The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

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[QUOTE=gamer73;336330]How do you know about the others besides CT and Trey? Did they back out on their vacation as well?[/QUOTE] They took tests, some in LA and some in NY. I dont know how he tells the difference between ppl who live in NY and the ppl who were attending some MTV thing in NY. I can see Wes and Trishelle randomly going to LA as a hint, especially since Wes called it work then called it vacation. This cast is basically last seasons cast. I wonder why they didn't ask Cara Maria, she always says yes and used to be a regular, like how does Sarah keep coming back but CM doesnt? Its as if MTV has something against some ppl. I dont get why they keep asking Wes back when he makes it clear he doesnt care to go far, but ppl like CM or Derrick would try. Its also kind of mean in a way cause some of these ppl live off the challenge as their only source of income and theyre being replaced by ppl like Preston and JD. If youre boring and quiet dont be on tv, if you are quiet then fake it, Leroy said Wes is quiet and never talks but he still managed to talk enough in interviews and whatever to look like he isnt.
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[QUOTE=Reily Man;336327]These people (barring injury or anything else you guys wanna come up with to refuse to believe) will be leaving from the United States next Monday Morning for the 25th season of The Challenge: Johnny, Tyler, Wes, CT, Chet, Zach, Frank, Trey, Robb, Knight, Leroy, Jordan, Marlon, Paula, Sarah, Diem, Nany, Naomi, Jonna, Trishelle, Ashley, Jemmye, Camila, Jessica, and Anastasia. Now I know a few can be alternates like I dont expect 4 people from Portland to be on but you never know. Expect to see most of these people. Sleepers: Kenny & Evan[/QUOTE] I'm expecting at least one old veteran( Since BMP/MTV cast one or two now) and some Sydney members But it's probably Johnny, Tyler, Wes, CT, Chet, Leroy, Paula, Sarah, Diem, Jonna, Trishelle, Camilla vs Zach, Frank, Trey, Robb, Knight, Jordan, Marlon, Nany, Noami, Ashley, Jemmye, Jessica & Anastasia If so, I speculate Wes, Chet, Jonna and Trishelle to be the first scapegoats on the veterans team. On the rookie team however, anything can happen, because it's 6 on 8. ZFK are not in the majority! Interesting.
[QUOTE=Reily Man;336327]These people (barring injury or anything else you guys wanna come up with to refuse to believe) will be leaving from the United States next Monday Morning for the 25th season of The Challenge: Johnny, Tyler, Wes, CT, Chet, Zach, [B]Frank,[/B] Trey, Robb,[B] Knight,[/B] Leroy, Jordan, Marlon, Paula, Sarah, Diem, Nany, Naomi, Jonna, Trishelle, Ashley, [B]Jemmye[/B], Camila, Jessica, and Anastasia. Now I know a few can be alternates like I dont expect 4 people from Portland to be on but you never know. Expect to see most of these people. Sleepers: Kenny & Evan[/QUOTE] Yap, I think I´ll pass
If its indeed Vets vs Rookies than we are missing quite a few people... 2 girls each, 1 rookie guy and 2 vets guys..(and this is counting in all 4 RW-newbies) Also, this cast is pretty much Exes and Seasons thrown together. I expected a lot more...
[QUOTE=Lola88;336302]I still don't see how the Instagram pic of Jonna saying she's going to miss her mom 2 weeks ago was relevant to this upcoming challenge. Anyway, if there are any surprises I hope it's Brynn and/or Keri.[/QUOTE] It wasn't apicture from Jonna Instagram, it was a pic from her roomate instagram. That wasn't the caption at all, the caption was something like spending some quality time with my roomie before she leave me at the end of next month and she used the tags #goodluck #win #money I would be suprised if coral or/and Beth does anotherchallenge I wouldnt be suprised if 4 peopleof portland are on itthey have done it before for freshmeat with austin, the duel with key west and last season with st.thomas. I was expecting Ni, averey/joi, johnny and jordan.
Dunbar was in new york for a day last week according to his tweeter. What if they pair a veteran with a rookie?
