The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

[QUOTE=Lola88;336366]So "adding value" to challenges strictly means getting drunk and causing fights and being over-the-top dramatic or being extremely athletic? I'll take the McKenzies and Melinda's over the obnoxious drama queens like Jemmye and Jasmine any day if the week. A girl with beauty and brains is better than trashy alcoholics.[/QUOTE] Having a beautiful, smart girl on the show would be great, but it doesn't matter how beautiful or smart they are if we never see them.

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;336363]Assuming that list is correct, either Leroy's considered a vet OR they have 3 more vet guys coming in, presuming it's Rookies vs Vets[/QUOTE] I hope so. I want a huge cast list once again. [QUOTE=Lola88;336366]So "adding value" to challenges strictly means getting drunk and causing fights and being over-the-top dramatic or being extremely athletic? I'll take the McKenzies and Melinda's over the obnoxious drama queens like Jemmye and Jasmine any day if the week. A girl with beauty and brains is better than trashy alcoholics.[/QUOTE] I understand the Jasmine part but not the Jemmye. And Melinda barely did **** in the last 3 she did.

I'll just wait for Molds. I was on another board which I guess steals their info from here or collecting their own and they're posting a random made up list as well.

Looking at this made up list... there's at least three more spots open for possible challengers. However, I'd like to think that with a Vets/Rookies match up that there would be 32 cast members instead of 28. As far as the last vet girl goes, I see it going to either Melinda or Laurel. Laurel won the poll but Melinda did say that she had some good things going her way. I think Marie will be the last rookie girl; she did say that she would love to come on another challenge along with Jasmine and take out Jonna in an interview with Derrick. I'd like to think Derrick would be the last veteran male but who knows. He was "overlooked". I really hope to see Emily Schromm in the picture but I don't know if we will this time around, although MTV also admitted that she was overlooked along with Abram and Landon. I'm sure MTV would only want to have one of her or Laurel, but I feel Emily would be easier to cast due to Laurel's job commitments. Cast members in parentheses are just hypothesis, I have 8 per section just incase the cast is 32 people. Vets Johnny Tyler Wes CT Chet Leroy ??? (Derrick?) (Dunbar)? Paula Sarah Diem Jonna Trishelle Camila ??? (Melinda) (Emily/Laurel, leaning more towards Emily S.) Rookies Zach Frank Trey Robb Knight Jordan Marlon (I don't know who to put here. I'd love to see Kefla from Down Under!) Nany Naomi Ashley Jemmye Jessica Anastasia ???? (Marie) (Carley... please!)

Unless today's date is the 25th we should hold off on calling the list "made up"

I was OBSESSED with Kefla too so major cool points there.

I think it's a vets vs rookies challenge but for some reason I see MTV wanting Leroy on the team with the rooks. Leroy on that team of veterans they are just too stacked. However I woulda said the same thing about the ruins teams prior to them departing. If the rooks woulda just gotten rid of casey tho I really give them a chance the rest of the way because that final was a joke.

[QUOTE=eagles28;336365]I wasn't just talking about BOTS 2. I was talking about the Challenge franchise as a whole. Every season they have people who you know 100% will not win. I'm fine with those people being on the show, as long as they contribute SOMETHING to the show(fights, drama, good commentary or something!)Tyrie, Davis, Ayiiia, Emilee, Shauvon, McKenzie, Preston, Priscilla, Katelynn, J.D., Nick Brown, Danny, Lacey, Melinda, Naomi, Vinny. These are just people off the top of my head that have done recent challenges and add no real value to the show. Obviously this is all just my opinion though :)[/QUOTE] Shauvon, Katelynn, Naomi and Vinny all added at least a little something something to the mix. I don't know what they are expecting Priscilla to add to the series considering she was only there what 1 or 2 days same with Ayiiia. I wanted her to last longer though. I hated that season anyway tbh. I wanted Nick to last long on The Ruins but no such luck. Melinda and Danny alone didn't stand a chance so i agree there. Lacey was not her fault, but the fault of Wes's mouth. Emilee could've added a LITTLE bit though on Cutthroat. Come to think of it what did she do on Cancun besides jump around on the bed and kiss Ayiiia? JD made it to the end so, yeah.

