The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

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[QUOTE=Christy1;365722]t b Does anyone know what is the story behind Cooke and Diem that is WILLING to spill the beans?[/QUOTE] Be patient. I expect Diem will tell us in our interview with her in just a couple of days (hopefully for Wednesday morning publication).
Back to CT and his six hookups according to Zach... I think they were... Jessica, Anastasia, Theresa, Nany, Cooke, and Diem in that order.
Wes/CT are a better team than Kenny/Wes. I feel like CT gets in a fight with everyone due to him being drunk but he could careless about it the next day. Kenny and Wes actually hated each other due to Johanna and Wes could never let that go.
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I like when i clicked the info for the aftershow wednesday it says jemmye camila diem and aneesa discuss the final womens elimination and ct offers info on a past hookup... Spoiler much dish network guide?
[QUOTE=nmanderson;365753]Constructively look at a situation...I'd applaud your efforts to do that. Let me know when that happens, will ya? I'm the one who calls it " 10 minutes of Diem Hate" so I guess this one's for me. Objectivity is not the first thing I think of when I read some of the comments (mine included) on here and that's fine. We're not conversing about nuclear energy after all; we're talking about things that occur in a reality show. Everyone is offering their opinions; everyone has their favorite(s); and everyone is entitled to their own and to offer defenses or rebuttals to what is previously posted. Fan-girling/hatred? Not sure what that is except more of the same ad hominem nonsense I hate to see. We can all agree to disagree. That's what should make this fun.[/QUOTE] The first part was indirectly directed towards you the second part was a general statement, simply saying that one should have the ability to look at things objectively - Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion, but taking both sides into account never hurts... "fangirling/favouritism" or "hating" clouds ones judgement and prevents exactly this from happening... especially on platforms where a lot of ppl come together(forums, social networks etc..), the lack of objectivity can easily result in hypocritical statements (evident here too: Johnny / CT etc...) (like i said not directed towards you)
So these are the some of the scenes that stood out in the trailers/intro but weren't shown in any of the episodes: Extended CT vs Frank Extended Aneesa vs Trishelle with Diem getting involved and held back Extended CT and Wes vs Johnny CT slamming Ty's head onto the table Jasmine being held back by Nany and another scene of her throwing her drink torwards the guys Theresa and Camila altercation Camila to Theresa: "You screwed me over twice in a row!" The wrestling matchups (Nany vs Emily) Leroy to Jonna: "You don't hvae our backs, bye!" Scenes yet to be shown: Paula to Emily: "I don't care who we **** off" CT and Cooke cuddled up Diem: "I trust Wes more than I trust CT" Camila and Jemmeye calling out Diem
[QUOTE=V1man;365762]Be patient. I expect Diem will tell us in our interview with her in just a couple of days (hopefully for Wednesday morning publication).[/QUOTE] I am trying ! I'm just hoping everyone see's Cooke for her true colors and Diem isn't gonna be painted as the villan. Interesting thing I noticed,not many of the cast follow Cooke on Twitter and the aftershow they all filmed, Cooke wasn't apart of the outing afterwards with the rest of the group. But then again, if Cooke did somthing so malicious, why would being like Laurel and I think Camila follow her, when they are very close with Diem.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;365798]So these are the some of the scenes that stood out in the trailers/intro but weren't shown in any of the episodes: Extended CT vs Frank Extended Aneesa vs Trishelle with Diem getting involved and held back Extended CT and Wes vs Johnny CT slamming Ty's head onto the table Jasmine being held back by Nany and another scene of her throwing her drink torwards the guys Theresa and Camila altercation Camila to Theresa: "You screwed me over twice in a row!" The wrestling matchups (Nany vs Emily) Leroy to Jonna: "You don't hvae our backs, bye!" Scenes yet to be shown: Paula to Emily: "I don't care who we **** off" CT and Cooke cuddled up Diem: "I trust Wes more than I trust CT" Camila and Jemmeye calling out Diem[/QUOTE] Yeah there's been so many, I lost count, I really think they been editing on the fly as the season has been progressing. It sucks because I really wanted to see all of those scenes. 40 minutes just isn't enough to show everything unfortunately :(
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;365798]So these are the some of the scenes that stood out in the trailers/intro but weren't shown in any of the episodes: Extended CT vs Frank Extended Aneesa vs Trishelle with Diem getting involved and held back Extended CT and Wes vs Johnny CT slamming Ty's head onto the table Jasmine being held back by Nany and another scene of her throwing her drink torwards the guys Theresa and Camila altercation Camila to Theresa: "You screwed me over twice in a row!" The wrestling matchups (Nany vs Emily) Leroy to Jonna: "You don't hvae our backs, bye!" Scenes yet to be shown: Paula to Emily: "I don't care who we **** off" CT and Cooke cuddled up Diem: "I trust Wes more than I trust CT" Camila and Jemmeye calling out Diem[/QUOTE] I think viewers respond negatively about the Nia and Avery fight and the way production handle it and thats why they didn't show some 'physical altercation' thats just my opinion i could be wrong
[QUOTE=Christy1;365800]I am trying ! I'm just hoping everyone see's Cooke for her true colors and Diem isn't gonna be painted as the villan. Interesting thing I noticed,not many of the cast follow Cooke on Twitter and the aftershow they all filmed, Cooke wasn't apart of the outing afterwards with the rest of the group. But then again, if Cooke did somthing so malicious, why would being like Laurel and I think Camila follow her, when they are very close with Diem.[/QUOTE] Maybe what Cooke did was not a part of the challenge? Perhaps it was both before and after?