God ,i hope no Dunbar,i doubt that they will do that because that season would really lack in drama
[QUOTE=Blue123;336331]They took tests, some in LA and some in NY. I dont know how he tells the difference between ppl who live in NY and the ppl who were attending some MTV thing in NY. I can see Wes and Trishelle randomly going to LA as a hint, especially since Wes called it work then called it vacation. This cast is basically last seasons cast. I wonder why they didn't ask Cara Maria, she always says yes and used to be a regular, like how does Sarah keep coming back but CM doesnt? Its as if MTV has something against some ppl. I dont get why they keep asking Wes back when he makes it clear he doesnt care to go far, but ppl like CM or Derrick would try. Its also kind of mean in a way cause some of these ppl live off the challenge as their only source of income and theyre being replaced by ppl like Preston and JD. If youre boring and quiet dont be on tv, if you are quiet then fake it, Leroy said Wes is quiet and never talks but he still managed to talk enough in interviews and whatever to look like he isnt.[/QUOTE] You do realize that Cara Maria has been on every single challenge since FM right? Btw that list has 1 less female than men and some are probably alternates. Don't get your hopes up everybody, I'm sure there are other people involved.
[QUOTE=Pinky;336337]Dunbar was in new york for a day last week according to his tweeter. What if they pair a veteran with a rookie?[/QUOTE] that would be pretty cool actually but then again it would be a another pair challenge and we all know we have had too many of those already.
[QUOTE=Reily Man;336327]These people will be leaving from the United States next Monday Morning for the 25th season of The Challenge: Johnny, Tyler, Wes, CT, Chet, Zach, Frank, Trey, Robb, Knight, Leroy, Jordan, Marlon, Paula, Sarah, Diem, Nany, Naomi, Jonna, Trishelle, Ashley, Jemmye, Camila, Jessica, and Anastasia. [/QUOTE] IMO, the worst cast ever. I will be glad to see Trey, Knight, Jemmye and Nany only. I didn't watch RW Portland, so I hope newbies are going to shine. Otherwise this season would be waste.
Worst than last seasons?
I was going to say that last season's was pretty horrendous.
People complain they need new blood instead of the same old Johnny, Paula etc so they give us BOTS. Then people complain there's too much new blood and say they want Johnny Paula and CT back but then looking at the rumored cast people still complain. If this is the actual cast you can't blame BMP if they are just trying to cater to their audience and what their audience wants. Other than that if that is the actual cast it's a pretty good mix of Rookies and Vets. Just hoping for some surprises which we'll probably get.
I'm not complaining about this cast but the last Challenge's. One of my issues with the Challenges as of late as been that it is too easy for an Alliance to get control and stay in charge the entire time. As for cast members on the Challenge that I am tired of seeing? Only name comes up and that is Frank.
Yeah I don't really like Frank either but I think he's mainly casted this season because everyone wants to see him going up against real vets like Johnny and CT.
Coral tweeted this when the person on twitter asked for her and kenny on the next challenge. Coral Smith ‏@ThatCoral @SharBearNYC85 thank you babe...maybe you'll be seeing at least one of us soon...fingers crossed. ;)
[QUOTE=Reily Man;336327]These people (barring injury or anything else you guys wanna come up with to refuse to believe) will be leaving from the United States next Monday Morning for the 25th season of The Challenge: [B]Johnny[/B], Tyler, [B]Wes[/B], CT, Chet, [B]Zach[/B], Frank, Trey, Robb, [B]Knight[/B], Leroy, Jordan, Marlon, [B]Paula[/B], Sarah, Diem, Nany, Naomi, [B]Jonna[/B], Trishelle, Ashley, Jemmye, [B]Camila[/B], Jessica, and Anastasia. Now I know a few can be alternates like I dont expect 4 people from Portland to be on but you never know. Expect to see most of these people. Sleepers: Kenny & Evan[/QUOTE] I am not excited to see those people. I would have bolded Frank too but I want to see him humiliated.
[QUOTE=Get_me_gone;336341]IMO, the worst cast ever. I will be glad to see Trey, Knight, Jemmye and Nany only. I didn't watch RW Portland, so I hope newbies are going to shine. Otherwise this season would be waste.[/QUOTE] Why are you complaining so much about the cast? You realize that the people you are complaining about not doing it have to agree with MTV or whoever to actually do the challenge. For all you know they ask the people you are complaining about not seeing but they are just saying no they do not want to do it or it doesn't work out for them. At some point they have to just get the easiest group of people to get to do it within a certain theme. I still like to watch the show no matter what, not sure why certain people complain so much on here and then say they are not going to watch the show because a certain person is on.
