The Challenge: Free Agents - Speculation (Spoilers)

**** Frank is gone? Hallelujah, hallelujah. I seriously hope he got his ***** beat by a guy like Zach or if it's team vs team eliminations CT or Leroy!

Thank you for the picture of Frank! Something seems off about this challenge... three people I thought would make it far already gone, especially Frank/Dustin. Idk maybe they fought each other and got kicked out? or maybe there are new rules this season? Idk it has been so unpredictable. 2 of the strongest males already gone.. Wow

[QUOTE=JEKFAN;378700]Thank you for the picture of Frank! Something seems off about this challenge... three people I thought would make it far already gone, especially Frank/Dustin. Idk maybe they fought each other and got kicked out? or maybe there are new rules this season? Idk it has been so unpredictable. 2 of the strongest males already gone.. Wow[/QUOTE] Don't rule out Chet or Brandon beating them...I would be shocked to see Dustin or Frank lose to either.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;378693]Evan solved the puzzle not Susie--rewatch the reunion show. Susie's my favorite cast member--ever--but let's not rewrite history. The odds of getting rid of every girl are slim to none but if you can you do it. By the way, that is one of the easiest puzzles in the history of puzzles. I think my 5 year old could do it. It would have taken me about 30 seconds. All you do is make a 10 piece puzzle an 8 the create a four piece by solidify the last move on the end over a double. Simple logic.[/QUOTE] You need to understand that not everyone is good at puzzles and its very hard to focus in the intense Thailand heat after throwing up and doing a **** load of running

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;378702]You need to understand that not everyone is good at puzzles and its very hard to focus in the intense Thailand heat after throwing up and doing a **** load of running[/QUOTE] People keep saying this but Evan's not a smart guy and he figured it out. You don't have to be smart just logical 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10...you make it an 8 piece puzzle by moving 7 to 10...then a 4 piece puzzle by 5 to 2...3 then goes to 8....6 to 9 and 1 to 4...that took me what...15 seconds. That's without even being able to use blocks to see it easily. Simplistic

Again let's see how fast you'd complete it if you had to do a final

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;378704]Again let's see how fast you'd complete it if you had to do a final[/QUOTE] Less than a minute--guaranteed. For the record, Ibis would also finish that in less than a minute regardless of how tired she was. Honestly, regardless of how exhausted someone is the puzzle solves itself if you understand basic logic.

Hearing frank is out just made my night. It would be even better if preston is actually there and eliminated him

If Ibis was that good at mental things like puzzles then she would have beat Kimberly in spool which is mental

Frank??this is so weird!!3 people I really thought would be there for a while. And people you use ,, great friend, best friends '' too much.Most of these people don't even talk when they are home. With the exception of The JEK dynasty and just few more there are no real friendships outside of the show.Twitter love and stuff is for Mtv and the show

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;378707]If Ibis was that good at puzzles then they would have beat Kimberly in spool which is mental[/QUOTE] Spool was highly physical...and, as Veronica pointed out--it was about the helped they received. Now if Ibis lost Sliders you'd have a point but that would have never happened

[QUOTE=Lola88;378689]When did she gas out? In cutthroat when her and Abe got sick? Please. Go make up more fabricated stuff, it's starting to get numerous at how ridiculous it is.[/QUOTE] Do you call every fact you don't like fabricated? In Laurel's podcast that she did in 2012 with Coral she said Sarah did indeed gas out, and said there was no sickness, just exhaustion because she's not a long distance runner. That's coming from Laurel who considers Sarah a close friend. She also said Sarah crying and slowing them down instead of just leaving is one of the reasons that they couldn't catch up to Red, and win. You can listen for it if you want [url=http://ultimatechallengeradio.blogspot.ca/2012/01/breaking-down-female-exes-and-corals.html]Derrick Kosinski's 'Ultimate Challenge Radio' Podcast: "Breaking Down the Female Exes and Coral's, Don't Call It a Comeback" | Podcast[/url] . And please list my numerous fabrications.

[QUOTE=proceed;378710]Do you call every fact you don't like fabricated? In Laurel's podcast that she did in 2012 with Coral she said Sarah did indeed gas out, and said there was no sickness, just exhaustion because she's not a long distance runner. That's coming from Laurel who considers Sarah a close friend. You can listen for it if you want [url=http://ultimatechallengeradio.blogspot.ca/2012/01/breaking-down-female-exes-and-corals.html]Derrick Kosinski's 'Ultimate Challenge Radio' Podcast: "Breaking Down the Female Exes and Coral's, Don't Call It a Comeback" | Podcast[/url] .[/QUOTE] And Sarah is no longer the same competitor. She's one of the better long distance people now...she learned her lesson the hard way

I really hope that this season has all physical eliminations like cutthroat aside from the drunken mess swat was, and die hard

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;378712]I really hope that this season has all physical eliminations like cutthroat aside from the drunken mess swat was, and die hard[/QUOTE] Die Hard wasn't that bad...Swat was Back up Off Me with Tina and CT was the worst idea--though Johnny got backpacked so I can live with it.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;378711]And Sarah is no longer the same competitor. She's one of the better long distance people now...she learned her lesson the hard way[/QUOTE] Eh, we haven't seen Sarah do well in a truly difficult long final like the one in Cutthroat, Rivals, or Exes. The fact that Sarah spent that entire season complaining about how much her team members sucked, and how they would ruin her chances in a final also left a bad taste in my mouth. At least Laurel can back up her big mouth.

