The Challenge: Favorite/Fantasy Casts

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;392708]Its pretty rude to say Dan getting sober and healthy is boring.[/QUOTE] But true

[QUOTE=kvm1977;392738]But true[/QUOTE] Kinda true but I like Dan. So who do you think would win the battle of the exes I posted

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;392739]Kinda true but I like Dan. So who do you think would win the battle of the exes I posted[/QUOTE] I'm glad Dan is sober but he's definitely boring now Any time there's partners I expect the strongest girl to win unless her partner is a nightmare. So, Dustin and Cooke would have a good shot but I'd bet on Jordan-Sarah. I wish Mallory had a better partner. Pete-Jenn would probably make the final again

I don't remember Mallory hooking up with anyone else so yeah. Yeah I'd agree with your choices

[QUOTE=kvm1977;392737]All you're doing by suggesting a "all new school cast" is asking for the show to end...you need some veterans so older people will watch. As long as they want to compete you let them. The show has made two horrible mistakes--the first is forcing out vets...the second is by waiting as long as they did to introduce certain cast--like NOLA2. Poor planning. I have nothing against your "idea" but that cast is a disaster waiting to happen and you're smart enough to know that. I hate some of the twists but that's normal...not everyone likes the same things[/QUOTE] I agree with you about the vets. Cutting off the road rulers and blocking them from all tbe recent challenges is the worst thing they could have done. The road rulers did a lot to put this show on the map and take it to the next level. Road Rules produced a lot of fan favorite challengers like Mark, Abram, Derrick, Darrell, Rachel, etc. that always brought in big ratings. It's pretty stupid that MTV decides out of nowhere that those from the RR franchise aren't good enough to be on the show anymore.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;392737]All you're doing by suggesting a "all new school cast" is asking for the show to end...you need some veterans so older people will watch. As long as they want to compete you let them. The show has made two horrible mistakes--the first is forcing out vets...the second is by waiting as long as they did to introduce certain cast--like NOLA2. Poor planning. I have nothing against your "idea" but that cast is a disaster waiting to happen and you're smart enough to know that. I hate some of the twists but that's normal...not everyone likes the same things[/QUOTE] See I think differently now. I BY NO MEANS WANT THE CHALLENGE TO END! I've been watching since The Gauntlet, I'm obsessed! I still think a New School cast wouldn't be bad. For some reason vets just don't intrigue anymore and the transition has to be made soon. You guys don't agree but others do. The show is changing obviously and change can be good! CT is probably done, Wes is on the fence, Johnny will never leave but he needs a break, Mark is only good with Johnny, I like Brad but will he really return, same with Derrick. As for the girls, Ruthie I like, Robin is whatever, Aneesa needs a break, Diem and Paula retired and I believe, Sarah needs a break, and Rachel I don't know if she will return. The show is changing is basically what I'm trying to say and the show won't go anywhere if the fans don't embrace it and just put cancellation out there!

The challenge Redemption Location- Tallinn Estonia 13 men and 13 women head to Tallin with one thing in common, they return for redemption after they had either a bad performance, a bad partner, Screwed up in a final, quit or even " punched" somebody. Format individual, the winners of mission gets $500 and decide who faces the loser of the mission in the showdown. 3 girls and 3 guys make the final. [COLOR="#FF0000"]Coral[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FF0000"]Zach[/COLOR] [COLOR="#00FF00"]Sarah[/COLOR] [COLOR="#00FF00"]Darrell[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000FF"]Tina[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000FF"]Steven[/COLOR] [B]Mallory[/B] [B]Abram[/B] [COLOR="#FFFF00"]Brianna [/COLOR] [COLOR="#FFFF00"]Brandon[/COLOR] [COLOR="#800080"]Ruthie[/COLOR] [COLOR="#800080"]Jordan [/COLOR] [COLOR="#00FFFF"]KellyAnne[/COLOR] [COLOR="#00FFFF"]CJ[/COLOR] [COLOR="#008000"]Aneesa[/COLOR] [COLOR="#008000"]Noor[/COLOR] [COLOR="#A9A9A9"]Beth[/COLOR] [COLOR="#A9A9A9"]Trey[/COLOR] [COLOR="#ff3366"]Nany[/COLOR] [COLOR="#ff3366"]Adam L[/COLOR] [COLOR="#000080"]Heather[/COLOR] [COLOR="#000080"]Derrick[/COLOR] [COLOR="#B22222"]Belou[/COLOR] [COLOR="#B22222"]Nehemiah[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0066ff"]Cooke[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0066ff"]Alton [/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;392709]My Dan comment might have been rude but its how I feel and BMP probably feels the same way. Ashley L. and Mike drama is not interesting, like no one even watched DC! Baya and Jordan happening is great for them I guess. And Emily on a individual is not fair. I hate these incredibly strong women doing individual challenges because it obvious they will win! Johnny and Darrell don't like each other because of there challenge wins so them doing a challenge would be fun to see because there kinda like Rivals![/QUOTE] Ashley was the only interesting thing about DC, plus she still has major beef with Ty, Mike, Erika, and Josh. I also don't think she is forgotten because a lot of people have been wanting to see her on a challenge since her season.