This cast is actually looking great to me. You got Camila, Nany, Diem, Leroy, and some Portland people. Paula could fall off the face of the earth, at this point. No one person turns me off to the point of not watching as that's just stupid to me.
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[QUOTE=Reily Man;336327]These people (barring injury or anything else you guys wanna come up with to refuse to believe) will be leaving from the United States next Monday Morning for the 25th season of The Challenge: Johnny, Tyler, Wes, CT, Chet, Zach, Frank, Trey, Robb, Knight, Leroy, Jordan, Marlon, Paula, Sarah, Diem, Nany, Naomi, Jonna, Trishelle, Ashley, Jemmye, Camila, Jessica, and Anastasia. Now I know a few can be alternates like I dont expect 4 people from Portland to be on but you never know. Expect to see most of these people. Sleepers: Kenny & Evan[/QUOTE] I hope you are just making stuff up. That sounds terrible. Ashley and Jonna? Really, so you can have no personality and still get brought back. Hopefully atleast a few of those are wrong and we get some decent surprises.
[QUOTE=LexBlair;336334]Yap, I think I´ll pass[/QUOTE] Your not gonna watch this season because you dont like 3 people out of 25.
I hate it when some people say they are not gonna watch this season because of Frank. There is plenty other contestants competing this season. So your not gonna watch this season because of one person. I know a lot of you dont like him, I dont either but im gonna still watch it because I the love this show.
[QUOTE=jeckenrode09;336351]Why are you complaining so much about the cast? You realize that the people you are complaining about not doing it have to agree with MTV or whoever to actually do the challenge. For all you know they ask the people you are complaining about not seeing but they are just saying no they do not want to do it or it doesn't work out for them. At some point they have to just get the easiest group of people to get to do it within a certain theme. I still like to watch the show no matter what, not sure why certain people complain so much on here and then say they are not going to watch the show because a certain person is on.[/QUOTE] I'm just sharing my opinion, that's what this topic is for, isn't it? I know MTV probably asked other people and they try really hard to make us (viewers) enjoy the show, but it doesn't change the fact that I (personally) don't like that cast. And I don't say I will not watch the season, but I just think that I could enjoy it more if they bring my favorite players.
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[QUOTE=WallyT09;336358]I hate it when some people say they are not gonna watch this season because of Frank. There is plenty other contestants competing this season. So your not gonna watch this season because of one person. I know a lot of you dont like him, I dont either but im gonna still watch it because I the love this show.[/QUOTE] I hate when people claim they are going to stop watching as well, but with Frank I get. I have seen every challenge since the atart of the 6 vs 6 challenges, but I'll wait to see the trailer if it seems like a heavy Frank edit I'll skip out. My favorite part of the show is the drama and fighting but this dude is so inauthentic and contrived it takes the fun away. Normally I rewind and rewatch all the big fights but every fight Frank was involved in this last I switched over to American Horror Story. Real World and the Challenges were on a ratings incline till Frank came along don't get how MTV doesn't get it. I won't write this challenge off yet though. Hopefully next Monday we will be pleasntly surprised, or atleast hopefully I will haha.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;336344]I was going to say that last season's was pretty horrendous.[/QUOTE] Actually not.
Assuming that list is correct, either Leroy's considered a vet OR they have 3 more vet guys coming in, presuming it's Rookies vs Vets
Ya it would be interesting what they will consider a vet if it's vets vs rookies. It would balance out better if leroy, chet, and emily were rookies. but if they get paid as rookies I would be ****** if I were them.
[QUOTE=alaskak94;336325]You wouldn't have had Devyn or Jasmine if they hadn't casted JD or Derek.[/QUOTE] I wasn't just talking about BOTS 2. I was talking about the Challenge franchise as a whole. Every season they have people who you know 100% will not win. I'm fine with those people being on the show, as long as they contribute SOMETHING to the show(fights, drama, good commentary or something!)Tyrie, Davis, Ayiiia, Emilee, Shauvon, McKenzie, Preston, Priscilla, Katelynn, J.D., Nick Brown, Danny, Lacey, Melinda, Naomi, Vinny. These are just people off the top of my head that have done recent challenges and add no real value to the show. Obviously this is all just my opinion though :)
So "adding value" to challenges strictly means getting drunk and causing fights and being over-the-top dramatic or being extremely athletic? I'll take the McKenzies and Melinda's over the obnoxious drama queens like Jemmye and Jasmine any day if the week. A girl with beauty and brains is better than trashy alcoholics.

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