[QUOTE=TheCloser;342752]Ya beth was on the bad*** team for Inferno 2 and Susie was on the good guys team on Inferno 3. So I don't see a problem there?[/QUOTE]
You prove my point. Most fans are generally clueless about who these people really are. Susie laughs at being called "good," and Beth cringes at the "bad" designation, although from a contract perspective, Beth has always known her role.
I'd write more on this but I'm in Vegas and, well, there is just to much -- and too many -- to do here. ;)
[QUOTE=V1man;342757]You prove my point. Most fans are generally clueless about who these people really are. Susie laughs at being called "good," and Beth cringes at the "bad" designation, although from a contract perspective, Beth has always known her role.
I'd write more on this but I'm in Vegas and, well, there is just to much -- and too many -- to do here. ;)[/QUOTE]
We are not implying what the cast members are like outside the show but what they're perceived on the show. Whatever the edit shows us is what we will refer to. Like CT was a bad*** from Inferno-Duel 2 but a "good guy" on Rivals and exes. Of course we don't know what Beth and Susie are like outside the show and most importantly that's irrelevant to this thread.
Bet on Black!!
[QUOTE=TheCloser;342773]We are not implying what the cast members are like outside the show but what they're perceived on the show. Whatever the edit shows us is what we will refer to. Like CT was a bad*** from Inferno-Duel 2 but a "good guy" on Rivals and exes. Of course we don't know what Beth and Susie are like outside the show and most importantly that's irrelevant to this thread.
Bet on Black!![/QUOTE]
"We...." :watermelon:
It really shouldn't be irrelevant. Knowledge of the truth is so much more empowering.
Should a moderator really be this rude when debating? Aren't you supposed to be a role model?
Okay, maybe you're not a moderator, but everyone knows you here. Just because you have status doesn't mean you can put others down.
[QUOTE=VegasAtSea;342788]Should a moderator really be this rude when debating? Aren't you supposed to be a role model?
Okay, maybe you're not a moderator, but everyone knows you here. Just because you have status doesn't mean you can put others down.[/QUOTE]
Who did I put down? I simply laughed at the reference to "we." The only imperial "we" at vevmo is Bacchus.
I'm one of those who always wants to know the reality of things and then apply that information. If I were to build a fantasy cast, it would be with the knowledge I have gained about the people I was selecting. I'm absolutely not interested in what some producer I don't value elects to show.
[QUOTE=V1man;342687]LOLing at Beth being a "bad girl" and Susie being a "good girl." They both are good friends, and you have that completely wrong.[/QUOTE]
I love people that come on here and talk all kinds of nonsense and think they know what they're talking about. [ATTACH]1916[/ATTACH]
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And if you look in the back, there is Susie with her Good Guys jersey on.
Before you come on here talking like you know what your talking about, take a look at previous challenges.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;342798]I love people that come on here and talk all kinds of nonsense and think they know what they're talking about. [ATTACH]1916[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH]1917[/ATTACH]
And if you look in the back, there is Susie with her Good Guys jersey on.
Before you come on here talking like you know what your talking about, take a look at previous challenges.[/QUOTE]
Dude, really? Of course that is the way they were portrayed. I acknowledged that above...:nightmare:
BTW, Beth has been my business partner and close friend since 2005. I think I know her rather well. I've known Susie that long as well. Susie is a terrific person, but her game is not that of a "good girl" with whom I'm always delighted to discuss theology.
On "The Ruins," it was Susie who engineered the Evelyn/Kelly Ann match up, wanting to ensure that 1) Kelly Ann -- the strongest "challenger" would go home, and 2) Evelyn would have to be alone without any connection to the challengers. She was there to win -- manipulating and orchestrating the game from behind the scenes, while maintaining her on-camera persona. It was a smart move on her part, though not expecting that, for Eve, loyalty to a friend was more important than the game.
[QUOTE=V1man;342805]BTW, Beth has been my business partner and close friend since 2005.[/QUOTE]
Beth is a baddie. The evil mastermind has pulled the wool over your eyes. I'd double check your accounts if I was you.
