The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

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[QUOTE=LexBlair;365655]It's very slimy.... Especially since she does it bc she is too scared to go against Cooke/CM(a pair that would have been the obvious choice, and a team she has herself has a personal problem with...) and here is the thing though... she said she wants to do so, not bc she essentially thinks that she can beat C/J as opposed to Cooke/CM but bc she would rather loose to Camila than Cooke...)[/QUOTE] Annnd she's been hinting that Cooke did something untoward to avoid getting sent in. Scandalous people, it's downright scandalous! :eek-new:
Diem lost in eliminateion rounds BC I can was stupid and she stepped off in the duel [B]2[/B] someone said it was the duel 3
[QUOTE=V1man;365667][B]It's not a neutral elimination. Watch it very carefully, perhaps in slow motion and you will see something rather odd. [/B] An afterthought as well: How would any of us do in this environment after a team of docs takes its scalpel to your insides, boils you with radiation, and then fills your blood stream with toxic chemicals designed to kill? Then, in the absent of your docs you take begin unmonitored hormone replacement therapy. I'm damn amazed the girl could even walk through the LAX concourse to get on the flight to Thailand.[/QUOTE] Have you seen the elimination round, or are you speculating? I will definitely do as you suggest and watch it in slow motion. As far as your afterthought is concerned,if I had experienced what Diem experienced I think I would avoid strenuous travel and stressful environments. Stress, as we all know, has a very negative effect on the immune system and the bodies ability to heal. Diem is a grown woman, capable of making her own choices, but since you asked the question I decided to answer it.
Jeeze I didn't think my comments would start a ****storm hahaha..I don't get the Diem hate, she picked the easier team because she wants to win her first challenge and her friend actually already won before so what's the problem? If you had friends on the show and you were at the end you wouldn't pick your friend who you could beat but instead pick someone else? That's either not true or very stupid..I don't care what kind of competition it is, if I was on a show I would pick the person who I could beat even if it was a friend, this is a competition friendships are left at home Actually maybe girls are the ones feeling this way but as a guy, hell if we play a pickup game of football you want to smash your friends even if it's a game for fun, so why would a game for money be any different? Diem is getting a lot of crap for no reason Edit: I'd much rather lose to a friend as well than an enemy..There's a lot more going on mentally if you face someone you dislike, a friend it's whatever if you lose your friend wins..it's actually odd she'd go with anyone other than Camila
[QUOTE=V1man;365667]It's not a neutral elimination. Watch it very carefully, perhaps in slow motion and you will see something rather odd. An afterthought as well: How would any of us do in this environment after a team of docs takes its scalpel to your insides, boils you with radiation, and then fills your blood stream with toxic chemicals designed to kill? Then, in the absent of your docs you take begin unmonitored hormone replacement therapy. I'm damn amazed the girl could even walk through the LAX concourse to get on the flight to Thailand.[/QUOTE] I could not have said this better myself. The funny thing (funny peculiar) with the 10 minutes of Diem hate tonight is Camilla was so scarred by her slimy friend, Diem, that she continues to hang out with her, do interviews with her, tweet to her, take photos with her. That seems like a genuine friendship that evolved between and among Camilla, Emily, Paula and Diem after Battle of the Exes. You don't pick Paula/Emily because of their superior play so far; you don't pick Cara and Cooke because Cara can pull it together and Cooke is a pro athlete. So....if you're Camilla and Jemmeye, you have to pick Diem and Aneesa and vice versa. To their credit, doesn't sound like Camilla and Diem lost their friendship over it.
[QUOTE=nmanderson;365688]I could not have said this better myself. The funny thing (funny peculiar) with the 10 minutes of Diem hate tonight is Camilla was so [B]scarred by her slimy friend,[/B] Diem, that she continues to hang out with her, do interviews with her, tweet to her, take photos with her. That seems like a genuine friendship that evolved between and among Camilla, Emily, Paula and Diem after Battle of the Exes. You don't pick Paula/Emily because of their superior play so far; you don't pick Cara and Cooke because Cara can pull it together and Cooke is a pro athlete. [U][B]So....if you're Camilla and Jemmeye, you have to pick Diem and Aneesa[/B][/U] and vice versa. To their credit, doesn't sound like Camilla and Diem lost their friendship over it.[/QUOTE] nobody said she was "scarred" by her... she was hurt by her... but she decided to eventually move past that to save their friendship... this will be talked about at the reunion and to the underlined part... actually this was something that had been talked about BEFORE the challenge(I am pretty sure it will be shown during the episode, bc contributes to the story-line later on...)
and can we stop this stupid "hating" thing.... So what, if you do not like the way somebody behaves in a certain situation and you say sth about it then you "hate" on her? TBH, if you cannot constructively look at a situation without your "fan-girling"/"hatred" compromising your way of thinking... well then that's rather sad.
