[QUOTE=El Scorcho;400441]I think Nany would beat Sarah in a physical elimination round with ease. In 7 challenges, we have never seen Sarah do anything physical. I think Nany is a lot more fiery than Sarah. That doesn't mean that think Nany is a better competitor that Sarah, but I do think Nany would beat Sarah in a physical elimination round.[/QUOTE]
She would beat Sarah from the ruins on a physical elimination, the one from now that is doing Emily Crossfit challenge and its in much better shape than Nany highly doubt it.
Coming from a Nany fan and someone that its not a fan of Sarah.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;400442]No idea how you reached this conclusion. I think Sarah cares far more about being there, winning and is more fiery. [B]We haven't seen anything from Nany in two challenges so far[/B]. I like Nany but people are out of their mind if they think Sarah wouldn't be favored over Nany in anything physical let alone "beat her with ease".[/QUOTE]
Okay but its two challenges. How many challenges has Sarah performed well on? I would say that the ONLY challenge that she did significantly well on was The Ruins. So if Nany does perform well on Free Agents than that would make Sarah and Nany on an equal playing field in my opinion.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;400446]Okay but its two challenges. How many challenges has Sarah performed well on? I would say that the ONLY challenge that she did significantly well on was The Ruins. So if Nany does perform well on Free Agents than that would make Sarah and Nany on an equal playing field in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Sarah's performed well in basically every challenge other than the Cutthroat final and got better and better each time.
Nany needs multiple good changes to be on an equal playing field
Sarah, right now, would crush Nany
[QUOTE=PinkRose;400445]Kelly Anne would destroyed Nany on a physical one vs one.
Would also beat Sarah.
She is in great shape the best one she have ever been in my opinion[/QUOTE]
Okay you saw this is in an Instagram picture of her and how she eats healthy. How great! Many people do that its Instagram. Let her do another REAL challenge and we'll see what shes about. Cause right now love her personality but physically I never understood the hype and credit she gets from you guys.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;400449]Sarah's performed well in basically every challenge other than the Cutthroat final and got better and better each time.
Nany needs multiple good changes to be on an equal playing field
Sarah, right now, would crush Nany[/QUOTE]
Sarah sucked on Fresh Meat II and Rivals! She only went up against Katie and Johanna (who didn't even try) in The Ruins. I really wanna see what Sarah can do on her own because right now I'm not impressed either. She gets way to much credit from you guys as well.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;400449]Sarah's performed well in basically every challenge other than the Cutthroat final and got better and better each time.
Nany needs multiple good changes to be on an equal playing field
[B]Sarah, right now, would crush Nany[/B][/QUOTE]
And how are YOU reaching this conclusion? What physical challenge/elimination round have you seen Sarah in that would justify Sarah "crushing" Nany?
[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;400451]Sarah sucked on Fresh Meat II and Rivals! She only went up against Katie and Johanna (who didn't even try) in The Ruins. I really wanna see what Sarah can do on her own because right now I'm not impressed either. She gets way to much credit from you guys as well.[/QUOTE]
How did she suck on FM2. She lost to the best team with an awful partner
Sarah's earned respect over her 7 challenges and has continually improved.
She was great in Seasons for starters and has been screwed over twice.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;400452]And how are YOU reaching this conclusion? What physical challenge/elimination round have you seen Sarah in that would justify Sarah "crushing" Nany?[/QUOTE]
You said Nany would beat Sarah with ease which is absolutely laughable
Sarah's doing Crossfit and was more physical prior. I find it hysterical that anyone doesn't see how Sarah's transformation
I like Nany as a person far better but Sarah would kill her and the majority of people out there realize that
[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;400450]Okay you saw this is in an Instagram picture of her and how she eats healthy. How great! Many people do that its Instagram. Let her do another REAL challenge and we'll see what shes about. Cause right now love her personality but physically I never understood the hype and credit she gets from you guys.[/QUOTE]
No, her Crossfit score talk for itself. If it was just instagram I would be saying Jessica is a beast when she is not even when you guys hype her about lifting Ana one of the skinniest girls there for 2 minutes.
