[QUOTE=UrbanTactics;402512]lmao, you would do anything to protect Jonna. Little creepy man[/QUOTE]
Not true at all. Jonna has zero chance to win any individual challenge.
I think you're slightly obsessed with me.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;402518]Not true at all. Jonna has zero chance to win any individual challenge.
I think you're slightly obsessed with me.[/QUOTE]
"I'm a lawyer."
>spends all his time on vevmo.
right...
[QUOTE=UrbanTactics;402521]"I'm a lawyer."
>spends all his time on vevmo.
right...[/QUOTE]
LOL--all my time. Tell me the next time you see me on here before 7pm. Never happens
[QUOTE=hannamez8;402503]So how is that Chet's problem? This is an individual game even though they're working as a team, both of them are at fault as well for losing it for their team when they had the time advantage. Chet had to ask Emilee to speak up.
Jonna just didn't know how to solve it, because if she did she would of said something unlike Emilee. We've seen enough of Jonna to know that.[/QUOTE]
It was Chet's fault because he was team leader. Part of being captain is making sure everyone has the opportunity to perform to the best of their ability. If your showboating personality is getting in the way of people being able to perform, then you're doing something wrong. I
[QUOTE=kvm1977;402508]Jonna doesn't speak up. Jonna gets quiet. She's passive aggressive. Even with Sarah she didn't fight she just questioned it and moved on. Chet dominating in those situations. Jonna's not confident around guys...she her history. Chet got blamed because he was to blame.[/QUOTE]
In BOTS2 Jonna wasn't the same on Rivals 1 where she was the only female rookie team. She talk **** about other teams, yelled at Jasmine a couple of times from what i remember, and would take control at times.
Everyone is to blame and proved Jonna isn't that great of puzzles as people seem to think. If anything I would of voted Emilee to elimiatoin since she was holding back even though she solved it.
[QUOTE=hannamez8;402525]In BOTS2 Jonna wasn't the same on Rivals 1 where she was the only female rookie team. She talk **** about other teams, yelled at Jasmine a couple of times from what i remember, and would take control at times.
Everyone is to blame and proved Jonna isn't that great of puzzles as people seem to think. If anything I would of voted Emilee to elimiatoin since she was holding back even though she solved it.[/QUOTE]
Talking **** about other teams and putting a girl under 5 foot in her place has nothing to do with this. She backed down to CJ, Zach and Frank during BOTS2 and that cost her team. Jonna doesn't fight for what she wants against guys. We've seen that.
I still think this "I'd vote in X for not performing" is stupid. The cast will see that sooner than later
[QUOTE=proceed;402524]It was Chet's fault because he was team leader. Part of being captain is making sure everyone has the opportunity to perform to the best of their ability. If your showboating personality is getting in the way of people being able to perform, then you're doing something wrong. I think Nia did well as captain because she knew when to step back, and let someone better take the lead. Chet should've let Jonna take the lead in the puzzle.[/QUOTE]
Chet was randomly chosen to pick teams and Theresa even said everyone fit their role perfectly. So why is it that everyone sucked on the puzzle not just Chet. Chet didn't try to take the led, where did you see that. I saw Jonna holding puzzle pieces and try to piece them together everyone had their chance. She couldn't do it either. Chet tried to get Emilee to perform and she solved it. But this is an individual game so everyone should be fighting to win it not blame the 'team captian'. They're all adults, no one should be scared or shy to squeak up when they signed up to compete. Everyone on the puzzle lost it for them that's why they lost.
Nia stepped back? How? All she had to do was run. When did she step back?
I am a little confused about the rules for the mission. Was there a time penalty each time someone fell off the log? Or, were the times only going to come into play if the teams tied on the number of players that got across successfully? Does that mean that hypothetically a team could have won if all of their log runners just jumped off the edge right away? If it is true that the times didn't really matter because the red team did not get enough players across the log, then why are y'all debating about who is at fault for red being behind due to the puzzle? I don't particularly care one way or the other about Chet, so I am not defending him, but I don't see the point in debating a moot point.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;402527]Talking **** about other teams and putting a girl under 5 foot in her place has nothing to do with this. She backed down to CJ, Zach and Frank during BOTS2 and that cost her team. Jonna doesn't fight for what she wants against guys. We've seen that.