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[QUOTE=LexBlair;365692]and can we stop this stupid "hating" thing.... So what, if you do not like the way somebody behaves in a certain situation and you say sth about it then you "hate" on her? TBH, if you cannot constructively look at a situation without your "fan-girling"/"hatred" compromising your way of thinking... well then that's rather sad.[/QUOTE] Agree! thanks for saying that...no one is immmune...a lotta people get criticized wayyyy more and no one cares aka johnny frank etc .. Everyone can be critisized if they make a mistake it is not like the cast cares and if they really care what everyome thinks dont be on an edited show.. Everyone has been hated on during different stages
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Lexblair u know who will be at live reunion u seem to know the story this season ? My guess is 6 final teams and last 4 people eliminated
[QUOTE=LexBlair;365691]nobody said she was "scarred" by her... she was hurt by her... but she decided to eventually move past that to save their friendship... this will be talked about at the reunion and to the underlined part... actually this was something that had been talked about BEFORE the challenge(I am pretty sure it will be shown during the episode, bc contributes to the story-line later on...)[/QUOTE] You're right, nobody said it...just a little hyperbole thrown into the boiling oil, kinda like saying Diem threw her under the bus. Something talked about before the challenge? By...the players or the observers? The sneak peak for episode 10 shows a conversation among the vet girls about this very subject. They all agree they stuck together and got to where they are but now they have to play. Paula is very upset by it all. Says she see the tsunami coming where friendships will be ruined. Gotta love her!
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I think johnny and ct are friends off the show but are so competitive with eschother and have such a history of head to head on the show they clash.. Ct understands its a game johnny usually takes things personal atleadt from the derrick podcast days but maybe he is learning
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I know marlon was a linebacker and all as people like to say he is athletic but i really think jordan is the better performer and has a ton more endurance .. Not sure how marlon would do solo
[QUOTE=jojorules;365701]I think johnny and ct are friends off the show but are so competitive with eschother and have such a history of head to head on the show they clash.. Ct understands its a game johnny usually takes things personal atleadt from the derrick podcast days but maybe he is learning[/QUOTE] Yeah they definitely are, CT always gets in arguments with people on the show then is cool with them again the next day. I think he just wanted to stick up for Wes so that Wes doesnt get discouraged about Johnnys comments, CT/Wes are doing well atm and loosing faith in themselves right before the final would be bad. I still dont get why Johnny got that angry over that comment, his face looked like he wanted to butcher Wes, definitely struck a nerve.
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Because johnny and wes truly hate eachother.. Side note .. Cooke maybe outperforming cara clearly but i dont think cookes a good teammate she is so negstive towsrds her all the time.. Like what if ct was belittling adam on rivals 1 every challenge? She saya she is just competitive but cara doednt respond well to that type of motivation
[QUOTE=nmanderson;365688]I could not have said this better myself. The funny thing (funny peculiar) with the 10 minutes of Diem hate tonight is Camilla was so scarred by her slimy friend, Diem, that she continues to hang out with her, do interviews with her, tweet to her, take photos with her. That seems like a genuine friendship that evolved between and among Camilla, Emily, Paula and Diem after Battle of the Exes. You don't pick Paula/Emily because of their superior play so far; you don't pick Cara and Cooke because Cara can pull it together and Cooke is a pro athlete. So....if you're Camilla and Jemmeye, you have to pick Diem and Aneesa and vice versa. To their credit, doesn't sound like Camilla and Diem lost their friendship over it.[/QUOTE] I don't hate Diem, nothing could be further from the truth. I am only commenting on what the way she plays the game. There is no judgement passed on her or any other cast member. Okay, that's not true, I hate the way Johnny treats women.
In the beginning I really thought Johnny & Frank were going to be pretty good team the beginning and then heading towards the Final they we're just going to kill the competitions but somehow blow the Final. But in actuality they were a pretty good team in the beginning but thus far heading towards the Final they're looking like 2nd tier team with Frank having to pick up Johnny's slack. On the flip side I thought CT & Wes were going to be a so-so team all season but kill it in the final kinda like on Cutthroat where the Gray team was the best all season long and the Red team was so-so but Red ended up winning the Final. But in actuality for the past 3 competitions CT & Wes have really stood out and work really well as a team and won the past 2 competitions so seeing CT & Wes win the Final doesn't seem like much of an upset to me as of now they look like the team that's going to win this season.
