The only way camila was sent home first was if the losing team got to choose who they faced and the person decided to try to take out a good women player and made a real gutsy move to send in camila. I just don't see that the first elimination
[QUOTE=jojorules;377997]The only way camila was sent home first was if the losing team got to choose who they faced and the person decided to try to take out a good women player and made a real gutsy move to send in camila. I just don't see that the first elimination[/QUOTE]
Or maybe the rookies won and they wanted to get rid of Nia so they picked Camila?
Or maybe Camila ****** off someone on her team and got sacrificed--lots of options. Camila is crazy
If camila was in an alliance with ct/cara/laurel i doubt she would get thrown in by her own team, unless a rookie chose her...
besides saying they should have asked darrell, this guy cast is not bad for vets vs rookies or a duel honestly i think the eliminations wil show that in the 2nd half of the show if by some chance it is a duel
I think if Camila went home it was by her choice and not by Elimination.
This better not be a Duel. There are guys like Mark, Darrell, Derrick, and a few others who want to do once last go at a Challenge but only if it is a Duel. So much solid competition would be wasted on non-competitors if this is a Duel.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;378000]I think if Camila went home it was by her choice and not by Elimination.
This better not be a Duel. There are guys like Mark, Darrell, Derrick, and a few others who want to do once last go at a Challenge but only if it is a Duel. So much solid competition would be wasted on non-competitors if this is a Duel.[/QUOTE]
Derrick declined supposedly...so who's fault is that..If his wife won't let him we can't complain he isn't on..Camila has said she won't quit so i doubt she left on her own
[QUOTE=jojorules;377999]If camila was in an alliance with ct/cara/laurel i doubt she would get thrown in by her own team, unless a rookie chose her...
besides saying they should have asked darrell, this guy cast is not bad for vets vs rookies or a duel honestly i think the eliminations wil show that in the 2nd half of the show if by some chance it is a duel[/QUOTE]
The female cast is awful...the guy cast is average at best for a duel
[QUOTE=jojorules;378001]Derrick declined supposedly...so who's fault is that..If his wife won't let him we can't complain he isn't on..Camila has said she won't quit so i doubt she left on her own[/QUOTE]
Derrick declining would lead one to believe it wasn't a duel
I can't see Camila ever quitting--though she has threatened to
[QUOTE=jojorules;378001]Derrick declined supposedly...so who's fault is that..If his wife won't let him we can't complain he isn't on..Camila has said she won't quit so i doubt she left on her own[/QUOTE]
Maybe she knew it was not going to be a Duel...
This cast has a lot of guys with a lot of potential who need a duel to prove themselves, this could be there time, although i still doubt it's one..Either way derrick declined, so it's not bmp's fault derrick said no. If Darrell wants to i don't get why they won't ask him though he woudl be a great vet or duel player
[QUOTE=jojorules;378005]This cast has a lot of guys with a lot of potential who need a duel to prove themselves, this could be there time, although i still doubt it's one..[/QUOTE]
Potential doesn't make for a good duel because if they don't live up to that supposed potential.
If this is a duel just write Laurel and CT a check and call it a day unless they end up in an elimination with a puzzle.
Wow, I'm disappointed and surprised to hear about Camila. I was looking forward to seeing her on this one. :( Interesting that it seems like nothing is 100% clear re: the cast though.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;378006]Potential doesn't make for a good duel because if they don't live up to that supposed potential.
If this is a duel just write Laurel and CT a check and call it a day unless they end up in an elimination with a puzzle.[/QUOTE]
Potential does make a difference. Going into duel 1 did anyone ever think wes vs derrick and ct vs brad would be the best duels on the show? I wouldn't have predicted that. Or that svetlana would go far at all after watching her on her season? So if they all stink (the cast i listed) well that just means the show can't be good again and might as well cancel it but at least we know. But who knows we may get some memorable moments with the new kids which builds excitement for more shows
[QUOTE=jojorules;378008]Potential does make a difference. Going into duel 1 did anyone ever think wes vs derrick and ct vs brad would be the best duels on the show? I wouldn't have predicted that. So if they all stink (the cast i listed) well that just means the show can't be good again and might as well cancel it but at least we know. But who knows we may get some memorable moments with the new kids which builds excitement for more shows[/QUOTE]
CT and Brad wasn't...CT destroyed him but DQ'd. But, yes, we all knew those 4 could compete
You need a mix--there's no mix
[QUOTE=kvm1977;378010]CT and Brad wasn't...CT destroyed him but DQ'd. But, yes, we all knew those 4 could compete
You need a mix--there's no mix[/QUOTE]
Ct and brad was memorable though..Ct/Zach/Leroy/Jordan/Frank/Johnny B that's a lot of wins in the last 3 seasons and a lot of atheltic guys what's wrong with that. The girls side never will be a good duel imo ev is done, rachel who knows, so it's basically Laurel and middle of the road players at best
[QUOTE=kvm1977;378006]Potential doesn't make for a good duel because if they don't live up to that supposed potential.
