The Challenge: Free Agents - Pride Before The Wall

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[QUOTE=toenails;414698]Being promiscuous does not mean that your "morals are down the drain". What an unbelievably stupid and simple-minded thing to say. If the *** is consensual, and nobody is getting harmed, then it is not immoral. Simple as that.[/QUOTE] It seems like somebody IS getting harmed here. That's the problem. If Nany wasn't looking for anything serious, that's totally fine, but she should have been honest with Cohutta. If she was serious about him, she has an awful way of showing it. Why do these people act like not hooking up is so hard to do? It's not. There's nothing difficult about not having *** with random people on camera. Nothing.
Jordan was scared going in there, you could tell he didn't want to do it. But that is karma for ya. He should have never talked a big game then couldn't back it up. I didn't think the moment of him flipping all the cards was that ******. Maybe because they showed it in the previews so much that it took away the effect but he just looked like an arrogant idiot.
The Jordan moment was far less cool than I anticipated. It was still an old school move to do it but the circumstances were not nearly as exciting. I thought we were going to get a scene from the days were people like Alton would go in and fight a battle they felt like they were best suited to win over someone else. Nobody puts their own butts on the line anymore(and for good reason but it sure is fun to see).
[QUOTE=Boski;414709]KVM, I can't tell from your 100 weekly posts, but do you like Jordan or not?[/QUOTE] Seriously there are now more posts of you guys *****ing at him and him defending himself than of ones where he complained in the first place. Why don't you put him on ignore and save the rest of us.
I really like to watch Cara Maria and Laurel friendship on this challenge and them making a challenge together as BFF, etc. But am I the only one who think it would have been awesome to watch both of them compete in this individual challenge as Rivals? Like maybe this challenge after Cutthroat? I mean they're the top 2 females now in this challenge and if they were still rivals it would make the competition more intense. For example in this challenge both of them racing having that rivalry would have made better competition. Plus Laurel would probably be trying to get rid of her and I think it would of made the girls side competition wise more entertaining. Laurel did say in Rivals 1 interview that Cara Maria was someone she fear going up against and that's why she didn't want her in Fm2. So both of them having that intensity against each other PLUS they being each other biggest threat, would have been great to watch. Anyway, there friendship is cute so its all good.
[QUOTE=riggins;414707]Lol yeah, he should have just told Laurel he didn't want to do it. What kind of sense does it make to just hope she says it on her own. I just don't even understand how he literally threw the challenge then immediately had second thoughts about it. If he hadn't thought it through already, he should have at least TRIED not to be in the draw.[/QUOTE] Don't the interviews take place a couple days after the challenge and the day after the elimination? I rolled my eyes when Jordan said he threw the mission because two of his friends were in the lead. It definitely smacked of rewriting history or selective memory. I think he did terribly in the challenge, but his own view of his "prowess" can't deal with that fact, so the claim that he actually threw it is the story he decided to roll with. It doesn't hurt that throwing the challenge, then flipping the cards is a more compelling narrative than "I was terrible in the challenge, but luckily my friend was in power, so I had a chance to take out Bananas by stupidly putting myself into the elimination but failed".
[QUOTE=PinkRose;414697]Like I wrote yesterday funny that those same people that defend Nany are the same that attack jonna for a lot less when it comes to hookups. Then those that attack Nany are the same ones that praise CT/Leroy/Jordan for hooking up.[/QUOTE] I don't know why people keep comparing the two as if they're the only females on these challenges who hookup. Their situations are obviously different and JEK as already said it.
[QUOTE=hannamez8;414726]I don't know why people keep comparing the two as if they're the only females on these challenges who hookup. Their situations are obviously different and JEK as already said it.[/QUOTE] I am not comparing them...I was referring to some of the poster that were defending nany are the same one that attack Jonna and praise CT for hooking up. Random fact: Nany have hooked up on and off camera with 4 of the 7 guys left in the game (Johnny Bananas,CT,Cohutta and Johnny R). I don't judge no one for being promiscuous, just though it was interesting.
