The Challenge: Generic Thread

I like Devyn tbh but she's not as great as Paula I know some people have grown tired of Paula but I love her. Tonya was also one of my favorites she was entertaining on the inferno 2 then the her and Susie fight on inferno 3 was great and when she slapped Veronica that was amazing. I love watching people fight lol

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;433289]I like Devyn tbh but she's not as great as Paula I know some people have grown tired of Paula but I love her. Tonya was also one of my favorites she was entertaining on the inferno 2 then the her and Susie fight on inferno 3 was great and when she slapped Veronica that was amazing. I love watching people fight lol[/QUOTE] Yeah Tonya was definitely entertaining. But Regarding Tonya: I wish that she would've came back one last time in better place mentally and physically ready to compete and win. Just to end her challenge career on a better note. It seems really ****ed up that The Ruins was the end for her regarding challenges.

Here's my Top 25 "stars" of The Challenge list 1- Mike Mizanin 2- CT 3- Johnny Bananas 4- Coral 5- Diem 6- Beth 7- Wes 8- Veronica 9- Katie 10- Kenny 11- Derrick 12- Evan 13- Landon 14- Mark 15- Abram 16- Laurel 17- Brad 18- Rachel R. 19- Evelyn 20- Julie 21- Theo V. 22- Camila 23- Timmy 24- David "Puck" 25- Paula Honorable Mentions - Ruthie - Jenn - Darrell - Tina - Emily B.

I really wish people would stop being biased and acknowledge how ridiculous it is to put Marie on a top 25 list when she was only on one season or Dustin who left early on two of them and shined on only one.

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;433303]I really wish people would stop being biased and acknowledge how ridiculous it is to put Marie on a top 25 list when she was only on one season or Dustin who left early on two of them and shined on only one.[/QUOTE] So people who've only done 3984713893898397832 of these things should only be on that list?

[QUOTE=Debut Album;433308]So people who've only done 3984713893898397832 of these things should only be on that list?[/QUOTE] Atleast be done 2. So we know if the first time is a fluke or not.

[QUOTE=auldx;433311]Atleast be done 2. So we know if the first time is a fluke or not.[/QUOTE] I dunno..I feel like if someone is entertaining and has personality and showed that during a challenge then they should be on that list no matter how many challenges they did.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;433312]I dunno..I feel like if someone is entertaining and has personality and showed that during a challenge then they should be on that list no matter how many challenges they did.[/QUOTE] I guess it would depend on the person. I don't think I've seen enough of Marie for it to warrant an opinion for me personally, but if say, Beth only did Inferno II (I know she didn't) then yes i'd agree she's a "star"

My Top 25. I did it on who I feel like has had the biggest impact on the show OVERALL. 1. Johnny Bananas 2. CT 3. Coral 4. Veronica 5. Mike 6. Kenny 7. Wes 8. Evan 9. Mark 10. Beth 11. Diem 12. Katie 13. Abram 14. Derrick 15. Evelyn 16. Darrell 17. Paula 18. Tonya 19. Brad 20. Tina 21. Theo V. 22. Landon 23. Rachel 24. Timmy 25. Big Easy I really wanted to add the few one hit wonders that we had like Sarah G, Puck & Emily B(she did 2) but since we didn't get to see so much I thought this list was better.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;433308]So people who've only done 3984713893898397832 of these things should only be on that list?[/QUOTE] People who have claims to being the most memorable: Veronica, Beth, Katie, etc. If we use your method, people would put people they found entertaining who did 1/2 shows and is someone people, in general do not remember. I do not like Kenny, but I am able to not be biased and see how memorable he was. Unfortunately you seem unable to do the same.

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;433321]People who have claims to being the most memorable: Veronica, Beth, Katie, etc. If we use your method, people would put people they found entertaining who did 1/2 shows and is someone people, in general do not remember. I do not like Kenny, but I am able to not be biased and see how memorable he was. Unfortunately you seem unable to do the same.[/QUOTE] Well it was stated IN YOUR OPINION who are the 25 biggest stars of this series. Key Word OPINION. so if I want to be "Biased" like you claim I am then I sure as **** will be. Don't like it? Tough ****. I'm not going to put Kenny, one of the three people in my mind that had a hand in destroying this show and is responsible for one of the worst Era's in this show's history on this list. He's unlikable, has no charisma and is not funny and he allegedly raped a castmember. Why would I put him on my list?

Maybe I'm in the minority but I actually didn't mind Fresh Meat. I think the reason is because I know if I was given the position I would've easily jumped on it. I actually wish they would've used some of the Fresh Meaters more. Linette, Chanda, Johnnie, Sandy, Pete, Aviv & Carley are the first that come to mind.

