[QUOTE=kvm1977;429042]Yes, she was held back by Ty
Race to the Altar was about them being unable to find something in the digging part of the mission. You make something out of nothing all the time. It is laughable.[/QUOTE]
Other teams found theirs pretty fast, why couldn't they? Stop making excuses.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;429040]What is ridiculous is saying she was top 5 in Cutthroat as if she was impressive. Huge gap between her and Sarah/Laurel/Camila/Jenn. I will never understand this Emily is elite talk and I like Em.[/QUOTE]
She is awesome at physical stuff, but people like Laurel and Evelyn are more well-rounded.
[QUOTE=JayTee;429027]I'm specifically talking about TheoVon, Dan Set and Jamie. I know Miz, Darrell, old school Derrick, CTizzle and old school Brad would fair well in the finals of today. But people give way too much credit to people that have only done 3 or so challenges and then completely ignore our king, our savior, the unstoppable force of Lord Bananas.[/QUOTE]
****. I don't think Bananas is Lord anything but I get what you're saying.
[QUOTE=JayTee;429052]We can exclude politics and social game, but include everything else.
CT and Kenny are both kind of on the same level imo but CT is a little better since he's won more missions and has clutched it when needed (except for Exes).[/QUOTE]
Kenny is on the same level as CT?? Was Kenny ever the best male performer on a challenge? CT was the best on the Inferno, Inferno 2 and the Duel.
[QUOTE=WesIsTheBest;429026]So I'm rewatching Fresh Meat 1 and I'm checking the combine stats and good lord I thought these guys were going to be more athletic. Like Evan was by far the most athletic male, and he only ran a 5.6 40 yard dash. That is REALLY slow! I ran a 4.6 in high school and I wasn't even that great, bench warmers were running under 5.5s.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I would kill a challenge but are these guys really as athletic as we think they are?[/QUOTE]
Not a chance.
[QUOTE=PaulX001;429053]Other teams found theirs pretty fast, why couldn't they? Stop making excuses.[/QUOTE]
That still doesn't state she performed poorly
Why are you blaming her not Ty?
You never make any sense
You dismiss missions for no reason and value missions that prove nothing
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;429055]Would Kenny even make the final if it was individual? Haha[/QUOTE]
Exactly! The one individual challenge he did (the Duel), he lost to Nehemiah. He uses alliance to his advantage and make it to final on pair challenges.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;429042]Yes, she was held back by Ty
Race to the Altar was about them being unable to find something in the digging part of the mission. You make something out of nothing all the time. It is laughable.[/QUOTE]
They are a team. Stop getting on Ty for it. My god.
[QUOTE=PaulX001;429058]Kenny is on the same level as CT?? Was Kenny ever the best male performer on a challenge? CT was the best on the Inferno, Inferno 2 and the Duel.[/QUOTE]
this guy is like superman at finals, gad knows how. You can not say this about other dudes ( *cough* Zack *cough* )
[QUOTE=PaulX001;429058]Kenny is on the same level as CT?? Was Kenny ever the best male performer on a challenge? CT was the best on the Inferno, Inferno 2 and the Duel.[/QUOTE]
As competitors CT is far superior
As players they're comparable. Social game and politics do matter in a challenge
[QUOTE=kollanekoer;429049]Bananas is better than CT?
Camila is better than Emily?
what is this ****ery?[/QUOTE]
I know right? And then they have the nerve to be condescending.
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;429063]They are a team. Stop getting on Ty for it. My god.[/QUOTE]
She was held back by Ty. Ty would own that. Why wouldn't we?
He performed "good enough" when he had to
[QUOTE=kollanekoer;429064]this guy is like superman at finals, gad knows how. You can not say this about other dudes ( *cough* Zack *cough* )[/QUOTE]
Kenny is good at finals but not good overall on challenges when you take into account all of his mission performances. A final mission is just one mission.