V1man, I think you understand though that Beth would be cast as a "bad guy/villain" while Susie would be cast as a "good guy/hero" which is why your comment just doesn't make sense. Most of us understand you know these people very well BUT that doesn't alter the fact that Susie and Beth would be cast as that person stated.
[QUOTE=ILoveRW;342812]Beth is a baddie. The evil mastermind has pulled the wool over your eyes. I'd double check your accounts if I was you.[/QUOTE]
If I were not laughing so hard, I'd be insulted. BTW, I've always handled the business side. :triumphant:
[QUOTE=kvm1977;342816]V1man, I think you understand though that Beth would be cast as a "bad guy/villain" while Susie would be cast as a "good guy/hero" which is why your comment just doesn't make sense. Most of us understand you know these people very well BUT that doesn't alter the fact that Susie and Beth would be cast as that person stated.[/QUOTE]
I've acknowledged that very fact, but focusing on that trivializes my point. Both Beth and Susie have played roles on the challenges.
Moving on...
My favorite Dream Cast is Battle of the Alliances:
JEK Dynasty: Johnny, Evan, Kenny, Derrick, Tyler, Paula, Jenn, Sarah, Suzie & Camila
Team Wes: Wes, Danny, Nehemiah, Trey, Brandon, Evelyn, Melinda, Annesa, Mandi & Laura
San Diego & Cancoon: Zach, Frank, CJ, Derek, Knight, Jonna, Jasmine, Jemmye, Ashley & Sam
Lone Wolves: CT, Leroy, Abe, Dustin, Mike, Laurel, Cara Marie, Emily, Nany & Heather
I feel like this cast creates great competition and drama. I also like Brad, Darrell, and Mark. However, if it was Battle of the Alliances, I don't see where they would fit.
[QUOTE=V1man;342805]Dude, really? Of course that is the way they were portrayed. I acknowledged that above...:nightmare:
BTW, Beth has been my business partner and close friend since 2005. I think I know her rather well. I've known Susie that long as well. Susie is a terrific person, but her game is not that of a "good girl" with whom I'm always delighted to discuss theology.
[B]On "The Ruins," it was Susie who engineered the Evelyn/Kelly Ann match up[/B], wanting to ensure that 1) Kelly Ann -- the strongest "challenger" would go home, and 2) Evelyn would have to be alone without any connection to the challengers. She was there to win -- manipulating and orchestrating the game from behind the scenes, while maintaining her on-camera persona. It was a smart move on her part, though not expecting that, for Eve, loyalty to a friend was more important than the game.[/QUOTE]
I'm not going to delve too much into this because it has nothing to do with this challenge, but no it was not. Johnny was the one who went around to all of his Champion teammates and asked if they would all vote for a Evelyn vs. KellyAnne Ruins. Susie just went along with it and voted the way Johnny, Kenny, and Evan wanted.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;342877]I'm not going to delve too much into this because it has nothing to do with this challenge, but no it was not. Johnny was the one who went around to all of his Champion teammates and asked if they would all vote for a Evelyn vs. KellyAnne Ruins. Susie just went along with it and voted the way Johnny, Kenny, and Evan wanted.[/QUOTE]
What we see on TV is quite often much different from what truly happened. V1 said that she did it behind the scenes to protect her "good guy" tv image.
[QUOTE=dbrower;342824]My favorite Dream Cast is Battle of the Alliances:
JEK Dynasty: Johnny, Evan, Kenny, Derrick, Tyler, Paula, Jenn, Sarah, Suzie & Camila
Team Wes: Wes, Danny, Nehemiah, Trey, Brandon, Evelyn, Melinda, Annesa, Mandi & Laura
San Diego & Cancoon: Zach, Frank, CJ, Derek, Knight, Jonna, Jasmine, Jemmye, Ashley & Sam
Lone Wolves: CT, Leroy, Abe, Dustin, Mike, Laurel, Cara Marie, Emily, Nany & Heather
I feel like this cast creates great competition and drama. I also like Brad, Darrell, and Mark. However, if it was Battle of the Alliances, I don't see where they would fit.[/QUOTE]
I like, I mean this would sure keep viewers intrigued and it's very possible to happen (if they wanted to). Mind if I steal with with my own version?
