The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

[QUOTE=V1man;347463]I suppose that depends upon what one thinks about South Philly strippers.[/QUOTE] I'm just looking at Challenge history. BTW folks, the trailer thread is here: [url]http://vevmo.com/f280/the-challenge-rivals-ii-trailer-7855/index3.html[/url]

[QUOTE=V1man;347453]Portland v. Rivals 2? The situations are no where near to being analogous, but I understand you might right that. I think you will change you mind after about episode 2 or 3. This is not a spoiler thread, so I can't tell you why, other than there were situations designed by production specifically to create the kind of physical drama you are seeing in the trailer. 90% of this stuff goes nowhere, but the motivation behind each of the [B]confrontations is genuine and actually helps advance the story line[/B]. As I've said to some people privately before, you are going to see some unexpected twists this season. Hell, it might even be a fun season for fans.[/QUOTE] Physically fighting? I don't know but at least two people said in the trailer something like "Everbody will do anything to get votes!" Maybe one of the twists were getting votes?

AHhh the trailer looks amazing! And lol at Aneesa getting into it! lover her! And where is Cara Maria or Cooke?? or Wes??? I think I saw a little bit of Wes, one shot of Cooke and none of Cara, but maybe they don't want to reveal that shes in the challenge yet. ALso that eliminations looks interesting, but lets see what the rules are lol. Emily looks ******. The drama looks awesome.

Cara has one shot by herself with the ocean as a backdrop but that's it. Wes is hardly in it except when he and CT are in an elimination and shouting down Bananas.

[QUOTE=Desertpuma;347475]Cara has one shot by herself with the ocean as a backdrop but that's it. Wes is hardly in it except when he and CT are in an elimination and shouting down Bananas.[/QUOTE] they're in an elimination? i didn't notice.

[QUOTE=JohnPhoenix;347472]AHhh the trailer looks amazing! And lol at Aneesa getting into it! lover her! And where is Cara Maria or Cooke?? or Wes??? I think I saw a little bit of Wes, one shot of Cooke and none of Cara, but maybe they don't want to reveal that shes in the challenge yet. ALso that eliminations looks interesting, but lets see what the rules are lol. Emily looks ******. The drama looks awesome.[/QUOTE] [ATTACH]2115[/ATTACH] BTW: Looks like we're analysing/finding spoilers again as a whole team like before the challenge! Which is great!

[QUOTE=Desertpuma;347475]Cara has one shot by herself with the ocean as a backdrop but that's it. Wes is hardly in it except when he and CT are in an elimination and shouting down Bananas.[/QUOTE]Where is this?

So Aneesa was the one calling Trishelle, Trashelle? Finally somebody realizes it, no offense.

Damn Diem looks awful with that colored hair, lol.

[QUOTE=Nostalgic;347495]Damn Diem looks awful with that colored hair, lol.[/QUOTE] Hopefully she will explain the wig thing when the interviews start -- assuming she agrees to do another with vevmo. We've asked her.

[QUOTE=V1man;347505]Hopefully she will explain the wig thing when the interviews start -- assuming she agrees to do another with vevmo. We've asked her.[/QUOTE] I hope she does, because Diem is quickly becoming my girl to root for. She is getting to be real good. Plus her last interview was amazing.

[QUOTE=Snake19;347493]Where is this?[/QUOTE] I don't know about the elimination but I think he was talking about this. [ATTACH]2118[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH]2119[/ATTACH] Can't be the only one who thinks that he's talking about CT!

[QUOTE=GDInstall;347535] Can't be the only one who thinks that he's talking about CT![/QUOTE] That's what i thought too, like does Frank actually hit ct? i mean how many "old" vets are their, besides johnny/ct who he could be referring to?

[QUOTE=jojorules;347536]That's what i thought too, like does Frank actually hit ct? i mean how many "old" vets are their, besides johnny/ct who he could be referring to?[/QUOTE] But if he's talking about CT. He must forgot that he's a fan fav and definitely not an "old ****"

[QUOTE=GDInstall;347540]But if he's talking about CT. He must forgot that he's a fan fav and definitely not an "old ****"[/QUOTE] Well he could be talking about a vet female that he hates, but that with him apologizing for violence, makes me think he actually threw a punch or hit someone this time. Not sure how the fighting rules went if they went out the door or what. But he never apologizes for instigating on other seasons. He tried to get Alton to hit him, i am sure he treid the same wth CT. But maybe he knew CT figured he can't fight back or be banned, i duno. But i thought same thing as you basically is my point :) I thought he meant Zach because Zach fights too, but he isn't old at all. Clearly Zach/frank are not on good terms though

Since when can a 25 year old refer to someone who's 30 as an "old ****?"

Doesn't look like Ana and CT are on bad terms, by the way. He has tweeted @ her, regarding the slap, joking about it.

Frank has to be talking about CT saying "he's not that tough" is obvs because of his rep and the only person Frank touches is CT

CT and Ana put the trailer slap into perspective on twitter. Some of you asked me privately about "Bird" hitting CT. Now you know. [ATTACH]2121[/ATTACH]

lol at "not that tough." There is literally not a single area(now that we know he loses in endurance as well) where Frank is better than CT physically. Hell, Wes hasn't worked out in 2 years and looks like a starving teenager but is still superior to Frank physically.