[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;392748]See I think differently now. I BY NO MEANS WANT THE CHALLENGE TO END! I've been watching since The Gauntlet, I'm obsessed! I still think a New School cast wouldn't be bad. For some reason vets just don't intrigue anymore and the transition has to be made soon. You guys don't agree but others do. The show is changing obviously and change can be good! CT is probably done, Wes is on the fence, Johnny will never leave but he needs a break, Mark is only good with Johnny, I like Brad but will he really return, same with Derrick. As for the girls, Ruthie I like, Robin is whatever, Aneesa needs a break, Diem and Paula retired and I believe, Sarah needs a break, and Rachel I don't know if she will return. The show is changing is basically what I'm trying to say and the show won't go anywhere if the fans don't embrace it and just put cancellation out there![/QUOTE] Older fans won't embrace it--many of us don't watch The Real World--there's no way in **** I'd watch a second of "Explosion" or whatever nonsense they're calling it. There's a ton of vets--some would love to come back but aren't invited--see Ruthie. The show is losing a portion of their fan base--they needed to comprehend that people like CT would someday leave and keep bringing in past veterans periodically. And Sarah took a season off--she can do the next 8 if it lasts that long--she's exactly what the show needs.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;392764]Older fans won't embrace it--many of us don't watch The Real World--there's no way in **** I'd watch a second of "Explosion" or whatever nonsense they're calling it. There's a ton of vets--some would love to come back but aren't invited--see Ruthie. The show is losing a portion of their fan base--they needed to comprehend that people like CT would someday leave and keep bringing in past veterans periodically. And Sarah took a season off--she can do the next 8 if it lasts that long--she's exactly what the show needs.[/QUOTE] What do you think of my redemption cast

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;392765]What do you think of my redemption cast[/QUOTE] You need more "newer people" I like the cast but you need balance And please leave Alton out...bringing back Alton & Trishelle was good and a prime example of the things they can experiment with Both provided interesting moments but now can go away for a while--probably for good

Funny thing is I added Alton last moment as a replacement for Tyrie

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;392758]The challenge Redemption Location- Tallinn Estonia 13 men and 13 women head to Tallinn with one thing in common, they return for redemption after they had either a bad performance, a bad partner, Screwed up in a final, quit or even " punched" somebody. Format individual, the winners of mission gets $500 and decide who faces the loser of the mission in the showdown. 3 girls and 3 guys make the final. [COLOR="#FF0000"]Coral[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FF0000"]Zach[/COLOR] [COLOR="#00FF00"]Sarah[/COLOR] [COLOR="#00FF00"]Darrell[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000FF"]Cara Maria[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000FF"]Dustin[/COLOR] [B]Mallory[/B] [B]Abram[/B] [COLOR="#FFFF00"]Brianna [/COLOR] [COLOR="#FFFF00"]Brandon[/COLOR] [COLOR="#800080"]Ruthie[/COLOR] [COLOR="#800080"]Jordan [/COLOR] [COLOR="#00FFFF"]KellyAnne[/COLOR] [COLOR="#00FFFF"]CJ[/COLOR] [COLOR="#008000"]Aneesa[/COLOR] [COLOR="#008000"]Noor[/COLOR] [COLOR="#A9A9A9"]Jonna[/COLOR] [COLOR="#A9A9A9"]Trey[/COLOR] [COLOR="#ff3366"]Nany[/COLOR] [COLOR="#ff3366"]Adam L[/COLOR] [COLOR="#000080"]Heather[/COLOR] [COLOR="#000080"]Derrick[/COLOR] [COLOR="#B22222"]Belou[/COLOR] [COLOR="#B22222"]Leroy [/COLOR] [COLOR="#0066ff"]Cooke[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0066ff"]Chet [/COLOR][/QUOTE] More balanced now, a good mix of old school fan favorites and new school fan favorites.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;392764]Older fans won't embrace it--many of us don't watch The Real World--there's no way in **** I'd watch a second of "Explosion" or whatever nonsense they're calling it. There's a ton of vets--some would love to come back but aren't invited--see Ruthie. The show is losing a portion of their fan base--they needed to comprehend that people like CT would someday leave and keep bringing in past veterans periodically. And Sarah took a season off--she can do the next 8 if it lasts that long--she's exactly what the show needs.[/QUOTE] You may not watch Ex-Plosion but a lot of people are! Honestly, BMP cares about the older fans but they also want to attract newer fans! All I'm saying is the show is changing and the way your talking you probably won't enjoy this next challenge.

