The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

Phew! We might get Laura! Awesome!!! Because 5 people from 2 horribly rated seasons and a horribly rated challenge wasn't enough.

[QUOTE=V1man;336396]I love the title of this thread. BTW: Beth was contacted about a recent challenge, but she was unavailable. She did express interest in doing another, particularly a Duel format. Jillian has informed BMP that she has moved on. Evelyn is definitely finishing school this year and headed to law school, so she is unavailable (for the benefit of those thinking she would change her mind). So, there is one name you all can consider and two you can eliminate from possible consideration. As for those waiting for molds13, like me, she may have, for a number of reasons, generally lost interest in the challenges.[/QUOTE] Hmmmm... ;)

[QUOTE=Psy4potato;336391] Melinda showed some gusto in her elimination in cuthroat...I'd like to see her in a one on one elimination again. Lacey had great banter with Wes...would love to see her again if Wes is on this challenge. And one of my favorite edits of all time came from Shauvon when she was explaining that her implant popped to every single person in the house....lol[/QUOTE] Ya some of the rookies surprised me like Mike and Leroy, they were a good addition to the show. Lacey was too, I thought she would be wallpaper but she was pretty outgoing and her and Wes' relationship is so cute, he seems to have a soft spot for some ppl. I kinda want Adam R on the show, just to see if he will be more well liked, Mike wasnt very well liked on RW, sometimes I thought he was being a ****** but on the challenge he was cool and I dont think Adam ever really got a chance. But if he is on bad terms with MTV then ok, I didnt like him but he was part of the reason RW LV had high ratings, unlike the current RWs and the boring ppl being included on the show.

Good. I rather not see Evelyn anymore. With Jillian she became more and more bitter as time went on so yeah. I still like her though.

[QUOTE=Kajun;336412]Phew! We might get Laura! Awesome!!! Because 5 people from 2 horribly rated seasons and a horribly rated challenge wasn't enough.[/QUOTE] BOTSeasons may have been rated bad but that doesn't mean it wasn't good....

[QUOTE=Reily Man;336402] Kenny or Evan.[/QUOTE] That would be a big mistake for BMP/MTV, and they know why.

Honestly, I think Evan would be the bigger mistake. Kenny is better when Evan is not around as it is.

Maybe not to you, but to the general public Battle of the Seasons was not a great season, that's why the ratings were bad. I am obviously a huge fan of the challenges, so I like to talk to my friends about the show when it's on. Majority of my friends who are casual fans of the show quit watching after Austin left because they didn't know or like any of the newer people. When I initially saw the cast I was more excited abou this challenge than I have been in a long, long time. Sydney backing out and being replaced by the worst case scenario (for me) Fresh Meat, and the 4 worst possible options at that. Then Austin went first and for me the challenge went downhill super fast after that. The only reason I finished watching was because of Trishelle. I think BMP/MTV really needs to rethink their casting strategy for these challenges. They need to learn to balance it to keep multiple audiences interested. I think at most they should have 5 from the past three seasons of the Real World (Portland included) to appease the FEW new generation of fans who actually watched the past two horrific seasons. Not the rumored 10, that is absolutely ridiculous. Six people from 2 failed seasons is pure stupidity. And they (supposedly) don't even have Nia who they are banking on to redeem their show. They have the 2 most likely irrelevant females of the season. As much as I hate the JEK/Paula crew it is probably smart to have a couple of them mixed with CT, Diem, and Wes who are extremely popular to the casual challenge fans. So they atleast seemed to get that right. They need more old school, Trishelle types to bring back people who have tuned out. Bringing back Tina, Coral, and a couple of ACTUAL old schoolers would be genius. And instead of adding idiots who have never even appeared on the show (Camila) give us ACTUAL RW/RR people like Raquel, Kendal, Ashli, Cameran, or whoever else might be willing that we haven't seen ever or in years to give fresh faces that are still relevant to the show.

[QUOTE=V1man;336419]That would be a big mistake for BMP/MTV, and they know why.[/QUOTE] Because of the whole Tonya situation? I hate Kenny and Evan (mainly Evan) but they are popular to the fans and majority of the fans don't know the Tonya situation so it wouldn't be a huge deal just like bringing CT back. He tried to kill Adam but the fans love him or hate to love him.

[QUOTE=Desertpuma;336420]Honestly, I think Evan would be the bigger mistake. Kenny is better when Evan is not around as it is.[/QUOTE] In my world that would be Evan. Kenny knows what he does and how he does it. By the way, "can you never where those pants again." lol.

I don't recall there being a lawsuit for when CT hit Adam. Additionally, CT had pent up anger from his brother being murdered and Adam just happened to be the one he hit. It could have been anyone that CT thought was talking **** and he later apologized. It was probably a year or two later but he did apologize. They've put it behind them. Evan crosses the line more than they show because he thinks he can get away with it. Kenny just gets drafted in and shouldn't go along with it but does. To put it another way, Evan wears the pants in that bromance.

