The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

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First of all How is it possible that Zach & Trey were eliminated before Knight & Preston? Second I'll definitely be rooting for CT & Wes this season they both have alot to prove since they both blew it in the final challenge so it would be cool to see them both get redemption and win this time.
[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;342418]First of all How is it possible that Zach & Trey were eliminated before Knight & Preston? Second I'll definitely be rooting for CT & Wes this season they both have alot to prove since they both blew it in the final challenge so it would be cool to see them both get redemption and win this time.[/QUOTE] I have a feeling that Johnny/Frank are running the game and Frank wants to protect Knight because he's his friend and Johnny is going along with it because they wouldn't be a hard team to beat in a final.
I wonder if the rules are like whoever gets last place is going into elimination because if that is the case, I don't see how Knight and Preston are there. I mean they are terrible, the majority of the girl teams could beat them. But hey I'm not complaining, I love Knight and his commentary. haha just in shock!
Sending Preston & Knight into an elimination round is as dumb as it was to send Rachel & Aneesa into an elimination round during Exes. There's two reasons...1) You know they can't beat you in a final....2) You hope if you have to go into an elimination round you get to face them. Johnny's not blinded by revenge from something irrelevant with Knight & Preston so it all makes sense that Preston & Knight are likely getting a free ride unless they finish last in a mission.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;342427]Sending Preston & Knight into an elimination round is as dumb as it was to send Rachel & Aneesa into an elimination round during Exes. There's two reasons...1) You know they can't beat you in a final....2) You hope if you have to go into an elimination round you get to face them. Johnny's not blinded by revenge from something irrelevant with Knight & Preston so it all makes sense that Preston & Knight are likely getting a free ride unless they [B]finish last in a mission[/B].[/QUOTE] Which I am wondering how they have managed to not do so yet. Or maybe they have but won an elimination, however this is highly doubtful.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;342444]Which I am wondering how they have managed to not do so yet. Or maybe they have but won an elimination, however this is highly doubtful.[/QUOTE] Or they're home already and we just have no proof of it yet. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case honestly
Or maybe the elims are actually fair? I think it was exes where they had the pairs stand on a thing while they had to jump and duck over spinning bumpers. I guarantee something like that based more on timing that knight/preston could beat a team like Zach/Trey. If anything being lighter is an advantage, Zach strictly because of his size would actually lose to most people in an elim like that. Anything with rythm or repetive motion just like a puzzle has nothing to do with strength. I also think the Challenge including someone missing some fingers is a great thing, if they have fair elims I'll be a happy guy
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;342445]Or they're home already and we just have no proof of it yet. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case honestly[/QUOTE] That is a possibility, but I think it is more likely that they are simply avoiding last place. If they are in a solid alliance, they can be given a favorable position and compete to avoid last place in missions. Seeing what to do and not do in a mission is a huge advantage, which is why CT + Adam's performance on Rivals was so impressive.
Not at all surprised to see Jasmine gone. I love Jasmine and find her entertaining, but I think Theresa is just a waste of space as a castmember and it's incredible to me that she's been cast on four challenges. oh and if I were there, I would want to keep the weakest team around for as long as possible.
I saw some one on here a couple days ago refer to Frank, Zach, and Knight as FZK, similar to JEK for Johnny, Evan, and Kenny. If people think that Frank, Zach, and Knight will be the new Johnny, Evan, and Kenny, that is absurd.
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Pretty sure that spoiler speculating convo abotu format is supposed to be here so i'll post here my response...I feel their isn't much different rules than rivals 1 purely becuase the eliminations are about right as far as keeping pace. I said before when i saw the cast that i doubt frank/Zach remain friends after, they probably weren't aligned becuase Frank saw who he could align with of the vets due to his pairing with JOhny and said to Zach you are on your own. I feel they will hate each other or Zach will find a way to blame it on Frank. Just speculation of course, but i could def forsee that based on pairs and how a member here who said she knew Zach, said Frank/Zach were cordial and made up before the challenge purely so they could work together, and not becuase they are best buddies now. The rules coudl be differnet, but i would think that more if one of the team si felt were aligned went home early rather than the usual suspects.
I feel the same way, I think there isn't too much of a different format from Rivals 1.
Poor Theresa, but totally saw that coming.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;342464]I saw some one on here a couple days ago refer to Frank, Zach, and Knight as FZK, similar to JEK for Johnny, Evan, and Kenny. If people think that Frank, Zach, and Knight will be the new Johnny, Evan, and Kenny, that is absurd.[/QUOTE] I couldn't agree more. No one can compare to JEK. Not only are they masterminds at this game, they are hilarious to watch on TV. I remember Chet saying on a podcast that Frank and Zach were nothing like them and didn't understand why they were being compared to JEK because they just caused drama and he said JEK are actually funny and likable. Team JEK :)
hilarious to watch? are you for real?