[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;365706]In the beginning I really thought Johnny & Frank were going to be pretty good team the beginning and then heading towards the Final they we're just going to kill the competitions but somehow blow the Final. But in actuality they were a pretty good team in the beginning but thus far heading towards the Final they're looking like 2nd tier team with Frank having to pick up Johnny's slack. On the flip side I thought CT & Wes were going to be a so-so team all season but kill it in the final kinda like on Cutthroat where the Gray team was the best all season long and the Red team was so-so but Red ended up winning the Final. But in actuality for the past 3 competitions CT & Wes have really stood out and work really well as a team and won the past 2 competitions so seeing CT & Wes win the Final doesn't seem like much of an upset to me as of now they look like the team that's going to win this season.[/QUOTE] And whats odd is that the challenges they did win, it was by a landslide. The rampage challenge and the swimming one CT/Wes did very well and everyone else did complete **** (besides Frank, he held his own) I dont get it, they really started to get it together after the dog shock challenge, they almost won that too. Hope they win the next one too, that will make a well deserved challenge win and ppl wont go back and nit pick and say CT/Wes got lucky when they won the challenge. Its similar to how Wes won duel 1, coasted the 1st half, beat derrick then won the last 2 challenges and got himself to the final
[url=http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/953737/ep-10-sneak-peek.jhtml#id=1713631]Ep. 10 | Sneak Peek | Video | MTV[/url]
Everytime the camera makes a close up to paula's face, I die a little bit. She and johnny look old.
[QUOTE=stuufman;365715]Everytime the camera makes a close up to paula's face, I die a little bit. She and johnny look old.[/QUOTE] Trueeee
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Paula looked soooooo hungover in that convo with diem last episode about ct
[QUOTE=jojorules;365719]Paula looked soooooo hungover in that convo with diem last episode about ct[/QUOTE] t b Does anyone know what is the story behind Cooke and Diem that is WILLING to spill the beans?
[QUOTE=Blue123;365703]Yeah they definitely are, CT always gets in arguments with people on the show then is cool with them again the next day. I think he just wanted to stick up for Wes so that Wes doesnt get discouraged about Johnnys comments, CT/Wes are doing well atm and loosing faith in themselves right before the final would be bad. I still dont get why Johnny got that angry over that comment, his face looked like he wanted to butcher Wes, definitely struck a nerve.[/QUOTE] Yeah I don't think it was as much that he thought Wes needed him as much as it is how committed CT is to his teammates on these challenges. When you go back to what was said Wes was winning the argument, but the solidarity of CT and Wes seems to be a theme of the season as Wes and Kenny's inability to come together was on the 1st Rivals.
[QUOTE=WesandCT;365729]Yeah I don't think it was as much that he thought Wes needed him as much as it is how committed CT is to his teammates on these challenges. When you go back to what was said Wes was winning the argument, but the solidarity of CT and Wes seems to be a theme of the season as Wes and Kenny's inability to come together was on the 1st Rivals.[/QUOTE] Kenny has a huge ego, same with wes, they didn't put it aside when it came to work together. CT and wes have worked well toegether bc they arent looking who is the best one etc. CT already recognized that wes is a good athlete,unlike kenny who was always saying how bad wes was.
[QUOTE=jojorules;365694]Lexblair u know who will be at live reunion u seem to know the story this season ? My guess is 6 final teams and last 4 people eliminated[/QUOTE] No clue, they are sticking to tapingdate=airdate though... not sure if it's completely live.
Oh man they need knight in the reunion :) and Leroy but doubt it haha
Oh and zachh
Makes me wonder if Cooke offers some physical time with some of the guys. Or do Cooke/Care win this last mission and Aneesa/Diem get last?
[QUOTE=stuufman;365732]Kenny has a huge ego, same with wes, they didn't put it aside when it came to work together. CT and wes have worked well toegether bc they arent looking who is the best one etc. CT already recognized that wes is a good athlete,unlike kenny who was always saying how bad wes was.[/QUOTE] I think Kenny/Wes just came into that thinking they were going to win and if not the alliance would save them so there was no need to comunicate with your teammate and work together. I thought at that time they were secretly friends/cordial off camera, thats out the window now, something happened between them and now its back to hating eachother. But ya they both thought they were so good that they just showed up to the challenge in the same jersey and did the challenge as it was supposed to be done by 1 person and thought that was it. Also these challenges are much better, less easy to DQ and some really needed communication and team work,it was interesting to see how much Wes/CT improved from the 1st log puzzle challenge and the 2nd blindfold puzzle, one was a complete mess while the other was very smooth.
[QUOTE=LexBlair;365692]and can we stop this stupid "hating" thing.... So what, if you do not like the way somebody behaves in a certain situation and you say sth about it then you "hate" on her? TBH, if you cannot constructively look at a situation without your "fan-girling"/"hatred" compromising your way of thinking... well then that's rather sad.[/QUOTE] Constructively look at a situation...I'd applaud your efforts to do that. Let me know when that happens, will ya? I'm the one who calls it " 10 minutes of Diem Hate" so I guess this one's for me. Objectivity is not the first thing I think of when I read some of the comments (mine included) on here and that's fine. We're not conversing about nuclear energy after all; we're talking about things that occur in a reality show. Everyone is offering their opinions; everyone has their favorite(s); and everyone is entitled to their own and to offer defenses or rebuttals to what is previously posted. Fan-girling/hatred? Not sure what that is except more of the same ad hominem nonsense I hate to see. We can all agree to disagree. That's what should make this fun.

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