[QUOTE=ellethevegan;338291]We can so do it.. I know people are saying emily s. for the vet girls but we need some proof you guys.. Hope you like the photo catalog![/QUOTE]
Thanks for the pictures! Looks neat.
Also, maybe there are only 28 people on the cast this season. I mean maybe it's not a coincidence that we are missing one person per team? There were 30 on Rivals and Cutthroat, and 32 on Battle of the Seasons, but only 28 people on Exes and The Ruins.
Can we get the reasons we believe cast members to be on written next to them and the ones we believe not to be on posted again with reasons. Who is not going will help us figure out who is going. Ever do a sudoku puzzle?, you need to know what doesnt fit inorder to figure out what does. I personally dont think the cast is right at the moment which is why I brought this up.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;338300]I thought Cooke went pro in the States...[/QUOTE]
I am going to be honest I have no idea how Cooke is even thought to be on this challenge.. I didn't come up with the evidence to add her to the cast someone else did i just took all the info and cleaned it up to give us all something neater to look at..
The only People I know for sure that i helped prove are in the cast is..
Trishelle, Paula, Diem, Jasmine and CT
so the cooke placement isnt my doing.. :)
But we'll figure it out im sure :)
* correction I think based off cooke being ask last season and saying yes.. and apparently she had come back from playing over seas or doesn't leave til a certain time the timing is perfect for her to do it...also the twitter and Facebook updates haven't been going since the 25th or 24th which is the days people set off to leave for the challenge.. idk maybe this isnt the ful scope of her story but this is what i remember reading on her for the most part..
Aneesa, Swift, Ty, Heather, and Dustin are the ones to look out for. The last Rookie girl spot will be the hardest to find. Unless Kenzie had her bf but that pic up from this weekend on Instagram, which is unlikely
Devyn isn't that bad. Brooklyn won missions and had Devyn....she held her own in eliminations too. Disapointed in the cast. Feels like MTV put no effort into it, was hoping for atleast one or two decent surprises and we got zero.
[QUOTE=ColiesMom;338293]I can neither confirm or deny...But if I were to guess I would say your spot on![/QUOTE]
Always listen to the wisdom of your mother!
[QUOTE=benz125;338305]If this cast is correct than the rookies are screwed having both noami and devyn...am 99.9% sure they will lose every mission because of them[/QUOTE]
That's a little much don't you think? You have absolutely no idea how they'll perform this season.
[QUOTE=KingKenny;337837]There is no case against them as far I knew because the alledged incident didn't take place in the United States. And not making any judgements but isn't it essentially just Tonya (the blackout drunk with every reason to be bitter against them) accusing them of something like 3 years after the fact? Also didn't the accusations happen BEFORE Rivals aired with both of them on it?[/QUOTE]
You are grossly misinformed.
- Both individuals were named in the original civil suit, so there was a "case against them."
- They would have to have been charged criminally in Thailand.
- Tonya didn't learn of what had happened to her during the Ruins until months after returning from the challenge taping. An attorney was then sought who began looking into the case, additional attorneys with appropriate California labor and entertainment law experience were then brought in to review and expand the investigation, and a case was filed in 2010 under Calif law law.
- Yes, the two were on Rivals, but that decision was made long before any depositions of witnesses were taken in the case, where under oath facts would then become known to BMP and MTV.
Now you know some facts, many more are available via the California court documents filed in the case.
[QUOTE=benz125;338305]If this cast is correct than the rookies are screwed having both noami and devyn...am 99.9% sure they will lose every mission because of them[/QUOTE]
Definitely exaggerating here. Devyn isn't anywhere near that bad and if she were to work out more regularly would be solid. Besides, she brings the laughs which I'm going to need with same of the people on this cast.
[COLOR=#222222][FONT=Times][QUOTE=Desertpuma;338300]I thought Cooke went pro in the States...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I too have a feeling some of us jumped the gun on that one.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Lola88;338304]Aneesa, Swift, Ty, Heather, and Dustin are the ones to look out for. The last Rookie girl spot will be the hardest to find. Unless Kenzie had her bf but that pic up from this weekend on Instagram, which is unlikely[/QUOTE]
Heather tweeted last night.