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;342877]I'm not going to delve too much into this because it has nothing to do with this challenge, but no it was not. Johnny was the one who went around to all of his Champion teammates and asked if they would all vote for a Evelyn vs. KellyAnne Ruins. Susie just went along with it and voted the way Johnny, Kenny, and Evan wanted.[/QUOTE]
I write based upon what I've been told by cast members in a position to know. I wouldn't waste my time -- or your -- stating what the edit showed. We all should know by know that BMP edits to their own purpose.
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;342878]What we see on TV is quite often much different from what truly happened. V1 said that she did it behind the scenes to protect her "good guy" tv image.[/QUOTE]
Yes, thank you.
Rivals - Male Female Pairs* (what season their beef was in parenthesis)
Abram/Laurel (Cutthroat)
Kenny/Kellyanne (Island [the reunion])
Johnny/Evelyn (Island, Ruins)
Wes/Cara Maria (Rivals I)
Frank/Nany (Seasons)
Johnny/Nia (RW: Portland)
Knight/Camila (Seasons)
Frank/Tori (Gauntlet III)
Trey/Marie (ST. Thomas)
Brad/Casey (Ruins)
Nate/Ashley (San Diego)
JD/Katelynne (Brooklyn)
CT/Mandi (Rivals I)
Vinny/Shauvon (Cutthroat)
* THIS IS NOT BASED ON REAL LIFE...IT'S BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED ON THE PORTION OF THE TELEVISION SHOW THAT EVERYONE WAS PRIVY TO.
Battle Of The Exes 2
Ct & Diem ( I know they were in the first one, But I just want to see them again)[ATTACH]1940[/ATTACH]
Ty & Paula [ATTACH]1941[/ATTACH]
Trey & Laura[ATTACH]1942[/ATTACH]
Adam & Nany [ATTACH]1943[/ATTACH]
Kenny & Johanna[ATTACH]1944[/ATTACH]
Jordan & Nia[ATTACH]1945[/ATTACH]
Alton & Sarah [ATTACH]1946[/ATTACH]
Cohutta & KellyAnn [ATTACH]1947[/ATTACH]
Knight & Jemmye[ATTACH]1948[/ATTACH]
Robb & Marie[ATTACH]1949[/ATTACH]
Big Easy & Devyn[ATTACH]1950[/ATTACH]
Chet & Trishelle[ATTACH]1951[/ATTACH]
Zach & Ashley[ATTACH]1952[/ATTACH]
Danny & Melinda [ATTACH]1953[/ATTACH]
[B][U]Battle of the Sexes 3[/U][/B]
[U]Guys or Male Challenger Wimps[/U]
Nick (RW: Hollywood)
Chet (RW: Brooklyn)
Andrew (RW: DC)
Josh (RW: DC)
Knight (RW: B2 New Orleans)
Chris (RR: Europe)
Noah (RR: Northern Trail)
Donell (RR: South Pacific)
Danny (RR: X-Treme)
Lamonte (RR: Viewers Revenge)
Eric (FM)
Ryan (FM)
Jesse (FM)
Brandon (FM2)
Luke (FM2)
Jeff (FM2)
[U]Girls or Strongest Females Ever[/U]
Ruthie (RW: Hawaii)
Kelly-Anne (RW: Sydney)
Sarah (RW: Brooklyn)
Emily (RW: DC)
Ashlee (RW: B2 New Orleans)
Cooke (RW: B2 Las Vegas 2.5)
Ashley (RW: B2 San Diego)
Emily (RR: Second Adventure)
Holly (RR: Latin America)
Holly (RR: MVT)
Rachel (RR: Campus Crawl)
Jodi (RR: X-Treme)
Diem (FM)
Ev (FM)
Laurel (FM2)
Camila (Spring Break?)
