If it is Johnny/Frank and Wes/CT IDK if Johnny is going to be in an alliance with CT, Johnny doesn't like Wes same with Frank. In the first rivals no one liked CT, this time no one likes Wes, IDK how that is going to work. If in fact is Johnny/Frank maybe they will let Wes and CT to have a free pass to the finals since both gassed out on the past.
Alliances are usually made with people winning daily challenges, since CT didn't have a problem with Adam he's bound to win some with Wes. Going after them will be a mistake. Frank is a downgrade from Tyler and Wes is an upgrade for Adam. Plus if the final has some kind of mental aspect I'd rather have Wes as a partner than some of the meatheads. If CT/Wes are a team a puzzle gives them the best chance in the end, frank will probably snap and Zach/Trey would take awhile. I think the same about Diem/Aneesa, I don't think Paula/Emily can solve something as fast as Diem, she rocked the final on exes
Snake, But CT/adam won a ton of challenges on rivals 1 they still went after them and it worked out for the JEK alliance as a whole. I think JOhnny would want to align witih CT though just bc he wont vote johnny in when he wins a mission, and wes/ct aren't biggest threat to him in a final he prob is pretty confident he can beat both, whether he can again or not. Zach/frank prob won't be friends or cool anymore after this is my prediction.
[QUOTE=Snake19;342098]Alliances are usually made with people winning daily challenges, since CT didn't have a problem with Adam he's bound to win some with Wes. Going after them will be a mistake. Frank is a downgrade from Tyler and Wes is an upgrade for Adam. Plus if the final has some kind of mental aspect I'd rather have Wes as a partner than some of the meatheads. If CT/Wes are a team a puzzle gives them the best chance in the end, frank will probably snap and Zach/Trey would take awhile. I think the same about Diem/Aneesa, I don't think Paula/Emily can solve something as fast as Diem, she rocked the final on exes[/QUOTE]
Apparently Frank is great at puzzles, I dont think Wes is though, Adam definitely is. Wes is a smart guy though, I'll give him that, hes definitely secretly just a nerd and Leroy said hes a lot like Mike lmao which is shocking cause I can never picture Mike saying the stuff Wes says on camera. I hope they do another trivia challenge that could help out some of the smaller people and hopefully the final has lots of puzzles apparently rivals 1 did but it wasnt shown, nothing better than feeling frustrated, rushed and tired and having to think lol
If the person who knows some castmembers knows frank/johnny are doing great, and says wes is horrible at everything. not a good sign IMO for a certain team
[QUOTE=Snake19;342098]Alliances are usually made with people winning daily challenges, since CT didn't have a problem with Adam he's bound to win some with Wes. Going after them will be a mistake. Frank is a downgrade from Tyler and Wes is an upgrade for Adam. Plus if the final has some kind of mental aspect I'd rather have Wes as a partner than some of the meatheads. If CT/Wes are a team a puzzle gives them the best chance in the end, frank will probably snap and Zach/Trey would take awhile. I think the same about Diem/Aneesa, I don't think Paula/Emily can solve something as fast as Diem, she rocked the final on exes[/QUOTE]
Not so sure about frank, didnt he brag about how he had a high IQ or something? besides in that mission on BOTS when they have to carry logs and resolve the puzzle he was the only one that reminded his part.
[QUOTE=jojorules;342103]If the person who knows some castmembers knows frank/johnny are doing great, and says wes is horrible at everything. not a good sign IMO for a certain team[/QUOTE]
What? That person knows how theyre doing?
[QUOTE=jojorules;342103]If the person who knows some castmembers knows frank/johnny are doing great, and says wes is horrible at everything. not a good sign IMO for a certain team[/QUOTE]
That doesn't mean anything.
Remember two days ago. He said
[QUOTE=townie;341461]They're not going to put Johnny & Frank on the same team...they have no on-camera history with each other and the vast majority of people who watch the show don't keep up with these people off-camera to be aware of hostility between the two on Twitter or whatever.
CT & Johnny are going to be a pair, they can go back six years in the archives to piece together a timeline for these two.
Duel 1: CT spearheaded the movement to get Johnny into the first elimination round. First night they were there, he got a bunch of the guys together & told them "Johnny's going under."
Gauntlet 3: CT again spearheads Johnny's departure from the show, basically convincing the rest of the team that Evan said he wanted to face Johnny in the Gauntlet. The two got into a headed exchange with CT telling Johnny he'd murder him.
Cutthroat: Pretty self-explanatory.
Rivals 1: Johnny was apart of the alliance that tried to orchestrate CT's demise from the very start. The two of them again got into a verbal exchange before the final elimination round in which Johnny got some level of retribution for what happened on Cutthroat.
Battle of the Exes: Johnny outlasts CT in the final challenge[/QUOTE]
And today he said
[QUOTE=townie;342072]It's not a matter of Wes "caring" or "trying" on Challenges...he simply sucks...period.