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;342499]Poor Theresa, but totally saw that coming.[/QUOTE] I'm happy to see her out. I'm re-watching Cutthroat right now and she's unbearable. Hopefully she's at least stopped acting like some sort of hard-a** and has matured a little.
[QUOTE=GivingTree;342578]I'm happy to see her out. I'm re-watching Cutthroat right now and she's unbearable. Hopefully she's at least stopped acting like some sort of hard-a** and has matured a little.[/QUOTE] Here's to hoping (crossing fingers)
Newbie here. I just literally found this forum tonight. I was wondering is it pretty much confirmed it'll be Rivals 2? And that Sarah has been eliminated along with Trishelle? Because I haven't seen her on Twitter since March. Or did someone confirm they saw her somewhere? Thanks.
[QUOTE=cuddlefuddle;342615]Newbie here. I just literally found this forum tonight. I was wondering is it pretty much confirmed it'll be Rivals 2? And that Sarah has been eliminated along with Trishelle? Because I haven't seen her on Twitter since March. Or did someone confirm they saw her somewhere? Thanks.[/QUOTE] If you look at The Challenge: Thailand 2013-Elimination Spoilers, you will see that molds13 confirmed that they were one of the early eliminated girl pairs. I didn't think they would be eliminated so quickly.
[QUOTE=CASTOFF;342616]If you look at The Challenge: Thailand 2013-Elimination Spoilers, you will see that molds13 confirmed that they were one of the early eliminated girl pairs. I didn't think they would be eliminated so quickly.[/QUOTE] I saw that thread. I just didn't know if that list was from seeing them on Twitter again, spotting them somewhere or what. Or if the person had an actual source. And I know, I'm kind of surprised by that actually. I was hoping Sarah could finally win one and take a break.
Paula and Emily are just gonna dominate this show which kind of disappoints me. It takes the suspense out of it for me on the girl's side. And although the male's side is more up in the air than that of the females I think it's safe to say Johnny & Frank are probably going to win this. Johnny lives these shows and has won the last 2 he was on, and Frank is coming off his win (pathetic as it may have been) but he was going on in the reunion about the final being easy and not even breaking a sweat. Paula just got extremely lucky with having two of the most elite females to ever appear on the show as a partner. There's just no way I see anyone stopping her and Emily, they are both well liked by just about everyone and both can hold their own in elims as well as rock out in a final. If another female team takes this I will be in utter shock. I want to say LeRoy and Ty might be the biggest competition to Johnny and Frank on the male's side but it is very early and you never quite know what mental shape people show up in (I'm still not fully convinced Ty can come in 100% serious and stay focused on the game). I might be committing a sin not going with CT and Wes, but CT's smoking and Wes also not being certain of how serious he is taking this one makes me question them. I'm certainly rooting for them as my most want to win team, but there are too many x factors that could screw them. Dare I say CT could very well be cursed on these shows.
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[QUOTE=ChampyFiend;342626]Paula and Emily are just gonna dominate this show which kind of disappoints me. It takes the suspense out of it for me on the girl's side. And although the male's side is more up in the air than that of the females I think it's safe to say Johnny & Frank are probably going to win this. Johnny lives these shows and has won the last 2 he was on, and Frank is coming off his win (pathetic as it may have been) but he was going on in the reunion about the final being easy and not even breaking a sweat. Paula just got extremely lucky with having two of the most elite females to ever appear on the show as a partner. There's just no way I see anyone stopping her and Emily, they are both well liked by just about everyone and both can hold their own in elims as well as rock out in a final. If another female team takes this I will be in utter shock. I want to say LeRoy and Ty might be the biggest competition to Johnny and Frank on the male's side but it is very early and you never quite know what mental shape people show up in (I'm still not fully convinced Ty can come in 100% serious and stay focused on the game). I might be committing a sin not going with CT and Wes, but CT's smoking and Wes also not being certain of how serious he is taking this one makes me question them. I'm certainly rooting for them as my most want to win team, but there are too many x factors that could screw them. Dare I say CT could very well be cursed on these shows.[/QUOTE] Obviously we haven't seen JOhnny/Marlon yet, but Ty has by far the worst endurance of the remaining guys IMO.He has not shown at all on the challenge he can last and be successful in a final
[QUOTE=jojorules;342627]Obviously we haven't seen JOhnny/Marlon yet, but Ty has by far the worst endurance of the remaining guys IMO.He has not shown at all on the challenge he can last and be successful in a final[/QUOTE] Maybe I'm putting too much faith in LeRoy and like I said it is early so my view on things is distorted as a lot of it is speculation. The biggest question for me is Wes. CT's smoking is an issue but that only proved to be an obstacle for him in the last leg of the race climbing up a mountain where the air pressure was very heavy on his lungs. I agree that even with his chain smoking he would outlast Ty in a final (well he did it on Exes so yeah). If Wes is there 100% to win and is in prime physical shape they are definitely the biggest competition to Johnny no question. I just don't really know which Wes we are getting yet.
