE=riggins;436084]If they only have 3 seasons left, I would hate for them to have to waste one of them on a Fresh Meat, but people do seem to be kind of uninterested. Frank's done, Laurel's done, Crossfit Emily seems to be interested in only a Duel 3...I'm sure there's more.[/QUOTE]
I think most people want a duel 3
What would be good if they PLANNED for their last season, instead of finding out its cancelled in the middle of the season and not being able to do anything about it (ie not having the ones who really just want a duel3)
[QUOTE=auldx;436091]I think most people want a duel 3
What would be good if they PLANNED for their last season, instead of finding out its cancelled in the middle of the season and not being able to do anything about it (ie not having the ones who really just want a duel3)[/QUOTE]
Why do so many want a Duel 3? I never understood that. The first one was good but the second one was very mediocre and I don't see a 3rd Duel being all that good.
I think the best way to end this show would be a Big 2-team challenge.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;436096]Why do so many want a Duel 3? I never understood that. The first one was good but the second one was very mediocre and I don't see a 3rd Duel being all that good.
I think the best way to end this show would be a Big 2-team challenge.[/QUOTE]
Yesssss team challenge team challenge!!! Hahaha would you want to see any FM cast on that?
[QUOTE=JamieFire;436098]Yesssss team challenge team challenge!!! Hahaha would you want to see any FM cast on that?[/QUOTE]
Nope. The way this show should end is Real World and Road Rules castmembers IMO.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;436104]Nope. The way this show should end is Real World and Road Rules castmembers IMO.[/QUOTE]
Haha kinda of agree with you really! That would be the best way to end it... but I think it would be cool to have maybe laurel and Evelyn on it.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;436064]Laurel is a good competitor.[/QUOTE]
I didn't know you thought Laurel was a good competitor, I thought you barely cared about the competition aspect of the show. Cool that you do though, I definitely agree.
[QUOTE=JamieFire;436105]Haha kinda of agree with you really! That would be the best way to end it... but I think it would be cool to have maybe laurel and Evelyn on it.[/QUOTE]
When you think about it..I suppose Fresh Meat should have some representation. I mean they are a part of this show(A Horrible one at that) and sadly have fanbases and have made a ****ty impact on this show...I guess maybe a few of them would suffice.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;436096]Why do so many want a Duel 3? I never understood that. The first one was good but the second one was very mediocre and I don't see a 3rd Duel being all that good.
[B]I think the best way to end this show would be a Big 2-team challenge.[/B][/QUOTE]
Agreed. Some kind of Legends format (New vs Old) or Heroes vs Villains.
I personally think the most befitting closing chapter would be to come full circle and end it where it all began: a battle between the shows that started the franchise, Real World vs Road Rules.
You could argue that it wouldn't be marketable to the casual audience, but I say **** them. Ending the show on something as simple-minded as Rivals 3 would be somewhat disrespectful. Give the hardcore fans, and the cast a worthwhile sense of closure.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;436064]Laurel is a good competitor.[/QUOTE]
I agree. Evelyn wasn't that bad either. Those were the best girls. The rest are whatever IMO.
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;436109]Agreed. Some kind of Legends format (New vs Old) or Heroes vs Villains.
I personally think the most befitting closing chapter would be to come full circle and end it where it all began: a battle between the shows that started the franchise, Real World vs Road Rules.
You could argue that it wouldn't be marketable to the casual audience, but I say **** them. Ending the show on something as simple-minded as Rivals 3 would be somewhat disrespectful. Give the hardcore fans, and the cast a worthwhile sense of closure.[/QUOTE]
I always the best way to end the show was with an All-Stars season. I mean most shows like this have one except for The Challenge.
[QUOTE=DScott;436106]I didn't know you thought Laurel was a good competitor, I thought you [B]barely cared about the competition aspect of the show. [/B]Cool that you do though, I definitely agree.[/QUOTE]
I don't honestly(well not as much as entertainment). Because it feels like the competition aspect is geared toward People who are big and strong or people who work out a lot and a lot of these people have lives and don't really have the time(or don't want to) to work out of "Train" for this show. Therefore making this show very predictable and stale. I feel like if the challenges were scaled down so that it doesn't just cater to people who do crossfit or work out a lot it would be a better show and maybe it'll get better ratings.
But that's my opinion of course.
[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;436113]I always the best way to end the show was with an All-Stars season.[B] I mean most shows like this have one except for The Challenge[/B].[/QUOTE]
Well that's because the challenge in itself is an all-star show. I mean the shows that do all star seasons have people from various seasons of that show compete on one season of said show. That exactly what this show is..Only thing is they have people from The Real World. The main show of this franchise to choose from.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;436118]I don't honestly. because it feels like the competition aspect is geared toward People who are big and strong or people who work out a lot and a lot of these people have lives and don't really have the time(or don't want to) to work out of "Train" for this show. Therefore making this show very predictable and stale. I feel like if the challenges were scaled down so that it doesn't just cater to people who do crossfit or work out a lot it would be a better show and maybe it'll get better ratings.
