The Challenge: Free Agents - Speculation (Spoilers)

Leroy made it to the hardest final and wanted to quit early on into it. Michael's legitimately the only reason Leroy kept going and essentially why they had to quit at the mountain because he expended so much to keep going to make up for what Leroy couldn't do.

[QUOTE=Squad;382743]Overall Leroy is a better competitor then Cohutta.[/QUOTE] We just haven't seen enough of Cohutta to judge that, imo. For all we know Cohutta could be another Sarah Rice, and disappoint on this show. I have Leroy ranked at the top of the second tier, and he's been to a final, and we know he is in good shape, whereas we haven't seen Cohutta for almost 5 years, things change in that time.

[QUOTE=JEKFAN;382744]I've said this before, Zach is overrated. CT & Leroy could beat him in a final.[/QUOTE] Zach almost got beat by CJ(who's like half his size) in an elimination. Overall he's not as good as people think he is, they're just intimidated by his size.

Cohutta is still around because he is either 1)Viewed as being really weak and no threat in the final. Or 2) because he's gone into an elimination(s) and proved himself.

[QUOTE=WesDuel;382757]Cohutta is still around because he is either 1)Viewed as being really weak and no threat in the final. Or 2) because he's gone into an elimination(s) and proved himself.[/QUOTE] Or 3) Like Mark Long, Leroy, and some others...people just like him.

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;382748]Because that isn't what Paula and Mandi did?[/QUOTE] What hid? Uhm Paula went into elimination in i3 and was considered the best female. Gauntlet 3? Went into elimination. The island, she went into a a competition and got screwed over. Duel 2, went into an elimination and Johnny wasn't on. Fresh meat 2? No Johnny and Ev gave paula props for how well she did in he exile. Cutthroat paula was the best girl on her team and hated Johnny. Exes 2 went into elimination and won 1. Rivals 2? You can't argue that Paula and emily held their own as the best girl team. Mandi? When did she hide behind anybody? Rivals 1? She and Jenn never came in last. But she's never been up Johnny or leRoys butt.

[QUOTE=proceed;382756]Zach almost got beat by CJ(who's like half his size) in an elimination. Overall he's not as good as people think he is, they're just intimidated by his size.[/QUOTE] I agree and I think he thinks he is way better than he is just because he won his first time being on a challenge. The win was mostly due to Frank/Ashley, they carried the team.

[QUOTE=proceed;382756]Zach almost got beat by CJ(who's like half his size) in an elimination. Overall he's not as good as people think he is, they're just intimidated by his size.[/QUOTE] Screw Zach even though i like him now. To hell with CJ boring ***.

This thread makes my head want to explode. I love The Challenge but there is a lot of misinformation in this thread that is based on guesses. I know this is a speculation thread but people are presupposing certain cast members are eliminated based on Johnny Bananas liking a Tweet or an Instagram post? A lot of times these people have accessed accounts while out at bars, in a hotel lobby on confessional day, etc. while on location shooting. I know for a fact through a friend someone who has long since been "eliminated" is still in the game. Unless a castmate has been spotted through photographic evidence of not being in Uruguay, take their "elimination" with a huge grain of salt.

[QUOTE=Desertpuma;382682]But the thing with Kenny and Wes was not a mere booty call. She made a beeline to be involved with one of them and immediately bounced to the other. Her personal storyline in Challenge history is loud, tragic and her own doing. From a similar and contrary note, Katie is also loud but actually funny, fiery, and reacting to others going after her. She never initiated any of the fights or drama she was involved in. It was mostly Veronica.[/QUOTE] Didn't call it a booty call. called it the "booty buyin" when usually girl or guy links themself up with someone that has ins with the alliances for safety. The rest of your post.. understandable.

[QUOTE=datraceman;382763]This thread makes my head want to explode. I love The Challenge but there is a lot of misinformation in this thread that is based on guesses. I know this is a speculation thread but people are presupposing certain cast members are eliminated based on Johnny Bananas liking a Tweet or an Instagram post? A lot of times these people have accessed accounts while out at bars, in a hotel lobby on confessional day, etc. while on location shooting. I know for a fact through a friend someone who has long since been "eliminated" is still in the game. Unless a castmate has been spotted through photographic evidence of not being in Uruguay, take their "elimination" with a huge grain of salt.[/QUOTE] Mmmmm then who is it? Whose this person we think is "eliminated" still in the game?