I still think this "I'd vote in X for not performing" is stupid. The cast will see that sooner than later[/QUOTE]
It shows she isn't soft-spoken or whatever excuse you had for her. If you're claming she backs down to guys that doesn't excuse her for anything. She and her team couldn't solve it until Emile chimed in.
[QUOTE=hannamez8;402531]It shows she isn't soft-spoken or whatever excuse you had for her. If you're claming she backs down to guys that doesn't excuse her for anything. She and her team couldn't solve it until Emile chimed in.[/QUOTE]
She is soft-spoken. Who said it was an excuse? Just an accurate recap of how she handles situations. She has to improve on that in life--and not just for the challenges.
Chet was primarily to blame. And, as much as I like Theresa, the idea that Isaac was a good fit for a puzzle is crazy
[QUOTE=lilabennet;402530]I am a little confused about the rules for the mission. Was there a time penalty each time someone fell off the log? Or, were the times only going to come into play if the teams tied on the number of players that got across successfully? Does that mean that hypothetically a team could have won if all of their log runners just jumped off the edge right away? If it is true that the times didn't really matter because the red team did not get enough players across the log, then why are y'all debating about who is at fault for red being behind due to the puzzle? I don't particularly care one way or the other about Chet, so I am not defending him, but I don't see the point in debating a moot point.[/QUOTE]
The Red team had opened their puzzle first before black but couldn't solve it minutes after the black team solved it. But it seems to be that Chet is to blame for everything because he was randomly selected as 'Team Captain' and that it's not the girls fault that their 'soft-spoken' and can't speak for themselves and apparently that's excusable in a individual game format. So of course Chet should be blamed, not Issac, Jonna, and Emilee
[QUOTE=hannamez8;402535]The Red team had opened their puzzle first before black but couldn't solve it minutes after the black team solved it. But it seems to be that Chet is to blame for everything because he was randomly selected as 'Team Captain' and that it's not the girls fault that their 'soft-spoken' and can't speak for themselves and apparently that's excusable in a individual game format. So of course Chet should be blamed, not Issac, Jonna, and Emilee[/QUOTE]
My point was that in the end the puzzle did not matter, because the red team only had one player get across the log.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;402533]She is soft-spoken. Who said it was an excuse? Just an accurate recap of how she handles situations. She has to improve on that in life--and not just for the challenges.
Chet was primarily to blame. And, as much as I like Theresa, the idea that Isaac was a good fit for a puzzle is crazy[/QUOTE]
You can say she's soft-spoken but she isn't shy or scared to compete.
She didn't know how to solve it, that's that. You can't blame Chet for the whole puzzle team not being able to solve it. He didn't hold them back or tried to push his ideas and ignore theirs. Everyone has participating. That's that.
[QUOTE=Lostcity;402539]The puzzle people for team chet are all at fault. If anything Chet showed horrible captain skills by not choosing Ct and Laurel first.[/QUOTE]
He did pick Frank and Camilia first who did have the best performance in that mission. Frank took the lead and Camila was the only girl on her team to ring the bell. Nia had CT but Chet did manage to get Zach who is the biggest one now.
[QUOTE=lilabennet;402536]My point was that in the end the puzzle did not matter, because the red team only had one player get across the log.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't mean we ignore other people's performance.
[QUOTE=SourWolf;402433]You think it made him look "weak". I don't agree. It made him look smart. Some people are failing to realize that this game is simply that, a [B]game.[/B] Whatever injuries they suffer because of the Challenges is something they have to deal with in real life.[/QUOTE]
It's not just a "game", it's a competition for a LOT of money.
[QUOTE=JayTee;402619]It's not just a "game", it's a competition for a LOT of money.[/QUOTE]
It's still a game. All the competitors refer to it as a game.
Jonna is my favorite person in the whole Challenge franchise, but c'mon... Let's be real. She didn't know how to solve it. I was watching her during the challenge and she obviously looked confused and unsure of how to solve it.
