[QUOTE=ellethevegan;336566]also is it possible to have someone post the list of people speculated.. there has been so much chat since last seen the list of people does someone know the full list?
Like who we think/know for sure who will be there based of tweets and instagrams and facebooks...
And then the people we just assuming?
[B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=5]Im getting confused by all the names being thrown out.[/SIZE][/FONT][/B]. like Latoya, Beth, Cameran <3, and Mallory...
Hope that's not asking to much :)[/QUOTE]
Well, if you check the title of this thread, you will realize that many posts in this thread are generally pointless, and perhaps are intentionally so.
Veronica is not a good physical competitor. She's just okay. She's very overrated because people love her and she's old school. Physically, not happening.
[QUOTE=Lola88;336570]Veronica is not a good physical competitor. She's just okay. She's very overrated because people love her and she's old school. Physically, not happening.[/QUOTE]
I think she is a better competitor than you think. Tina, on the other hand, was not as good a competitor. She even got called out for it on Inferno 2 by Veronica. Her and Rachel both knew they could not rely on Tonya but they expected Tina to pull her own weight. Both Tonya and Tina had to be carried by either CT or Abe for part of their 5K run in the Final.
[QUOTE=Kajun;336508]Cara Maria isnt that strong to me, don't get how she deserves a win? She is also annoying and whiney. Sarah does have bad luck with teammates, but I don't get her appeal. Shes 100000% better than Camila, Jonna, Ashley, Paula, and Laura.[/QUOTE]
How are Ashley and Laura even looked at so negatively by yourself? They're boring, but that is no reason to look down at them so much. I actually wouldn't mind seeing Ashley again. Ew at Camila and Jonna put in the same category as Paula. At this point, you should probably just stop watching because the cast will most likely never be your cup of tea.
[QUOTE=ellethevegan;336566]also is it possible to have someone post the list of people speculated.. there has been so much chat since last seen the list of people does someone know the full list?
Like who we think/know for sure who will be there based of tweets and instagrams and facebooks...
And then the people we just assuming?
Im getting confused by all the names being thrown out.. like Latoya, Beth, Cameran <3, and Mallory...
Hope that's not asking to much :)[/QUOTE]
Cameran and Mallory aren't speculated. Mallory has shown interest in doing a challenge and Cameran was apparently almost on the last challenge so they are just hopes. However we are required to see Sarah, Camila, Cara Maria, and Paula again for the 400077th time and Ashley, Laura, and Jonna have to return to show off their ever so amazing and interesting personalities.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;336573]How are Ashley and Laura even looked at so negatively by yourself? They're boring, but that is no reason to look down at them so much. I actually wouldn't mind seeing Ashley again. Ew at Camila and Jonna put in the same category as Paula. At this point, you should probably just stop watching because the cast will most likely never be your cup of tea.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for your input. We all have different opinions on who sucks and who is great. Personally I just think all of the above people suck, except Ashley she's just a dumb casting choice to me. All my opinions are reflections of how I see them on the show based on their edit not based on their everyday real life. People take it way to serious, get over it. They put themselves on TV and I can have any kind of opinion I would like. People take things to serious here. I am quite aware me and the casting team are nowhere near on the same level and the challenge will never be as great as it once was. There's a handful of people I really like that are rumored to be on the next challenge so I will watch for them, if the shows not good then I won't.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;336571]I think she is a better competitor than you think. Tina, on the other hand, was not as good a competitor. She even got called out for it on Inferno 2 by Veronica. Her and Rachel both knew they could not rely on Tonya but they expected Tina to pull her own weight. Both Tonya and Tina had to be carried by either CT or Abe for part of their 5K run in the Final.[/QUOTE]
Running is a big part of challenges now, but back then that was a rarity. Tonya got 10x better after that challenge and could whoop up on Veronica. I think all of the inferno 2 good girls except Shavonda could have taken Verinica in a physical 1 on 1. And on the Ruins Veronica was one of the weak girls on her team. Evelyn, Tonya, Susie and Johanna all performed better than her. I understand why people like her, but as a competitor she's average at best.
[QUOTE=Lola88;336576]Running is a big part of challenges now, but back then that was a rarity. Tonya got 10x better after that challenge and could whoop up on Veronica. I think all of the inferno 2 good girls except Shavonda could have taken Verinica in a physical 1 on 1. And on the Ruins Veronica was one of the weak girls on her team. Evelyn, Tonya, Susie and Johanna all performed better than her. I understand why people like her, but as a competitor she's average at best.[/QUOTE]
They knew that the Final would involved running, they always have. The Finals have gotten much more intense over the past few seasons, but running was always a huge factor in them.