[QUOTE=DarkFights;365802]I think viewers responded negatively about the Nia and Avery fight and the way production handle it and thats why they didn't show some 'physical altercation' thats just my opinion i could be wrong[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=V1man;365808]Maybe what Cooke did was not a part of the challenge? Perhaps it was both before and after?[/QUOTE] Do you think it will be said during their aftershow? So weird, Why Cooke would have a problem with Diem before the challenge. Didn't think they knew each other
[QUOTE=Christy1;365813]Do you think it will be said during their after show? So weird, Why Cooke would have a problem with Diem before the challenge. Didn't think they knew each other[/QUOTE] You are thinking too narrowly. I just can go there until after the episode on Wed. As I've written elsewhere, I'm hoping Diem puts this in context in her interview with us.
I am disliking diem, I feel like she just plays the game innocent
They could still show the wrestling match in the **** they should've shown
Hey just a thought.... Trey was on the last AfterBuzz TV episode and they were discussing predictions for next week's jungle. Trey said that he thinks a good team will get disqualified during the elimination round. I just watched the mid-season tease on MTV and saw that Jemmye/Camilia and Aneesa/Diem go into the final girls elimination round where you have to use the small saw to cut the rope. Now I cant remember where I heard this, but there was an interview where one of the cast members said that you could not use both hands in that mission. However, when I watched the tease and I noticed that Camilia is holding the rope with both hands while Jemmye looks to be cutting the rope with one hand and using her other hand to hold the rope in place. Both Anessa and Diem were cutting the rope, using only one of their hands. I wonder if Camilia and Jemmye get disqualified for this. Just a thought...
[QUOTE=Christy1;365813]Do you think it will be said during their aftershow? So weird, Why Cooke would have a problem with Diem before the challenge. Didn't think they knew each other[/QUOTE] You just can't have patience, can you? Again, you are thinking inside the box. ("thinking too narrowily." The answer is outside the box. PS. If you had been creative and approached the question via PM, I might have been more helpful.
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;365865]Hey just a thought.... Trey was on the last AfterBuzz TV episode and they were discussing predictions for next week's jungle. Trey said that he thinks a good team will get disqualified during the elimination round. I just watched the mid-season tease on MTV and saw that Jemmye/Camilia and Aneesa/Diem go into the final girls elimination round where you have to use the small saw to cut the rope. Now I cant remember where I heard this, but there was an interview where one of the cast members said that you could not use both hands in that mission. However, when I watched the tease and I noticed that Camilia is holding the rope with both hands while Jemmye looks to be cutting the rope with one hand and using her other hand to hold the rope in place. Both Anessa and Diem were cutting the rope, using only one of their hands. I wonder if Camilia and Jemmye get disqualified for this. Just a thought...[/QUOTE] Excellent catch!
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;365865]Hey just a thought.... Trey was on the last AfterBuzz TV episode and they were discussing predictions for next week's jungle. Trey said that he thinks a good team will get disqualified during the elimination round. I just watched the mid-season tease on MTV and saw that Jemmye/Camilia and Aneesa/Diem go into the final girls elimination round where you have to use the small saw to cut the rope. Now I cant remember where I heard this, but there was an interview where one of the cast members said that you could not use both hands in that mission. However, when I watched the tease and I noticed that Camilia is holding the rope with both hands while Jemmye looks to be cutting the rope with one hand and using her other hand to hold the rope in place. Both Anessa and Diem were cutting the rope, using only one of their hands. I wonder if Camilia and Jemmye get disqualified for this. Just a thought...[/QUOTE] Thanks for the excellent detective work! Well written post, too!
