The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

[QUOTE=thisismyuser;344383]So are you saying CT/Wes won then? Why did you delete your post?[/QUOTE] Sorry, I guess I'm not supposed to ask questions like that but I don't understand why somebody would make a post just to delete it right after?

[QUOTE=TheRealest;344250]It was a joke/barb. For a discussion about a lowbrow reality tv show, this board seems to take on an oddly condescending tone most of the time. It's fun, lighten up! :)[/QUOTE] "ThRealest" fits you.

I love these diversions. They will probably keep us entertained until July.

I still think Johnny/Frank won because of that picture. That seemed like such an obvious hint. Especially with the caption.

[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;344392]I still think Johnny/Frank won because of that picture. That seemed like such an obvious hint. Especially with the caption.[/QUOTE] And it continues... :indecisiveness:

Picture metaphor just went wooooooosh over your head bro.

[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;344392]I still think Johnny/Frank won because of that picture. That seemed like such an obvious hint. Especially with the caption.[/QUOTE] I dont think anyone is saying differently, therealest said CT/Wes might have been in 4 elimination rounds then townie said or didnt say their work was paid, I'm gona guess they made money off elimination wins, townie you did say "I'm not saying they won" right? lol

Hmm you could be onto something...they at the Challenge like to make things interesting, remember? These people go on to compete for money...so technically you'd have to say the people who came back with the most "won", right?

Maybe they felt they had to spice things up as far as politics, scheming, and alliances by making the elimination rounds a little more enticing to take part in.

[QUOTE=townie;344404]Hmm you could be onto something...they at the Challenge like to make things interesting, remember? These people go on to compete for money...so technically you'd have to say the people who came back with the most "won", right?[/QUOTE] I never consider Johnny a "winner" for a similar reason, if he manned up and went into an elim against someone he was afraid of hed be a champion, but nuzzling his alliances bosom and hiding every season isn't impressive, CT isn't afraid of going in against anyone. Hypothetically if Duel 3 happened and Zach called out Johnny wed have an entire episode of him crying that his alliance didn't save him, CT would accept it and probably win Edit: if CT/Wes end up with more money I hope TJ says it at the end

Ha Zach's a candy ***, don't give him too much credit.

I just think because he's big Johnny would avoid him. I wouldn't be surprised if CT whomps him in an elim this season or in the future. I'm pretty sure Johnny and Frank would cry even if they had to go against a girl Rivals teams because they'd have to go to the final with a potential broken nail ;)

It could be ruins meets Fresh meat 1. I guess CT/Wes can be happy that they were paired with each other, I dont think Frank is as strong as CT and if CT was with Johnny he may win the whole thing but he probably wont go into elimination and wont make as much money and CT/Wes are not runners but theyre good at eliminations

Townie should tell more riddles. I find the wild speculation to be entertaining.

CT throws around warm-up weights heavier than Frank

If thats the case and they have team bank accts similar to rivals that would be sick and BMP would have hit it out of the park with this one. If thats the case I could totally see CT and Wes wiinning a lot of missions of about 2500 bucks and when the dont they steal the other teams bank account in the elimination.

[QUOTE=Blue123;344403]I dont think anyone is saying differently, therealest said CT/Wes might have been in 4 elimination rounds then townie said or didnt say their work was paid, I'm gona guess they made money off elimination wins, townie you did say "I'm not saying they won" right? lol[/QUOTE] I think it's fairly obvious that they went into multiple eliminations. Johnny/Frank would see CT as a threat and throw them in every chance they get. And Wes has never been on a challenge where he doesn't go into an elimination.

V1 has an understandable issue with 2/3rds of JEK and I'm in agreement. They proved they were not men on Ruins and that's all I will say on here.

I have some questions. If CT/Wes win a couple of elims won't they be the #1 and #2 in elimination wins? Also has any team who didn't win the final ever go home with more money than the winner? If this is a first they should be "considered" the champions of the season imo

[QUOTE=Snake19;344422]I have some questions. If CT/Wes win a couple of elims won't they be the #1 and #2 in elimination wins? Also has any team who didn't win the final ever go home with more money than the winner? If this is a first they should be "considered" the champions of the season imo[/QUOTE] I would find it hard to believe they made more than the winner, did the winners of rivals 1 get 100k each? I think on ruins they gave the winner of the elimination 2k or whatever the eliminated person won from challenges. So I see it max being 10k, unless there was some weird rule where everyone gets something like 5k every week so then that would grow exponentially and they can keep it if they make it to the final or did rivals 1 get only 50k? then ya I can see them making more than 50k if its like I described

I never heard of someone making more money from the pot than the final winner. But I like when they have a pot because I like to see people who make it to the end make some kind of money. Well I don't know what to make of these hints, but I would be so happy if CT and Wes won instead of Johnny and Frank. In fact, I would love if Marlon and Jordan got second place and Frank and Johnny came in third. It's about time CT won! End the curse! I don't care who wins out of the girls since my favorite female team Jonna/Nany didn't make it to the finals.