[QUOTE=RWRRdude;336562]Like two weeks ago, I saw Noor at Target with a group of athletes (soccer team, I think.) When the cashier asked him if he was from FM2, he responded with such arrogance, "F*** man, yeah." His response sounded like he regretted doing FM2.[/QUOTE]
He was boring anyway
I'd say the locks for this one are Johnny, Tyler, CT, Wes, Chet, Dunbar, Leroy, Diem, Paula, Sarah, Trishelle, Camila, Emily S, Jonna as far as vets go. Thats 14 vets and Gauntlet 3 was 16 so theres still prolly 2 more to come. SLEEPERS for the last 2 slots are Coral, Kenny, Cara, Evan, and Jenn.
As far as rookies go its Frank, Zach, Robb, Trey, Knight, Marlon, Jordan, Nany, Naomi, Ashley, Jemmye, Jessica, Anastasia, and Laura. Thats 14 for rooks. SLEEPERS for the last 2 slots are Marie, Latoya, and Swift.
[QUOTE=Reily Man;336581]I'd say the locks for this one are Johnny, Tyler, CT, Wes, Chet, Dunbar, Leroy, Diem, Paula, Sarah, Trishelle, Camila, Emily S, Jonna as far as vets go. Thats 14 vets and Gauntlet 3 was 16 so theres still prolly 2 more to come. SLEEPERS for the last 2 slots are Coral, Kenny, Cara, Evan, and Jenn.
As far as rookies go its Frank, Zach, Robb, Trey, Knight, Marlon, Jordan, Nany, Naomi, Ashley, Jemmye, Jessica, Anastasia, and Laura. Thats 14 for rooks. SLEEPERS for the last 2 slots are Marie, Latoya, and Swift.[/QUOTE]
I rather have Averey/Johnny and Joi represent Portland and I really hope Isaac is on. I lost hope for Adam,Dustin and Ty but still hoping they turn up ith Devyn.
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;336585]Averey/Johnny? ****. I can't stand those 2. Shame because she'd be better without him.[/QUOTE]
How do you even know them their season hasn't even aired. You really "can't stand" these people you've only seen commercials for? I understand if you know them personally but come on. haha
[QUOTE=Reily Man;336581]I'd say the locks for this one are Johnny, Tyler, CT, Wes, Chet, Dunbar, Leroy, Diem, Paula, Sarah, Trishelle, Camila, Emily S, Jonna as far as vets go. Thats 14 vets and Gauntlet 3 was 16 so theres still prolly 2 more to come. SLEEPERS for the last 2 slots are Coral, Kenny, Cara, Evan, and Jenn.
As far as rookies go its [B]Frank, Zach, Robb, Trey[/B], Knight, Marlon, Jordan, Nany, Naomi, [B]Ashley[/B], Jemmye, Jessica, Anastasia, and [B]Laura[/B]. Thats 14 for rooks. SLEEPERS for the last 2 slots are [B]Marie, Latoya, and Swift[/B].[/QUOTE]
While I do hope that Swift will be on this challenge more than Robb, I think BMP/MTV is surely making a huge risk here. At least half of the rookie team is build up with real Worlders whose season had really bad ratings. They wont bring any new viewers in.
[QUOTE=GDInstall;336589]While I do hope that Swift will be on this challenge more than Robb, I think BMP/MTV is surely making a huge risk here. At least half of the rookie team is build up with real Worlders whose season had really bad ratings. They wont bring any new viewers in.[/QUOTE]
Some people are completely different on the Challenge than they are on the Real World. Sometimes it is good to experiment how they are with a completely different environment.
[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;336590]Some people are completely different on the Challenge than they are on the Real World. Sometimes it is good to experiment how they are with a completely different environment.[/QUOTE]
But Ashley and Laura proved last season that they are still boring on the challenge.
[QUOTE=gamer73;336592]But Ashley and Laura proved last season that they are still boring on the challenge.[/QUOTE]
Maybe they don't explode like Frank or Nany, but they're not terrible competitors. Not everyone watches for the drama - that's what the Real World is.
Just my opinion.