Kellyanne is muscle, nany is gym to look good and a lot of beer. Nany have done way less than Kelly Anne physically and you are hyping her.
I love Nany, but just saying.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;400454]You said Nany would beat Sarah with ease which is absolutely laughable
Sarah's doing Crossfit and was more physical prior. [B]I find it hysterical that anyone doesn't see how Sarah's transformation[/B]
I like Nany as a person far better but Sarah would kill her and the majority of people out there realize that[/QUOTE]
Well the last time I saw Sarah was on Rivals II and she looked the exact same as she did on any challenge she did before. I don't follow these people around on social media so I do apologize I haven't noticed Sarah posting selfies going to her local Crossfit gym.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;400457]Well the last time I saw Sarah was on Rivals II and she looked the exact same as she did on any challenge she did before. I don't follow these people around on social media so I do apologize I haven't noticed Sarah posting selfies going to her local Crossfit gym.[/QUOTE]
If you think Sarah looked the same on Rivals 2 & The Ruins I have no idea what to tell you.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;400456]No, her Crossfit score talk for itself. If it was just instagram I would be saying Jessica is a beast when she is not even when you guys hype her about lifting Ana one of the skinniest girls there for 2 minutes.
Kellyanne is muscle, nany is gym to look good and a lot of beer. Nany have done way less than Kelly Anne physically and you are hyping her.
I love Nany, but just saying.[/QUOTE]
How do you know her crossfit score?
The only thing Nany has done physically is lose to McKenzie a smaller weaker girl who she said shed break so why do you expect her to beat Sarah or KellyAnne
[QUOTE=kvm1977;400459]If you think Sarah looked the same on Rivals 2 & The Ruins I have no idea what to tell you.[/QUOTE]
I don't think my format would have weak people in the end because at the end of the day these cast of people may let someone weaker get far but not to the final challenge far. I can see why you said that because you love the last place format (zzzzz) but I think this format would be different.
And Sarah the challenges Sarah has been good on were with teams or a partner. Lets see what Sarah's got ob her own is all I'm saying before we jump to her being amazing!
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;400461]The only thing Nany has done physically is lose to McKenzie a smaller weaker girl who she said shed break so why do you expect her to beat Sarah or KellyAnne[/QUOTE]
That challenge was so watered down. People were practically throwing it. It should have never been a challenge to begin with. Nany gets better each season and has showed me more as a competitor than KellyAnne has and both have done 2 challenges.
[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;400464]I don't think my format would have weak people in the end because at the end of the day these cast of people may let someone weaker get far but not to the final challenge far. I can see why you said that because you love the last place format (zzzzz) but I think this format would be different.
