The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

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[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;364045]So next week the challenge is called Rampage (aka T-Bone from Rivals 1) it looks like CT & Wes win and Knight & Preston come in last. During the challenge it appears the match ups are Knight/Preston vs CT/Wes & Johnny/Frank vs Jordan/Marlon. Obviously CT & Wes win their match and it looks like Jordan & Marlon pull off the win with Johnny saying he can't breath and CT saying he threw up, thus the final match being CT/Wes vs Jordan/Marlon and obviously CT & Wes win. Which leads to the confrontation between CT & Wes vs Johnny with Wes getting into Johnny's face, Johnny pushing Wes, CT then getting into Johnny's face saying "you ain't the same shape you used to be Johnny", "why don't you go throw up again", and "You mad Bro". So my guess is CT & Wes win thus securing their spot in the Final and they try to rally up votes to put Johnny & Frank in the Jungle but it doesn't work for some reason which leads to the fight.[/QUOTE] Or Marlon and Jordan win, then Wes secures the votes against Johnny & Frank. Remember Rivals 1, this scenario played out when LeRoy and Mike won the last challenge. CT and Adam lost and the vote was between Wes/Kenny or Johnny/Tyler. Wes secured the votes and Johnny went. In the trailer you see Johnny going after Wes and CT steps in to defend Wes. In any event, watching Johnny throw a hissy fit because he gets sent in is always entertaining.
[QUOTE=AnneK;364051]Or Marlon and Jordan win, then Wes secures the votes against Johnny & Frank. Remember Rivals 1, this scenario played out when LeRoy and Mike won the last challenge. CT and Adam lost and the vote was between Wes/Kenny or Johnny/Tyler. Wes secured the votes and Johnny went. In the trailer you see Johnny going after Wes and CT steps in to defend Wes. In any event, watching Johnny throw a hissy fit because he gets sent in is always entertaining.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure CT/Wes win because we saw in the trailer that Marlon/Jordan go against Knight/Preston in elimination so either Wes/CT or Johnny/Frank won, it looks like CT/Wes won since Johnny looks like he's in bad shape during the challenge. Wes/CT and Johnny/Frank dont see an elimination this season which kinda sucks but at least they dont go in cause theyre winning challenges, so far Johnny/Frank won 2 and CT/Wes won 2 also (their 3rd was handed to them) so I guess thats not too bad for them being in the finals
[QUOTE=AnneK;364051]Or Marlon and Jordan win, then Wes secures the votes against Johnny & Frank. Remember Rivals 1, this scenario played out when LeRoy and Mike won the last challenge. CT and Adam lost and the vote was between Wes/Kenny or Johnny/Tyler. Wes secured the votes and Johnny went. In the trailer you see Johnny going after Wes and CT steps in to defend Wes. In any event, watching Johnny throw a hissy fit because he gets sent in is always entertaining.[/QUOTE] Jordan/Marlon are seen going up against Knight/Preston in the elimination in one of the previews. CT/Wes or Johnny/Frank win. I would guess CT/Wes since they're up against the easier opponent.
I would of have liked it if knight/preston would of won even if it meant seeing there sorry ***** in the final. So then the remaining teams could be sweating bullets going into a final elimination against a strong team. No one is loosing sleep over going into an elimination against knight/preston.
I don't understand how Johnny's cardio/endurance is worse on this challenge, didn't he train pretty hard for this one? It'll be interesting (and funny) to see how he gasses out on a challenge he's already done before. By the way it looks, he probably holds his team back in the Final as well.
