The Challenge: Favorite/Fantasy Casts

[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;383961]I wouldn't count Laurel and Sarah out[/QUOTE] Agreed--Laurel & Sarah would be the team to beat

Puzzles and anything to do purely with size and weight would be L&S. Everything else(agility, endurance, balance, lb/lb strength) would be R&K.

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;383948]You don't think Laurel/Sarah would make the final?[/QUOTE] They definitely would be one of the frontrunners but I think they'd get knocked out at the last minute.

[QUOTE=TeamLandon;383967]They definitely would be one of the frontrunners but I think they'd get knocked out at the last minute.[/QUOTE] I don't see how you think Jenn & Theresa would survive and not Laurel & Sarah

[QUOTE=v123;383963]Puzzles and anything to do purely with size and weight would be L&S. Everything else(agility, endurance, [B]balance[/B], lb/lb strength) would be R&K.[/QUOTE] Did you not watch KellyAnne on the balance beam during The Ruins? KellyAnne hasn't proven as much as the other 3 Hopefully we see her again to judge

[QUOTE=kvm1977;383970]Did you not watch KellyAnne on the balance beam during The Ruins? KellyAnne hasn't proven as much as the other 3 Hopefully we see her again to judge[/QUOTE] She had an injury that wasn't shown. Outside of the show she's actually really conditioned, balance and coordination related things included. Sarah has been on over 3x the challenges so I do agree that she has shown more based on appearances alone. Do keep in mind though that on the challenge they did appear on together, Sarah was considered to be a step below, competitive wise.

I'm gonna take Challenge 17's idea and create my own cast... pairing people who battled it out in eliminations. [COLOR="#B22222"]Laurel and Camilla[/COLOR] [COLOR="#B22222"]Darrell and Cohutta[/COLOR] [COLOR="#008000"]Jonna and Sarah Johnny and Dunbar[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000FF"]Emily and Cara Maria Ty and Abram[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FFFF00"]Cooke and Nany Dustin and Trey[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FF0000"]KellyAnne and Rachel Derrick and Brad[/COLOR] [COLOR="#00FFFF"]Paula and Aneesa Tyler and CT[/COLOR] [COLOR="#00FF00"]Jenn and Theresa Robb and Alton[/COLOR] [COLOR="#808080"]Kim and Susie Landon and CJ[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=v123;383976]She had an injury that wasn't shown. Outside of the show she's actually really conditioned, balance and coordination related things included. Sarah has been on over 3x the challenges so I do agree that she has shown more based on appearances alone. Do keep in mind though that on the challenge they did appear on together, Sarah was considered to be a step below, competitive wise.[/QUOTE] Sarah's 10x better now than she was then...we have no idea on KellyAnne I love Rachel to death but there's no way they're the favorite

Kelly Anne is in much better shape then she was during the ruins

She probably has improved, but considering that Kelly Anne hasn't been on another challenge, its only fair to compare them when they were both on the same challenge since that is all we have to go by. Rachel is clearly past her prime and probably over the challenges but I do hold her best in high regards and I don't feel that many girls can consistently beat her when she's at her best. Laurel could be one of them though.

[QUOTE=v123;383994]She probably has improved, but considering that Kelly Anne hasn't been on another challenge, its only fair to compare them when they were both on the same challenge since that is all we have to go by. Rachel is clearly past her prime and probably over the challenges but I do hold her best in high regards and I don't feel that many girls can consistently beat her when she's at her best. Laurel could be one of them though.[/QUOTE] But you can't claim Sarah is the person she was 6 challenges ago--we know better

[QUOTE=TeamLandon;383979]I'm gonna take Challenge 17's idea and create my own cast... pairing people who battled it out in eliminations. [COLOR=#B22222][B]Laurel and Camila[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#B22222]Darrell and Cohutta[/COLOR] [COLOR=#008000]Jonna and Sarah Johnny and Dunbar[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000FF][B]Emily and Cara Maria[/B] Ty and Abram[/COLOR] [COLOR=#FFFF00]Cooke and Nany Dustin and Trey[/COLOR] [COLOR=#FF0000]KellyAnne and Rachel Derrick and Brad[/COLOR] [COLOR=#00FFFF]Paula and Aneesa [B]Tyler and CT[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#00FF00]Jenn and Theresa Robb and Alton[/COLOR] [COLOR=#808080]Kim and Susie [B]Landon and CJ[/B][/COLOR][/QUOTE] Those 4 teams are not even fair! Everyone else is screwed! Edit: Hard to tell with the light blue, but I bolded Tyler/CT

[QUOTE=kvm1977;383996]But you can't claim Sarah is the person she was 6 challenges ago--we know better[/QUOTE] She's not that much better. On FM2 and Rivals 2, we didn't see much. On Cutthroat and Rivals, I wouldn't consider her one of the better girls of those season. She was just kind of there. BOTSeasons was her best showing and the competition was stale. She's always had endurance and was known as a puzzle person. What else has she so greatly improved at?

[QUOTE=TeamLandon;384000]She's not that much better. On FM2 and Rivals 2, we didn't see much. On Cutthroat and Rivals, I wouldn't consider her one of the better girls of those season. She was just kind of there. BOTSeasons was her best showing and the competition was stale. She's always had endurance and was known as a puzzle person. What else has she so greatly improved at?[/QUOTE] Cutthroat she was the best female behind Laurel. On FM2, Rivals, Exes, and Rivals 2 she was saddled with partners who weren't up to par and 2/3 ended up quitting on her. Seasons, she carried her team and was the best female. When she's not saddled with someone, she always shows she's a top competitor.