And Sarah the challenges Sarah has been good on were with teams or a partner. Lets see what Sarah's got ob her own is all I'm saying before we jump to her being amazing![/QUOTE]
Sarah would be better on her own--partners have screwed her royally...Vinny, Trishelle, Vinny & Devyn
Someone like Devyn would never get thrown into an elimination round because they all want her at the end so they're guaranteed of finishing first or second. I don't mind new ideas (though I do think you should be punished for finishing in last in an individual challenge) but you have to acknowledge that a problem does exist. Use the Free Agent cast. I mean, why would any winner say "Jasmine and Devyn" for example when they can throw in people that are possible threats. For example, you'd throw in someone like Jonna or Cara Maria early and often knowing they aren't a threat in eliminations but could be a threat in the end. You'd throw in Laurel against people like Aneesa, Theresa, Camila...well that's about it as the cast has pretty much no one that's a threat...maybe Jonna or Cara while hoping it is a mental challenge. There's nothing to gain by throwing in weak people. You save them hoping someone is dumb enough to give you an easy matchup or someone easy to beat in a final.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;400470]Sarah would be better on her own--partners have screwed her royally...Vinny, Trishelle, Vinny & Devyn
Someone like Devyn would never get thrown into an elimination round because they all want her at the end so they're guaranteed of finishing first or second. I don't mind new ideas (though I do think you should be punished for finishing in last in an individual challenge) but you have to acknowledge that a problem does exist. Use the Free Agent cast. I mean, why would any winner say "Jasmine and Devyn" for example when they can throw in people that are possible threats. For example, you'd throw in someone like Jonna or Cara Maria early and often knowing they aren't a threat in eliminations but could be a threat in the end. You'd throw in Laurel against people like Aneesa, Theresa, Camila...well that's about it as the cast has pretty much no one that's a threat...maybe Jonna or Cara while hoping it is a mental challenge. There's nothing to gain by throwing in weak people. You save them hoping someone is dumb enough to give you an easy matchup or someone easy to beat in a final.[/QUOTE]
I just looked at it in a Big Brother type of way even though thats a different game but still. That there would be more strategy and politics to picking to opponents than the way you are looking at it.
I get what your saying but eventually towards the end Jasmine and Devyn would get sent it. Also, remember some missions are partners and teams. Some people (the more smart players) would wanna get rid of them because they suck and it would stop them from winning missions and being safe.
[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;400471]I just looked at it in a Big Brother type of way even though thats a different game but still. That there would be more strategy and politics to picking to opponents than the way you are looking at it.
I get what your saying but eventually towards the end Jasmine and Devyn would get sent it. Also, remember some missions are partners and teams. Some people (the more smart players) would wanna get rid of them because they suck and it would stop them from winning missions and being safe.[/QUOTE]
Big Brother is about a vote at the end--not a physical race that requires endurance.
Why would they get sent in? Getting rid of them doesn't help you at the end and it helps everyone in the short term. There's no advantage to taking out weak players with this format. How do you think it helps one person more than another. Smart people would never send them in. Never.
Again, I don't have a real problem with your format but Devyn & Jasmine would make the final or at least one of them. The final mission may result in one of them having to go in (as neither of them would likely win) but never before that. Unless they were on the same team for a 3 on 3 mission that lost. It's all about scenarios. You have to run them all
[QUOTE=kvm1977;400473]Big Brother is about a vote at the end--not a physical race that requires endurance.
Why would they get sent in? Getting rid of them doesn't help you at the end and it helps everyone in the short term. There's no advantage to taking out weak players with this format. How do you think it helps one person more than another. Smart people would never send them in. Never.
Again, I don't have a real problem with your format but Devyn & Jasmine would make the final or at least one of them. The final mission may result in one of them having to go in (as neither of them would likely win) but never before that. Unless they were on the same team for a 3 on 3 mission that lost. It's all about scenarios. You have to run them all[/QUOTE]
Well maybe there could be one mission where last place automatically goes home to at least keep one weak person from going to the final but I only had really one TRUE weak link in my cast and that was Jasmine who I could potentially see sliding by. Plus, Jasmine would definitely get 4th too so all would be well but I get what your saying.
It would be interesting to see how things would play out and how they would pick match ups considering the different way challenges would be broken up and also they would find out there teams right before each challenge. So they could pre-strategize but what good would that do because things could end up different.
[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;400464]I don't think my format would have weak people in the end because at the end of the day these cast of people may let someone weaker get far but not to the final challenge far. I can see why you said that because you love the last place format (zzzzz) but I think this format would be different.
And Sarah the challenges Sarah has been good on were with teams or a partner. Lets see what Sarah's got ob her own is all I'm saying before we jump to her being amazing![/QUOTE]
How is Nany better then Sarah Sarah out performed her on seasons despite being on a MUCH weaker team...