If the did do an old vs new I'd give the rooks a chance. Old: Johnny, Tyler, CT, Wes, Chet, Dunbar, ?, ? New: Zach, Frank, Trey, Robb, Leroy, Knight, Marlon, and Jordan

[QUOTE=Lola88;336366][B]So "adding value" to challenges strictly means getting drunk and causing fights and being over-the-top dramatic or being extremely athletic?[/B] I'll take the McKenzies and Melinda's over the obnoxious drama queens like Jemmye and Jasmine any day if the week. A girl with beauty and brains is better than trashy alcoholics.[/QUOTE] Um...yes. This is a television show. McKenzie and Melinda didn't do anything. Notice I didn't add Ashley to that list though. She also wasn't shown much, (like McKenzie) but she seemed to be a good competitor (which McKenzie wasn't). They don't [I]have[I] to be "trashy alcoholics" but they have to keep my interest somehow. Once again, just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Nostalgic;336375]Shauvon, Katelynn, Naomi and Vinny all added at least a little something something to the mix. I don't know what they are expecting Priscilla to add to the series considering she was only there what 1 or 2 days same with Ayiiia. I wanted her to last longer though. I hated that season anyway tbh. I wanted Nick to last long on The Ruins but no such luck. Melinda and Danny alone didn't stand a chance so i agree there. Lacey was not her fault, but the fault of Wes's mouth. Emilee could've added a LITTLE bit though on Cutthroat. Come to think of it what did she do on Cancun besides jump around on the bed and kiss Ayiiia? JD made it to the end so, yeah.[/QUOTE] Also Priscilla didnt really participate in the challenge because Nate kept falling off the beam.

Article on MTV.com today about the upcoming RW marathon this weekend, Note the bolded part - we can't assume everyone in NYC tested and is on the challenge - they simply could have been filming for the marathon. [quote]First up will be that first New York season, followed by the unforgettable, sinful 12th season in Las Vegas and finishing up with the groundbreaking third season in San Francisco. The marathon will also feature exclusive sneak peeks of the new Portland cast, [B]along with insider commentary from [/B]"Jersey Shore" veteran Snooki, "Nikki & Sara Live" hosts Nikki Glaser and Sara Schaefer as well as a number of comedians, [B][/B][B]"Real World" and "Challenge" veterans about their favorite "World" moments.[/B] [/quote] [SIZE=1][I]Source: [url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1703848/retromtv-real-world-marathon.jhtml]'RetroMTV: The Real World' Marathon Kicks Off Friday! - Music, Celebrity, Artist News | MTV.com[/url][/I][/SIZE]

[QUOTE=jr588;336382]Article on MTV.com today about the upcoming RW marathon this weekend, Note the bolded part - we can't assume everyone in NYC tested and is on the challenge - they simply could have been filming for the marathon. [SIZE=1][I]Source: [URL="http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1703848/retromtv-real-world-marathon.jhtml"]'RetroMTV: The Real World' Marathon Kicks Off Friday! - Music, Celebrity, Artist News | MTV.com[/URL][/I][/SIZE][/QUOTE] I was thinking the exact same thing. Maybe some of these "speculated" people were in L.A/N.Y.C to be part of the interviews for the marathon. As far as we know, some of these people are nowhere near being on the next challenge. For some, I sure hope that is the case.

Looks like Emily took a quick trip to LA. Emily RW ‏@emilyschromm [ATTACH]1454[/ATTACH]

I don't really care about what the next format is, as long as it has nothing to do with pairs (or teams that split off into pairs, like the last challenge). I'm hoping what y'all are throwing out there - Rookies vs. Veterans - is true, but I'm not getting my hopes up too much.