[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;382768]Mmmmm then who is it? Whose this person we think is "eliminated" still in the game?[/QUOTE] I'm guessing Nia. Didn't someone say here that she wasn't eliminated when we had speculated she was based on Twitter and IG activity?

Wait whats this about johnny bananas being out?! This challenge just got interesting. Please be true! Thats gotta suck for johnny though, now he has to wait like another yr to pay his bills

[QUOTE=Lola88;382760]What hid? Uhm Paula went into elimination in i3 and was considered the best female. Gauntlet 3? Went into elimination. The island, she went into a a competition and got screwed over. Duel 2, went into an elimination and Johnny wasn't on. Fresh meat 2? No Johnny and Ev gave paula props for how well she did in he exile. Cutthroat paula was the best girl on her team and hated Johnny. Exes 2 went into elimination and won 1. Rivals 2? You can't argue that Paula and emily held their own as the best girl team. Mandi? When did she hide behind anybody? Rivals 1? She and Jenn never came in last. But she's never been up Johnny or leRoys butt.[/QUOTE] You said hide behind Johnny and Leroy, as if Paula hasn't done that on Gauntlet 3, The Island, Duel 2, Cutthroat, and Rivals/Exes? I wansn't even taking eliminations into account and even so Theresa's gotten consistently screwed in her elimination rounds. Evelyn was the best on I3. A competition that was thrown to her. ****-- Camila was BY FAR the best female on the Red Team. Again, I never said she never went into elimination rounds or her performances, you jumped to that conclusion. She and Jenn did mediocre that challenge and did hide behind the mob. I still don't get why people would even assume Theresa would be safe from eliminations seeing as how she has bad blood with Laurel, Camila, and Leroy. Her social/political game has always been poor, too. Just another reason to give Theresa ****, I guess.

[QUOTE=datraceman;382763]This thread makes my head want to explode. I love The Challenge but there is a lot of misinformation in this thread that is based on guesses. I know this is a speculation thread but people are presupposing certain cast members are eliminated based on Johnny Bananas liking a Tweet or an Instagram post? A lot of times these people have accessed accounts while out at bars, in a hotel lobby on confessional day, etc. while on location shooting. I know for a fact through a friend someone who has long since been "eliminated" is still in the game. Unless a castmate has been spotted through photographic evidence of not being in Uruguay, take their "elimination" with a huge grain of salt.[/QUOTE] I agree, I don't think Johnny is out but everyone is acting like it is a forsure thing and who is the person who is still there?

[QUOTE=Quest;382764]Didn't call it a booty call. called it the "booty buyin" when usually girl or guy links themself up with someone that has ins with the alliances for safety. The rest of your post.. understandable.[/QUOTE] Why has no one used booty buy-in yet on the show? Can a term be too brilliant? New theory: Theresa has really just been a slightly more athletic Johanna impersonator all along.

[QUOTE=JEKFAN;382776]I agree, I don't think Johnny is out but everyone is acting like it is a forsure thing and who is the person who is still there?[/QUOTE] It wouldnt surprise me though, I dont think he dominating if its an individual challenge. He wasnt performing very well on the challenges last season. SO why do people think Johnny is out?

I would just like to say few things... First of all I'm really happy that all od you know all these people and are long time friends with them, so you have the right to talk about them in the way you do!!Things you say about Theresa and Jonna and some other people are just idiotic. I'm REALLY HAPPY you know Theresa especially that well and you know what was she going thru when FM2 was filmed...you know her relationship with all of them so ofcourse you can come to the conclusion she has no friends from the show!you are so ignorant that you don't even know there IS such thingas EDITING and PORTRAYING A PERSON in the way They want them to... But what REALLY MAKES ME HAPPY / not in a sarcastic way/ is that she will prove you all wrong and you will finally shut up... So much hate for a person you don't even know makes me sick. You should maybe start working on yourselves other than hating on social media... She is a **ore she is this and that!glad to know none of you kissed, fell in love... I could write like a book about this but I know you will already start to hate and talk sh** to me and I don't even care.I had to say what I said. Stop talking **** about her and in general people you don't know... Stuff like yeah averey johnny and zach and ashlee go on double dates, yeah nany and jemmye are best friends, yeah this and that...stop making things up... Love you all kisses

Its a TV show people are a going to talk about them.if they didn't want that they wouldn't go on the show...