If this is a duel just write Laurel and CT a check and call it a day unless they end up in an elimination with a puzzle.[/QUOTE]
The first duel was full of new faces and people that at the time just had potential. It was after Fresh Meat, so people there didn't have big names yet. Must of the guys were rookies:
Wes ( 2nd challenge appearance)
Evan ( 2nd challenge appearance)
Kenny (2nd challenge appearance)
Big Easy (2nd challenge appearance)
Nehemiah (1st challenge appearance)
Tyler (1st challenge appearance)
Johnny (1st challenge appearance)
(CT, Brad and Derrick were the only guys that had more than 2 challenges appearances before the Duel)
The girl side had bigger names at the time with the exception of Diem, Casey, Paula and Svetalan that were on their 1st or 2nd challenge.
I really wouldn't mind seeinfg a duel 3 with this cast, maybe some people like Jasmine shouldn't be there.
[QUOTE=jojorules;378011]Ct and brad was memorable though..Ct/Zach/Leroy/Jordan/Frank/Johnny B that's a lot of wins in the last 3 seasons and a lot of atheltic guys what's wrong with that. The girls side never will be a good duel imo ev is done, rachel who knows, so it's basically Laurel and middle of the road players at best[/QUOTE]
You said "best"--it wasn't best--it was memorable because of Wes and CT not Brad
You named 6 people--of which only 1 is definitely built for a 2--probably 2 with Leroy. Johnny's not a duel guy at all
The girl side could be good--Cooke, Sarah, Laurel, Emily, Camila, Rachel, Ashley, Ashlee, etc---this cast sucks for a duel. Aneesa's the second best in reality--horrible duel cast--that's a reality
[QUOTE=PinkRose;378013]The first duel was full of new faces and people that at the time just had potential. It was after Fresh Meat, so people there didn't have big names yet. Must of the guys were rookies:
Wes ( 2nd challenge appearance)
Evan ( 2nd challenge appearance)
Kenny (2nd challenge appearance)
Big Easy (2nd challenge appearance)
Nehemiah (1st challenge appearance)
Tyler (1st challenge appearance)
Johnny (1st challenge appearance)
(CT, Brad and Derrick were the only guys that had more than 2 challenges appearances before the Duel)
The girl side had bigger names at the time with the exception of Diem, Casey, Paula and Svetalan that were on their 1st or 2nd challenge.
I really wouldn't mind seeinfg a duel 3 with this cast, maybe some people like Jasmine shouldn't be there.[/QUOTE]
Wes reached a final with Casey, Evan dominated with Coral, Kenny reached a final--against good competition
3 newbies is standard--or should be
That's much better than this cast
A duel 3 with this cast is horrific
Then see Duel 2--far superior. We're not in the beginning stages--we know what is needed--let's not play dumb
[QUOTE=kvm1977;378015]Wes reached a final with Casey, Evan dominated with Coral, Kenny reached a final--against good competition
3 newbies is standard--or should be
That's much better than this cast
A duel 3 with this cast is horrific
Then see Duel 2--far superior. We're not in the beginning stages--we know what is needed--let's not play dumb[/QUOTE]
Zach won a challenge with Sam as a rookie and did descent on Rivals 2.
Frank won his first challenge with Sam and got 2nd on his second challenge.
Jordan/Leroy reached a final on their first challenge.
TY/Dustin/Chet reached a final.
Johnny/CT are big names on the challenges right now.
Your point? I personally would say this would be a better and proven cast for the MALE side for a duel than the first duel had at that time (Obviously, looking what the male guys had done before The first Duel and not after the Duel)
we will see, I still think it's Rookies vs Vets and Camila is out.
CT was the clear favorite in duel 1 and should of won if not for a lame technicality. So was the guy side really that great on duel 1 or better than the guys on this if it is a duel, I'd say moreso even
Ct & Wes arguing was one of the highlights and Brad got smoked by CT.