[QUOTE=JohnPhoenix;414722]I really like to watch Cara Maria and Laurel friendship on this challenge and them making a challenge together as BFF, etc. But am I the only one who think it would have been awesome to watch both of them compete in this individual challenge as Rivals? Like maybe this challenge after Cutthroat? I mean they're the top 2 females now in this challenge and if they were still rivals it would make the competition more intense. For example in this challenge both of them racing having that rivalry would have made better competition. Plus Laurel would probably be trying to get rid of her and I think it would of made the girls side competition wise more entertaining. Laurel did say in Rivals 1 interview that Cara Maria was someone she fear going up against and that's why she didn't want her in Fm2. So both of them having that intensity against each other PLUS they being each other biggest threat, would have been great to watch. Anyway, there friendship is cute so its all good.[/QUOTE] I personally think that Cara is kissing way too much of Laurel's ***. I don't think that Laurel would do the things that Cara would do for her. Cara needs to just have her own back if she wants to actually win and stop playing second banana to _____.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;414692]Didn't cara also wrote on her form spring saying that all the JKE guys and Bananas where not loyal to the gfs they had back then causing his ex gf and her sister to attack him on twitter during Exes.[/QUOTE] She wrote that Johnny and Kenny hooked up with another castmembers and had enough power to tell production to not air it
[QUOTE=JohnPhoenix;414722]I really like to watch Cara Maria and Laurel friendship on this challenge and them making a challenge together as BFF, etc. But am I the only one who think it would have been awesome to watch both of them compete in this individual challenge as Rivals? Like maybe this challenge after Cutthroat? I mean they're the top 2 females now in this challenge and if they were still rivals it would make the competition more intense. For example in this challenge both of them racing having that rivalry would have made better competition. Plus Laurel would probably be trying to get rid of her and I think it would of made the girls side competition wise more entertaining. Laurel did say in Rivals 1 interview that Cara Maria was someone she fear going up against and that's why she didn't want her in Fm2. So both of them having that intensity against each other PLUS they being each other biggest threat, would have been great to watch. Anyway, there friendship is cute so its all good.[/QUOTE] You know what, I think you're right. Jonna said it best last night when she said no matter what you do to cara and laurel, they're still better than her, which goes for ALL the girls. There's no real competition between the girls this time because the two top dogs are friends. And I think it's interesting that cara tweeted something like "I told Laurel to play her own game when we got to Free Agents" but they're choosing to stick together. That said, I love them together. Very, very cute.
Wow, Jordan's an idiot! It was dumb to throw the mission - - he was 100% safe this week - - and dumber to flip all the cards. Pride can make people do really stupid things. It would have been pretty bad *** if Johnny beat Bananas, but he didn't, and now he looks like a fool. Laurel was pretty dumb, too. She may have 100% confidence in herself (as she should!), but I'm not sure why she thought a win was a lock for Jordan. You can't be afraid of eliminations, but you shouldn't unnecessarily volunteer yourself either. She should have talked him out of it.
[QUOTE=JohnPhoenix;414722]I really like to watch Cara Maria and Laurel friendship on this challenge and them making a challenge together as BFF, etc. But am I the only one who think it would have been awesome to watch both of them compete in this individual challenge as Rivals? Like maybe this challenge after Cutthroat? I mean they're the top 2 females now in this challenge and if they were still rivals it would make the competition more intense. For example in this challenge both of them racing having that rivalry would have made better competition. Plus Laurel would probably be trying to get rid of her and I think it would of made the girls side competition wise more entertaining. Laurel did say in Rivals 1 interview that Cara Maria was someone she fear going up against and that's why she didn't want her in Fm2. So both of them having that intensity against each other PLUS they being each other biggest threat, would have been great to watch. Anyway, there friendship is cute so its all good.[/QUOTE] I love Laurel and Cara Maria's friendship, too! I like them both and I loved them finishing 1-2. It would have been interesting to see them play Free Agents as rivals. Cara Maria would have been screwed. If she wasn't flipping the Kill Card in the draw, she'd be nominated into the elimination by Laurel. :) I was surprised at how well Jessica did, especially considering the way she started. It was also nice to see Johnny do so well. Pretty good strategy by Leroy. Theresa should have done the same. She was lucky to dodge a bullet. It would have been smarter for Laurel to throw her in instead of Aneesa.