[QUOTE=my name;382780]I would just like to say few things... First of all I'm really happy that all od you know all these people and are long time friends with them, so you have the right to talk about them in the way you do!!Things you say about Theresa and Jonna and some other people are just idiotic. I'm REALLY HAPPY you know Theresa especially that well and you know what was she going thru when FM2 was filmed...you know her relationship with all of them so ofcourse you can come to the conclusion she has no friends from the show!you are so ignorant that you don't even know there IS such thingas EDITING and PORTRAYING A PERSON in the way They want them to... But what REALLY MAKES ME HAPPY / not in a sarcastic way/ is that she will prove you all wrong and you will finally shut up... So much hate for a person you don't even know makes me sick. You should maybe start working on yourselves other than hating on social media... She is a **ore she is this and that!glad to know none of you kissed, fell in love... I could write like a book about this but I know you will already start to hate and talk sh** to me and I don't even care.I had to say what I said. Stop talking **** about her and in general people you don't know... Stuff like yeah averey johnny and zach and ashlee go on double dates, yeah nany and jemmye are best friends, yeah this and that...stop making things up... Love you all kisses[/QUOTE] u mad bro?

[QUOTE=my name;382780]I would just like to say few things... First of all I'm really happy that all od you know all these people and are long time friends with them, so you have the right to talk about them in the way you do!!Things you say about Theresa and Jonna and some other people are just idiotic. I'm REALLY HAPPY you know Theresa especially that well and you know what was she going thru when FM2 was filmed...you know her relationship with all of them so ofcourse you can come to the conclusion she has no friends from the show!you are so ignorant that you don't even know there IS such thingas EDITING and PORTRAYING A PERSON in the way They want them to... But what REALLY MAKES ME HAPPY / not in a sarcastic way/ is that she will prove you all wrong and you will finally shut up... So much hate for a person you don't even know makes me sick. You should maybe start working on yourselves other than hating on social media... She is a **ore she is this and that!glad to know none of you kissed, fell in love... I could write like a book about this but I know you will already start to hate and talk sh** to me and I don't even care.I had to say what I said. Stop talking **** about her and in general people you don't know... Stuff like yeah averey johnny and zach and ashlee go on double dates, yeah nany and jemmye are best friends, yeah this and that...stop making things up... Love you all kisses[/QUOTE] um are you insane?

Hahahaha Nany & Jemmye say they are best friends on twitter. We see pictures of Johnny/Averey and Zach/Ashlee going on double dates... how did we make them up? Sorry this is a website where we like to talk about the show.. without us fans, the show wouldn't even be successful.

I love the fact that by saying kisses you tried taking a state of superiority over us but your a member of the site just like us and we talk about the show,the people involved,and their relationships if you have such a big problem with it ******* leave. lol.

[QUOTE=Squad;382737]Get real... Leroy is better then Cohutta. Leroy has already been to a Final. And not to just mention a Final one of the hardest Finals in recent years. Leroy could definately hang with Zach and CT, if not win a Final with those two. I don't really see the big difference between Leroy and Zach anyway.[/QUOTE] Did you not see Leroy get smoked by Zach in that Rivals 2 elimination. Zach was popping through those chains and broke through that door like nothing. Leroy couldn't even get the door open and took forever on the chains. He's no where near as strong as Zach or CT. And how has Leroy proven to be better than Cohutta. Cohutta's the better swimmer, better at puzzles, and have more endurance. All Leroy has over him is physical strength but that usually doesn't come into play in finals surprisingly.

