Since we haven't seen molds in a while, I think it's time for Guin Guin(?) to make an appearance. I heard Guin Guin did real good this challenge. Welcome home, we've missed you! :applause:
since Theresa put her business out there like that on twitter I doubt they will make up because Theresa probably heard it from Johnny since they're friends. I think laurel would be pissed that Kenny is telling everyone
[QUOTE=JEKFAN;387060]I think there will be 2 main alliances and my guess is it is CT, Laurel, Caramaria, Zach and Johnny R. VS Johnny B,Theresa,Nany,Leroy and maybe Cohutta.
Also I think Laurel's tweet was about Kenny. Kenny blocked Laurel on twitter and they now hate each other. They used to hook up and I think Laurel had feelings for him and he screwed her over. That is what it seemed like from tweets and what I've heard.
Some old tweets:
Laurel Stucky @laurelstucky 19 Dec
No. I don't want to know the kid. RT @knightofthe201: @laurelstucky Are you and Kenny still close?
Laurel Stucky @laurelstucky 19 Dec
I asked him to please stop contacting me RT @TheDizinater: @laurelstucky do you still talk to Kenny?[/QUOTE]
Yeah that was December. Then this happened in July
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Then they fought again at the end of August. It's weird. The reason I don't think that stuff was directed at him is because they were friends again still at that point.
I think they both were into each other but Kenny had a girlfriend and didn't want to break up with her for Laurel. Then **** hit the fan and they had a fight and I'm pretty sure Kenny and his girlfriend broke up because of it.
[QUOTE=JL81790;387083]Yeah that was December. Then this happened in July
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Then they fought again at the end of August. It's weird. The reason I don't think that stuff was directed at him is because they were friends again still at that point.
I think they both were into each other but Kenny had a girlfriend and didn't want to break up with her for Laurel. Then **** hit the fan and they had a fight and I'm pretty sure Kenny and his girlfriend broke up because of it.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, even in her fight with Theresa, she was still agreeing with people saying "who wouldn't send nude photos to Kenny, he's gorgeous", etc. I think they fell out very recently, and I think it was Kenny who cut off contact this time.
[QUOTE=JL81790;387083]Yeah that was December. Then this happened in July
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Then they fought again at the end of August. It's weird. The reason I don't think that stuff was directed at him is because they were friends again still at that point.
I think they both were into each other but Kenny had a girlfriend and didn't want to break up with her for Laurel. Then **** hit the fan and they had a fight and I'm pretty sure Kenny and his girlfriend broke up because of it.[/QUOTE]
Jeez Laurel... he probably cut her off because she's acting like a little challenge groupie. This is jek empire level of *** kissing.
[QUOTE=Lola88;387088]She must have really liked him because we all know she is much better than he is...at everything.[/QUOTE]
Kenny is better at politics, strategy and having a great social game. ;)
[QUOTE=TheCloser;387092]Kenny is better at politics, strategy and having a great social game. ;)[/QUOTE]
If politics, strategy and a great social game = dbag*, misogynistic, rapist that gets by, by being friends with people who did play good strategic games (Johnny, Evan), Then yeah, I agree.
I honestly can't think of good strategic moves that he's actually made. He's come across as kind of an idiot IMO.
I forgot about the Laurel/Theresa feud, hopefully that brings up some good drama. I'm normally inclined to take the girls side in a guy/girl fight but I cant stand home a wrecker, of course we dont know both sides but if Laurel was sending him inappropriate pics when he had a gf then shes pretty damn desperate for attention. And I think that gf stood by Kenny during the whole raping issue, not many girls would stay with a guy accused of that, too bad for him.
[QUOTE=Lola88;387094]If politics, strategy and a great social game = dbag*, misogynistic, rapist that gets by, by being friends with people who did play good strategic games (Johnny, Evan), Then yeah, I agree. ��
I honestly can't think of good strategic moves that he's actually made. He's come across as kind of an idiot IMO.[/QUOTE]
I thought he did well in Fresh Meat 2, without Johnny and Evan, with the whole strategic plan. Getting Darrell out soon and putting Wes and Evelyn in a elimination round together.
[QUOTE=hannamez8;387099]I thought he did well in Fresh Meat 2, without Johnny and Evan, with the whole strategic plan. Getting Darrell out soon and putting Wes and Evelyn in a elimination round together.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Kenny's good with strategy, I actually always thought Johnny B was the weak link in their trio strategy-wise. Laurel is definitely the stranger athlete of the two, though. She's never really had a good political strategy, though.
[QUOTE=Lola88;387094]If politics, strategy and a great social game = dbag*, misogynistic, rapist that gets by, by being friends with people who did play good strategic games (Johnny, Evan), Then yeah, I agree. ��
I honestly can't think of good strategic moves that he's actually made. He's come across as kind of an idiot IMO.[/QUOTE]
Watch fm2
Or watch him run a final. Laurel isn't better than him at that.
