The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

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I guess that's two threads that have to be quarantined for the time being...:GB_bonesrock:
I'm not sure if this has been answer but is Dustin Zito (RW LV 25) completely kicked off from the challenge :/ Was upsetting to see him not competing in this years challenge.
[QUOTE=hannamez8;341997]I'm not sure if this has been answer but is Dustin Zito (RW LV 25) completely kicked off from the challenge :/ Was upsetting to see him not competing in this years challenge.[/QUOTE] Why would he be completely kicked off?
Wait.... so the thread is closed because people are posting off topic. Then, the thread is reopened and the first post is... off topic? Come on, guys. This is just obnoxious.
So no spoilers on this thread, right?
[QUOTE=ILoveRW;340623]Unless the challenges relate to smoking or sliding down a pole, Aneesa ain't winning ****.[/QUOTE] foul comment. That was not right.
So this challenge is rivals 2?
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;342055]foul comment. That was not right.[/QUOTE] Perhaps not, but I did laugh perversely.
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side note. that spells doom to me for ct. If he is with Wes whcih they have two big arguments between the two, Not only is Wes not in shape anymore, but he may not even care. Very dissapointing, but my hopes are what i heard was wrong..If CT is smart enough to try to get his friend Johnny out early is their only chance, becuase if alligned together, that is just giving johnny/frank the game becuase i'd take them in any final over the other guy pairs at this point..So maybe wes's politics will balance it out a bit but still those two in a final. I mean exes was a ridiculous final, but i would'nt trust both of them to finish no problem
[QUOTE=jojorules;342062]side note. that spells doom to me for ct. If he is with Wes whcih they have two big arguments between the two, Not only is Wes not in shape anymore, but he may not even care. Very dissapointing, but my hopes are what i heard was wrong..If CT is smart enough to try to get his friend Johnny out early is their only chance, becuase if alligned together, that is just giving johnny/frank the game becuase i'd take them in any final over the other guy pairs at this point..So maybe wes's politics will balance it out a bit but still those two in a final. I mean exes was a ridiculous final, but i would'nt trust both of them to finish no problem[/QUOTE] I think Wes would give effort if he thought he had a shot of winning, and if he is indeed paired with CT, I think he would give effort. He may not be the beast that he used to be, but he is still a decent athlete. On Rivals he and Kenny had a 45 minute lead on Johnny and Tyler until the overnight portion, so he can still probably run a Final.
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[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;342064]I think Wes would give effort if he thought he had a shot of winning, and if he is indeed paired with CT, I think he would give effort. He may not be the beast that he used to be, but he is still a decent athlete. On Rivals he and Kenny had a 45 minute lead on Johnny and Tyler until the overnight portion, so he can still probably run a Final.[/QUOTE] I agree with you if it was Wes from rivals or the ruins or the duel 1..Not this one because no one will be threatened by him at all unless his recent pics are not right. He looks legit scrawny now. But if he still has his athleticism could be another ct/adam type thing smarts and strength...I think the reasons they didnt pair ct/johnny is purely bc they never would have to go in most likely to eliminatino and they don't want two seasons of CT not going in and they want to find a way to get him against either Zach or Frank. If it was wes from rivals 1 even they would probably be frontrunners
CT and Wes would make a win even better, they'd actually be underdogs in the finale. I just don't see a promo with Twitter clips happening
It's not a matter of Wes "caring" or "trying" on Challenges...he simply sucks...period. And Johnny is with Frank, and doing very well.
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Frank was the leader over Zach imo on team san diego, he made all the plays and was even doing the leading during the missions over Zach. Pair him with back to back champ in his last two JOhnny, that team will be tough to beat....i dunno who to root for but i def don't want zach/trey to win... As irritating as frank can be, even if he wins i still dont' think frank wil think he is the best ever, he may think he is the best politicaly and talk ***, but i mean two in a row would be impressive his first two. Just saying..He has said before on that spreecast with Alex how the bigger guys would destroy him in a physical elimination so he does realize that.
Wow! Really MTV/BMP went as far as stretching a twitter war of 2 people that haven't even met? They should juat gove the money to Emily/Paula and Frank/Johnny if they make it to the final. Even if I dislike Frank he actually is a great guy to have for a final, they are the total package and stronger team for a final. CT/Wes both have gas out on finals. Leroy/TY Leroy didn't do well on Rival final and Ty/Emily struggle with puzzles on exes. Zach/Trey Zach have endurance, no idea about Trey since we have never seen him in a endurance competiotion. Marlon/Jordan I think if they make it they are going to be good athletic and by what I heard Jordan is pretty smart. Knight/Preston...
God I really wanted Frank with Wes just so that Wes had a better chance of winning, CT isnt a runner. And I think if Wes wasnt puking and **** he could have done better on rivals, I dont get why Wes got so much **** for rivals 1, he did after all beat Johnny/Tyler by 45 minutes and Kenny didnt carry him on his back for the whole 45 minutes so somehow he kept up with Kenny. Last thing we need is a Johnny and Frank win, at least if they split them up either Wes or CT could have won too, its as if MTV wants Johnny to win everytime, they could make the teams logical but they decide to put the skinny non runner with the chain smoker. I'm still skeptical about this info but youre the 2nd person to say that jojo
CT can run fine. If the final on Exes was on regular terrain, he and Diem would've smoked the field easily. However, as we all know, you can't keep going at a steady pace in knee deep snow for 12 miles and he just wore out. All Johnny did was follow the tracks in the snow that CT already made for him.