And someone said Dustin said he wouldn't do a challenge without her.
If this is Rookies vs Veterans then the Rookies are screwed because all the girls except maybe Nany and Cooke all suck and the Veteran girls are stacked. As for the guys in my opinion it looks like both sets of Rookie guys and Veteran guys look about even.
[QUOTE=V1man;338309]You are grossly misinformed.
- Both individuals were named in the original civil suit, so there was a "case against them."
- They would have to have been charged criminally in Thailand.
- Tonya didn't learn of what had happened to her during the Ruins until months after returning from the challenge taping. An attorney was then sought who began looking into the case, additional attorneys with appropriate California labor and entertainment law experience were then brought in to review and expand the investigation, and a case was filed in 2010 under Calif law law.
- Yes, the two were on Rivals, but that decision was made long before any depositions of witnesses were taken in the case, where under oath facts would then become known to BMP and MTV.
Now you know some facts, many more are available via the California court documents filed in the case.[/QUOTE]
I did say "as far as I know", never claimed I knew anything definitivly and was hoping for more information which it seems you have provided. What was the outcome of the case? And who were the cast members that told Tonya about what (allegedly)happened? It seems crazy none of the production staff would have seen or heard about it while filming
[QUOTE=KingKenny;338319]I did say "as far as I know", never claimed I knew anything definitivly and was hoping for more information which it seems you have provided. What was the outcome of the case? And who were the cast members that told Tonya about what (allegedly)happened? It seems crazy none of the production staff would have seen or heard about it while filming[/QUOTE]
I don't have specific details but I would guess production may not have known about it first hand as it could have happened on the one day a week that production gets a day off.
[QUOTE=CherryPie;338188]For some reason I can't upload pics for the life of me, I'll figure it out in a bit.
Anyway @TyrieBMTV is the real account, @TyrieBallardMTV is a fake. [[URL="https://twitter.com/TyrieBallardMTV/status/170267810428227585"]x[/URL]]
You said you were new to Twitter so I'll explain: @TyrieBMTV tweeted at TyrieBallardMTV calling him out on the fact that he didn't even write like him. TyrieBallardMTV said he was gonna turn his page into a fan page.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for clearing that up for me...I'm a novice with twitter....
[QUOTE=Snake19;338232]I don't get the excitement over Coral, I love old Vets but I don't think she would help in the final. I'm tired of a final team not being competitive. How many times has the bad *** or vet team (usually the same people) lost because of a weak player? I don't think the other teams ever win by being superior[/QUOTE]
Coral is pure entertainment, always has been, always will be :)
[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;338233]I agree. Then again, I have a brash "stop *****ing" mentality.
We don't know. No one here is personal friends with them.
Coral is the host for the Portland after shows, so I'm sure she is a no.[/QUOTE]
That means nothing....half the Portland cast is rumored to be on the show.
[QUOTE=Snake19;338240]I think the house will be fine without Coral providing entertainment, I'm sure CT/Frank/Wes will provide enough
[/QUOTE]
But Coral would provide good entertainment...that would be the difference :frog: :playful:
[QUOTE=ColiesMom;338293]I can neither confirm or deny...But if I were to guess I would say your spot on![/QUOTE]
I think you're holding out on us and Colie is actually making a grand surprise return :D (dreamland again...)
[QUOTE=V1man;338309]You are grossly misinformed.
- Both individuals were named in the original civil suit, so there was a "case against them."
- They would have to have been charged criminally in Thailand.
- Tonya didn't learn of what had happened to her during the Ruins until months after returning from the challenge taping. An attorney was then sought who began looking into the case, additional attorneys with appropriate California labor and entertainment law experience were then brought in to review and expand the investigation, and a case was filed in 2010 under Calif law law.