And Johnny is with Frank, and doing very well.[/QUOTE]
I guess a lot of people thought that Frank/Johnny would be a team and if you use your brain you can assume that they're doing well. Furthermore, you can also assume that Wes isn't as good as he used to be and I remember that townie was never a fan of Wes. Again, this does not mean anything.
gd i know you're right ...i thought same thing, but an odd thing to say if u dont know at all..but history has shown that if CT is not kicked off for violence, he has never gone home earlier than the final elimination.>So i will side with history till i see otherwise..Someone who has been to liek 3-4 finals, and eliminated twice in final eliminations before finals, how has he not won it truly is remarkable when u think about it. Takes a lot of breaks not going your way to be that far everytime and somehow come up short whether his doing or someone else doing it to him, but it is what it is. It has been a lot of bad luck too mixed in with his own doings, i coudl break it down but it's been done in the generic thread so i won't bother.. His first win montage will be awesome though!
On Townie defense he has been right before for example on Rivals he was the first one that wrote that they change location from Costa Rica to Argentina for the final nobody believed him till Molds confirm it. Also, for Exes before Molds confirm it he wrote that CT/Diem got 2nd place on the final. Last season he wrote here that neither Johnny nor CT wasn’t going to be on Battle of the seasons since BMP/MTV was going for a fresh/rookie cast once again he was right. If I am not wrong he has train with CT before for a challenge. He wrote that Sunday, Maybe he found out since then that Frank/Johnny is a team.
1. Either a cast member that got eliminated told him.
2. Maybe someone that is still there told him, they let the cast call back home. Even though I highly doubt they would let the cast talk about who is a team with who.
3. Maybe some cast members are being sneaky in order to talk to people back at home like Paula that has been texting her boyfriend.
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[QUOTE=jojorules;342099]Snake, [B]But CT/adam won a ton of challenges on rivals 1[/B] they still went after them and it worked out for the JEK alliance as a whole. I think JOhnny would want to align witih CT though just bc he wont vote johnny in when he wins a mission, and wes/ct aren't biggest threat to him in a final he prob is pretty confident he can beat both, whether he can again or not. Zach/frank prob won't be friends or cool anymore after this is my prediction.[/QUOTE] I wasn't aware that winning 2 out of 9 challenges was "winning a ton".
[QUOTE=jojorules;342084]Not so sure frank/zach will team this time. Someone who knows zach posted during seasons how they are cool with each other but not friends(zach and frank) and they are just working together bc they have to...Either way i see trey targeted, and ct/wes targeted so i dont see why johnny would align with them . Actually yes i see why johnny would, because [B]he knows he can beat ct [/B]and wes [B]in a final[/B], and the others are wildcards. So it would be smart for JOhnny to align with ct/wes. I am curious to see, it's either that or ct/wes will go in a bunch
can you imagine the trash talk johnny will dish if they don't win and how it's all frank's fault?[/QUOTE]
The final challenge that Johnny beat CT in was no ordinary final challenge. CT weighs a lot more than Johnny therefore it was a lot harder for CT to move himself through the snow. I'm sure if CT & Adam were to have been in the final challenge on Rivals they would have won because it was on normal terrain.
[QUOTE=Dylans;342118]On Townie defense he has been right before for example on Rivals he was the first one that wrote that they change location from Costa Rica to Argentina for the final nobody believed him till Molds confirm it. Also, for Exes before Molds confirm it he wrote that CT/Diem got 2nd place on the final. Last season he wrote here that neither Johnny nor CT wasn’t going to be on Battle of the seasons since BMP/MTV was going for a fresh/rookie cast once again he was right. If I am not wrong he has train with CT before for a challenge. He wrote that Sunday, Maybe he found out since then that Frank/Johnny is a team.
1. Either a cast member that got eliminated told him.
2. Maybe someone that is still there told him, they let the cast call back home. Even though I highly doubt they would let the cast talk about who is a team with who.
3. Maybe some cast members are being sneaky in order to talk to people back at home like Paula that has been texting her boyfriend.
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I didnt want to attack him personally. I just wanted to say that just because he talks bad about Wes, it doesn't mean that it probably won't look good for CT/Wes.
I definitely think townie is a good insider, but he also had false information spread out.
On Rivals, he said Adam/CT were in the finals, after BOTS he said that we won't see CT in the near future doing a challenge. You may know the end of the story.
to el scorcho, this isnt the thread to debate/reflect on rivals 1 i'll be brief.... but yes if ct/adam lost they were going in..the 2 they won saved them..and when they didnt win wes/kenny dq'ed and didnt wnat to face them so that was like a free pass as well. so that was 5/9 and the first one of course they wouldn't go in and they went in 2...wait that may be them all i dont think their were 9 even that mattered since some were for the girls jungles if i remember ? .so yes they did very well and compare how many each team won...so yes they did great....
