[QUOTE=Youssarian;403116][B]Are you sure? [/B]The Kenny-Derrick thing was straight from Molds.
I think Rivals 2 was supposed to be another theme (Duel 3?), but was switched to Rivals 2 relatively late in production when they couldn't get their ideal cast together. That could just be speculation, though. Either way, they will often ask/test many people in case something falls through. FYI, Ruthie said her rival would've been Aneesa, but they went with Diem.
BGC-esque style, referring to how production let Nia fight with Johnny and Averey with little interference. When Nia was cast, Brad didn't want to be on it[/QUOTE]
No I'm not 100% sure I just heard somewhere, I don't remember where that Danny was originally supposed to be on Cutthroat. Maybe Kenny and Danny were supposed to be on it and Kenny was replaced by Derrick and Danny was replaced by someone else. I remember reading somewhere on here that Danny dropped out because of Melinda.
thats alot did you know facts of original castings declines and alternates of cast members
but theres a couple i think they missed like
ct was not gonna do free agents but mtv gave him more money to do it anyways
wes was not gonna do rivals 2 but i think he heard that ct was gonna be on it and was gonna be his partner
This has probably been talked about but whatever. Since Real World: Key West there have been twelve Real World Seasons and thirteen challenges. Since that time only 6 post-Key West Real Worlders have won:
Dunbar (Sydney/Cutthroat)
Frank/Zach/Sam/Ashley (San Diego 2/BOTS)
Emily (DC/Rivals 2)
Also a Fresh Meat/Austin/Key Wes/X-Treme person has made money in a final (not necessarily won) in every challenge since Gauntlet 2 with the exception of Battle of the Seasons 2.
[QUOTE=JL81790;403383]This has probably been talked about but whatever. Since Real World: Key West there have been twelve Real World Seasons and thirteen challenges. Since that time only 6 post-Key West Real Worlders have won:
Dunbar (Sydney/Cutthroat)
Frank/Zach/Sam/Ashley (San Diego 2/BOTS)
Emily (DC/Rivals 2)
Also a Fresh Meat/Austin/Key Wes/X-Treme person has made money in a final (not necessarily won) in every challenge since Gauntlet 2 with the exception of Battle of the Seasons 2.[/QUOTE]
Sick!
[QUOTE=JL81790;403383]This has probably been talked about but whatever. Since Real World: Key West there have been twelve Real World Seasons and thirteen challenges. Since that time only 6 post-Key West Real Worlders have won:
Dunbar (Sydney/Cutthroat)
Frank/Zach/Sam/Ashley (San Diego 2/BOTS)
Emily (DC/Rivals 2)
Also a Fresh Meat/Austin/Key Wes/X-Treme person has made money in a final (not necessarily won) in every challenge since Gauntlet 2 with the exception of Battle of the Seasons 2.[/QUOTE]
Tori not included?
There was a string of 9 seasons (Season #6 Battle of the Sexes - Season #14 The Duel) that featured either Darrell or Aneesa. They crazy part of this is that they never crossed paths even once during this stretch. Darrell was there if Aneesa wasn't and Aneesa was there if Darrell wasn't. Here's a detailed breakdown of how they constantly missed running into each on all these challenges:
Battle of the Sexes - Aneesa In, Darrell Out
Gauntlet - Darrell In, Aneesa Out
Inferno - Darrell In, Aneesa Out
Battle of the Sexes 2: Aneesa In, Darrell Out
Inferno II: Darrell In, Aneesa Out
Gauntlet 2: Aneesa In, Darrell Out
Fresh Meat: Darrell In, Aneesa Out
Duel: Aneesa In, Darrell Out
Inferno III: Aneesa In, Darrell Out
It's quite an extreme coincidence that for 9 straight seasons one of them was there while the other wasn't.
[QUOTE=JL81790;403383]This has probably been talked about but whatever. Since Real World: Key West there have been twelve Real World Seasons and thirteen challenges. Since that time only 6 post-Key West Real Worlders have won:
Dunbar (Sydney/Cutthroat)
Frank/Zach/Sam/Ashley (San Diego 2/BOTS)
Emily (DC/Rivals 2)
Also a Fresh Meat/Austin/Key Wes/X-Treme person has made money in a final (not necessarily won) in every challenge since Gauntlet 2 with the exception of Battle of the Seasons 2.[/QUOTE]
That's Sad honestly.
There are only 4 challenges to never repeat eliminations throughout the course of the season: all 3 Infernos and The Ruins. Rivals would have been the fifth had Blast Off not been reused.