[QUOTE=TeamLandon;383979]I'm gonna take Challenge 17's idea and create my own cast... pairing people who battled it out in eliminations. [COLOR="#B22222"]Laurel and Camilla[/COLOR] [COLOR="#B22222"]Darrell and Cohutta[/COLOR] [COLOR="#008000"]Jonna and Sarah Johnny and Dunbar[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000FF"]Emily and Cara Maria Ty and Abram[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FFFF00"]Cooke and Nany Dustin and Trey[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FF0000"]KellyAnne and Rachel Derrick and Brad[/COLOR] [COLOR="#00FFFF"]Paula and Aneesa Tyler and CT[/COLOR] [COLOR="#00FF00"]Jenn and Theresa Robb and Alton[/COLOR] [COLOR="#808080"]Kim and Susie Landon and CJ[/COLOR][/QUOTE] Laurel and Camila would win here. The men's side is too hard to predict with CT/Tyler, Landon/CJ, and Derrick/Brad.

[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;383999]Those 4 teams are not even fair! Everyone else is screwed! Edit: Hard to tell with the light blue, but I bolded Tyler/CT[/QUOTE] Eh... depends on the missions. If they're like Rivals/Exes then everyone has a chance. You also have to take politics into account. Some teams could easily be voted in against each other because the lack of political pull. Tyler/CT and Landon/CJ could fall into that category. And I think some people would surprise. There are no "weak" teams though, so every match up would be great and a loss of a "main character".

What is most interesting to me is Cara Maria's opinion on Sarah as a competitor. She has never really called Sarah a great competitor despite being on so many challenges with her. On Cutthroat she said she would least like to face the following in a Gulag: Laurel, Jenn, Paula, Tori, Emily, and Theresa. No mention of Sarah. On Seasons, Cara said the best all around female competitor was Camila hands down. I don't necessarily agree but it is kind of interesting.

[QUOTE=v123;384011]What is most interesting to me is Cara Maria's opinion on Sarah as a competitor. She has never really called Sarah a great competitor despite being on so many challenges with her. On Cutthroat she said she would least like to face the following in a Gulag: Laurel, Jenn, Paula, Tori, Emily, and Theresa. No mention of Sarah. On Seasons, Cara said the best all around female competitor was Camila hands down. I don't necessarily agree but it is kind of interesting.[/QUOTE] Ths gulags were mostly physical and Sarah's not really a threat in anything physical. Interesting about Seasons though. I'd say it's close between those two.

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;384015]Ths gulags were mostly physical and Sarah's not really a threat in anything physical. Interesting about Seasons though. I'd say it's close between those two.[/QUOTE] I disagree I think Sarah would crush a lot of girls including cara in a physical elimination

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;384016]I disagree I think Sarah would crush a lot of girls including cara in a physical elimination[/QUOTE] But what proof/evidence do we have of this? She hasn't shown to be good at anything physical.

She won force field

The same idea but if it was instead of the island And this is pure fantasy [COLOR="#FF0000"]Tina & Robin[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FF0000"]Wes & Derrick[/COLOR] [COLOR="#00FF00"]Tonya & Julie[/COLOR] [COLOR="#00FF00"]Frank & MJ[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000FF"]Jill & Janelle[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000FF"]Brad & CT[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FFFF00"]Susie & Jenn[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FFFF00"]Kenny & Eric[/COLOR] this is the only time I'd ever include Kenny. [COLOR="#800080"]Kina & Cara[/COLOR] [COLOR="#800080"]Abram & Timmy[/COLOR] [COLOR="#00FFFF"]Svetlana & Aneesa[/COLOR] [COLOR="#00FFFF"]Alton & Jeremy[/COLOR] [COLOR="#008000"]Veronica & Jodi[/COLOR] [COLOR="#008000"]Nehemiah & Alex[/COLOR] [COLOR="#000080"]Coral & Beth[/COLOR] [COLOR="#000080"]Davis & Danny[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;384035]She won force field[/QUOTE] She and Devyn had lackluster competition. It'd be embarrassing if she didn't.

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;384038]She and Devyn had lackluster competition. It'd be embarrassing if she didn't.[/QUOTE] If Marie had Laura, I think Sarah and Devyn would have had some competition.

Ashley K and Sam were competition because Ashley is strong and Sam was the biggest girl there

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;384056]Ashley K and Sam were competition because Ashley is strong and Sam was the biggest girl there[/QUOTE] Ashley said herself she can't really get mean/physical.

The ruins 2 Comment on who would will. [COLOR="#FF0000"]Champions[/COLOR] Zach Wes Nehemiah Tyler Dunbar Derick Abram Katie Paula Camilla Janelle Ashley K Carly Sam [COLOR="#0000FF"]Challengers[/COLOR] Leroy CJ Cohutta Jordan Scott Pete Noor Laurel Sarah Cooke Kelly Anne Theresa Baya Avery

Challengers by a mile.

By a mile is a little extreme

Battle of The Seasons 2 Location Barcelona Spain Comment on who would win and who would win the final, all arenas are the same but X battle instead of hall brawl. [COLOR="#FF0000"]Portland[/COLOR] Jordan Johnny R Avery Nia [COLOR="#00FF00"]Key West[/COLOR] Tyler Johnny Paula Janelle [COLOR="#0000FF"]Sydney[/COLOR] Cohutta Issac Kelly Anne Trisha [COLOR="#FFFF00"]New Orleans 2[/COLOR] Ryan Eric McKenzie Ashlee [COLOR="#800080"]Brooklyn[/COLOR] Scott Ryan Sarah Baya [COLOR="#008000"]DC[/COLOR] TY Mike Emily Ashley [COLOR="#00FFFF"]Las Vegas 2[/COLOR] Dustin Leroy Nany Cooke [COLOR="#000080"]Hollywood[/COLOR] David Greg Kimberly Briana