Regardless I'm not sure why his performance in the challenge should have any bearing on whether or not she was interested in him. They hung out with each other pretty regularly in NY between challenges up until whenever this fight happened...clearly they enjoyed each other's company.
[QUOTE=TheCloser;387102]Watch fm2[/QUOTE]
Kenny's strategy on FM2 was not good at all. Wes & Evelyn ran circles around him in terms of strategy. The only reason why his alliance prevailed in the end was because they kept winning the challenges due to he and Laurel having a massive physical advantage over every other team.
[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;387104]Kenny's strategy on FM2 was not good at all. Wes & Evelyn ran circles around him in terms of strategy. The only reason why his alliance prevailed in the end was because they kept winning the challenges due to he and Laurel having a massive physical advantage over every other team.[/QUOTE]
What circles? Wes recruited that entire alliance before they went on the show, and aside from pulling Landon in and convincing him to vote Kenny in they had no opportunity to make any strategic moves. Yeah they voted Sarah and Paula into exile, but that was a common sense move. What else did they do that was so brilliant? They lost Jenn and Ryan and Evelyn even said they barely kept CJ and Landon on the ship for as long as they did and that both of them were trying to float Kenny deals the whole time.
[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;387104]Kenny's strategy on FM2 was not good at all. Wes & Evelyn ran circles around him in terms of strategy. The only reason why his alliance prevailed in the end was because they kept winning the challenges due to he and Laurel having a massive physical advantage over every other team.[/QUOTE]
Exactly...I think Kenny has a great social game, but a weak political game. Kenny is a generally well liked guy on the challenges, but he very rarely makes well thought out political decisions. People allude to FM2 and when you look at what Wes/Ev did it really was not close, they were the masterminds behind Darrell getting sent home not Kenny and also sent Kenny in before they were sent in. It just so happened that Kenny won and Wes did not in their eliminations. FM2 just came down to Kenny/Laurel were just too good of a team, you either risked throwing them in and them coming back or losing to them in the finals. Then Rivals came and the only major political decision that Wes/Kenny made by themselves was sending Johnny/Tyler in and that was all Wes politicking during the last challenge.
[QUOTE=proceed;386948]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en" xml:lang="en">I have a Theory.... there are a bunch of male cowards to grace the Challenge and their names are NOT Landon, CT, Darrell, Leroy, Derrick...— Laurel Stucky (@laurelstucky) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/laurelstucky/statuses/366803201304961025">August 12, 2013</a></blockquote>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en" xml:lang="en">I'm so tired how the game has been played in the past. If I were to ever go back I will call out every Male player that degrades women.— Laurel Stucky (@laurelstucky) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/laurelstucky/statuses/366803519304511489">August 12, 2013</a></blockquote>
Notice Johnny's name is not mentioned.[/QUOTE]
I remember this. I think it's the JEK clique she was talking about. They degrade women and cheat on their girlfriends.
I'm surprised Nia and Johnny are following each other. Maybe by the challenge they were over that nonsense. Nia may be many things but she is capable of apologizing. Even her and Jordan grew to love each other, and we saw the hell she gave him. I think on their season there was more pressure to create drama in the house, and Nia came in there to do that. Maybe on the challenge she just had fun and let the drama happen naturally with some of the other personalities.
Okay I go my other theory which is that it was some drama involving Laurel. Oh Laurel, you guarantee good TV. What a woman.
[QUOTE=WesandCT;387109]Exactly...I think Kenny has a great social game, but a weak political game. Kenny is a generally well liked guy on the challenges, but he very rarely makes well thought out political decisions. People allude to FM2 and when you look at what Wes/Ev did it really was not close, they were the masterminds behind Darrell getting sent home not Kenny and also sent Kenny in before they were sent in. It just so happened that Kenny won and Wes did not in their eliminations. FM2 just came down to Kenny/Laurel were just too good of a team, you either risked throwing them in and them coming back or losing to them in the finals. Then Rivals came and the only major [B]political decision that Wes/Kenny made by themselves was sending Johnny/Tyler in and that was all Wes politicking during the last challenge.[/B][/QUOTE]
Kenny was saying the whole time to wes and evelyns alliance that they are using them and they will see. So Kenny and Laurel threw the mission to have Wes and evelyn throw in they're own alliance. That was pretty smart.
Wes wouldn't have made it that far if it were not for Kenny.
[QUOTE=JL81790;387103]Or watch him run a final. Laurel isn't better than him at that.