Keep in mind, the first Duel was a brand new untested format. With Duel 2, we got a really solid Challenge. Duel 3 should be practically identical intensity as Duel 2. The only real rules changes I would make for Duel 3 are more individual daily Missions with less pairs Missions and that the list for the Duel happens right after TJ, or whoever is hosting, announces the winners for each Mission. Do away with the Deliberations for the Duel. They are unnecessary and make things too complacent.
I don't think Camila was ever on either, the night after the departure someone posted on Camilla's IG that they saw her that night.
:/ the girls cast just got extra lame
[QUOTE=Lola88;378020]I don't think Camila was ever on either, the night after the departure someone posted on Camilla's IG that they saw her that night.
:/ the girls cast just got extra lame[/QUOTE]
1. One of her friend also posted on the last Instagram picture that she posted, a day before departure date "Answer my text you ******...You are leaving tommorrow and I am not gonna hangout with you on fall break or halloween...Nooooooo."Which mean she was a lock a day before the cast departed.
2. The fan girl that posted that she supposedly saw her in the same picture days after, is also from Miami where Camila have her business.
3. The only thing I am not getting is why she hasn't posted a picture on instagram or tweet since departure date, if she is not on it or were not on it she doesn't have a social network banned. Plus her sister that live here in the US posted a picture with "I miss my sister" 2 days ago.
So either she was on it and something happened shortly after departure (Like Sydney on seasons or maybe Naomi on Rivals 2) , she fought someone or she got eliminated at some point.
[QUOTE=proceed;377988]I feel like "weak" on this forum means under 30.[/QUOTE]
No. Weak on this Forum means "Castmembers who are new and Fresh and didn't appear on Real World/Road Rules back in the late 90's/Early to Mid 2000's"
[QUOTE=hannamez8;377992]I think why most people think this cast is bad for a duel 3 because there are many other top players, such as Darrell, who are willing to come back for this type of challenge.[/QUOTE]
We don't NEED top competitors for a Duel that's just what everyone wants to see.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;378000]I think if Camila went home it was by her choice and not by Elimination.
This better not be a Duel. There are guys like Mark, Darrell, Derrick, and a few others who want to do once last go at a Challenge but only if it is a Duel. So much solid competition would be wasted on non-competitors if this is a Duel.[/QUOTE]
Who cares how Camilla went home? I'm glad she's off this challenge. One less Non-Castmember to pollute my TV.
And Solid Competition? Please. Those three you listed probably won't even go into.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;378014]You said "best"--it wasn't best--it was memorable because of Wes and CT not Brad
You named 6 people--of which only 1 is definitely built for a 2--probably 2 with Leroy. Johnny's not a duel guy at all
The girl side could be good--Cooke, Sarah, Laurel, Emily, Camila, Rachel, Ashley, Ashlee, etc---this cast sucks for a duel. Aneesa's the second best in reality--[B]horrible duel cast--that's a reality[/B][/QUOTE]
Nope that's your opinion.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;378015]Wes reached a final with Casey, Evan dominated with Coral, Kenny reached a final--against good competition
3 newbies is standard--or should be
That's much better than this cast
A duel 3 with this cast is horrific
Then see Duel 2--far superior. We're not in the beginning stages--[B]we know what is needed--let's not play dumb[/B][/QUOTE]
No you don't. You know what YOU want to see
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;378018]Ct & Wes arguing was one of the highlights and Brad got smoked by CT.
Keep in mind, the first Duel was a brand new untested format. [B]With Duel 2, we got a really solid Challenge.[/B] Duel 3 should be practically identical intensity as Duel 2. The only real rules changes I would make for Duel 3 are more individual daily Missions with less pairs Missions and that the list for the Duel happens right after TJ, or whoever is hosting, announces the winners for each Mission. Do away with the Deliberations for the Duel. They are unnecessary and make things too complacent.[/QUOTE]
No we didn't The Duel 2 was a very Bland and Forgettable. the only thing worth Mentioning is that Brutal and Scary fight with CT and Adam.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;378023]Actually weak means non-competitors who are there just to boost drama[/QUOTE]
And you know what? Those Drama boosters are needed.
The non-competitor drama booster is not needed... if they can compete and add drama I'm fine with that but if all they are there for is drama then I'd rather not see them
[QUOTE=Debut Album;378025]We don't NEED top competitors for a Duel that's just [B]what everyone wants to see[/B].
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That's what I said. But you rather see weak competitors, such as Jasmine?
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