[QUOTE=CHIblackhawk;404764]There was a string of 9 seasons (Season #6 Battle of the Sexes - Season #14 The Duel) that featured either Darrell or Aneesa. They crazy part of this is that they never crossed paths even once during this stretch. Darrell was there if Aneesa wasn't and Aneesa was there if Darrell wasn't. Here's a detailed breakdown of how they constantly missed running into each on all these challenges:
Battle of the Sexes - Aneesa In, Darrell Out
Gauntlet - Darrell In, Aneesa Out
Inferno - Darrell In, Aneesa Out
Battle of the Sexes 2: Aneesa In, Darrell Out
Inferno II: Darrell In, Aneesa Out
Gauntlet 2: Aneesa In, Darrell Out
Fresh Meat: Darrell In, Aneesa Out
Duel: Aneesa In, Darrell Out
Inferno III: Aneesa In, Darrell Out
It's quite an extreme coincidence that for 9 straight seasons one of them was there while the other wasn't.[/QUOTE]
The Duel is season 13, Inferno 3 is 14.
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;404893]how?[/QUOTE]
Only 6 people post Key West/Austin/Fresh Meat 1 have won? really? In all of the seasons after that less than a handful of people who appeared after those seasons have won. That's Pathetic and Sad.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;404902]Only 6 people post Key West/Austin/Fresh Meat 1 have won? really? In all of the seasons after that less than a handful of people who appeared after those seasons have won. That's Pathetic and Sad.[/QUOTE]
9 if you'd count Camilla and Carly which you probably wouldn't.
But Tori is road rules so you'd count her.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;404902]Only 6 people post Key West/Austin/Fresh Meat 1 have won? really? In all of the seasons after that less than a handful of people who appeared after those seasons have won. That's Pathetic and Sad.[/QUOTE]
It just goes to show how much experience/politics/being a vet DOES matter.
It still pains and perplexes me that Dunbar has won a Challenge. He's just one of those people who shouldn't be winning a Challenge. It's like if Jasmine won a Challenge. It just makes no sense.
[QUOTE=toenails;404918]It still pains and perplexes me that Dunbar has won a Challenge. He's just one of those people who shouldn't be winning a Challenge. It's like if Jasmine won a Challenge. It just makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
I don't know. Dunbar isn't terrible...he's just not great. I don't think it's fair to compare him to Jasmine. Also, Cutthroat was the last team challenge.
Being a team challenge, "secondary" competitors can easily make and win the finals. Luke would in this boat if the Gray team won. Look at the Gauntlet 2, I know it's the way the eliminations went, but it seemed as if half the house never even thought of eliminations. Not hard for decent competitors to win a challenge at all if it's a team setup.
[QUOTE=JL81790;403383]This has probably been talked about but whatever. Since Real World: Key West there have been twelve Real World Seasons and thirteen challenges. [B]Since that time only 6 post-Key West Real Worlders have won:
Dunbar (Sydney/Cutthroat)
Frank/Zach/Sam/Ashley (San Diego 2/BOTS)
Emily (DC/Rivals 2)
[/B]
Also a Fresh Meat/Austin/Key Wes/X-Treme person has made money in a final (not necessarily won) in every challenge since Gauntlet 2 with the exception of Battle of the Seasons 2.[/QUOTE]
Bolded part is important for the next two responses:
[QUOTE=Debut Album;404902]Only 6 people post Key West/Austin/Fresh Meat 1 have won? really? In all of the seasons after that less than a handful of people who appeared after those seasons have won. That's Pathetic and Sad.[/QUOTE]
Within the realms of the Real World, yes. As explained above.
In fact, dating back from The Duel (the first challenge with Austin / Fresh Meat (original) / Key West participants) there have been a total of [B]nineteen[/B] winners (two people winning multiple times) that weren't part of the three groups:
-Jodi -- RR: X-Treme (The Duel)
-Abram -- RR: South Pacific (Inferno III)
-Derrick (x3) -- RR: X-Treme (Inferno III, Island, Ruins)
-Tonya -- RW: Chicago (Inferno III)
-Frank R. -- RW: Las Vegas (Gauntlet III)
-Jillian -- RR: X-Treme (Gauntlet III)
-Tori (x2) -- RR: Viewer's Revenge (Gauntlet III, Cutthroat)
-Rachel R. -- RR: Campus Crawl (Duel II)
-Susie -- RR: Down Under (Ruins)
-Landon -- RW: Philadelphia (FM2)
-Carley -- FM2 (FM2)
-Brad -- RW: San Diego (Cutthroat)
-Dunbar -- RW: Sydney (Cutthroat)
-Camila -- Spring Break Challenge (Exes)
-Ashley, Sam, Zach, Frank -- RW: San Diego 2 (Seasons)
-CT -- RW: Paris (Rivals II)
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;404908]9 if you'd count Camilla and Carly which you probably wouldn't.
But Tori is road rules so you'd count her.[/QUOTE]
Umm...JL8190 was talking about [B]Real Worlders[/B] and Debut was talking about the amount of [B]Real Worlders[/B] that won, so I don't see how Road Rules, Fresh Meat, and Camila play into the equation one bit.