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;392768]More balanced now, a good mix of old school fan favorites and new school fan favorites.[/QUOTE] Can you explain what the "Redemption" would be for each of the cast members? I'm a little confused on why some of them need redemption.

[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;392770]You may not watch Ex-Plosion but a lot of people are! Honestly, BMP cares about the older fans but they also want to attract newer fans! All I'm saying is the show is changing and the way your talking you probably won't enjoy this next challenge.[/QUOTE] And they need to add fans without alienating the old ones I strongly dislike the cast for the next season but most of the people I care about hung around for a while so it should be tolerable. This challenge may be my last if they don't cast better

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;392668][B]I think the pit would get repetitive if they had to do that every time[/B]. The ruins was not awesome the [B]only good thing is the cast minus jek and the eliminations, most people didn't like the ruins BC it was boring to see such mismatched teams.[/B] Also you're reaching if you say the duel was great BC of jek considering Johnny was out first and Kenny was out third. Never mind that was great lol. But they are terrible people who just make life miserable for everyone they don't like especially the girls[/QUOTE] I agree it could get pretty repetitive, but they could come up with different rules as it gets further. And the entire Ruins cast was awesome including Johnny, Kenny, and Evan. Because think about it, what made the Ruins so awesome was the drama in the game and if Johnny, Kenny, and Evan weren't there, odds are Wes's return would not have been as memorable and on top of that Wes probably would not have even returned. Because he said in his interview on the Ruins that the reason he came back was because he saw the opportunity to be on a challenge with Johanna, Kenny, Cohutta, and KellyAnne all together. Without JKE The Ruins would have sucked in terms of drama. I didn't even watch that challenge for the challenges because I knew the Champions were going to run the entire time, I watched it for JKE vs. Wes.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;392685]Actually I think the opposite is true..The best challenges were the ones that those Idiots were not on it to ruin everything..Take Seasons 2 for example one of the best challenges in years and it was because we got to see a new crop of castmembers compete. JEK wasn't needed at all(I know it got bad ratings but still that doesn't mean it was a bad season. good shows get bad ratings all the time doesn't make them awful). The only exception is the Duel 1..That was a good challenge. All three of them were on there and didn't ruin it. The rest of the challenges you listed were either boring(Fresh Meat 2, Battle of the Exes 2) Mid-tier(Rivals 1 and 2, Gauntlet 3) or just plain Awful(The Ruins) and some variation of JEK were on all if them. Even if it was just 1. Oh and The Duel 2 sucked ***. One of the most Boring challenges ever.[/QUOTE] I think you and me think completely different, which is fine. I The Ruins for many reasons, I thought the cast was flawless, a lot of people were there that we hadn't seen in a while, and it was the last challenge with old school vets. I will admit that after Wes went home it got a little boring, but I would rather watch a challenge where JKE run everything (The Ruins, Rivals) than a challenge where idiotic rookies act like they have been doing it for years (Seasons). I thought Seasons 2 was the worst challenge in history. I would rather watch a monkey ********** that watch that challenge again. I enjoyed The Duel 2. It was cool seeing the big dogs duke it out at the end. People don't like JKE because they know how to run the challenges. They have figured out how to play these games and find success it them. I will not deny that they can get through them without having to work for it like Kenny and Evan on The Ruins, Kenny on The Island, but Johnny has worked for every challenge win he has won, and Evan worked like **** to win The Duel 2. They do make people's lives **** on these challenges, but you need some amount of mental toughness to get through these games and JKE test people with that a lot of people like Katie, Cara Maria, Paula, etc. do not have that so they break and it makes it look like JKE are malicious but I don't think they are like that in real life. Maybe they are, I don't know them personally.