[QUOTE=Youssarian;402640]Jonna is my favorite person in the whole Challenge franchise, but c'mon... Let's be real. She didn't know how to solve it. I was watching her during the challenge and she obviously looked confused and unsure of how to solve it.[/QUOTE]
I wonder if they could have solved it first if Cara Maria had been in the puzzle group. Isn't she supposed to be great at puzzles?
[QUOTE=SourWolf;402642]I wonder if they could have solved it first if Cara Maria had been in the puzzle group. Isn't she supposed to be great at puzzles?[/QUOTE]
Nah. I remember her saying the reason she and Darrell lost the exile on FM2 is they were so clueless with the puzzles and took the max time. Maybe she's gotten better but I think the puzzles on the Rivals 2 finale were a little flukey.
[QUOTE=JL81790;402643]Nah. I remember her saying the reason she and Darrell lost the exile on FM2 is they were so clueless with the puzzles and took the max time. Maybe she's gotten better but I think the puzzles on the Rivals 2 finale were a little flukey.[/QUOTE]
IDK about flukey. Building a giant cube out of irregular shapes is pretty impressive. But I doubt they had any strategy for that.
Tangrams are easy if you practice them. Once you figure out where you want the large pieces, you can create the remaining shape using the other pieces you have. CT and Aneesa have done Tangrams in the past, the newbies may were certainly not that lucky.
[QUOTE=SourWolf;402628]It's still a game. All the competitors refer to it as a game.[/QUOTE]
Well yeah they call it a game but they don't mean it like "oh it's just some game that I don't care about" or something taking those lines. They each know that this "game" is tough and it'll break people down regardless of how strong they are both inside and out. All these challengers know what they signed up for when they accepted to do the Challenge.
[QUOTE=JayTee;402658]Well yeah they call it a game but they don't mean it like "oh it's just some game that I don't care about" or something taking those lines. They each know that this "game" is tough and it'll break people down regardless of how strong they are both inside and out. All these challengers know what they signed up for when they accepted to do the Challenge.[/QUOTE]
Of course they know what they signed up for. But most of them also realize that whatever happens to them during the Challenge, like an injury, is something they still have deal with when they leave. Yes, it's a tough competition, but it is still a game. It's a game that should not be considered more important than the safety and health of the people competing.
[QUOTE=SourWolf;402660]Of course they know what they signed up for. But most of them also realize that whatever happens to them during the Challenge, like an injury, is something they still have deal with when they leave. Yes, it's a tough competition, but it is still a game. [B]It's a game that should not be considered more important than the safety and health of the people competing.[/B]
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Exactly. You can't expect them to put their health and safety on the line for a game that's not even worth a whole lot of money.
I'm reconsidering my stance that Chet should've kept going. I hate quitters but according to Jemmye's interview the nearest doctor was 2 hours away and when he got back to the states he had to not only get his stitches that he got in Uruguay redone, but he also had to see a plastic surgeon.
I also highly doubt, with the stitch job he got in Uruguay, they would have let him keep competing. Chet doesn't have a history of being a quitter...**** the kid swam a half mile with a concussion on Cutthroat. Sometimes you just have to give someone a pass. It wasn't a Big Easy or Shauvon situation, so I excuse Chet on this one.
[QUOTE=JL81790;402705]I'm reconsidering my stance that Chet should've kept going. I hate quitters but according to Jemmye's interview the nearest doctor was 2 hours away and when he got back to the states he had to not only get his stitches that he got in Uruguay redone, but he also had to see a plastic surgeon.
I also highly doubt, with the stitch job he got in Uruguay, they would have let him keep competing. Chet doesn't have a history of being a quitter...**** the kid swam a half mile with a concussion on Cutthroat. Sometimes you just have to give someone a pass. It wasn't a Big Easy or Shauvon situation, so I excuse Chet on this one.[/QUOTE]
I didn't like his attitude when he was giving that interview after the elimination, it was if he didn't really care about the challenge and wanted a pretty face instead. I still stand by my statement that it made him look weak, but idk I never really seen a chin injury so it doesn't seem like that big of a deal unless the next few missions involved head to head contact.
Didnt Derrick start bleeding a lot and still kept going after Riot Act on Cutthroat?
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