The Challenge: Rivals II - Cooke & Naomi

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[QUOTE=AnneK;366743]Which would be a testament to Nany's good heart, not Diem's. That Nany can forgive quickly and move on is a good thing, I don't think Diem possesses that same quality. It can be frustrating to see Diem receive quick forgiveness for her mistakes, while she holds on to anger when she is on the receiving end of other people's mistakes. That is the perception that I have in all of this.[/QUOTE] Perception is reality, especially on a reality show (pun intended).
[QUOTE=nmanderson;366755]Anne, you seem like a bright person. I know you know the terms slander and libel. How could she blog a name? Even if she wanted to?[/QUOTE] Really? Why are you so hung up on her not naming Cooke? Clearly I'm not. I'm saying the description of the events leading to Diem feeling slighted, emotionally abused, offended, whatever, are vague. THAT is the point I'm making. V1man has explained that because the show is still ongoing it may not be appropriate (legal) for Diem to explain in detail what happened (my interpretation of his post). I accept that, but I am letting it be known, for what that's worth, that there is a lot of explaining to do on Diem's part, if she wants me to believe that she was really victimized by Cooke, aka "that girl"or whoever. Of course it is also her prerogative to not care what I think. I'm fine with that too.
I do believe there is more to the story with Diem and Cooke. Im hoping Cooke's true colors are the ones put on blast, and Im praying it all goes down at the reunion. Cooke needs to be called out
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Guys diem said in aftershow she was told cooke msde an effort to mentally break diem down and laugh at her misfortune during rivals 2 .. She said she is sorry if wasnt true but wss told it was
[QUOTE=Christy1;366777]I do believe there is more to the story with Diem and Cooke. Im hoping Cooke's true colors are the ones put on blast, and Im praying it all goes down at the reunion. Cooke needs to be called out[/QUOTE] I don't think it's all about Cooke though. Diem had disagreements with a lot of people this season.
Maybe- but You can tell just by Diem's reaction towards Cooke, she really DOES NOT like that girl and despite what all the Diem haters think,thats very unlike Diem to not like someone that much- there has to be more of a reason
[QUOTE=AnneK;366770]Really? Why are you so hung up on her not naming Cooke? Clearly I'm not. I'm saying the description of the events leading to Diem feeling slighted, emotionally abused, offended, whatever, are vague. THAT is the point I'm making. V1man has explained that because the show is still ongoing it may not be appropriate (legal) for Diem to explain in detail what happened (my interpretation of his post). I accept that, but I am letting it be known, for what that's worth, that there is a lot of explaining to do on Diem's part, if she wants me to believe that she was really victimized by Cooke, aka "that girl"or whoever. Of course it is also her prerogative to not care what I think. I'm fine with that too.[/QUOTE] Anne, I don't care whether she names Cooke by name or not. I understand your point and why you would like her to do so. Don't know what to say except ask her. You can leave a comment or question on her people blog (longer than 140 characters, a little easier to explain things). I haven't looked at MedGift's website but you might be able to ask her privately through there. Maybe message through her FB page. As you've seen, I like Diem and support her cause re: MedGift. There have been Challenges when I've really liked her and Challenges when she got on my nerves but I've always respected her work on her charity and respected her willingness to share her story with the world. For someone who is very self-conscious of what people think and whether they like her, the fact that she tells so much about herself and her battles with cancer is amazing. They say if you put nine women in a room, one of them will have had breast cancer. If you put nine of my closest female friends in a room, six of them have had breast cancer. My sister is a 20 year survivor of cervical cancer. Most people can tell stories like this but it is a subject especially close to my heart. I admire what Diem Brown, at age 31, has been able to do.
[QUOTE=nmanderson;366788]Anne, I don't care whether she names Cooke by name or not. I understand your point and why you would like her to do so. Don't know what to say except ask her. You can leave a comment or question on her people blog (longer than 140 characters, a little easier to explain things). I haven't looked at MedGift's website but you might be able to ask her privately through there. Maybe message through her FB page. As you've seen, I like Diem and support her cause re: MedGift. There have been Challenges when I've really liked her and Challenges when she got on my nerves but I've always respected her work on her charity and respected her willingness to share her story with the world. For someone who is very self-conscious of what people think and whether they like her, the fact that she tells so much about herself and her battles with cancer is amazing. They say if you put nine women in a room, one of them will have had breast cancer. If you put nine of my closest female friends in a room, six of them have had breast cancer. My sister is a 20 year survivor of cervical cancer. Most people can tell stories like this but it is a subject especially close to my heart. I admire what Diem Brown, at age 31, has been able to do.[/QUOTE] This isn't about whether she likes Cooke or not. Cooke herself said that she is fine with Diem not liking her. It seems to me that Diem is trying to explain a lot of her inappropriate behavior away by saying "that girl was mean to me". She IS NOT taking responsibility for her actions. That in a nutshell is the point I am trying to make. It isn't Diem's responsibility to explain herself to me, I am not her judge. However, if she is going to point the finger at someone else, which is my impression of what she is doing, she better have some solid reasons why that is the case.