[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;364065]I don't understand how Johnny's cardio/endurance is worse on this challenge, didn't he train pretty hard for this one? It'll be interesting (and funny) to see how he gasses out on a challenge he's already done before. By the way it looks, he probably holds his team back in the Final as well.[/QUOTE] On the next challenge its probably cause he falls down, ppl said he took a hard hit, to me it looks like he's just tired and clumsy. He could hold Frank back simply because he's just not as good as Frank cardio wise because he's a smoker and knowing Frank he will let it be known that Johnny lost it for him. And if you remember rivals 1 Tyler had to wait for Johnny a few times, in the finals Johnny always paces himself and goes steady, while others like Kenny/Wes and Ct/Diem and maybe CT/Wes try to just pummel through it as fast as possible. Now I'm really glad the teams werent Frank/Wes and CT/Johnny, at 1st I thought those teams would be more fair cardio wise, I really wanted Wes or CT to win and **** would that suck if CT lost and Frank won, we would never hear the end of it.
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[QUOTE=Blue123;364073]On the next challenge its probably cause he falls down, ppl said he took a hard hit, to me it looks like he's just tired and clumsy. He could hold Frank back simply because he's just not as good as Frank cardio wise because he's a smoker and knowing Frank he will let it be known that Johnny lost it for him. And if you remember rivals 1 Tyler had to wait for Johnny a few times, in the finals Johnny always paces himself and goes steady, while others like Kenny/Wes and Ct/Diem and maybe CT/Wes try to just pummel through it as fast as possible. Now I'm really glad the teams werent Frank/Wes and CT/Johnny, at 1st I thought those teams would be more fair cardio wise, I really wanted Wes or CT to win and **** would that suck if CT lost and Frank won, we would never hear the end of it.[/QUOTE] I dont think there are any big hits on the half pipe tbone if ct hit preston like that he would probably severly hurt him. Plus ct has no bad blood with preston or knight who it appears they face where he probably really wanted to hurt johnny on rivals 1 and it was an elimination so he was more amped in crazy ct mode... I bet they made this challenge in hopes of something similar though.. If ct and wes win next challenge that would be three wins 2 earned thats the most for the guys i think
C.t. And Wes made a smart move to go against knight and Preston next challenge
The only thing that's bothering me about this season is the lack of character development & lack of communication shown between cast members as opposed to the first season of Rivals. The current format of this show has followed the same sort of formula for the past few episodes where the first 4-5 minutes are dedicated to foreshadowing the voting process, the next 20-25 minutes are the Challenge, the next 5-7 is deliberation, and then the last 15 is the preparation for the Jungle & the Jungle itself. This format of the show doesn't allow us to really dive into relationships & alliances and overall discussions that we'd get in the first Rivals. If more of those scenes were added, I think it could create a lot more compelling television than the episode just being solely based on The Challenge for the day.
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As much as marlon tweets about being a linebacker and a ****** and a never give up dude when things get hard he quits and he cant take people guving him direction so i bet he is there downfall in the final bc jordan wont quit
[QUOTE=jojorules;364261]As much as marlon tweets about being a linebacker and a ****** never give up dude when things get hard he quits and he cant take people guving him direction so i bet he is there downfall in the final bc jordan wont quit[/QUOTE] He is their downfall because he is a heavy smoker.
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[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;364262]He is their downfall because he is a heavy smoker.[/QUOTE] Yes but if he played football he should be able to push through but how quick did he quit last challenge as soon as it was hard that is my point
[QUOTE=jojorules;364263]Yes but if he played football he should be able to push through but how quick did he quit last challenge as soon as it was hard[/QUOTE] He probably quit because he knew they weren't going to win and because it was a girls day.
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[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;364264]He probably quit because he knew they weren't going to win and because it was a girls day.[/QUOTE] It seemed to me he hates being told what to do he was same in his season ... We will see if final is a short race than guving up should not happen
[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;364262]He is their downfall because he is a heavy smoker.[/QUOTE] So flipping what? What does his personal habits have to do with the price of tea in China?