[QUOTE=Kajun;336422]Maybe not to you, but to the general public Battle of the Seasons was not a great season, that's why the ratings were bad. I am obviously a huge fan of the challenges, so I like to talk to my friends about the show when it's on. Majority of my friends who are casual fans of the show quit watching after Austin left because they didn't know or like any of the newer people. When I initially saw the cast I was more excited abou this challenge than I have been in a long, long time. Sydney backing out and being replaced by the worst case scenario (for me) Fresh Meat, and the 4 worst possible options at that. Then Austin went first and for me the challenge went downhill super fast after that. The only reason I finished watching was because of Trishelle. I think BMP/MTV really needs to rethink their casting strategy for these challenges. They need to learn to balance it to keep multiple audiences interested. I think at most they should have 5 from the past three seasons of the Real World (Portland included) to appease the FEW new generation of fans who actually watched the past two horrific seasons. Not the rumored 10, that is absolutely ridiculous. Six people from 2 failed seasons is pure stupidity. And they (supposedly) don't even have Nia who they are banking on to redeem their show. They have the 2 most likely irrelevant females of the season. As much as I hate the JEK/Paula crew it is probably smart to have a couple of them mixed with CT, Diem, and Wes who are extremely popular to the casual challenge fans. So they atleast seemed to get that right. They need more old school, Trishelle types to bring back people who have tuned out. Bringing back Tina, Coral, and a couple of ACTUAL old schoolers would be genius. And instead of adding idiots who have never even appeared on the show (Camila) give us ACTUAL RW/RR people like Raquel, Kendal, Ashli, Cameran, or whoever else might be willing that we haven't seen ever or in years to give fresh faces that are still relevant to the show.[/QUOTE] Yeah I'm not gonna lie Kajun but FM 2 being there other than Brandon made my stomach sink and my lunch come up. I still think that ratings don't equate to the content of the show.

[QUOTE=Desertpuma;336425]I don't recall there being a lawsuit for when CT hit Adam. Additionally, CT had pent up anger from his brother being murdered and Adam just happened to be the one he hit. It could have been anyone that CT thought was talking **** and he later apologized. It was probably a year or two later but he did apologize. They've put it behind them. Evan crosses the line more than they show because he thinks he can get away with it. Kenny just gets drafted in and shouldn't go along with it but does. To put it another way, Evan wears the pants in that bromance.[/QUOTE] Well to be honest, yes, Adam is short and CT not that much taller but had Adam sued CT that would've been a punk *** move more than what he said to Leah in Paris 1. Random I know but its true. Adam nor CT would've wanted to go through that plus the two I hope and by the way it seems were in different places on Rivals.

[QUOTE=Lola88;336404]The veteran male is probably Ty. The vet female is a toss up between Theresa, Mandi, Cara Maria, Coral or Melinda. The rookie male probably between Nate and Swift. The rookie females are between Marie, McKenzie, Ayiiia, and Sahar.[/QUOTE] I have severe doubts that it will be Sahar. She's currently enrolled in the school that I used to go to, University of Michigan-Dearborn.

What makes us think that Nany will be on this, again? I mean beside the fact that she is totally up for making [I]The Challenge[/I] her main source of income for the next decade or so....? [ATTACH]1460[/ATTACH]

[QUOTE=Lola88;336404]The veteran male is probably Ty. The vet female is a toss up between Theresa, Mandi, Cara Maria, Coral or Melinda. The rookie male probably between Nate and Swift. The rookie females are between Marie, McKenzie, Ayiiia, and Sahar.[/QUOTE] By probably, do you mean you totally just made that up based on your random guesses.

[QUOTE=Lola88;336404]The veteran male is probably Ty. The vet female is a toss up between Theresa, Mandi, Cara Maria, Coral or Melinda. The rookie male probably between Nate and Swift. The rookie females are between Marie, McKenzie, Ayiiia, and Sahar.[/QUOTE] I really hope it is Theresa, Swift, and Ayiiia.

[QUOTE=Kajun;336423][B]Because of the whole Tonya situation? I hate Kenny and Evan (mainly Evan) but they are popular to the fans and majority of the fans don't know the Tonya situation so it wouldn't be a huge deal just like bringing CT back.[/B][/QUOTE] One word: Liablity. It has nothing to do with popularity. If either were cast, I would expect the resulting insurance premium to be just about unaffordable, even with VIACOM's deep pockets.

[QUOTE=Youssarian;336405]I feel like most of you are just throwing out random names without any concrete proof. Before you come up with people out of the blue, I think you should have some sort of proof - a tweet, a Facebook comment, [I]something [/I]​valid.[/QUOTE] I guess you missed the title of this thread. It's not a official or spoiler thread. Some people take things too seriously.

Well according to her twitter Laura went to LA to today. Is there now. Here is her twitter page @LauraLeeMTV: 💉😭😲 @LauraLeeMTV: I'm baaaaaaack! Did you miss me LA?! ;)

[QUOTE=Nostalgic;336418]BOTSeasons may have been rated bad but that doesn't mean it wasn't good....[/QUOTE] I'm still kinda surprised at how bad BOTS2 did. They had 2 of the coolest concepts back to back (Rivals, Exes) that both did well in ratings, then they followed it by a really bad one. I think they dropped the ball last year and need to pick it back up on this next one. I'm not sure they can afford 2 terrible seasons in a row.