[QUOTE=Leafie;414741]Wow, Jordan's an idiot! It was dumb to throw the mission - - he was 100% safe this week - - and dumber to flip all the cards. Pride can make people do really stupid things. It would have been pretty bad *** if Johnny beat Bananas, but he didn't, and now he looks like a fool. Laurel was pretty dumb, too. She may have 100% confidence in herself (as she should!), but I'm not sure why she thought a win was a lock for Jordan. You can't be afraid of eliminations, but you shouldn't unnecessarily volunteer yourself either. [B]She should have talked him out of it[/B].[/QUOTE] For all we know, she could have tried. They just didn't show it
[QUOTE=Leafie;414741]Wow, Jordan's an idiot! It was dumb to throw the mission - - he was 100% safe this week - - and dumber to flip all the cards. Pride can make people do really stupid things. It would have been pretty bad *** if Johnny beat Bananas, but he didn't, and now he looks like a fool. Laurel was pretty dumb, too. She may have 100% confidence in herself (as she should!), but I'm not sure why she thought a win was a lock for Jordan. You can't be afraid of eliminations, but you shouldn't unnecessarily volunteer yourself either. She should have talked him out of it.[/QUOTE] Laurel must have bought into all of Jordan's talk about himself lol. I don't think she realizes that just because SHE can back up her **** doesn't mean everyone else with that bravado is able to. And by the time Jordan wanted Laurel to talk him out of it, hadn't they already voted in Bananas? I don't know, I think it would be shady as **** to talk all that talk, vote in a strong player like that and then end up serving Preston up to him on a silver platter. But actually, considering how they both performed this challenge, maybe Preston would have had a better chance lol.
I really enjoyed seeing Sarah and I wish she was there competing.
[QUOTE=auldx;414743]For all we know, she could have tried. They just didn't show it[/QUOTE] True. I just assumed she didn't since Jordan said something about waiting for her to tell him not to do it and she didn't. Either way, it's all on Jordan. It was his decision, and a stupid decision it was.
[QUOTE=riggins;414744]Laurel must have bought into all of Jordan's talk about himself lol. I don't think she realizes that just because SHE can back up her **** doesn't mean everyone else with that bravado is able to. And by the time Jordan wanted Laurel to talk him out of it, hadn't they already voted in Bananas? I don't know, I think it would be shady as **** to talk all that talk, vote in a strong player like that and then end up serving Preston up to him on a silver platter. But actually, considering how they both performed this challenge, maybe Preston would have had a better chance lol.[/QUOTE] Preston probably couldn't even break enough to get halfway up
Regarding Aneesa "kissing Laurel's ***"... As poor of an attempt as it was, Aneesa was trying to save herself from elimination. We see this sort of thing in the game all the time. She just didn't do it very well. Laurel had a game plan and intimidated Devyn into not choosing her. Aneesa had no shot with the BS she was throwing at Laurel. She was probably better off not saying anything at all. If Aneesa wanted to try to convince Laurel not to throw her in, she should have reminded Laurel that she's someone to keep around for the final because she's not great with endurance. If I were Laurel, I'd rather Aneesa in the final than Theresa.
I know Jordan's decision looks really dumb now that he lost, but I like his willingness to try and make a game changing move. I thought it was bold and could have altered the atmosphere of the entire game. Although, when he was the wall, he probably should have waited to make his move, I still applaud his willingness to take the shot. It was definitely a cocky move but I like his willingness to mix things up for better or for worse. I hope he takes the loss as a learning experience and comes back smarter next time.