[QUOTE=townie;342077]CT can run fine. If the final on Exes was on regular terrain, he and Diem would've smoked the field easily. However, as we all know, you can't keep going at a steady pace in knee deep snow for 12 miles and he just wore out. All Johnny did was follow the tracks in the snow that CT already made for him.[/QUOTE] I find that hard to believe that "CT can run fine" because hes a heavy smoker, Frank apparently is the best runner Zach has ever seen. Interesting thing though, Johnny is a smoker too, could be why Johnny/Tyler were so behind Wes/Kenny, they may have just been running at a slower pace. So maybe CT has a chance but since both of them have lost to Johnny in a final (Wes should have won but still) that makes me think Wes/CT are screwed, but it would be great if they pull out a win, it will show ppl that "rivals" can work together if you give them money. Last time was lame, the fake rivals won
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I think CT gets too amped up almost so he doesnt pace himself correctly becuase he gets so fired up and needs to go full blast...which as townie siad on a straight run is fine he could probably due that the whole way and run just fine at a fast pace, up a hill in snow for 12 miles, he can't keep that pace. Johnny outsmarted him in that final, no doubt. It's gotta be ct/wes if johnny/wes isn't happening. CT/TY would be pure randomness even if they go by a stuff they should have shown clip....I stand by i'd be real excited if wes was in rivals form how he and CT woudl do. I bet they would have done just as good as kenny/Wes did if not better If johnny decides not to align with ct, wes/ct would prob go in everytime though. Wes/CT have legit challenge rivalry though and apparantly zach/trey legit hate each other..Zach said he was gassed in that seasons final at the end and frank was even pushing him up too and seasons final was nothing liek the previous two imo
[QUOTE=Dylans;342075]Wow! Really MTV/BMP went as far as stretching a twitter war of 2 people that haven't even met? [/QUOTE] Johnny and CT would be a further stretch considering they were besties on Exes.
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CT and johnny were legit rivals for g3, rivals,cutthroat and in an alliance in exes, but they also were rivals in that int he sense they competed till the very end got 1st and 2nd. They also in those shows have had countless times of bad talking each other, so if they were paired, they would still be top 2 legit rivalries on this show...But as i said as of recent info i feel it's ct/wes or ct/Ty but i imagine ct/wes..all i heard was who it wasn't
Yea this makes alliances interesting too, Frank and Zach will align. If it was Johnny/CT I dont see why the other teams would align with them, but with Wes/CT maybe Johnny would want to align with CT. CT and whoever should pull a D-day thing again and get rid of the strong teams before the final cause lets be honest, Wes/Evan whoever were right theres no point in going into a final if youre not going to win. Wes should put his money where his mouth is and do it cause if they get paid for showing up whats the point of going to the final and not getting more money
[QUOTE=townie;342072]It's not a matter of Wes "caring" or "trying" on Challenges...he simply sucks...period. And Johnny is with Frank, and doing very well.[/QUOTE] Well I'm not surprised by that. I'm hoping you're a good insider.
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Not so sure frank/zach will team this time. Someone who knows zach posted during seasons how they are cool with each other but not friends(zach and frank) and they are just working together bc they have to...Either way i see trey targeted, and ct/wes targeted so i dont see why johnny would align with them . Actually yes i see why johnny would, because he knows he can beat ct and wes in a final, and the others are wildcards. So it would be smart for JOhnny to align with ct/wes. I am curious to see, it's either that or ct/wes will go in a bunch can you imagine the trash talk johnny will dish if they don't win and how it's all frank's fault?
A team to keep your eye on is Marlon and Jordan. Marlon was an elite LB at Texas Tech and Jordan appears to be a good athlete and runner. There seem to be 2-3 short clips per episode of Jordan running.
[QUOTE=ILoveRW;342080]Johnny and CT would be a further stretch considering they were besties on Exes.[/QUOTE] Atleast, CT/Johnny know each other. They have had an argument, got each other eliminate and Johnny beat CT on a final. For me that's a bigger rivalry than Johnny/Tyler. Frank/Johnny before thos challenge didn't even knew each other. Yes, they got on a twitter war but once they meet they can be friends. For example Jemmye gpt in a twitter war with Zach/Ashley but once she met them. She became friends with them. If Frank/Johnny are consider rivals then Chet and the Kardashians are rivals since he always insulting them or making fun of them. For me thats a big stretch.
[QUOTE=jojorules;342084]Not so sure frank/zach will team this time. Someone who knows zach posted during seasons how they are cool with each other but not friends(zach and frank) and they are just working together bc they have to...Either way i see trey targeted, and ct/wes targeted so i dont see why johnny would align with them . Actually yes i see why johnny would, because he knows he can beat ct and wes in a final, and the others are wildcards. So it would be smart for JOhnny to align with ct/wes. I am curious to see, it's either that or ct/wes will go in a bunch can you imagine the trash talk johnny will dish if they don't win and how it's all frank's fault?[/QUOTE] btw thanks for the info Jojo, youve been great this season :) I actually cant wait for that JEK dynasty groupie to not know who to root for (obv it will be Johnny but still) he also said hes 100% sure its CT/Johnny, if they lose hopefully Frank can blame Johnny, its always someone elses fault when Johnny doesnt get what he wants. At least some of them can be forced to bond and get to know each other lmao
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Marlon was listed at 6 ft 218 during his playing days around 2009..and why did he go undrafted if he was that elite? But i think he has lost some of that size since that weight listing i doubt he weighs more now than his playing days(at least strength/muscle wise) and that was 4 yrs ago. He did play in canada though according to the texas tech site that listed his profile....At least he doesnt look it on tv, but that's just me. He probably is very athletic though so that will help.. Maybe he is same size as Leroy? I see Zach/trey having lots of communication problems i coudl see both wanted to be the leader. Also, Blue123 no problem :) but i actually hope to be wrong about certain things we talked about
Knight/Preston are going to win this challenge.
[QUOTE=Dylans;342089]Knight/Preston are going to win this challenge.[/QUOTE] LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

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