[QUOTE=AnneK;366789]This isn't about whether she likes Cooke or not. Cooke herself said that she is fine with Diem not liking her. It seems to me that Diem is trying to explain a lot of her inappropriate behavior away by saying "that girl was mean to me". She IS NOT taking responsibility for her actions. That in a nutshell is the point I am trying to make. It isn't Diem's responsibility to explain herself to me, I am not her judge. However, if she is going to point the finger at someone else, which is my impression of what she is doing, she better have some solid reasons why that is the case.[/QUOTE] We just see it differently. I don't care if Cooke is fine with Diem not liking her. I don't care if Diem doesn't like her and never spells out her reasons. It's a reality TV show not a presidential election. What Diem showed this past episode is what she was feeling. Was it overhanded? I don't care. Things occurred and we got to see what they showed us. It's an entertainment program. Nothing more, nothing less.
She didn't say Cooke's name because she hates her so much she wouldn't give her the spotlight of being in people
Could be, Challenge 17, could be
[QUOTE=PaintedVeil;366740]Cooke was given a good edit on her RW season. So it is plausible that they gave her a good one on The Challenge as well. She was actually really nasty to Heather. They edited out the part where it was revealed that Dustin's friend, who Cooke slept with, had a girl back home. Cooke went to Heather for advice, then a couple of days later tried to sleep with Dustin. I really like Cooke, but she does seem to have a strong competitive side when it comes to men.[/QUOTE] I'd say it's more than being [I]competitive[/I]. Competitive is usually a positive term. It seems to me like Cooke has a lot of issues, and maybe it makes her feel inadequate to see couples who seem actually happy together. Perhaps she feels that she needs to impose herself on[I] those[/I] men in order to prove to herself and others that she's "better" than other girls--ones who are capable of achieving a meaningful, happy, long-term relationship. After all, isn't that what characterizes a man-eater? It would be interesting to see what her parents' relationship was like and how that has affected her views of relationships and ***. I see on Wikipedia that her parents' marriage and family is referenced as tight-knit, but I'm curious how her one-on-one relationship is with her dad in particular. Daddy issues often lend themselves to man-eaters. ;) /end psychological roleplay
Cooke has always been a predator. You could tell that on her RW when she went after Zito. She is probably the girl that only sleeps with married men.
ok...so Cooke likes to sleep around with men. BIG FLIPPING DEAL. Im not saying I agree with this in any form of the matter but, that's her prerogative. Now its not cool to be a homewrecker/ sleep with people in a relationship but CT and Diem were/are not in a relationship. Why the **** did Diem say that Cooke was flirting with CT only to get back at her??? Like chick, that mother****er flirts with every woman. He's probably flirt with a 75 year old great grandma if it made his *** look good. Ugh. Like I don't get her and why she still likes him or why she feels or would want to feel possessive over him. He seems to have no problem making her cry and . I wish she would just end it and him and whatever this weird relationship of theirs is.
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;366926]ok...so Cooke likes to sleep around with men. BIG FLIPPING DEAL. Im not saying I agree with this in any form of the matter but, that's her prerogative. Now its not cool to be a homewrecker/ sleep with people in a relationship but CT and Diem were/are not in a relationship. Why the **** did Diem say that Cooke was flirting with CT only to get back at her??? Like chick, that mother****er flirts with every woman. He's probably flirt with a 75 year old great grandma if it made his *** look good. Ugh. Like I don't get her and why she still likes him or why she feels or would want to feel possessive over him. He seems to have no problem making her cry and . I wish she would just end it and him and whatever this weird relationship of theirs is.[/QUOTE] She will end it soon and put you out of your misery.
[QUOTE=V1man;367055]She will end it soon and put you out of your misery.[/QUOTE] Thank Goodness! And good for her!
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;367062]Thank Goodness! And good for her![/QUOTE] And finally you'll be able to sleep at night!
[QUOTE=AyeOhKay;367065]And finally you'll be able to sleep at night![/QUOTE] I sleep perfectly fine. But good looking out! :)
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