- Yes, the two were on Rivals, but that decision was made long before any depositions of witnesses were taken in the case, where under oath facts would then become known to BMP and MTV.
Now you know some facts, many more are available via the California court documents filed in the case.[/QUOTE]
I doubt she would or they would but any chance if she was interested BMP would ever have her back on the show? I highly doubt it, but just curious.
Hey Guys just wantd to add a few things...first i would def add emily s as in due to advice of two people who would know and have insider info. Second jsut wanted to clarify that i see a lot of posts that we got our cast purely from last time of tweets. while that is a good starting point, no one was confirmed purely on that and absence on twitter. However if they have posts about winning money or people posting on instagrams go win or good luck o the challenge, i mean what more proof do you need. Same with facebook. Just like when the eimination spoiler list is put together, molds would post that so and so sent her a screenshot here and so we know they went home. It's the same concept just heading to the challlenge, rather than leaving. Plus a lot of challenges are put together with people wiht pasts hookups/histories so if one is confirmed odds would say to check people on their history of drama timeliness and see their updates.
Is the list 100 percent correct, no of course not. i'd say it's close and the addition 3-4 we couldn't find. but it wasn't blinding choosing based on lack of tweeting, just wanted to clarify and anyone on the ride of the 50 plus pages in finding them, knows that. Thanks and can't wait to hear if any surprise names make it on for remaining slots.This vets team to me is the new era version of the vets, not a real "vet" team of the whole challenges history. Putting the best vets (record wise) and fan voting wise from the last 20 yrs together to face a rookie team would be a blowout.
[QUOTE=CherryPie;338316][COLOR=#222222][FONT=Times]
Yeah, I too have a feeling some of us jumped the gun on that one.[/FONT][/COLOR].[/QUOTE]
Or you didn't. Knowing when her training season starts might be useful to know in your reasoning process.
[QUOTE=KingKenny;338319]I did say "as far as I know", never claimed I knew anything definitivly and was hoping for more information which it seems you have provided. What was the outcome of the case? And who were the cast members that told Tonya about what (allegedly)happened? It seems crazy none of the production staff would have seen or heard about it while filming[/QUOTE]
Noted...but following your comment ("as far as I know"), you did state things that appear to reflect your view of Tonya's character and motivation.
The case was settled between the parties and presented to the court. The outcome of civil matters like this are often closed/sealed from public view in the interests of one or more parties as a condition of the agreement. We are unlikely to ever know details of the settlement, which is fine with me.
Perhaps it seemed crazy to Tonya's lawyers as well that production knew nothing, but in that regard, you might be only reading the press comments from MTV. It the court filing, the claim was made that if something did, in fact, happened, then Tonya brought it on herself.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;338321]I don't have specific details but I would guess production may not have known about it first hand as it could have happened on the one day a week that production gets a day off.[/QUOTE]
My understanding is that even security cameras operate on those days, but I know nothing of the depositions that were given which would likely answer your question.
[QUOTE=Psy4potato;338323]
I doubt she would or they would but any chance if she was interested BMP would ever have her back on the show? I highly doubt it, but just curious.[/QUOTE]
That ship has sailed.
We are way off topic, sorry all.
[QUOTE=Kajun;338306]Devyn isn't that bad. Brooklyn won missions and had Devyn....she held her own in eliminations too. [B]Disapointed in the cast. Feels like MTV put no effort into it, was hoping for atleast one or two decent surprises and we got zero[/B].[/QUOTE]
I'm sure that if big names were available and wanted to be apart of this season, that BMP would have cast them. I'm just hoping that a format wouldn't get in the way of casting our favorites, Like Exes or Rivals.
If less and less people want to do challenges, I'm afraid they will do another FreshMeat! I hope they never do another. Instead just do a Road Rules.
[QUOTE=smithb12;338331]I'm sure that if big names were available and wanted to be apart of this season, that BMP would have cast them. I'm just hoping that a format wouldn't get in the way of casting our favorites, Like Exes or Rivals.