[QUOTE=proceed;378714]Eh, we haven't seen Sarah do well in a truly difficult long final like the one in Cutthroat, Rivals, or Exes. The fact that Sarah spent that entire season complaining about how much her team members sucked, and how they would ruin her chancess in a final also left a bad taste in my mouth. At least Laurel can back up her big mouth.[/QUOTE] Her teammates have sucked in every season since Cutthroat--Chet was the only decent one. Sarah crushed the Seasons finals. Sarah runs triathlons...she can run these days

[QUOTE=kvm1977;378703]People keep saying this but Evan's not a smart guy and he figured it out. You don't have to be smart just logical 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10...you make it an 8 piece puzzle by moving 7 to 10...then a 4 piece puzzle by 5 to 2...3 then goes to 8....6 to 9 and 1 to 4...that took me what...15 seconds. That's without even being able to use blocks to see it easily. Simplistic[/QUOTE] Evan is actually incredibly intelligent.

I agree of team Brooklyn had Scott & Baya instead of JD & Devyn then Brooklyn would have easily won

[QUOTE=proceed;378716]Evan is actually incredibly intelligent.[/QUOTE] Evan will be the first to tell you that he isn't. He's not an idiot but he's far from intelligent. He was shocked he beat Johnny at a puzzle--Johnny.

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;378717]I agree of team Brooklyn had Scott & Baya instead of JD & Devyn then Brooklyn would have easily won[/QUOTE] ****, if they could have just gotten rid of JD & Devyn they would have won easily.

Guys can we keep this thread to stuff relevant to the fall 2013 challenge and the spoilers for that challenge? Their is a generic thread as well for all other stuff

[QUOTE=kvm1977;378719]Evan will be the first to tell you that he isn't. He's not an idiot but he's far from intelligent. He was shocked he beat Johnny at a puzzle--Johnny.[/QUOTE] You don't graduate from Cornell without being intelligent, imo.

[QUOTE=proceed;378722]You don't graduate from Cornell without being intelligent, imo.[/QUOTE] Cornell was a safety school for me so to each their own. I was also under the impression he didn't graduate. He definitely lied about having a hockey scholarship

[QUOTE=kvm1977;378723]Cornell was a safety school for me so to each their own. I was also under the impression he didn't graduate. He definitely lied about having a hockey scholarship[/QUOTE] You sound incredibly arrogant and not so smart.

[QUOTE=MTV Junky;378724]You sound incredibly arrogant and not so smart.[/QUOTE] Just stating facts. It is better around here when people like Lex are posting.

just saw the picture and post of frank i know its not official but if he's already gone then ... *celebrates*

Being good at puzzles doesn't necessarily mean intelligence and being bad at them doesn't necessarily make you an idiot. Frank apparently had the highest IQ score on the Real World to date and graduated from one of the top 5 liberal arts colleges in the country and he sucks at puzzles. Wes and Johnny are spoken of as being very intelligent and they're both awful at them too. Then you have guys like CT and Kenny who people talk about as being unintelligent and CT was the one solving the puzzles on Rivals II and Kenny was doing all of the puzzles in the final on Rivals I. Doesn't mean I'd ever say CT or Kenny is smarter than Wes, Johnny or Frank.

[QUOTE=jojorules;378721]Guys can we keep this thread to stuff relevant to the fall 2013 challenge and the spoilers for that challenge? Their is a generic thread as well for all other stuff[/QUOTE] There is only so much "relevant" stuff to talk about and the relevant point of conversation naturally flows into stuff considered "off topic".

[QUOTE=JL81790;378728]Being good at puzzles doesn't necessarily mean intelligence and being bad at them doesn't necessarily make you an idiot. Frank apparently had the highest IQ score on the Real World to date and graduated from one of the top 5 liberal arts colleges in the country and he sucks at puzzles. Wes and Johnny are spoken of as being very intelligent and they're both awful at them too. Then you have guys like CT and Kenny who people talk about as being unintelligent and CT was the one solving the puzzles on Rivals II and Kenny was doing all of the puzzles in the final on Rivals I. Doesn't mean I'd ever say CT or Kenny is smarter than Wes, Johnny or Frank.[/QUOTE] I don't even believe Frank had the highest on his season. Wes nor Johnny are "very intelligent" IMO but maybe I'm being unfair. I mean, they're not Derrick or anything but "very intelligent"...that I'm not buying. What school did Frank graduate from?