Girls FTW!
[B]Rivals 2[/B]
Averey Tressler & Nia Moore (Real World: Portland)
Nany Gonzalez & Heather Cooke (Real World: Las Vegas 2.0)
Camila Nakagawa & Jonna Mannion (The Challenge: Rivals)
Emily Schromm & Paula Meronek (The Challenge: Battle of the Exes/Cutthroat)
Theresa Gonzalez & Jasmine Reynaud (The Challenge: Rivals)
Cara Maria Sorbello & Jenn Grijalva (The Challenge: Rivals)
Sarah Rice & Trishelle Cannatella (The Challenge: Battle of the Seasons)
KellyAnne Judd & Susie Meister (The Challenge: The Ruins)
Diem Brown & Aneesa Fereirra(The Challenge: The Duel/The Duel 2)
Jordan Wiseley & Marlon Williams (Real World: Portland)
Trey Weatherholtz & Zach Nichols(The Challenge: Battle of the Seasons)
Robb Schreiber & Derek Chavez (The Challenge: Battle of the Seasons)
Frank Sweeney & Johnny Devenanzio (Twitter)
Adam Royer & Ty Ruff (The Challenge: Rivals)
Preston Robert Charles & Ryan Leslie (Real World: New Orleans 2.0)
Pete Connolly & Danny Jamieson (The Challenge: Fresh Meat 2)
Wes Bergman & CT Tamburello (The Challenge: Rivals)
Abram Boise & Adam Larson (Road Rules: Viewers Revenge)
[QUOTE=VCR14;344261][B]Rivals 2[/B]
Averey Tressler & Nia Moore (Real World: Portland)
Nany Gonzalez & Heather Cooke (Real World: Las Vegas 2.0)
Camila Nakagawa & Jonna Mannion (The Challenge: Rivals)
[B]Emily Schromm & Paula Meronek[/B] (The Challenge: Battle of the Exes/Cutthroat)
[B]Theresa Gonzalez & Jasmine Reynaud[/B] (The Challenge: Rivals)
Cara Maria Sorbello & Jenn Grijalva (The Challenge: Rivals)
[B]Sarah Rice & Trishelle Cannatella[/B] (The Challenge: Battle of the Seasons)
KellyAnne Judd & Susie Meister (The Challenge: The Ruins)
[B]Diem Brown & Aneesa Fereirra[/B](The Challenge: The Duel/The Duel 2)
[B]Jordan Wiseley & Marlon Williams[/B] (Real World: Portland)
[B]Trey Weatherholtz & Zach Nichols[/B](The Challenge: Battle of the Seasons)
[B]Robb Schreiber & Derek Chavez [/B](The Challenge: Battle of the Seasons)
[B]Frank Sweeney & Johnny Devenanzio[/B] (Twitter)
Adam Royer & Ty Ruff (The Challenge: Rivals)
Preston Robert Charles & Ryan Leslie (Real World: New Orleans 2.0)
Pete Connolly & Danny Jamieson (The Challenge: Fresh Meat 2)
[B]Wes Bergman & CT Tamburello[/B] (The Challenge: Rivals)
Abram Boise & Adam Larson (Road Rules: Viewers Revenge)[/QUOTE]
These are all happening already
Also, Battle of the Exes 2
Adam Royer (RW: Las Vegas 2) & Nany Gonzalez (RW: Las Vegas 2)
Alton Williams (RW: Las Vegas) & Irulan Wilson (RW: Las Vegas)
CT Tamburello (RW: Paris) & Laurel Stucky (Fresh Meat 2)
Cohutta Grindstaff (RW: Sydney) & KellyAnne Judd (RW: Sydney)
Danny Jamieson (RW: Austin) & Melinda Stolp (RW: Austin)
Frank Roessler (RW: Las Vegas) & Jillian Zoboroski (RR: X-Treme)
Kenny Santucci (Fresh Meat) & Johanna Botta (RW: Austin)
Pete Connolly (Fresh Meat 2) & Jenn Grijalva (RW: Denver)
Randy Barry (RW: San Diego) & Kina Dean (RR: X-Treme)