Regardless I'm not sure why his performance in the challenge should have any bearing on whether or not she was interested in him. They hung out with each other pretty regularly in NY between challenges up until whenever this fight happened...[B]clearly they enjoyed each other's company.[/B][/QUOTE]
As much as people do not want to admit it, Kenny is a funny and charming guy.
[QUOTE=Camille;387111]I remember this. I think it's the JEK clique she was talking about. They degrade women and cheat on their girlfriends.
I'm surprised Nia and Johnny are following each other. Maybe by the challenge they were over that nonsense. Nia may be many things but she is capable of apologizing. Even her and Jordan grew to love each other, and we saw the hell she gave him. I think on their season there was more pressure to create drama in the house, and Nia came in there to do that. Maybe on the challenge she just had fun and let the drama happen naturally with some of the other personalities.
Okay I go my other theory which is that it was some drama involving Laurel. Oh Laurel, you guarantee good TV. What a woman.[/QUOTE]
Yeah Laurel favorited two tweets about Nia after coming back(one about hairdryergate, and another about fighting with Nia on the challenge), so I think there was definitely some kind of fight/tension on the show. I can't wait.
[QUOTE=TheCloser;387113]As much as people do not want to admit it, Kenny is a funny and charming guy.[/QUOTE]
I like Kenny, legal issues aside. My favorite moment was on Rivals when he wore black to the jungle for CM and Laurel. He isn't a bad guy, it's just that some bad thing may or may not have happened involving him.
Too bad he can't come back on the show I would love to see the drama between him, laurel and Theresa. Theresa is always putting herself in drama and other people's business hopefully laurel put her in her place in this challenge
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;387115]I like Kenny, legal issues aside. My favorite moment was on Rivals when he wore black to the jungle for CM and Laurel. He isn't a bad guy, it's just that some bad thing may or may not have happened involving him.[/QUOTE]
While Dbag CT wore Blue! lmao
[QUOTE=TheCloser;387119]While Dbag CT wore Blue! lmao[/QUOTE]
Then Laurel wore his jersey (Cara wore blue as well) at the final elimination and was depressed when he lost. I love Laurel, but that was a big WTF moment for me.
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;387120]Then Laurel wore his jersey (Cara wore blue as well) at the final elimination and was depressed when he lost. I love Laurel, but that was a big WTF moment for me.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think Johnny and co are right when they say CT has no loyalty whatsoever.
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;387120]Then Laurel wore his jersey (Cara wore blue as well) at the final elimination and was depressed when he lost. I love Laurel, but that was a big WTF moment for me.[/QUOTE]
Well Laurel and Cara are a lot closer to CT than Johnny or Tyler especially what happened after the coke incident.
[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;387104][B]Kenny's strategy on FM2 was not good at all[/B]. Wes & Evelyn ran circles around him in terms of strategy. The only reason why his alliance prevailed in the end was because they kept winning the challenges due to he and Laurel having a massive physical advantage over every other team.[/QUOTE]
What? You mean winning 50% of the challenges? In my opinion winning is the best strategy you can have. And the only reason Wes and Evelyn looked better at strategy that show was because they won 0 challenges and had to strategize to keep themselves out of the elimination round.
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;387115]I like Kenny, legal issues aside. My favorite moment was on Rivals when he wore black to the jungle for CM and Laurel. He isn't a bad guy, it's just that some bad thing may or may not have happened involving him.[/QUOTE]
Did you not watch him treat every girl like **** on the ruins? Or degrade Jenn & Tina for being "fat" on the inferno 3. And the way him and Johnny treated Evelyn on the ruins was terrible. Remember you can't spell jerks without JEK.
Now back to cast members who are on this challenge, I'd be fine with Leroy winning if it means Johnny doesn't
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;387131]Did you not watch him treat every girl like **** on the ruins? Or degrade Jenn & Tina for being "fat" on the inferno 3. And the way him and Johnny treated Evelyn on the ruins was terrible. Remember you can't spell jerks without JEK.
Now back to cast members who are on this challenge, I'd be fine with Leroy winning if it means Johnny doesn't[/QUOTE]
*sigh*
I don't mind Kenny, he has a few bleak moments of actually showing me that he can be a nice person...only a few. If it wasn't for his ego and everything else surrounding him, I'd like him a bit more (considering the fact that I wanted him and Tina to win Fresh Meat).
But fine, we'll move on even though we don't have any real clues anymore to this challenge leading to who competed, as well as who won and who placed besides the spoilers we were given a good while back.
This is what people should look for if they're interested in the Top 5 ([U][/U][B]if spoilers posted on here are accurate![/B]):
1.) Leroy
2.) CT
3.) Zach
4.) Bananas/Johnny R.
5.) Bananas/Johnny R.
1.) Laurel
2.)
3.) Devyn
4.)
5.)
Top spots are still being worked out between Jonna, Nany, Cara Maria, and Theresa.
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