[QUOTE=Camille;344426]I never heard of someone making more money from the pot than the final winner. But I like when they have a pot because I like to see people who make it to the end make some kind of money. [/QUOTE] Looking back, it could have happened, on ruins if Ev stayed and threw challenges, she would get sent in every time and if she kept winning every elimination win would earn more than the last cause everyone's bank increases every week from winning the daily challenge so ya omg that would be alot of money at the end, not sure how theyre doing this one cause theres only 5 eliminations, maybe the winner of the challenge is still not safe, like on ruins then they can make a lot of money if they won a few challenges and also get money from eliminated players. This whole bank account concept is really good, hope its true edit: actually no on ruins winner team chooses who goes in so strong ppl wont go in, anyways dont know that concept will work with rivals but should be interesting

I don't think a "bank account" is how a majority of the money would be made, it might help but what if the elim winners get 5-10k per elim. In the Duel the winner got prizes, in Rivals 2 they can get cash. Nothing would make me happier than Johnny/Frank winning the Final but then TJ says "But the team with the most money is CT/Wes" even if that doesn't make them the "winners" it will give CT/Wes more respect over Johnny/Frank as usual. Solidifying CT/Wes as legends of the challenge and Johnny/Frank as weak guys who play a strong social game

[QUOTE=Snake19;344438]I don't think a "bank account" is how a majority of the money would be made, it might help but what if the elim winners get 5-10k per elim. In the Duel the winner got prizes, in Rivals 2 they can get cash. Nothing would make me happier than Johnny/Frank winning the Final but then TJ says "But the team with the most money is CT/Wes" even if that doesn't make them the "winners" it will give CT/Wes more respect over Johnny/Frank as usual. [B]Solidifying CT/Wes as legends of the challenge and Johnny/Frank as weak guys who play a strong social game[/B][/QUOTE] That's BS. Sorry, I really am not a fan of Frank/Johnny possible winning again but one should at least respect them for the well-rounded competitors they are.... Fact is your social game is not gonna help you in a final, yet Johnny won 5 out of his 6 finals.

[QUOTE=LexBlair;344439]That's BS. Sorry, I really am not a fan of Frank/Johnny possible winning again but one should at least respect them for the well-rounded competitors they are....[/QUOTE] I have more respect for Johnny than Frank. Partially this comes from the fact that he is genuinely there to have fun, play pranks and have a good time when it is not game on. Frank, on the other hand, prefers to go after people to belittle them as evidenced by BOTSeasons 2. He may have changed but we won't know until we watch.

Johnny's won The Island, The Ruins, Rivals 1, and Battle of the Exes...where are you getting this mystery #5 from?

[QUOTE=townie;344441]Johnny's won The Island, The Ruins, Rivals 1, and Battle of the Exes...where are you getting this mystery #5 from?[/QUOTE] 'Kay, I give you that... 4 out of his 5 finals...;)

[QUOTE=townie;344441]Johnny's won The Island, The Ruins, Rivals 1, and Battle of the Exes...where are you getting this mystery #5 from?[/QUOTE] Quit messing with our heads, he won rivals 2 duhh. Its already been unofficially confirmed, or Marlon/Jordan won it, then wow what a season

How do you figure Marlon & Jordan won? I never said Chris & Wes didn't win the final either. What I said was that without saying that they won, they came home with the most money. This speculative hocus pocus since then is all on you guys.

[QUOTE=Blue123;344445]Quit messing with our heads, he won rivals 2 duhh. Its already been unofficially confirmed, or Marlon/Jordan won it, then wow what a season[/QUOTE] If CT/Wes made more money would Johnny/Frank really have won? Typically the winner of the final has the most money, this could be the first time that doesn't happen. I mean if the Rookies "won" Giii then counting CT/Wes as the winners is a lot more palatable. Also idk how anyone would think CT/Wes aren't better than Johnny/Frank...especiallythe expanded view of the challenges CT is probably one of (if not the best) daily challenge players and Wes is one of the best in elims. I think Johnny naps during the daily challenges and elims. When I think of CT and Wes there are awesome moments, when I think of Johnny there's him being a backpack, him crying on Ruins about going against Dunbar, and whining on Duel1/Giii about going into an elim, he can win 50 finals but I don't think anyone cares