[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;364045]So next week the challenge is called Rampage (aka T-Bone from Rivals 1) it looks like CT & Wes win and Knight & Preston come in last. During the challenge it appears the match ups are Knight/Preston vs CT/Wes & Johnny/Frank vs Jordan/Marlon. Obviously CT & Wes win their match and it looks like Jordan & Marlon pull off the win with Johnny saying he can't breath and CT saying he threw up, thus the final match being CT/Wes vs Jordan/Marlon and obviously CT & Wes win. Which leads to the confrontation between CT & Wes vs Johnny with Wes getting into Johnny's face, Johnny pushing Wes, CT then getting into Johnny's face saying "you ain't the same shape you used to be Johnny", "why don't you go throw up again", and "You mad Bro". So my guess is CT & Wes win thus securing their spot in the Final and they try to rally up votes to put Johnny & Frank in the Jungle but it doesn't work for some reason which leads to the fight.[/QUOTE] What in the world is up with this obvious nonsense?
[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;364045]So next week the challenge is called Rampage (aka T-Bone from Rivals 1) it looks like CT & Wes win and Knight & Preston come in last. During the challenge it appears the match ups are Knight/Preston vs CT/Wes & Johnny/Frank vs Jordan/Marlon. Obviously CT & Wes win their match and it looks like Jordan & Marlon pull off the win with Johnny saying he can't breath and CT saying he threw up, thus the final match being CT/Wes vs Jordan/Marlon and obviously CT & Wes win. Which leads to the confrontation between CT & Wes vs Johnny with Wes getting into Johnny's face, Johnny pushing Wes, CT then getting into Johnny's face saying "you ain't the same shape you used to be Johnny", "why don't you go throw up again", and "You mad Bro". So my guess is CT & Wes win thus securing their spot in the Final and they try to rally up votes to put Johnny & Frank in the Jungle but it doesn't work for some reason which leads to the fight.[/QUOTE] Yeah I assume this would be the moment where Wes would finally try and pull the trigger on sending Johnny and Frank in, most likely it would be Paula and Emily who would pass the word to Johnny and that's when the bickering begins. I mean clearly this plan does not follow through and all I can think of is that Diem despite being CT and Wes's number 1 does not follow through with the plan because Cooke and Cara would be a for sure vote (in my opinion) against Johnny and Frank, and while Camilla and Emily's teams will have Bananas back if Diem would vote against him that would lead to a 2-2 tie. I would imagine the tie breaker would either go to the guy's winner or the guys in general which in any case would seem like a slam dunk that bananas and frank would go in. (assuming Wes and CT won the challenge that day) Regardless I believe there is much more politics in the upcoming episode than just Wes and CT trying to get Johnny thrown in. :devilish:
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;364324]So flipping what? What does his personal habits have to do with the price of tea in China?[/QUOTE] Smoking causes you to have less lung capacity, even when you don't have a cigarette in your mouth. Less lung capacity means less endurance, simply because you can't breath. Trust me, it's my only regret in life. I've been a heavy smoker for 4 years. I'm only 21 and I can't run a mile without walking. Also, it causes lung cancer... I'm not even sure what the conversation was about. Just telling you how smoking makes somebody a liability in an extremely physical game.
Not sure where else to post this question. Also, this is not to be rude I am just fairly new to this cool challenge forum. My question is, for people who have been here a while, How accurate are Molds13's spoilers? Winners usually correct? Thanks.
[QUOTE=erik2690;364347]Not sure where else to post this question. Also, this is not to be rude I am just fairly new to this cool challenge forum. My question is, for people who have been here a while, How accurate are Molds13's spoilers? Winners usually correct? Thanks.[/QUOTE] molds is always correct.
[QUOTE=erik2690;364347]Not sure where else to post this question. Also, this is not to be rude I am just fairly new to this cool challenge forum. My question is, for people who have been here a while, How accurate are Molds13's spoilers? Winners usually correct? Thanks.[/QUOTE] Very accurate! Molds is the best :)
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;364324]So flipping what? What does his personal habits have to do with the price of tea in China?[/QUOTE] Um...what? If Marlon smokes as much as Jordan says he does his "personal habits" have a lot to do with the game. Jordan says Marlon has no cardio...which is a combination of not running as much as he should've and, you guessed it, smoking! Look at this last challenge...Frank and Jordan have said that Marlon in terms of pure strength was one of the strongest guys there, so why couldn't he pull himself out of a rip current that every other guy there aside from Preston made it out of? He didn't have the stamina to keep his insane strength going...probably SOMEWHAT related to polluting his lungs...
