The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

LOL even if the NOLA kids may be trashy, Frank is the biggest hypocrite for somehow not liking these kids now when they're not allies? It's kind of telling when Camila is the sanest person in the preview.

Frank was aligned with them and now he hates them and loves the vets, I DO NOT GET HIM.

[QUOTE=Blue123;362442]So the finalist are going to the VMAs tomorrow? A bunch of them are tweeting about it, I wonder of CT is going, he keeps instagramming pics of vegas, I dont think Ive seen someone that partys as much as him. And the **** show is this weekend too?[/QUOTE] I don't think Jemmye is going either ,she said she is in NY till Friday,she filmed the **** show ,Camila,Diem and Cara i think all said that they are going,so maybe just Jemmye couldn't make it

[QUOTE=goodgirl;362501]I don't think Jemmye is going either ,she said she is in NY till Friday,she filmed the **** show ,Camila,Diem and Cara i think all said that they are going,so maybe just Jemmye couldn't make it[/QUOTE] Ppl going to the VMAs: Preston, Knight, Jordan, Johnny, Wes, Emily, Camila, Aneesa, Diem, Paula, Cara Maria

[QUOTE=LexBlair;362508]Ppl going to the VMAs: Preston, Knight, Jordan, Johnny, Wes, Emily, Camila, Aneesa, Diem, Paula, Cara Maria[/QUOTE] Poor Cara. At least Diem & Camila's there.

[QUOTE=Meelz;362528]Poor Cara. At least Diem & Camila's there.[/QUOTE] Poor Cara? Really?

[QUOTE=LexBlair;362508]Ppl going to the VMAs: Preston, Knight, Jordan, Johnny, Wes, Emily, Camila, Aneesa, Diem, Paula, Cara Maria[/QUOTE] Do you know if only these people were invited or everybody at this point still in the game were but only these could make it?

[QUOTE=goodgirl;362535]Do you know if only these people were invited or everybody at this point still in the game were but only these could make it?[/QUOTE] Oddly enough, I remember Derek Chavez tweeting about getting an invitation as well and he just took an Instagram photo saying he was "VMA ready".

[QUOTE=GivingTree;362536]Oddly enough, I remember Derek Chavez tweeting about getting an invitation as well and he just took an Instagram photo saying he was "VMA ready".[/QUOTE] Thats odd, I thought only the finalist were allowed to go, on bots and rivals 1 it was the finalist only. **** on rivals 1 only 3 of them went, Ev. Johnny and Tyler so I thought it was winners only, but I think flights were cancelled in 2011 due to bad weather so paula/Kenny didnt go, and Wes didnt go for some reason. I remember Ev tried to bring Cara as her date but MTV said no, but I guess theyre allowing half the cast to go this time

[QUOTE=Meelz;362528]Poor Cara. At least Diem & Camila's there.[/QUOTE] She'll get along with Wes, possibly Paula depending on if anything else happened this season

I don't think she likes Paula

Finally I have found a place to discuss The Challenge! I have a lot of reading to do. I have some questions and thoughts. --Why does everyone hate Cara Maria so much? I haven't watched all of her seasons, but most of them, and I just can't figure it out. I think she's so so pretty. And her arms- ****! --Anyone watch TRW: Portland? Usually I take a woman's side in an arguement with a man by default (if it's hard to discern who's really in the wrong), but Anastasia just seems like a horrible person and most of those feelings stem from her behavior in Portland. She hated Jess for absolutely no reason. Just because you find someone annoying is no excuse for being downright vicious. There was no explanation! What's worse, though, is that after the season she tweeted that MTV hadn't shown that her boyfriend at the time had had a drug problem and that's why she'd been so upset when he visited. First of all, that is not her business to share. Second of all, the entire time he was visiting, she was wasted off her ***! If your boyfriend really had a drug problem, then why the **** would you take him out to bars and get ****faced with him? So when all that **** went down with CT it was really, really hard to take her side. Not to mention slapping him was definitely crossing a line. And she's always talking about her extraordinary intelligence but her Twitter is a vapid mess. Sorry for the rant!! She's just like one of my most despised Challenge peeps ever. --Frank is so awful that he MUST just be trolling for camera time. Either that or he has a severe personality disorder. --I was kind of skimming some pages earlier and noticed a lot of people defending Trey! Don't! He's a *******! He seems fine on The Challenge but his Real World season showed his true colors. He also tweets **** like "Women shouldn't swear, they should know their place." Sorry for this random post lol! I like this season, especially knowing who wins.

People hate cara because she is different and a good competitor

No, people dont like Cara because she is annoying and always playing victim.

Cara is a great girl don't get me wrong, but as a competitor? She is as average as they come.