[QUOTE=hafnerfan69;414749]I know Jordan's decision looks really dumb now that he lost, but I like his willingness to try and make a game changing move. I thought it was bold and could have altered the atmosphere of the entire game. Although, when he was the wall, he probably should have waited to make his move, I still applaud his willingness to take the shot. It was definitely a cocky move but I like his willingness to mix things up for better or for worse. I hope he takes the loss as a learning experience and comes back smarter next time.[/QUOTE] It wasn't bold at all. He basically got suckered into doing it by all the guys. He even had to ask laurel for her approval. He wasn't walking around steaming like "I'm gonna go in and out this guy!". He just didn't want to look like a coward in front of all the vets and let them control his decision. Weak.
In the first episode when TJ said "Some of you winners call yourself champions when you were the worst player on the best team" Who do you think he was talking about? Only winners are: Johnny Bananas (Won couple & hands down the best team on Exes) CT (no explaining there) Zach (Obviously Sam was the worst on BOTS) Frank "" Camila
[QUOTE=PinkRose;414733]I am not comparing them...I was referring to some of the poster that were defending nany are the same one that attack Jonna and praise CT for hooking up. Random fact: Nany have hooked up on and off camera with 4 of the 7 guys left in the game (Johnny Bananas,CT,Cohutta and Johnny R). I don't judge no one for being promiscuous, just though it was interesting.[/QUOTE] And when Leroy was knocking the sand off of him after the challenge, she was looking at him like she wanted him. She can't help herself...
[QUOTE=hannamez8;414763]In the first episode when TJ said "Some of you winners call yourself champions when you were the worst player on the best team" Who do you think he was talking about? Only winners are: Johnny Bananas (Won couple & hands down the best team on Exes) CT (no explaining there) Zach (Obviously Sam was the worst on BOTS) Frank "" Camila[/QUOTE] I don't think he was referring to anyone specifically on the current cast. He was talking about how this is the 25th season of the show, so I think it was a general statement meant for the series as a whole. There have been a [I]lot[/I] of people who have skated to a win on the back of a strong team, but I don't think any of them are on this season.
[QUOTE=Viegasjuice;414756]It wasn't bold at all. He basically got suckered into doing it by all the guys. He even had to ask laurel for her approval. He wasn't walking around steaming like "I'm gonna go in and out this guy!". He just didn't want to look like a coward in front of all the vets and let them control his decision. Weak.[/QUOTE] I thought it was bold. I understand the pressure that the other people were putting on him to make his move but I think he wanted to make a big move in challenge history. I don't blame him for trying to do this because that's exactly how I would play the game. I would want to make a name for myself and taking out Bananas is probably the biggest move someone could make. Plus the show is edited so maybe Laurel and the vets were just joking and Jordan followed through on his own accord. You never truly know what's going on. I just give him props for taking a bold chance no matter the outcome.
[QUOTE=hafnerfan69;414772]I thought it was bold. I understand the pressure that the other people were putting on him to make his move but I think he wanted to make a big move in challenge history. I don't blame him for trying to do this because that's exactly how I would play the game. I would want to make a name for myself and taking out Bananas is probably the biggest move someone could make. Plus the show is edited so maybe Laurel and the vets were just joking and Jordan followed through on his own accord. You never truly know what's going on. I just give him props for taking a bold chance no matter the outcome.[/QUOTE] He knew what the elimination round was before he did it...there was nothing bold about it...just suicidal.
This past episode just further proved that Leroy is a pathetic competitor on these shows. I have no idea why they bother to keep casting that guy.
The only notable thing that I can remember Leroy doing is climbing that rope really quickly on Rivals.
He hasn't tried in like 2 season. I miss Rivals Leroy he had so much heart. I mean I can see why he didn't try on Exes and Rivals II with Naomi and Ty as partners but he is individual now so there is no excuse. Maybe he knows he has no chance of winning lol
Look I don't like Leroy at all, but it was the smart move for him to throw the challenge.

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