If less and less people want to do challenges, I'm afraid they will do another FreshMeat! I hope they never do another. Instead just do a Road Rules.[/QUOTE]
Doubt it. They could have done better. I think every season they should have a couple random old schoolers. Even if they aren't popular. There is no casting diversity on this. It was a real weak effort. It seems real last minute, lets get the most desperate people possible whose lives revolve around this show and lets just go.
[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;338317]If this is Rookies vs Veterans then the Rookies are screwed because all the girls except maybe Nany and Cooke all suck and the Veteran girls are stacked. As for the guys in my opinion it looks like both sets of Rookie guys and Veteran guys look about even.[/QUOTE]
The Veteran girls are not stacked by any means. Camila and Sarah are the only truly strong females there. You have Paula, Jasmine, and Trishelle. Not stacked at all. The Portland girls appear to be athletic as well.
[QUOTE=Kajun;338332]Doubt it. They could have done better. I think every season they should have a couple random old schoolers. Even if they aren't popular. There is no casting diversity on this. It was a real weak effort. It seems real last minute, lets get the most desperate people possible whose lives revolve around this show and lets just go.[/QUOTE]
It seems like it's more an issue of availability these days. Most random old schoolers are past the challenges now, whereas doing appearances and getting money that way was a way of life - they've attained some fulfillment now in their lives with jobs or kids. You take what you can get, and if it's Johnny, Paula, CT - I don't mind, they're proven entertainment.
Anyway, I think now the hardest part comes in monitoring who goes home and when. Yikes.
Jessica doesn't appear athletic at all lol, I don't really see how Anastasia is either. She's just skinny. Who knows though, and who knows what the challenges are going to be.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;338333]The Veteran girls are not stacked by any means. Camila and Sarah are the only truly strong females there. You have Paula, Jasmine, and Trishelle. Not stacked at all. The Portland girls appear to be athletic as well.[/QUOTE]
True, but another element in this is experienced. Those veteran girls, all of them, are seasoned. They've done this before, they know what to prepare for, and that helps a lot in these challenges. The only thing that will hurt them are alliances, and I don't see that happening.
[QUOTE=Kajun;338335]Jessica doesn't appear athletic at all lol, I don't really see how Anastasia is either. She's just skinny. Who knows though, and who knows what the challenges are going to be.[/QUOTE]
The early pictures I saw from them made them look athletic, but I could be wrong.
[QUOTE=Kajun;338335]Jessica doesn't appear athletic at all lol, I don't really see how Anastasia is either. She's just skinny. Who knows though, and who knows what the challenges are going to be.[/QUOTE]
lol yeah gotta love MTV...from Portland cast you got Avery who played basketball and volleyball, Joi who played basketball, Nia who played college volleyball....so naturally they select Anastasia and Jessica who are both aspiring models...
Info from [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_World:_Portland]The Real World: Portland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]
[QUOTE=KingKenny;338339]lol yeah gotta love MTV...from Portland cast you got Avery who played basketball and volleyball, Joi who played basketball, Nia who played college volleyball....so naturally they select Anastasia and Jessica who are both aspiring models...
Info from [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_World:_Portland]The Real World: Portland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url][/QUOTE]
Models are more likely to be on to help out a new career. A lot of models start off unknown, having the challenge on a resume would help with being a model or a movie extra which usually go hand in hand.
On topic though, I think we've pretty much found the obvious cast members. Hopefully molds gives us the real list soon along with the format then we can start looking for people returning
yeah I understand that "aspiring models" and reality shows go together like frank and alchol induced rage but I guess part of me still has hope each season that a show based on physical and mental competiton would choose the best available physical and mental players...maybe they will surprise us though
[ATTACH]1658[/ATTACH]People were back adn forth about Dustin, appears he is out...15 hrs ago he won two beer pong matches against someone who is not on the challenge. So i don't see how that would work with him being overseas....People said they thought he was out just because Heather was, that confirms he's out to me. I'd love to have seen him however with frank again. He seemed like an obvious choice with Nany there too.
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