You probably never saw the first BOTSEeasons then because the concept was not bad. Yes, Rivals and the exes thing sucked. That should've been a side project and the cast on there was very aggravating.

1. Ayiiia, Sahar and Katie are currently enrolled in school. The spring semester have like one more month left. As far that I know none of them have dropped it: Sahar have a picture of herself studying from last week, Ayiiia tweeted that she ditched school last week on her birthday and Katie wrote about studying on Facebook last week. 2. I doubt Rachel and Robin are on it. Rachel got married and according to Robin she is getting married this Friday. I doubt they are going to leave there wife/husband for a challenge so soon. I think Prisilla from San Diego took this semester off , if I am not wrong she wrote it on Facebook a while back. Does anyone know if the svetlana twitter is real? She tweeted about being in new York. I hope that Mallory, Ashley (DC) , Brittany or Averey are on it.

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[QUOTE=Kajun;336422]Maybe not to you, but to the general public Battle of the Seasons was not a great season, that's why the ratings were bad. I am obviously a huge fan of the challenges, so I like to talk to my friends about the show when it's on. Majority of my friends who are casual fans of the show quit watching after Austin left because they didn't know or like any of the newer people. When I initially saw the cast I was more excited abou this challenge than I have been in a long, long time. Sydney backing out and being replaced by the worst case scenario (for me) Fresh Meat, and the 4 worst possible options at that. Then Austin went first and for me the challenge went downhill super fast after that. The only reason I finished watching was because of Trishelle. I think BMP/MTV really needs to rethink their casting strategy for these challenges. They need to learn to balance it to keep multiple audiences interested. I think at most they should have 5 from the past three seasons of the Real World (Portland included) to appease the FEW new generation of fans who actually watched the past two horrific seasons. Not the rumored 10, that is absolutely ridiculous. Six people from 2 failed seasons is pure stupidity. And they (supposedly) don't even have Nia who they are banking on to redeem their show. They have the 2 most likely irrelevant females of the season. As much as I hate the JEK/Paula crew it is probably smart to have a couple of them mixed with CT, Diem, and Wes who are extremely popular to the casual challenge fans. So they atleast seemed to get that right. They need more old school, Trishelle types to bring back people who have tuned out. Bringing back Tina, Coral, and a couple of ACTUAL old schoolers would be genius. And instead of adding idiots who have never even appeared on the show (Camila) give us ACTUAL RW/RR people like Raquel, Kendal, Ashli, Cameran, or whoever else might be willing that we haven't seen ever or in years to give fresh faces that are still relevant to the show.[/QUOTE] Amen to all of this. My main reason for watching last season was for Trishelle & Alton and Devyn's commentary. I started liking a few newbies like Trey, Nany, & Dustin, but once Austin left I wasn't as thrilled with the season...I just kept hoping Alton would get sent in again Frank and Zach and take them both out. A well balanced cast with a few newbies each time is what they need, not 1/2 newbies there from the start.

[QUOTE=Pinky;336440]I doubt they are going to leave there wife/husband for a challenge so soon.[/QUOTE] You'd be surprised especially IF they were/or were to become a ********* and that's in general. As for Svetlana's twitter being real? It's about as real as silicone. [QUOTE=Psy4potato;336442]Amen to all of this. My main reason for watching last season was for Trishelle & Alton and Devyn's commentary. I started liking a few newbies like Trey, Nany, & Dustin, but once Austin left I wasn't as thrilled with the season...I just kept hoping Alton would get sent in again Frank and Zach and take them both out. A well balanced cast with a few newbies each time is what they need, not 1/2 newbies there from the start.[/QUOTE] I can't believe this Austin stan and people leaving because of them? Like is this real life?

[QUOTE=V1man;336432]One word: Liablity. It has nothing to do with popularity. If either were cast, I would expect the resulting insurance premium to be just about unaffordable, even with VIACOM's deep pockets.[/QUOTE] CT was a liability. Kenny and Evan aren't dumb enough to do what they did again on The Ruins if they really did it.

[QUOTE=V1man;336396]I love the title of this thread. BTW: Beth was contacted about a recent challenge, but she was unavailable. She did express interest in doing another, particularly a Duel format. Jillian has informed BMP that she has moved on. Evelyn is definitely finishing school this year and headed to law school, so she is unavailable (for the benefit of those thinking she would change her mind). So, there is one name you all can consider and two you can eliminate from possible consideration. As for those waiting for molds13, like me, she may have, for a number of reasons, generally lost interest in the challenges.[/QUOTE] So you are saying that Beth was contacted for this challenge and she wasn't available? Or that she was contacted before this one and show interest of doing another one?

Jessica is going back after the 21 to her home town to spend some time with her family for a few days. I think she is one of the Portland people that is gong to be on this challenge if nothing happened from here to departure date: [ATTACH]1467[/ATTACH]

I don't think there will be anyone from Portland on the show because they will want them promoting the show as it airs.