[QUOTE=gamer73;336592]But Ashley and Laura proved last season that they are still boring on the challenge.[/QUOTE]
Not everyone is entertaining on their first challenge. Let's take Tina for example. She was pretty much "just there" on the Gauntlet and we didn't really get to see the REAL Tina we loved until her second challenge, BOTSexes 2. The Veronica we all came to love didn't really come out until The Gauntlet/The Inferno, her 4th and 5th challenges.
Not everyone has to explode on their first challenge in order to be good television. I think it's also worth noting that, on a poll on MTV's website, Laura was the most popular cast member among the St. Thomas cast. That's probably why they want her back: ratings. Although with Ashley, I don't think she'd been asked back if it weren't for the BOTS concept; I felt she was the most boring cast member on B2San Diego. However, she did win last time and I guess she does have something to prove.
[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;336590]Some people are completely different on the Challenge than they are on the Real World. Sometimes it is good to experiment how they are with a completely different environment.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, it's a huge risk, because they already participed on one challenge and even the challenge got no good ratings. Frank for exemple can't change how he is, so he will always wants to be in the spotlight and wont back down for any fight. And people are already treat him like he is some type of disease for the ratings and just there for attention.
Zach/Ashley/Laura/Robb are/were there for either the challenge itself or for the fun/experience. They wont change that. Even the love-story with Jonna was put in the background for the most part, because Zach doesnt wanted cameras around him all the time. Ashley/Laura and Robb were barely seen on BOTS. I dont think they will change their personality now and even want attention like Frank.
[QUOTE=GDInstall;336589]While I do hope that Swift will be on this challenge more than Robb, I think BMP/MTV is surely making a huge risk here. At least half of the rookie team is build up with real Worlders whose season had really bad ratings. They wont bring any new viewers in.[/QUOTE]
Your first sentence and 2nd sentence are completely at odds with each other. Do you really think that people watched St. Thomas because of Swift? No, he was more boring that Trey. That would be like watching BOTS2 because of JD, it just makes no sense. Robb, on the other hand, not only brought in alcohol drama, he brought in relationship drama, etc.
People always like to say that "San Diego had bad ratings, and so did BOTS2, IT'S ALL FRANK'S FAULT!!". In reality, you have to look at the cast as a whole. San Diego had Alexandra, who, from what I've seen on TV, is a truly amazing person, but a boring cast member, Priscilla who was 19, Sam....boring, Zach and Ashley did nothing but work out that season. Nate and Frank were the only two interesting people on that show.
[QUOTE=Marmk122;336598]Your first sentence and 2nd sentence are completely at odds with each other. Do you really think that people watched St. Thomas because of Swift? No, he was more boring that Trey. That would be like watching BOTS2 because of JD, it just makes no sense. Robb, on the other hand, not only brought in alcohol drama, he brought in relationship drama, etc.[/QUOTE]
Swift also brought relationship drama with LaToya. Basically, the whole St. Thomas cast brought relationship drama, Trey and Laura. Only Brandon didn't bring relationship drama.
[QUOTE=Marmk122;336598]Your first sentence and 2nd sentence are completely at odds with each other. Do you really think that people watched St. Thomas because of Swift? No, he was more boring that Trey. That would be like watching BOTS2 because of JD, it just makes no sense. Robb, on the other hand, not only brought in alcohol drama, he brought in relationship drama, etc. [/QUOTE]
I was talking about the next challenge in particular. A lot of castmembers like Robb now, so he wont get into any trouble or fights without alcohol. Swift doesnt need alcohol to get angry or in drama really fast, because he's a very close friend of Trey and dont liked it how he was treated on BOTS2 from Frank/Zach, he was put in jail (some sort of publicity), rumors are that Swift didnt treat women well (Hook-up argument) and that he likes men more than women and both rumors he completly denied it. I can definitely see that some veterans/rookies will scratch him on that. Robb was really barely seen on BOTS and I believe that he wont change his personality, so he wont bring anything interesting to the table which results into ratings. I see more potential in Swift here.
I am willing to give girls like Laura and Ashley a chance and even McKenzie to see what they can bring to the table, you can't just judge off their first one. Emily is "boring" but a good competitor and should return every time no matter how much of a wallpaper she may be. It's not all about drama.
On the guys side... I'm not bothered by "boring" members like Robb, Tyrie or JD at all.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;336604]I am willing to give girls like Laura and Ashley a chance and even McKenzie to see what they can bring to the table, you can't just judge off their first one. Emily is "boring" but a good competitor and should return every time no matter how much of a wallpaper she may be. It's not all about drama.[/QUOTE]
It is interesting considering the fact of her black chocolate face which costed tone of drama!
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