[QUOTE=gamer73;382771]I'm guessing Nia. Didn't someone say here that she wasn't eliminated when we had speculated she was based on Twitter and IG activity?[/QUOTE] It could be Nia, Brandon Nelson, Jasmine(keeping her until the end for strategy reasons), everyone else came later as far as eliminations, and Dustin/Frank/Jemmye/Emilee either have picture evidence or strong evidence.

[QUOTE=TeamLandon;382787]Did you not see Leroy get smoked by Zach in that Rivals 2 elimination. Zach was popping through those chains and broke through that door like nothing. Leroy couldn't even get the door open and took forever on the chains. He's no where near as strong as Zach or CT. And how has Leroy proven to be better than Cohutta. Cohutta's the better swimmer, better at puzzles, and have more endurance. All Leroy has over him is physical strength but that usually doesn't come into play in finals surprisingly.[/QUOTE] I was with you until you said Cohutta has better endurance, and this is coming from someone who likes both Leroy and Cohutta. Just because Cohutta is a smaller more agile guy doesn't mean that he has better endurance. We have never ONCE seen Cohutta in any endurance heavy event. It's like the people who say Jonna is a puzzle wizard because she completed one puzzle. Leroy said on Derrick's podcast that after the Rivals finale he changed up his whole training regimen and pretty much focused on endurance over strength. Again, I don't have a preference of one over the other, I was actually rooting for them both to win when we thought this was a team challenge...but there's no data that says Cohutta is any better of an endurance athlete than Leroy.

[QUOTE=proceed;382788]It could be Nia, Brandon Nelson, Jasmine(keeping her until the end for strategy reasons), everyone else came later as far as eliminations, and Dustin/Frank/Jemmye/Emilee either have picture evidence or strong evidence.[/QUOTE] Lexblair said he has confirmation for Brandon, Dustin, Emilee, and Jemmye being eliminated.

[QUOTE=JL81790;382789]I was with you until you said Cohutta has better endurance, and this is coming from someone who likes both Leroy and Cohutta. Just because Cohutta is a smaller more agile guy doesn't mean that he has better endurance. We have never ONCE seen Cohutta in any endurance heavy event. It's like the people who say Jonna is a puzzle wizard because she completed one puzzle. Leroy said on Derrick's podcast that after the Rivals finale he changed up his whole training regimen and pretty much focused on endurance over strength. Again, I don't have a preference of one over the other, I was actually rooting for them both to win when we thought this was a team challenge...but there's no data that says Cohutta is any better of an endurance athlete than Leroy.[/QUOTE] Hm, I thought we have... anyway take that away Cohutta's still the best bet for a final.

[QUOTE=TeamLandon;382787]Did you not see Leroy get smoked by Zach in that Rivals 2 elimination. Zach was popping through those chains and broke through that door like nothing. Leroy couldn't even get the door open and took forever on the chains. He's no where near as strong as Zach or CT. And how has Leroy proven to be better than Cohutta. Cohutta's the better swimmer, better at puzzles, and have more endurance. All Leroy has over him is physical strength but that usually doesn't come into play in finals surprisingly.[/QUOTE] Did he get smoked though? Seeing as they were so close at the end, Leroy and Ty might have actually won that elimination if Trey/Zach hadn't cheated and switched off like they were supposed to. Doing consecutive floors builds momentum, whereas switching off wastes time. I do think Zach is stronger than Leroy when it comes to brute strength, though. And how do you know Cohutta has more endurance when he's never even *been* to a final?

[QUOTE=JEKFAN;382785]Hahahaha Nany & Jemmye say they are best friends on twitter. We see pictures of Johnny/Averey and Zach/Ashlee going on double dates... how did we make them up? Sorry this is a website where we like to talk about the show.. without us fans, the show wouldn't even be successful.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying you shouldn't talk about it...just judging someone this hard is awful and sad. Can I ask you where did you see the double date pics?curious 'cause I know for a fact that didn't happen... Twitter is social media...oh I will just give up I said what I wanted to...Yes I am mad and insane totally for standing up for someone I care about when most of you talk **** and she can't do anything about it And yeah I said kisses 'cause I'm above you, dear God. Some of you have some growing up to do :)