[QUOTE=TheCloser;362621]Cara is a great girl don't get me wrong, but as a competitor? She is as average as they come.[/QUOTE] Cara is Ripped,she could beat any of the girls in a physical elim

[QUOTE=Snake19;362624]Cara is Ripped,she could beat any of the girls in a physical elim[/QUOTE] That's a joke, right?.... I can think of at least a handful of girls on this challenge who would eat her alive in a physical elimination round... Seriously... Why do ppl feel the need to [B]overcompensate[/B] for certain ppl who they feel are being unfairly "hated"(whenever something negative is said about them....)

[QUOTE=Snake19;362624]Cara is Ripped,she could beat any of the girls in a physical elim[/QUOTE] I'm guessing you forgot how she lost on exes?

[QUOTE=goodgirl;362535]Do you know if only these people were invited or everybody at this point still in the game were but only these could make it?[/QUOTE] Usually, there are a certain number of tickets assigned to the RW/Challenge cast members every year.... The number of these depends on a bunch of factors unrelated to the show(vacancy, etc.) These tickets get handed out by production... I heard there where 16 available this time around(and considering the format) they were handed to the top4 of each gender.... Considering certain ppl are not interested to begin with or drop out before the event, MTV can choose to offer the free slots to other individuals...) The list above was the updated list from yesterday morning.... Some of the ppl above have a packed schedule for the weekend though and it is therefore possible that they won't make it... Also, to my knowledge not ALL ppl are gonna walk the carpet(some of them are just seats)

[QUOTE=Debut Album;362632]Paula does the same thing you know.[/QUOTE] you can't even compare it.... The way she acts on Twitter whenever a new episode airs is really what ticked a lot of ppl off this time around.... She keeps re-tweeting things which all pretty much say that she is perfect and all the other ppl are mean and ugly and jealous and that she deserves sooo much better... So basically running away with the whole she-is-being-"hated"-on-the-challenge thing, when it was not the case at all... ppl hang out with her, stuck up for her, and consoled her when times where rough, she was definitely not treated as a poor outsider... and understandably some/most ppl are irritated/hurt by this... But again, this is a reoccurring theme with her...

The difference between Paula and Cara Maria is that Paula can dish it but can't take it and Cara Maria cant dish it nor take it.

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;362571]She'll get along with Wes, possibly Paula depending on if anything else happened this season[/QUOTE] In Rivals 1 those two people were least likely for her to get along (Wes spilling Coke on her white dress & Paula laughing). I'm pretty sure Wes still feels the same and Paula already has stated that she finds Cara annoying.

[QUOTE=hannamez8;362638]In Rivals 1 those two people were least likely for her to get along (Wes spilling Coke on her white dress & Paula laughing). I'm pretty sure Wes still feels the same and Paula already has stated that she finds Cara annoying.[/QUOTE] She is annoying. I find many people annoying, but it doesn't mean I don't like them.

[QUOTE=LexBlair;362627]That's a joke, right?.... I can think of at least a handful of girls on this challenge who would eat her alive in a physical elimination round... Seriously... Why do ppl feel the need to [B]overcompensate[/B] for certain ppl who they feel are being unfairly "hated"(whenever something negative is said about them....)[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=TheCloser;362628]I'm guessing you forgot how she lost on exes?[/QUOTE] I didn't mean to include Emily but she's kind of in her own class now on the girls side..I would consider her stronger than every other girl on Rivals 2 except Aneesa..Please tell me which girl(s) aside from Aneesa/Emily could put her in some kind of physical elim? I mean there's what? 15 girls? At most a couple can compete with her physically so somehow she's weak? That's just coming from a personal dislike of her then because I see her physique and don't think she underperforms or is terrible like she's being made out

I'd say Cooke and Camilla and Sarah along with Aneesa and emily could beat cara, Paula and nany are maybe And maybe Diem, who beat Jenn in a duel that she won at twice but cara lost to Marie in the oil wrestling and Camilla beat Marie, that right there proves Camilla could beat cara

[QUOTE=Snake19;362644]I didn't mean to include Emily but she's kind of in her own class now on the girls side..I would consider her stronger than every other girl on Rivals 2 except Aneesa..Please tell me which girl(s) aside from Aneesa/Emily could put her in some kind of physical elim? I mean there's what? 15 girls? At most a couple can compete with her physically so somehow she's weak? That's just coming from a personal dislike of her then because I see her physique and don't think she underperforms or is terrible like she's being made out[/QUOTE] Emily, Camila, Sarah, Aneesa spring to mind.. and you could make an argument for several others(Cooke, Jonna, Nany, Paula...etc..) and again nobody said she is terrible, other than you.... like I said you are overcompensating

[QUOTE=LexBlair;362657]Emily, Camila, Sarah, Aneesa spring to mind.. and you could make an argument for several others(Cooke, Jonna, Nany, Paula...etc..) and again nobody said she is terrible, other than you.... like I said you are overcompensating[/QUOTE] Let's be serious jonna is not beating anyone in anything physical except for maybe jasmine. But i would take emily, anessa, camila, and cooke over cara, the rest could go either way.