ON topic....Johnny def did not think he coudl beat ct head to head imo before exes, now he has that confidence he can. That goes a long way just believing you can...Johnny outsmarted ct on exes by following his footsteps and ct went full blast whole way which wasn't smart knowing he is in snow. I don't think ct would have gassed in any other conditions, all the sudden his smoking is a prob when several castmemebrs have said how he has legit stamina in spite of smoking. So i think it was just the situation and him being over ampped and if johnny didn't follow his footsteps, woudl he have gassed? Tyler said on afteruzz ct def would have a win by now if he didnt smoke. But ok for exes, but what other challenge hast hat factored in anyway? None, so tyler acts liek it has cost him every challenge.
Townie def has some great inside info, just like anyone sometimes what u hear is wrong, but he has been right too. i never said anything about not believing him...i don't recall him saying they got 2nd though on exes, bc i was wiating on edge of my seat than molds posted it..only reason i remember that is becuase i truly thought ct would get his first win
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;342119]I wasn't aware that winning 2 out of 9 challenges was "winning a ton".[/QUOTE]
2 out of 8 challenges actually. But in their defense, they came close to winning more daily challenges. The first one losing by a couple seconds, almost winning the fourth, losing again by a couple of seconds in the sixth, and if Laurel and Cara Maria had not DQ, CT/Adam would have won the 7th.
Anyways, I am suprise that nobody have been spotted yet.
[spoiler]Ayiiia just posted an old picture of Jonna and herself on instagram with the caption ''Missing my baby'' I guess she is still in it [/spoiler]
[QUOTE=Dylans;342124]Anyways, I am suprise that nobody have been spotted yet.
[spoiler]Ayiiia just posted an old picture of Jonna and herself on instagram with the caption ''Missing my baby'' I guess she is still in it [/spoiler][/QUOTE]
Dylans, are they from the same city, that could mean a lot of things..or maybe misses hanging they only see each other every few months....
[QUOTE=jojorules;342125]Dylans, are they from the same city, that could mean a lot of things..or maybe misses hanging they only see each other every few months....[/QUOTE]
They are from the same city they live in LA... Ayiiia/Jonna/Frank/Frank's boyfriend are always posting pictures of them hanging out.
Frank posted a picture yesterday on Facebook with Jonna/Frank and wrote ''Missing my wolf pack :/''
JEKDynasty on Twitter has said that Johnny is now working with someone from ZFK..It can't be Zach he's def with try and it can't be knight he's def with Preston. It obviously meant Frank. Between townie backtracking and JEKDynasty backtracking maybe CT is with Wes?
I never said CT was for sure partnered with Johnny...I said partnering him with Johnny would be a more logical choice for a Rival than Wes while having Johnny partnered with Frank, and I defended why I believed that.
Apparently, the producers didn't see it that way and feel having CT partnered with Wes and Johnny partnered with Frank is the right way to go.
I really wanna know whose aligned with who, since Zach might be home then Frank may have turned on him, I dont see Knight turning on Zach cause I cant see him winning challenges, or maybe Leroy/Ty and Marlon/Jordan are controlling things now cause Id assume either Wes/CT or Frank/Johnny sent Zach home, I hope CT/Wes dont join sides with Zach/Frank cause that would be like a repeat of last time, the whole point of putting CT with Wes is so that theyre the underdogs. Its interesting how ppl that dont like each other can just start working together just cause it makes the game easier, so hopefully the top 3 teams are working against one another this time.
Quick question can it be possible of two girls pairs being home already?
because according to Facebook posts from Jonna's roomate and Frank boyfriend Jonna wasn't in California as of yesteday. Also, the picture in Ayiiia instagram that she posted about missing her.
What I mean:
Girl pair
Zach/Trey
Maybe Nany//Jonna?
[QUOTE=Dylans;342204]Quick question can it be possible of two girls pairs being home already?
because according to Facebook posts from Jonna's roomate and Frank boyfriend Jonna wasn't in California as of yesteday. Also, the picture in Ayiiia instagram that she posted about missing her.
What I mean:
Girl pair
Zach/Trey
Maybe Nany//Jonna?[/QUOTE]
It could just mean it took Jonna/Nany Jonna a while to get home, flights could have been delayed or they went somewhere else before coming home and we dont know exactly when Zach/Trey went home either.
[QUOTE=Dylans;342204]Quick question can it be possible of two girls pairs being home already?
because according to Facebook posts from Jonna's roomate and Frank boyfriend Jonna wasn't in California as of yesteday. Also, the picture in Ayiiia instagram that she posted about missing her.
What I mean:
Girl pair
Zach/Trey
Maybe Nany//Jonna?[/QUOTE]
Maybe the teams flew home together.
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