Or he means Wes, gotta be one of the two. By old he may mean been on challenge forever, and they are probably one of the two older guys there if not the two oldest....He does hate Wes.

[QUOTE=jojorules;347555]Or he means Wes, gotta be one of the two. By old he may mean been on challenge forever, and they are probably one of the two older guys there if not the two oldest....He does hate Wes.[/QUOTE] I can't stand Wes but calling him old is just stupid

[QUOTE=Debut Album;347557]There's one area that Frank is better than CT in...Winning Challenges.[/QUOTE] Actually, they are tied now

Yeah and that definitely means Frank and Zach are not on good terms, seeing how Zach tweets CT and Wes.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;347558]I can't stand Wes but calling him old is just stupid[/QUOTE] I agree, but he may mean like in a challenge sense like he has done a ton of them. But I have no clue ....CT seems like the logical choice but he had some pretty harsh words and i dont think he has the guts to say that about CT. But he isn't following CT or Wes, but is almost everyone else. I am not big on twitter i dont really see the point i can read it without joining, but that's me. Pure speculation by me, but i feel he tried to get CT kicked off like he did with Alton, and it didn't work so he thinks he got CT to back down. He prob got in Wes's face he hates Wes. The violence tweet prob was attacking ct and zach. Not that i really care what Frank thinks, but i found those tweets very interesting and he is acting like he punks someone.

Not sure if anyone saw that the site is up if you type in rivals.mtv.com but um... "Aneesa and Diem's rivalry was born on The Duel, when Aneesa chose Diem to go into elimination after promising to keep her safe. Diem ended up going home and giving Aneesa the silent treatment. Diem recalls, "It's been a long time, but once someone makes you not trust them, it's hard to regain that." Since we last saw Diem in the finals of Battle of the Exes, she successfully beat ovarian cancer a second time and is now in remission. But despite her fighting spirit, [B]Diem still struggles with confidence and reverts to old patterns when she hooks up with former flame CT![/B] Aneesa is skeptical of her romantic reunion, explaining, "Anyone who messes with CT is playing with fire. Emotionally, she could be setting herself up for failure." Diem may seem angelic, but this shrewd veteran has a tilted halo...and a devil on her shoulder."

for future references, teams + jersey color The ones I am certain about: (Feel free to make additions) __________________________________________ [COLOR="#0066cc"]Blue:[/COLOR] + Paula/Emily [COLOR="#00FF00"]Bright Green:[/COLOR] Preston/Knight + Camila/Jemmye [COLOR="#006400"]Dark Green:[/COLOR] Zach/Trey [COLOR="#4B0082"]Purple:[/COLOR] Dunbar/Tyrie + Diem/Aneesa [COLOR="#FFFF00"]Yellow:[/COLOR] Rob/Derek + [COLOR="#808080"]Grey:[/COLOR]CT/Wes + [COLOR="#FF0000"]Red:[/COLOR]Ty/Leroy + Cooke/Cara Maria(Naomi) There is some serious color changing going on though or 2 teams wore the same colour.. It seems as both [B]Jordan/Marlon + Frank/Johnny[/B] wore blue at some point.... But Frank also wore purple... [ATTACH]2122[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]2123[/ATTACH] Weird... _______________________________ ALso, pretty sure Trishelle and Sarah were eliminated AFTER Jess/Ana.. you can see them very clearly watching a female elimination round....mark 1:05-1:06.. and up-close at 0:30 Plus you can also see CM standing beside Trishelle, so I presume she replaced Naomi after the 1st challenge but before the 1st elimination round(see: Mike-Rivals 1)

[QUOTE=JL81790;347564]Not sure if anyone saw that the site is up if you type in rivals.mtv.com but um... "Aneesa and Diem's rivalry was born on The Duel, when Aneesa chose Diem to go into elimination after promising to keep her safe. Diem ended up going home and giving Aneesa the silent treatment. Diem recalls, "It's been a long time, but once someone makes you not trust them, it's hard to regain that." Since we last saw Diem in the finals of Battle of the Exes, she successfully beat ovarian cancer a second time and is now in remission. But despite her fighting spirit, [B]Diem still struggles with confidence and reverts to old patterns when she hooks up with former flame CT![/B] Aneesa is skeptical of her romantic reunion, explaining, "Anyone who messes with CT is playing with fire. Emotionally, she could be setting herself up for failure." Diem may seem angelic, but this shrewd veteran has a tilted halo...and a devil on her shoulder."[/QUOTE] If that is CT in the hat with Nany, uh oh. Wonder if that is before or after the Diem thing. But is their even an official rivals2 page i can't find it on mtv...i know we can't post links so jsut a yes will do and i will look again :) I am not so sure i believe that they hooked up. That would DEFINATELY be in the trailer to draw viewers and all the people hoping they will get back together...SO maybe it will be edited soon or something?