[QUOTE=TheSeenScene;336386]I don't really care about what the next format is, as long as it has nothing to do with pairs (or teams that split off into pairs, like the last challenge). I'm hoping what y'all are throwing out there - Rookies vs. Veterans - is true, but I'm not getting my hopes up too much.[/QUOTE] I am assuming the cast list is near accurate so take it for what it's worth conversationally. Alliances could be interesting actuallly. Diem is freinds with Ashley, Tyler is friends with Frank, Johnny/Tyler/Paula would normally align, CT and Zach are cool but Johnny and Frank seem to dislike each other and CT/Johnny were freinds not sure if they still are at least around exes they were. This all could make for some tough decisions and lots of fights even in alliances I think how alliances are formed in a rookie/vet situation to stay safe is going to legit ruin some friendships. I am intrigued with who the rookies would choose of all the vets and who they consider the easier "out" of some of the vets with reputations or choosing between CT/Johnny/Tyler etc. I just think last season their was a far more amount of fighting just to fight rather than actual hard feelings, basically for camera time. So please don't make the show about Frank, but if he tries to go after a big vet and get them to hit him, than he will be a focal point of the trailer for sure which would suck. I also think Frank/Zach's friendship is always hanging by a thread so i could see them not being cool with each other very quickly and not even being aligned if they don't have to. I see a lot of potential and i see it not being just 1 alliance running the show.because of already hard feelings between some of the old/new people Just my thoughts..But i think a vet and a rookie as pairs wouldn't even be bad if they really did a good job of combining certain vets/rookies to make it interesting. But i highly doubt they would probably would be lots of weak teams and a few strong

Johnny and CT are definitely going to align. Tyler and Diem are wild cards but I see them sticking with the vets. Honestly, it all comes down what the format is.

[QUOTE=Reily Man;336327]These people (barring injury or anything else you guys wanna come up with to refuse to believe) will be leaving from the United States next Monday Morning for the 25th season of The Challenge: Johnny, Tyler, Wes, CT, Chet, Zach, Frank, Trey, Robb, Knight, Leroy, Jordan, Marlon, Paula, Sarah, Diem, Nany, Naomi, Jonna, Trishelle, Ashley, Jemmye, Camila, Jessica, and Anastasia. Now I know a few can be alternates like I dont expect 4 people from Portland to be on but you never know. Expect to see most of these people. Sleepers: Kenny & Evan[/QUOTE] I'm gonna hope that at least half of those people were there for just that NYC marathon thing, that list of people really does not interest me. Trishelle, Trey, Paula, Sarah, and Diem I like though. Coral would be sweet to see again, she has stated she wanted to do another challenge. Cameron, while she didn't do much in the two challenges she was in, would be fun to see again too. [QUOTE=eagles28;336365]I wasn't just talking about BOTS 2. I was talking about the Challenge franchise as a whole. Every season they have people who you know 100% will not win. I'm fine with those people being on the show, as long as they contribute SOMETHING to the show(fights, drama, good commentary or something!)Tyrie, Davis, Ayiiia, Emilee, Shauvon, McKenzie, Preston, Priscilla, Katelynn, J.D., Nick Brown, Danny, [B]Lacey, Melinda,[/B] Naomi, Vinny. These are just people off the top of my head that have done recent challenges and add no real value to the show. Obviously this is all just my opinion though :)[/QUOTE] Melinda showed some gusto in her elimination in cuthroat...I'd like to see her in a one on one elimination again. Lacey had great banter with Wes...would love to see her again if Wes is on this challenge. And one of my favorite edits of all time came from Shauvon when she was explaining that her implant popped to every single person in the house....lol

I love the title of this thread. BTW: Beth was contacted about a recent challenge, but she was unavailable. She did express interest in doing another, particularly a Duel format. Jillian has informed BMP that she has moved on. Evelyn is definitely finishing school this year and headed to law school, so she is unavailable (for the benefit of those thinking she would change her mind). So, there is one name you all can consider and two you can eliminate from possible consideration. As for those waiting for molds13, like me, she may have, for a number of reasons, generally lost interest in the challenges.