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[QUOTE=ChampyFiend;342628]Maybe I'm putting too much faith in LeRoy and like I said it is early so my view on things is distorted as a lot of it is speculation. The biggest question for me is Wes. CT's smoking is an issue but that only proved to be an obstacle for him in the last leg of the race climbing up a mountain where the air pressure was very heavy on his lungs. I agree that even with his chain smoking he would outlast Ty in a final (well he did it on Exes so yeah). If Wes is there 100% to win and is in prime physical shape they are definitely the biggest competition to Johnny no question. I just don't really know which Wes we are getting yet.[/QUOTE] Well my far fetched hope is that Wes maybe scrawny now, but hopefully he has been running. That is my hope, or else they are doomed. I wasn't even sure they would make it this far, i jsut hope they make the finals so they have a chance, ct and wes i mean. Hopefully somehow the final makes the playing field level or johnny/frank def are the clear favorites in a final. Everyone saying Paula got a great partner, how abotu Johnny. Johnny really just needs someone to not be horrible at missions, and with alliances he isn't worried. So he got that, so as long as they aren't fighting constantly which JOhnny puts winning above anything, they will be fine. I wish he would have gotten Casey on exes though, his pairings in 2 person team challenges have been very good . If Paula woudln't have gotten emily, they would have tried to have Laurel too so either way she was set.
[QUOTE=jojorules;342629]Well my far fetched hope is that Wes maybe scrawny now, but hopefully he has been running. That is my hope, or else they are doomed. I wasn't even sure they would make it this far, i jsut hope they make the finals so they have a chance, ct and wes i mean. Hopefully somehow the final makes the playing field level or johnny/frank def are the clear favorites in a final. Everyone saying Paula got a great partner, how abotu Johnny. Johnny really just needs someone to not be horrible at missions, and with alliances he isn't worried. So he got that, so as long as they aren't fighting constantly which JOhnny puts winning above anything, they will be fine. I wish he would have gotten Casey on exes though, his pairings in 2 person team challenges have been very good .[/QUOTE] Ya I guess that's true Tyler, Camilla, and Frank are all pretty great partners to have from a competition standpoint. I suppose Paula gets more crap for it because Johnny was already an established winner on Island and Ruins while Paula never won until she was gifted with heads and above the best female competitor on the show. And even though everyone knows the Vets won G3 (they still completed the final before the rookies even with Big Easy holding the team back tremendously and then taking excessive time to get carted off but lost on a bogus DQ because Easy didn't finish) at the end of the day it didn't go down as a win so Paula was still viewed as being the girl who does every single show but can't ever win. Edit: Fun Tidbit: The rookie team members that won speak of it to this day as if it was some incredible victory and they earned it. I always get a kick out of people like Johanna going on about being an elite competitor for winning G3.
Who do you guys think has gone into the most eliminations on the female side? Marlon/Jordan seem like they'd be thrown in a bunch.
It might also be they felt that Paula really got screwed over on the Island and there may have been some bad feelings at BMP about it. Paula was still crying about at the Island Reunion after all.
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i feel if any team went or are going into multiple elimination rounds, i'd say jasmine/theresa did till they got eliminated, and camila/jemmye. To fresh meat's question..I base this on having weak links in daily missions, and alliances
[QUOTE=jojorules;342629]Well my far fetched hope is that Wes maybe scrawny now, but hopefully he has been running. That is my hope, or else they are doomed. I wasn't even sure they would make it this far, i jsut hope they make the finals so they have a chance, ct and wes i mean. Hopefully somehow the final makes the playing field level or johnny/frank def are the clear favorites in a final. Everyone saying Paula got a great partner, how abotu Johnny. Johnny really just needs someone to not be horrible at missions, and with alliances he isn't worried. So he got that, so as long as they aren't fighting constantly which JOhnny puts winning above anything, they will be fine. I wish he would have gotten Casey on exes though, his pairings in 2 person team challenges have been very good . If Paula woudln't have gotten emily, they would have tried to have Laurel too so either way she was set.[/QUOTE] Laurel would have had to quit her job to have been available. Laurel was not interested.
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[QUOTE=V1man;342634]Laurel would have had to quit her job to have been available. Laurel was not interested.[/QUOTE] I meant more towards she was prob the backup in their mind when they were figuring out pairs whether she was available or not. she was Paula's next rival in line. So option 1 or 2 for her people would complain...This in a scenario where they were all available. I did hear she wasn't interested and has a good job

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