But that's my opinion of course.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I understand that, if you have a real outside life with a career; it is hard to devote a large amount of time to insane training. If the challenges were easier, you would probably also see many former cast members be more inclined to say yes.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;436096]Why do so many want a Duel 3? I never understood that. The first one was good but the second one was very mediocre and I don't see a 3rd Duel being all that good.
I think the best way to end this show would be a Big 2-team challenge.[/QUOTE]
I think a cool format would be a combined one
First half of the season is teams
Then somewhere in the middle, they switch to individual until the final.
The thing is, they wouldn't know about the change of format to individual so they would *theoretically get rid of the weak players to keep their team strong and then only the strongest/middle tier would survive to the individ portion ensuring all decent competitors
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;436109]Agreed. Some kind of Legends format (New vs Old) or Heroes vs Villains.
I personally think the most befitting closing chapter would be to come full circle and end it where it all began: a battle between the shows that started the franchise, Real World vs Road Rules.
[B]You could argue that it wouldn't be marketable to the casual audience, but I say **** them. Ending the show on something as simple-minded as Rivals 3 would be somewhat disrespectful. Give the hardcore fans, and the cast a worthwhile sense of closure[/B].[/QUOTE]
I agree. Screw The Casual's. End the show how it started...Real World vs Road Rules.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;436121]Well that's because the challenge in itself is an all-star show. I mean the shows that do all star seasons have people from various seasons of that show compete on one season of said show. That exactly what this show is..Only thing is they have people from The Real World. The main show of this franchise to choose from.[/QUOTE]
True. But if there was a season with the best 14 male/14 female competitors and like Big Brother we choose half of them and production chooses the rest. A completely individual game it could be fun besides a Duel 3. Even though I wouldn't mind a Duel 3 in the near future.
[QUOTE=DScott;436123]Yeah I understand that, if you have a real outside life with a career; it is hard to devote a large amount of time to insane training. If the challenges were easier, [B]you would probably also see many former cast members be more inclined to say yes[/B].[/QUOTE]
And maybe some newer ones too. I do believe that one reason some of the newer people don't want to do these shows is because it's just unessecsaily hard, over the top, and ridiculous. They don't want to throw their hat into some serious crossfit show.
[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;436126]True. But if there was a season with the best 14 male/14 female competitors and like Big Brother we choose half of them and production chooses the rest. A completely individual game it could be fun besides a Duel 3. Even though I wouldn't mind a Duel 3 in the near future.[/QUOTE]
A season with the best of the best is not really going to happen...And I think that's why people want another Duel. Because they think it's going to be the "best of the best" when in reality it's going to be anything but that.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;436129]And maybe some newer ones too. I do believe that one reason some of the newer people don't want to do these shows is because it's just unessecsaily hard, over the top, and ridiculous. They don't want to throw their hat into some serious crossfit show.[/QUOTE]
If BMP would get rid of Justin Booth and find a producer with more creativity, the quality of both the show and the cast would drastically improve.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;436131]A season with the best of the best is not really going to happen...And I think that's why people want another Duel. Because they think it's going to be the "best of the best" when in reality it's going to be anything but that.[/QUOTE]
True. Cause many of the better competitors are done. But a I think had Free Agents been a Duel 3 it wouldn't have been that bad and that cast was pretty average.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;436129]And maybe some newer ones too. I do believe that one reason some of the newer people don't want to do these shows is because it's just unessecsaily hard, over the top, and ridiculous. They don't want to throw their hat into some serious crossfit show.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that's so true! Before the challenges didn't cater to super fit people. A lot of old schoolers could compete and not be in great physical shape. But there were also more team challenges so it was probably easier for the less fit to make to the end rather with pairs and individual challenges.
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;436133]If BMP would get rid of Justin Booth and find a producer with more creativity, the quality of both the show and the cast would drastically improve.[/QUOTE]
But he tries to cast better people but a lot of them are done. So there is not much he can do but beg and pay them more which is not really working. So we are left with what we have. Its a new generation of challengers and people need to start getting use it IMO.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;436129]And maybe some newer ones too. I do believe that one reason some of the newer people don't want to do these shows is because it's just unessecsaily hard, over the top, and ridiculous. They don't want to throw their hat into some serious crossfit show.[/QUOTE]
The crossfit **** is ridiculous. I would love to be on a show with Emily and tell her to shove her bacon, kale, and crossfit regimen right up her ***.
I'm sure if I were on the show I'd be looked down upon for going biking/hiking/kayaking/etc instead of "getting swole" and taking selfies at the gym...
[QUOTE=Debut Album;436129]And maybe some newer ones too. I do believe that one reason some of the newer people don't want to do these shows is because it's just unessecsaily hard, over the top, and ridiculous. They don't want to throw their hat into some serious crossfit show.[/QUOTE]
Definitely, I mean I've tried out for the real world before and would've loved to do challenges, however I know it be pretty insane to have to prepare myself as much as cast members do. Like I'm in good shape, I can run and swim for days, however I'm not remotely ready for how the challenges are today lol. I would die not just doing a show, but preparing for a show haha
[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;436136]But he tries to cast better people but a lot of them are done. So there is not much he can do but beg and pay them more which is not really working. So we are left with what we have. Its a new generation of challengers and people need to start getting use it IMO.[/QUOTE]
He isn't responsible for the casting, but he is the reason a lot of people decline.
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