[QUOTE=TheKorean;433325]Maybe I'm in the minority but I actually didn't mind Fresh Meat. I think the reason is because I know if I was given the position I would've easily jumped on it. I actually wish they would've used some of the Fresh Meaters more. Linette, Chanda, Johnnie, Sandy, Pete, Aviv & Carley are the first that come to mind.[/QUOTE] Agreed! I would have liked to see Noor come back too.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;433323]Well it was stated IN YOUR OPINION who are the 25 biggest stars of this series. Key Word OPINION. so if I want to be "Biased" like you claim I am then I sure as **** will be. Don't like it? Tough ****. I'm not going to put Kenny, one of the three people in my mind that had a hand in destroying this show and is responsible for one of the worst Era's in this show's history on this list. He's unlikable, has no charisma and is not funny and he allegedly raped a castmember. Why would I put him on my list?[/QUOTE] How can you even begin to claim Dustin/Marie/Jordan are bigger stars than Kenny, Paula, Ev? You liking them and thinking their 1-3 challenges appearances somehow mean they are 25 of the biggest stars is laughable. Of course you will hide behind the "but it is my opinion!!!!". It's not a claim, you are biased. If you can't see that, then just wow....

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;433328]How can you even begin to claim Dustin/Marie/Jordan are bigger stars than Kenny, Paula, Ev? You liking them and thinking their 1-3 challenges appearances somehow mean they are 25 of the biggest stars is laughable. Of course you will hide behind the "but it is my opinion!!!!". It's not a claim, you are biased. If you can't see that, then just wow....[/QUOTE] Well, in DA's opinion, FM cast member's aren't real.. so yes I can see why DA would think dustin/marie/Jordan.. "actual cast members" are bigger stars. DA also thinks Kenny destroyed the show by even being on the show just because he's fresh meat (as we all know). But I can KIND OF see how Jordan is a "big star", not likeable, but he did provide great drama in FA and 2 challenges in, he already ****** off Banana's. The others, I don't see. I wouldn't say he's a "big star" but I can see why people think he's a "star". "star" being subjective. However, there is no way- in my opinion and probably most others- that dustin/marie(she only did ONE challenge) and Jordan are bigger stars than Kenny/paula/ev.

If Kenny & Evan were allowed back then the ratings would rise. BMP knows that and they are struggling to find a way for the show to get the ratings without them. These new people aren't bigger stars than them and they never will be.

[QUOTE=JEKFAN;433333]If Kenny & Evan were allowed back then the ratings would rise. BMP knows that and they are struggling to find a way for the show to get the ratings without them.[/QUOTE] Possibly. Or just better promotion would help as well

[QUOTE=mizwood;433262]I still think that Tyrie is more interesting than Brandon lol[/QUOTE] I think of challengers that have been on a challenge since Fresh Meat II, here are some people that I find painfully not interesting whatsoever. Jillian Katelynn Noor Carley Sydney Brandon Jeff Melinda JD Jasmine Davis Tyrie Priscilla Naomi Preston Ashley K Sam Laura Mckenzie Lacey Anastasia Derek Robb Swift

[QUOTE=JEKFAN;433333]If Kenny & Evan were allowed back then the ratings would rise. BMP knows that and they are struggling to find a way for the show to get the ratings without them. These new people aren't bigger stars than them and they never will be.[/QUOTE] I think they will be...They just got to get shoved down the audiences throat challenge after challenge after challenge and BOOM they will be popular..And will be bigger stars than them.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;433284]You're forgetting that Tonya had that spat with Robin Regarding Mark and Tonya and it ended up her throwing In Beth's clothes in the pool. That alone was more entertaining than anything Evelyn or Camilla has done. And to be Honest Evelyn Deserved all the **** she got on The Island. Mainly because of how she was on The Gauntlet 3. [B]And Camilla's stupid little freakouts are not entertaining to me IMO[/B]. I don't see how me not finding them entertaining is wrong.[/QUOTE] I was waiting for someone to agree with me on this. Camila is so painful to watch. I can't wait to never see her again. By far one of my least favorite cast members. I don't know of anyone that is more hungry for airtime than her. Every season she has had a freak out/meltdown. Cutthroat- freaked on at the bar on the Red Team Rivals- had some idiotic fight with Jonna/Jasmine Exes- I don't even need to explain Seasons- once again another pointless idiotic fight with Brandon Rivals II- freaked out on Johnny for airtime Free Agents- had her fight with Nany and behind the scene footage of her flipping out until 6 am. I'm over it. She has won a challenge, she has made it to the end a few times, she has done 6 challenges in a row. It's time to stop casting her.

There was few who stand out for me from new guys, like CJ and Frank but guess what, even they ate done with this show. Ughh. That sucks!!! Now we are stuck boring people like Jessica. Yay! Lucky us!