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;365865]Hey just a thought.... Trey was on the last AfterBuzz TV episode and they were discussing predictions for next week's jungle. Trey said that he thinks a good team will get disqualified during the elimination round. I just watched the mid-season tease on MTV and saw that Jemmye/Camilia and Aneesa/Diem go into the final girls elimination round where you have to use the small saw to cut the rope. Now I cant remember where I heard this, but there was an interview where one of the cast members said that you could not use both hands in that mission. However, when I watched the tease and I noticed that Camilia is holding the rope with both hands while Jemmye looks to be cutting the rope with one hand and using her other hand to hold the rope in place. Both Anessa and Diem were cutting the rope, using only one of their hands. [B]I wonder if Camilia and Jemmye get disqualified for this. Just a thought...[/B][/QUOTE] Since this is a spoiler thread. Obviously not, but it could be the other way around and Diem/Aneesa could get disqualified for something.
I think it's more likely that Diem and Aneesa get screwed because they followed the rules and Camilla and Jemmeye do not. They only used one hand like the rules were stated and wanted a DQ for Camilla and Jemmeye but the producers didn't do anything. Could be another "gray" area in the rules but as stated above, the rules were clearly stated.
[QUOTE=hafnerfan69;365885]I think it's more likely that Diem and Aneesa get screwed because they followed the rules and Camilla and Jemmeye do not. They only used one hand like the rules were stated and wanted a DQ for Camilla and Jemmeye but the producers didn't do anything. Could be another "gray" area in the rules but as stated above,[B] the rules were clearly stated[/B].[/QUOTE] Cut the ropes, was only played once before and you see them using both hands to hold the saw more than once, so I wonder about "the rules were clearly stated" part...JMHO also, rules do get changed... CM said in a podcast that the mission took really long bc the saw kept breaking and getting stuck... perhaps we should wait for the actual episode before declaring that Diem/A were screwed.(which would be IMO kinda stupid bc teams had been DQ before in the Jungle so why not now..)
[QUOTE=LexBlair;365889]Cut the ropes, was only played once before and you see them [B]using both hands to hold the saw[/B] more than once, so I wonder about "the rules were clearly stated" part...JMHO also, rules do get changed... CM said in a podcast that the mission took really long bc the saw kept breaking and getting stuck... perhaps we should wait for the actual episode before declaring that Diem/A were screwed.(which would be IMO kinda stupid bc [B]teams had been DQ before in the Jungle so why not now[/B]..)[/QUOTE] My point goes along with Imjustsayin's post. They said that you couldn't use one hand with the saw and the other to hold the rope so that it was easier to cut with the saw. I think that is why Diem and Aneesa feel slighted. IMO they think Camilla and Jemmeye should have been DQ'd. We probably won't see if this is the case because of editing though. BMP wouldn't want to look bad and make it look like the game is rigged.
[QUOTE=hafnerfan69;365906]My point goes along with Imjustsayin's post. They said that [B]you couldn't use one hand with the saw and the other to hold the rope[/B] so that it was easier to cut with the saw. I think that is why Diem and Aneesa feel slighted. IMO they think Camilla and Jemmeye should have been DQ'd. We probably won't see if this is the case because of editing though. BMP wouldn't want to look bad and make it look like the game is rigged.[/QUOTE] Well we only see Camila clearly and she is not holding onto the rope, Jemmye's other hand/arm is not visible, bc of C... (if anything, I believe if she were to hold onto the rope with her other hand, we would see it clearly bc of the dark gloves...yet we only see one dark spot on/near the rope) and just bc Diem/Aneesa are not using their other hands in this 1 second-clip it doesn't mean that they did not use it at all... JMO [ATTACH]2808[/ATTACH]
it Looks Like Their is 2 ropes
[QUOTE=DarkFights;365917]it Looks Like Their is 2 ropes[/QUOTE] yes there are... TBH, C/J have the winning strategy bc they are facing away from each other, whereas D/A cut from the same side. - just like in the CM/Cooke vs Ana/Jess elimination round-
So CT hurts Diem's feelings by confessing a hookup or multiple from the past? Maybe a friend of hers?
[QUOTE=RWaddict;365924]So CT hurts Diem's feelings by confessing a hookup or multiple from the past? Maybe a friend of hers?[/QUOTE] Where did you hear this information? I don't see what this has to do with Cooke. Are you implying that CT devises a plan to get rid of Diem with Cooke's help?
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;365978]Where did you hear this information? I don't see what this has to do with Cooke. Are you implying that CT devises a plan to get rid of Diem with Cooke's help?[/QUOTE] Maybe he gets seduced by Cooke
cooke sexy as **** and she do have a way of seducing people (Dustin zito)

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