[QUOTE=Youssarian;392771]Can you explain what the "Redemption" would be for each of the cast members? I'm a little confused on why some of them need redemption.[/QUOTE] Same!

[QUOTE=Youssarian;392771]Can you explain what the "Redemption" would be for each of the cast members? I'm a little confused on why some of them need redemption.[/QUOTE] Coral- because she quit and pulled out BC injury Zach- got dq Sarah- Trashelle & vinny quit Darrell- he punched Brad and got dqed Cara Maria-always seems to lose with great partners Dustin-had a knee injury on exs Mallory- wanted to prove she was strong/ I want to see her again Abram- gassed our on. Cutthroat final Brianna- had to face Susie in a elimination early on, didn't see much of her Brandon- got dq for drinking a beer, plus lost early on battle of the seasons Ruthie- lost to Kimberly in a duel where she was heavily favored Jordan-Got last in the rivals 2 final,didn't get to complete it KellyAnne-was the reason Sarah lost the ruins CJ-lost the arena because jasmine couldn't beat Sam. Aneesa- known for being bad at finals Noor- came in last in freshmeat 2 final Jonna- didn't perform as well as she did the other 2 times Trey- Zach got him sent home Nany- Alton wasn't preforming his best, got her sent home Adam L-lost first on gauntlet 2 Heather-Dustin got her sent home Derrick- lost right before the cutthroat final Belou- out early on battle of the seasons Leroy- had pretty bad partners Cooke-cara held her back Chet- injured on cutthroat, and Devyn lost the final for him

My ideal BOTExes 2 cast would be: [B]Starting teams:[/B] Wes and KellyAnne Danny and Melinda Trey and Laura Zach and Ashley Leroy and Theresa Jordan and Jonna Marlon and Nany Brian and Jenny Jay and Jenna Thomas and Hailey [B]Surprise additions to show up at the first challenge:[/B] Dustin and Heather Ty and Emily Johnny and Camila

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;392779]Coral- because she quit and pulled out BC injury Zach- got dq Sarah- Trashelle & vinny quit Darrell- he punched Brad and got dqed Cara Maria-always seems to lose with great partners Dustin-had a knee injury on exs Mallory- wanted to prove she was strong/ I want to see her again Abram- gassed our on. Cutthroat final Brianna- had to face Susie in a elimination early on, didn't see much of her Brandon- got dq for drinking a beer, plus lost early on battle of the seasons Ruthie- lost to Kimberly in a duel where she was heavily favored Jordan-Got last in the rivals 2 final,didn't get to complete it KellyAnne-was the reason Sarah lost the ruins CJ-lost the arena because jasmine couldn't beat Sam. Aneesa- known for being bad at finals Noor- came in last in freshmeat 2 final Jonna- didn't perform as well as she did the other 2 times Trey- Zach got him sent home Nany- Alton wasn't preforming his best, got her sent home Adam L-lost first on gauntlet 2 Heather-Dustin got her sent home Derrick- lost right before the cutthroat final Belou- out early on battle of the seasons Leroy- had pretty bad partners Cooke-cara held her back Chet- injured on cutthroat, and Devyn lost the final for him[/QUOTE] Honestly I can kind of see your intentions, but I feel like the overall concept is skewed. It's so...subjective. I can see why people like Dustin or Sarah need "Redemption" but a lot of them are just...stretches to me. Cara Maria always seems to lose with great partners? Isn't that just bad luck, or maybe proving she isn't a great competitor? Mallory? I just don't get it. Ruthie lost fair and square. Why does KellyAnne need redemption because SHE was the reason she and Sarah lost? Why does Noor get redemption for simply not winning FM2? Why does Belou need redemption? Who determines that Leroy's partners were "bad"? Why does Jonna need redemption because SHE didn't "perform as well" (subjective) on her last two challenges? (btw, I would say she needs redemption due to her unfair match vs. Laurel/CM in Rivals). It's so arbitrary.