[QUOTE=JL81790;364367]Um...what? If Marlon smokes as much as Jordan says he does his "personal habits" have a lot to do with the game. Jordan says Marlon has no cardio...which is a combination of not running as much as he should've and, you guessed it, smoking! Look at this last challenge...Frank and Jordan have said that Marlon in terms of pure strength was one of the strongest guys there, so why couldn't he pull himself out of a rip current that every other guy there aside from Preston made it out of? He didn't have the stamina to keep his insane strength going...probably SOMEWHAT related to polluting his lungs...[/QUOTE] Although I agree his stamina probably sucks, the current apparently went away when the last teams went. I dont know what Johnny's problem was though, Frank got threw it just fine, maybe there was still a bit of current when they went (nvm just rewatched them go, Johnny is just a ****** swimmer) CT/Wes had no problem at all and they were like 2nd last. Maybe the current was real bad or maybe Marlon could have just given up cause it was a girls day, I hope they get penalized though. Preston and Marlon just quit for no good reason, its not like this challenge was embarrassing or degrading
The Afterbuzz from when Frank was on and Jordan called in was so bad as far as spoilers go. I mean we all know who wins, but to the people who watch the interviews of the cast members but don't read spoilers definitely had it ruined. So Jordan talks about Marlon's lack of endurance which would give away they win next elimination round, but do not do well in the final. He a few seconds later talks about Johnny not being the same physically as he was in previous years...then goes on to talk about how him and Frank are great athletes, but having the best endurance does not mean anything in a final if your partner does not have the stamina, and that 3rd and 4th best would likely win a final. I thought the other cast members handled themselves pretty well in their interviews, but there should have been a gag order put on Jordan as soon as he flew in to LA.
P.S. The most recent Afterbuzz was much better with Nehemiah and Trey because two of Wes's friends being there seemed to detract Roxy from doing her usual I hate Wes rant.
Roxy and nicolette (I think that's her name) are so mean! They talk so much trash about certain members
I wonder if this week will be a TBC. It's the last guy day but they usually save those for eliminations that are either hyped up/intense (T-Bone, Johnny Backpack, Evelyn/Landon) or something crazy happens (Big Easy/Camila), and I'm pretty sure given the game that Marlon and Jordan are going to annihilate Knight and Preston, so waiting an extra week for that seems dumb. I can see them using it for Diem/Aneesa/Camila/Jemmye, but to wait an extra week to see a non-factor team get rocked is a bit pointless.
[QUOTE=TheCloser;364705]Roxy and nicolette (I think that's her name) are so mean! They talk so much trash about certain members[/QUOTE] I dont like that Roxy chick, she has no idea what she's talking about half the time and definitely hates on certain cast members (which is fine but at least act like you watched the show). Some times she tries to make a point but she mixes ppl up, making her look stupid and her opinion also look stupid one time she tried to hate on Wes by saying Mandi got payback on FM2 exile by making Wes look like he gassed out and that was payback for the way he treated her in exiles (she mixed up Casey with Mandi, how the F could that happen since FM1 was like years ago) therefore making her point pointless, another time she said the Theresa thing with Diem was all because of the rap Diem made about her and CT, once again face palm. Its annoying hearing commentary from a person that isnt paying attention to the show, and you can tell the guests on were like *** is she talking about? But stayed quiet about it
Yeah you are completely right about Roxy not paying attention and basically watching for only the stuff she wants to see based off of her bias. I do not have any interest in watching people like her or Kenny who just come on these shows to talk trash. I want to watch people like Mark Long who know how to objectively watch an episode and then give their thoughts.
I think nicolette is worse than roxy.. yall see she havent been on afterbuzz in like 3 weeks

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