[QUOTE=El Scorcho;433339]I was waiting for someone to agree with me on this. Camila is so painful to watch. I can't wait to never see her again. By far one of my least favorite cast members. I don't know of anyone that is more hungry for airtime than her. Every season she has had a freak out/meltdown. Cutthroat- freaked on at the bar on the Red Team Rivals- had some idiotic fight with Jonna/Jasmine Exes- I don't even need to explain Seasons- once again another pointless idiotic fight with Brandon Rivals II- freaked out on Johnny for airtime Free Agents- had her fight with Nany and behind the scene footage of her flipping out until 6 am. [B]I'm over it. She has won a challenge, she has made it to the end a few times, she has done 6 challenges in a row. It's time to stop casting her[/B].[/QUOTE] I agree so much. Camilla is completely and utterly useless. She needs to not ever be cast again.

[QUOTE=TheKorean;433325]Maybe I'm in the minority but I actually didn't mind Fresh Meat. I think the reason is because I know if I was given the position I would've easily jumped on it. I actually wish they would've used some of the Fresh Meaters more. [B]Linette, Chanda, Johnnie, Sandy, Pete, Aviv & Carley are the first that come to mind.[/B][/QUOTE] See if they came back I wouldn't mind. Because they aren't as horrible and/or Useless like the ones who returned time and again. Or at least they seemed not to be.

Although many of you on here don't like Camila for her antics she is currently one of the most popular challengers so I'd say she's somewhat of a star at least Honorable mention. And when it comes to Tonya I think she's been pretty important in the series. She has always been part of the drama/storyline on most seasons and Inferno 2 basically revolved around her.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;433344]See if they came back I wouldn't mind. Because they aren't as horrible and/or Useless like the ones who returned time and again. Or at least they seemed not to be.[/QUOTE] Explain how they are useless. I see you make these comments time and time again with zero substance to back it up.

Biggest stars only including people from Fresh Meat 2 until now: (I included Sarah since she is practically from this era) 1. Cara Maria 2. Frank 3. Laurel 4. Camila 5. Zach 6. Nany 7. Sarah 8. Jordan 9. Dustin 10. Theresa 11. Leroy 12. Emily 13. Marie 14. Jemmye 15. Jonna 16. Devyn 17. Knight 18. CJ 19. Cooke 20. Johnny R. 21. Jasmine 22. Jessica 23. Preston 24. Trey 25. LaToya

[QUOTE=nevidcm;433353]Biggest stars only including people from Fresh Meat 2 until now: (I included Sarah since she is practically from this era) 1. Cara Maria 2. [B]Frank[/B] 3. Laurel 4. Camila 5. Zach 6. Nany 7. Sarah 8. Jordan 9. Dustin 10. Theresa 11. Leroy 12. Emily 13. Marie 14. Jemmye 15. Jonna 16. Devyn 17. Knight 18. CJ 19. Cooke 20. Johnny R. 21. [B]]Jasmine[/B] 22. [B]Jessica[/B] 23. Preston 24. Trey 25.[B]LaToya[/B][/QUOTE] Hands down my absolute least favorite people on the challenge haha. I wouldn't mind if they never came back

[QUOTE=El Scorcho;433339]I was waiting for someone to agree with me on this. Camila is so painful to watch. I can't wait to never see her again. By far one of my least favorite cast members. I don't know of anyone that is more hungry for airtime than her. Every season she has had a freak out/meltdown. Cutthroat- freaked on at the bar on the Red Team Rivals- had some idiotic fight with Jonna/Jasmine Exes- I don't even need to explain Seasons- once again another pointless idiotic fight with Brandon Rivals II- freaked out on Johnny for airtime Free Agents- had her fight with Nany and behind the scene footage of her flipping out until 6 am. I'm over it. She has won a challenge, she has made it to the end a few times, she has done 6 challenges in a row. It's time to stop casting her.[/QUOTE] And? That is why she is perfect for these shows. She brings drama/is a hothead and always comes to compete. I qm confused as to why you assume she is hungry for camera time. Especially when Johnny was poking at her the entire time on Rivals 2 and she was troubled with her father at the time, but of course none of this gets shown. She should take a break though for at least 1-2 shows, but she shoukd definitely return.

[QUOTE=Kid Deezy;433357]Hands down my absolute least favorite people on the challenge haha. I wouldn't mind if they never came back[/QUOTE] Frank has grown on me on Free Agents and I like LaToya, but I agree on the other two. As much as you hate Frank, there's no denying he is definitely on of the biggest stars of this era.

[QUOTE=nevidcm;433362]Frank has grown on me on Free Agents and I like LaToya, but I agree on the other two. As much as you hate Frank, there's no denying he is definitely on of the biggest stars of this era.[/QUOTE] I'm hoping with him going home early on Free agents and supposedly not being on the next season really cools people's interest so we don't see him as much haha. Out of the 4 I find him to be the most unpleasant. I've disliked watching him since RW:SD.