Some of you may recognize the name Bob Harper, the long-time fitness training from Biggest Loser. He's generally known as a fitness instructor who lives up to his reputation. He recently posted a crossfit score. Emily Schromm(DC) was asked if his score was good, since she is an avid crossfit practitioner herself. You can see her reply below. If she is on the next challenge, God help anyone in her way. [ATTACH]1459[/ATTACH]

Theirs only a few people left to figure out. It's def a vets vs rooks or old school vs new school by the look of the cast. No matter what the game is it wont be like a gauntlet 2 or 3 where their going against people on their own team. Ill be really upset if they do a champs challengers game.

With Evelyn, I'd like to think that if the next Challenge happens during the summer she might be willing to do it because it would be between school semesters.

I'd say these are the locks to be on it: CT, Johnny, Tyler, Wes, Chet, Leroy, Dunbar, Sarah, Paula, Diem, Trishelle, Camila, Emily S, Jonna, with 2 ?? as far as vets go. The gauntlet 3 was 8 male 8 female on each team. Rooks: Zach, Frank, Trey, Robb, Knight, Jordan, Marlon, Nany, Naomi, Ashley, Jemmye, Jessica, Anastasia, missing 1 guy and 2 girls. For some reason I think were gonna see Coral and 1 of Kenny or Evan.

I'd rather see Kenny on a Challenge than Evan.

The veteran male is probably Ty. The vet female is a toss up between Theresa, Mandi, Cara Maria, Coral or Melinda. The rookie male probably between Nate and Swift. The rookie females are between Marie, McKenzie, Ayiiia, and Sahar.

I feel like most of you are just throwing out random names without any concrete proof. Before you come up with people out of the blue, I think you should have some sort of proof - a tweet, a Facebook comment, [I]something [/I]​valid.

[QUOTE=V1man;336396]I love the title of this thread. BTW: Beth was contacted about a recent challenge, but she was unavailable. She did express interest in doing another, particularly a Duel format. Jillian has informed BMP that she has moved on. Evelyn is definitely finishing school this year and headed to law school, so she is unavailable (for the benefit of those thinking she would change her mind). So, there is one name you all can consider and two you can eliminate from possible consideration. As for those waiting for molds13, like me, she may have, for a number of reasons, generally lost interest in the challenges.[/QUOTE] Not trying to be rude, just curious, if you have a lost intrest in the show what is the point in posting here anymore?

[QUOTE=V1man;336396]I love the title of this thread. BTW: Beth was contacted about a recent challenge, but she was unavailable. She did express interest in doing another, particularly a Duel format. Jillian has informed BMP that she has moved on. Evelyn is definitely finishing school this year and headed to law school, so she is unavailable (for the benefit of those thinking she would change her mind). So, there is one name you all can consider and two you can eliminate from possible consideration. As for those waiting for molds13, like me, she may have, for a number of reasons, generally lost interest in the challenges.[/QUOTE] Edit: I too love the title and am hoping that title stands true to the current discussion of cast members :D Beth!!! :D I miss Beth......I would love to see her. Thats sad about Jillian...that prob. means we will never see any XTreme ladies again...I loved all 5 of them. If they brought back some true vets (Johnny, Evan, etc. are not true vets imo) then I think there would be something to offer everyone....If they would be able to pull off getting Coral and Beth in this challenge that would be great. Mix in some Rachel R, Katie, Robin (even Robin is still a little new school to me, but she has earned her place a true vet), etc then I'd be happy....hoping Molds reports a different list the rumored twitter frenzy list.......

I still think we are going to see Laura. She was in LA end of Feb/beginning of March and left SPI this morning and is flying out west, switching planes in Phoenix so will prob end up in LA again. Should be interesting since her and Trey broke up and she is now friends with Frank and Knight.