[QUOTE=PaulX001;429058]Kenny is on the same level as CT?? Was Kenny ever the best male performer on a challenge? CT was the best on the Inferno, Inferno 2 and the Duel.[/QUOTE]
CT is better, but Kenny isn't too far behind. Kenny kind of sucks at doing well in missions, that's his only weakness.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;429040]What is ridiculous is saying she was top 5 in Cutthroat as if she was impressive. Huge gap between her and Sarah/Laurel/Camila/Jenn. I will never understand this Emily is elite talk and I like Em.[/QUOTE]
I love em to but this is Vevmo. You know how people are.
[QUOTE=PaulX001;429069]Kenny is good at finals but not good overall on challenges when you take into account all of his mission performances. A final mission is just one mission.[/QUOTE]
But, the being able to complete a final and do it well carries more weight to many people because a final is far more difficult
Most sane & intelligent humans will give more weight to a final
[QUOTE=kvm1977;429065]As competitors CT is far superior
As players they're comparable. Social game and politics do matter in a challenge[/QUOTE]
Okay, but I'm talking strictly about COMPETITION! Not social game! That's the problem with including social game when discussing the best competitors.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;429072]But, the being able to complete a final and do it well carries more weight to many people because a final is far more difficult
Most sane & intelligent humans will give more weight to a final[/QUOTE]
Finals are more difficult, but that's still ONE MISSION!! I'm talking about overall performances! Not who's the best at final missions!
[QUOTE=PaulX001;429074]Okay, but I'm talking strictly about COMPETITION! Not social game! That's the problem with including social game when discussing the best competitors.[/QUOTE]
But you don't dictate what people care about
I agree with you that CT is a better competitor but one can argue Kenny was the better player.
[QUOTE=PaulX001;429075]Finals are more difficult, but that's still ONE MISSION!! I'm talking about overall performances! Not who's the best at final missions![/QUOTE]
Not all missions are the same or indicate as much. A final tells us a lot more about someone's true abilities than some of the stupid missions.
[QUOTE=JayTee;429070]CT is better, but Kenny isn't too far behind. Kenny kind of sucks at doing well in missions, that's his only weakness.[/QUOTE]
Kenny isn't too far behind CT......man you guys are a sad case.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;429078]Not all missions are the same or indicate as much. A final tells us a lot more about someone's true abilities than some of the stupid missions.[/QUOTE]
The best competitors are the most consistent and have the best overall abilities, Kenny doesn't at all fit into that description. Please stop mentioning him, he's an average at best competitor.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;429076]But you don't dictate what people care about
I agree with you that CT is a better competitor but one can argue Kenny was the better player.[/QUOTE]
Kenny is a better social player, but that's not the discussion here (that's an entirely different discussion), the discussion (for me at least) are the best competitors. The person who sparked this debate asked who are the best athletes, not political players.
I am watching Rivals I and there was elimination round Jonna and Jasmin vs Cm and Laurel. So everybody wore blue to support J&J but not Evelyn who was wearing Cara Maria shirt. Why? Are they friends or something?
[QUOTE=kollanekoer;429143]I am watching Rivals I and there was elimination round Jonna and Jasmin vs Cm and Laurel. So everybody wore blue to support J&J but not Evelyn who was wearing Cara Maria shirt. Why? Are they friends or something?[/QUOTE]
Evelyn was friends with CM & Laurel. I remember on Fresh Meat Laurel & Evelyn were really good friends. She probably just wore black too because literally everyone was wearing blue.
[QUOTE=kollanekoer;429143]I am watching Rivals I and there was elimination round Jonna and Jasmin vs Cm and Laurel. So everybody wore blue to support J&J but not Evelyn who was wearing Cara Maria shirt. Why? Are they friends or something?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's funny because we didn't see that at all, but they and Laurel even did a live stream after Rivals 1. Those three were apparently very good friends. I know Ev got along with Jasmine and Jonna very well, too.
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