Robb Schreiber (RW: Saint Thomas) & Marie Roda (RW: Saint Thomas)
Ryan Knight (RW: New Orleans 2) & Jemmye Carroll (RW: New Orleans 2)
Steven Hill (RW: Las Vegas) & Trishelle Cannatella (RW: Las Vegas)
Trey Weatherholtz (RW: Saint Thomas) & Laura Waller (RW: Saint Thomas)
Ty Ruff (RW: Washington DC) & Paula Meronek (RW: Key West)
Wes Bergmann (RW: Austin) & Theresa Gonzalez (Fresh Meat 2)
Zach Nichols (RW: San Diego 2) & Ashley Kelsey (RW: San Diego 2)
[B]Rivals III (male and female pairings)[/B]
Chet & Devyn (brooklyn/seasons)
Johnny & Susie (i3)
CT & Coral (g3)
Dan & Robin (island)
Dunbar & Kelly Anne (ruins)
Ty & Camila (cutthroat)
Wes & Cara Maria (rivals)
Swift & Latoya (st thomas)
Frank & Nany (seasons)
Dustin & Trishelle (seasons)
Derek & Marie (seasons)
Johnny & Jessica (portland)
Jordan & Nia (portland)
[QUOTE=alaskak94;344355]These are all happening already
Also, Battle of the Exes 2
Adam Royer (RW: Las Vegas 2) & Nany Gonzalez (RW: Las Vegas 2)
Alton Williams (RW: Las Vegas) & Irulan Wilson (RW: Las Vegas)
CT Tamburello (RW: Paris) & Laurel Stucky (Fresh Meat 2)
Cohutta Grindstaff (RW: Sydney) & KellyAnne Judd (RW: Sydney)
Danny Jamieson (RW: Austin) & Melinda Stolp (RW: Austin)
Frank Roessler (RW: Las Vegas) & Jillian Zoboroski (RR: X-Treme)
Kenny Santucci (Fresh Meat) & Johanna Botta (RW: Austin)
Pete Connolly (Fresh Meat 2) & Jenn Grijalva (RW: Denver)
Randy Barry (RW: San Diego) & Kina Dean (RR: X-Treme)
Robb Schreiber (RW: Saint Thomas) & Marie Roda (RW: Saint Thomas)
Ryan Knight (RW: New Orleans 2) & Jemmye Carroll (RW: New Orleans 2)
Steven Hill (RW: Las Vegas) & Trishelle Cannatella (RW: Las Vegas)
Trey Weatherholtz (RW: Saint Thomas) & Laura Waller (RW: Saint Thomas)
Ty Ruff (RW: Washington DC) & Paula Meronek (RW: Key West)
Wes Bergmann (RW: Austin) & Theresa Gonzalez (Fresh Meat 2)
Zach Nichols (RW: San Diego 2) & Ashley Kelsey (RW: San Diego 2)[/QUOTE]
LOVES IT
Some of them have retired (Jenn) and I thought Frank and Jillian were still together, but I love this cast. Only thing... since Kenny won't be back I'd switch him out with someone like Leroy and Jasmine (anything to get Leroy on, honestly) or Dustin and Cooke.
[QUOTE=CherryPie;345689]LOVES IT
Some of them have retired (Jenn) and I thought Frank and Jillian were still together, but I love this cast. Only thing... since Kenny won't be back I'd switch him out with someone like Leroy and Jasmine (anything to get Leroy on, honestly) or Dustin and Cooke.[/QUOTE]
You just gave Jillian a huge laugh. She reads vevmo... Frank is several guys removed from her current serious love interest. She is also now in San Diego working for the San Diego Padres. Her relationship with BMP is a long-faded memory. She has told the company that she is not interested in any future relationship with them.
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