[QUOTE=Youssarian;392791]Honestly I can kind of see your intentions, but I feel like the overall concept is skewed. It's so...subjective. I can see why people like Dustin or Sarah need "Redemption" but a lot of them are just...stretches to me. Cara Maria always seems to lose with great partners? Isn't that just bad luck, or maybe proving she isn't a great competitor? Mallory? I just don't get it. Ruthie lost fair and square. Why does KellyAnne need redemption because SHE was the reason she and Sarah lost? Why does Noor get redemption for simply not winning FM2? Why does Belou need redemption? Who determines that Leroy's partners were "bad"? Why does Jonna need redemption because SHE didn't "perform as well" (subjective) on her last two challenges? (btw, I would say she needs redemption due to her unfair match vs. Laurel/CM in Rivals). It's so arbitrary.[/QUOTE] Tbh I just added cara maria, Jonna, and Leroy to have more new school cast originally they were Steven, Tina, and Beth. Mallory and Noor want to see again,KellyAnne needs to come back and show everyone she's a great competitor. Also infernos are subjective to on who is a good guy or a bad ***.

The Challenge: Fresh Meat 3 Aneesa Ferriera and Chris Scali Dustin Zito and Jacy Rodriguez Wes Bergmann and Jessica Perez Adam Royer and Ashleigh Feaster Jemmye Carroll and Dillan Ostrom Naomi Defensor and Chris Tolleson Isaac Stout and Brittany Baldassari Knight Ryan and Lauren Ondersma Kelly-Anne Judd and Wes Buckles Frank Sweeney and Ashley Ceaser Heather Cooke and Brian Williams Cohutta Grindstaff and Amber Lee Camila Nakagawa and John Jacobs Jonna Mannion and Ryan Malatay Johnny ********* and Paige Brendal Cara-Maria Sorbello and Jamil Khan If You Take The Exes , Are You The One? and Spring Break Challengers , you could easily get a FM cast just to insure atleast 3 more seasons.

No please.

[QUOTE=Npresh24;392821]The Challenge: Fresh Meat 3 Aneesa Ferriera and Chris Scali Dustin Zito and Jacy Rodriguez Wes Bergmann and Jessica Perez Adam Royer and Ashleigh Feaster Jemmye Carroll and Dillan Ostrom Naomi Defensor and Chris Tolleson Isaac Stout and Brittany Baldassari Knight Ryan and Lauren Ondersma Kelly-Anne Judd and Wes Buckles Frank Sweeney and Ashley Ceaser Heather Cooke and Brian Williams Cohutta Grindstaff and Amber Lee Camila Nakagawa and John Jacobs Jonna Mannion and Ryan Malatay Johnny ********* and Paige Brendal Cara-Maria Sorbello and Jamil Khan If You Take The Exes , Are You The One? and Spring Break Challengers , you could easily get a FM cast just to insure atleast 3 more seasons.[/QUOTE] I like Are You The One people joining the cast but only 4 of them (Dre, Adam, Simone, and Brittany). No more spring break people though, Camila is truly enough!

[QUOTE=Npresh24;392821]The Challenge: Fresh Meat 3 Aneesa Ferriera and Chris Scali Dustin Zito and Jacy Rodriguez Wes Bergmann and Jessica Perez Adam Royer and Ashleigh Feaster Jemmye Carroll and Dillan Ostrom Naomi Defensor and Chris Tolleson Isaac Stout and Brittany Baldassari Knight Ryan and Lauren Ondersma Kelly-Anne Judd and Wes Buckles Frank Sweeney and Ashley Ceaser Heather Cooke and Brian Williams Cohutta Grindstaff and Amber Lee Camila Nakagawa and John Jacobs Jonna Mannion and Ryan Malatay Johnny ********* and Paige Brendal Cara-Maria Sorbello and Jamil Khan If You Take The Exes , Are You The One? and Spring Break Challengers , you could easily get a FM cast just to insure atleast 3 more seasons.[/QUOTE] This would end the series not get more seasons...

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;392825]This would end the series not get more seasons...[/QUOTE] I'm really sick of you saying that tbh

[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;392826]I'm really sick of you saying that tbh[/QUOTE] He's right though..

[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;392826]I'm really sick of you saying that tbh[/QUOTE] I'm being honest you need to understand that I don't want the show to end and to stop it from ending we cant ignore the older viewers who have been loyal for fair weather fans who only just got into it , people hated the freshmeats already and with that cast there would be less viewers then St Thomas. You need to understand that we need veterans to keep the show alive.