We get it; you hate Debut. We don't need to be seeing [B]this[/B] every other post replying to him.
Also, it's [B]Camila[/B] and [B]Carley[/B].
[QUOTE=ItalianBeats;404939]Bolded part is important for the next two responses:
Within the realms of the Real World, yes. As explained above.
In fact, dating back from The Duel (the first challenge with Austin / Fresh Meat (original) / Key West participants) there have been a total of [B]nineteen[/B] winners (two people winning multiple times) that weren't part of the three groups:
-Jodi -- RR: X-Treme (The Duel)
-Abram -- RR: South Pacific (Inferno III)
-Derrick (x3) -- RR: X-Treme (Inferno III, Island, Ruins)
-Tonya -- RW: Chicago (Inferno III)
-Frank R. -- RW: Las Vegas (Gauntlet III)
-Jillian -- RR: X-Treme (Gauntlet III)
-Tori (x2) -- RR: Viewer's Revenge (Gauntlet III, Cutthroat)
-Rachel R. -- RR: Campus Crawl (Duel II)
-Susie -- RR: Down Under (Ruins)
-Landon -- RW: Philadelphia (FM2)
-Carley -- FM2 (FM2)
-Brad -- RW: San Diego (Cutthroat)
-Dunbar -- RW: Sydney (Cutthroat)
-Camila -- Spring Break Challenge (Exes)
-Ashley, Sam, Zach, Frank -- RW: San Diego 2 (Seasons)
-CT -- RW: Paris (Rivals II)
Umm...JL8190 was talking about [B]Real Worlders[/B] and Debut was talking about the amount of [B]Real Worlders[/B] that won, so I don't see how Road Rules, Fresh Meat, and Camila play into the equation one bit.
We get it; you hate Debut. We don't need to be seeing [B]this[/B] every other post replying to him.
Also, it's [B]Camila[/B] and [B]Carley[/B].[/QUOTE]
Debut said only 6 people not real worlders so I was saying 3 more did.....
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;404946]Debut said only 6 people not real worlders so I was saying 3 more did.....[/QUOTE]
...
Let me repeat myself, again:
[QUOTE=JL81790;403383][B]Since that time only 6 post-Key West Real Worlders have won:
Dunbar (Sydney/Cutthroat)
Frank/Zach/Sam/Ashley (San Diego 2/BOTS)
Emily (DC/Rivals 2)
[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Debut Album;404902][B]Only 6 people post Key West/Austin/Fresh Meat 1 have won? really? In all of the seasons after that less than a handful of people who appeared after those seasons have won. That's Pathetic and Sad.[/B][/QUOTE]
Are you seeing the connection yet?
And if you don't, here's something else to follow up:
Upon JL81790's post, Debut replied to the comment with "That's Sad honestly." Nostalgic replied to Debut's comment with "how?" to which Debut's bolded statement appeared as a reply.
[QUOTE=ItalianBeats;404949]...
Let me repeat myself, again:
Are you seeing the connection yet?
And if you don't, here's something else to follow up:
Upon JL81790's post, Debut replied to the comment with "That's Sad honestly." Nostalgic replied to Debut's comment with "how?" to which Debut's bolded statement appeared as a reply.[/QUOTE]
I was still saying its not that bad because 9 people have because its worse of only 6 did...
Also about the Carley & Camila, its called auto correct because those are the normal ways people spell those names
[QUOTE=toenails;404918]It still pains and perplexes me that Dunbar has won a Challenge. He's just one of those people who shouldn't be winning a Challenge. It's like if Jasmine won a Challenge. It just makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
Look stop being bitter. Jasmine winning would be cool instead of some stupid *** ********* like JB win. He needs to find a ******* j-o-b.
[QUOTE=toenails;404918]It still pains and perplexes me that Dunbar has won a Challenge. He's just one of those people who shouldn't be winning a Challenge. It's like if Jasmine won a Challenge. It just makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
What do you mean shouldn't win a challenge? what makes him less deserving than anyone else? You are aware that several people who aren't elite competitors have won challenges Right? Why can't he join that club?
[QUOTE=stjimmy61892;406758]Chet joined Jon (Real World: LA) as the only person to be the first boot multiple times, right?[/QUOTE]
If you aren't counting kicked off for being in a fight, Tyrie was the first male eliminated on the Inferno 3, Rivals, and Rivals 2.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;406759]If you aren't counting kicked off for being in a fight, Tyrie was the first male eliminated on the Inferno 3, Rivals, and Rivals 2.[/QUOTE]
Oh damn, you're right. Nevermind then.
[QUOTE=stjimmy61892;406834]Oh damn, you're right. Nevermind then.[/QUOTE]
You're right too an extent as well, if fighting isn't taken into consideration, Tyrie would've only been the first male sent home on Rivals 2 because on The inferno 3 it was CT and on Rivals it was Adam.
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