And use logic, do you really think if someone like Cory won the first mission he'd do Knight vs Nick or do you think he'd do Jordan vs Mark!, people would get rid of the strong players first and leave the weak ones who they know they can beat in the final. Also jasmine isn't the only weak person there's Knight jemmye Nick Jessica Ayyiia and I can't picture Jamie or Ashley M being strong either but we don't know
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;400498]How is Nany better then Sarah Sarah out performed her on seasons despite being on a MUCH weaker team...
And use logic, do you really think if someone like Cory won the first mission he'd do Knight vs Nick or do you think he'd do Jordan vs Mark!, people would get rid of the strong players first and leave the weak ones who they know they can beat in the final. Also jasmine isn't the only weak person there's Knight jemmye Nick Jessica Ayyiia and I can't picture Jamie or Ashley M being strong either but we don't know[/QUOTE]
Your starting to put words in my mouth, I did not say Nany outperformed Sarah! I just said Sarah has never competed on an individual level for her to get so much praise that she would crush the competition.
And not all the challenges are individual. And yeah if Cory did win I hope he would put in Mark vs Jordan (I would) but I doubt it, he would probably do Tyler vs Mark lol. I think the new kids would stick together in the beginning. But if thats the way the cookie crumbles than so be it. Its a game, not all the time it is fair but thats why winning a mission is important so your safe. So that won't possibly happen.
And another thing, this where politics would come in to play and making deals and trying to protect yourself comes into play at. I love it!
Livewitpeace, I can definitely see where you're coming from, and I admire your innovation. Usually I do agree with you, but everyone else is right in this situation - a format like the one you posted would definitely lead itself to people keeping the weak people around the whole time. Maybe a little tweaking could be done to change that.
[QUOTE=Youssarian;400529]Livewitpeace, I can definitely see where you're coming from, and I admire your innovation. Usually I do agree with you, but everyone else is right in this situation - a format like the one you posted would definitely lead itself to people keeping the weak people around the whole time. Maybe a little tweaking could be done to change that.[/QUOTE]
Only tweaking I made is like the 2nd or 3rd last challenge is individual and last place automatically goes home but same rules will further apply!
[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;400504]Your starting to put words in my mouth, I did not say Nany outperformed Sarah! I just said Sarah has never competed on an individual level for her to get so much praise that she would crush the competition.
And not all the challenges are individual. And yeah if [B]Cory did win I hope he would put in Mark vs Jordan (I would) but I doubt it, he would probably do Tyler vs Mark lol[/B]. I think the new kids would stick together in the beginning. But if thats the way the cookie crumbles than so be it. Its a game, not all the time it is fair but thats why winning a mission is important so your safe. So that won't possibly happen.
And another thing, this where politics would come in to play and making deals and trying to protect yourself comes into play at. I love it![/QUOTE]
What the **** are we talking about?
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;400541]What the **** are we talking about?[/QUOTE]
I posted this challenge idea I came up with and everyone hates it because a couple weak players will make it to the end. You know same old same old lol
But regarding The Challenge I came up with, I know Survivor is a different show but don't players try to keep weak players in the end to get votes? If so do you guys like that. I know voting is different than eliminations and an endurance final but I was just wondering.
[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;400545]But regarding The Challenge I came up with, I know Survivor is a different show but don't players try to keep weak players in the end to get votes? If so do you guys like that. I know voting is different than eliminations and an endurance final but I was just wondering.[/QUOTE]
In survivor that's okay because weak people can still get votes in the final unlike weak people on the challenge in the final who have no shot
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;400555]In survivor that's okay because weak people can still get votes in the final unlike weak people on the challenge in the final who have no shot[/QUOTE]
But do weak people still win though? Or does the strong person still win but maybe not with the majority of votes. like is it obvious to tell who will win Survivor?
[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;400556]But do weak people still win though? Or does the strong person still win but maybe not with the majority of votes. like is it obvious to tell who will win Survivor?[/QUOTE]
Weak people do still win survivor sometimes see Samoa however what does survivor have to do with this?
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