The Real World/Road Rules Scripted?

I've always strongly suspected that Brooklyn Sarah's father was given the RW house's phone number by production. Technically that would be "staging," not "scripting." Is it even possible to call directly into a RW house without being intercepted by a call screener? I remember a scene from the Ruins where I thought Chet made a mistake common to beginning actors. During normal conversation a person must listen to the speaker, interpret their words, and then formulate a response, all of which takes time. When dialogue is scripted, sometimes actors respond too quickly because they already know what is going to be said by the speaker. That could have been some scripted banter, or what I believe is known as a "pick up" scene, where a scene is repeated because something went wrong (like someone interrupting or making noise in the background, etc.).

I read somewhere (maybe she posted it on here) that a family member gave the number to her dad.

In her mmagency profile it said it was her aunt who gave her dad the number.

[QUOTE=Johnny619;146974]I think the only way Real World / The Challenges are scripted is by the editing. ...and that you can hardly call 'scripted'.[/QUOTE] That's basically what it comes down to.

[QUOTE=Blamo;147465]I've always strongly suspected that Brooklyn Sarah's father was given the RW house's phone number by production. Technically that would be "staging," not "scripting." Is it even possible to call directly into a RW house without being intercepted by a call screener?[/QUOTE] One does call the RW house directly. You are greeted by a recording stating that everything you say[strike] can be used against you [/strike] is taped and can be used on air. The thing is the phone is usually busy. If you are lucky enough to get through, no one will answer. If by some chance someone answers,[strike]it would probably be someone your daughter hooked up with[/strike] odds are it would not be who you were calling. If you ask questions [strike]you would not be told your child was in the hospital[/strike] you would be told everything was great.

[QUOTE=ColiesMom;150308]One does call the RW house directly. You are greeted by a recording stating that everything you say[strike] can be used against you [/strike] is taped and can be used on air. The thing is the phone is usually busy. If you are lucky enough to get through, no one will answer. If by some chance someone answers,[strike]it would probably be someone your daughter hooked up with [/strike] odds are it would not be who you were calling. If you ask questions [strike]you would not be told your child was in the hospital[/SPOILER] you would be told everything was great.[/strike] Is there a answering machine or voicemail of sorts? Also, is instant messaging blocked?

There's staging in the sense of Chet 'just happening' to make an MTV contact and get a test run in TRL studios.

Julie from RW1 said there was always pressure to do something. Her date and overnight stay were results of it according to her. Andre's house that they practiced at was made to look more dirty by production and then they called the cops to come and roust the band because of the noise. That staging brought some of the more memorable moments in just RW1 with Larry Johnson, the Knicks game, meeting all the Detroit Pistons, including Dennis Rodman, afterward. That stuff is done, yes. But scripting, aka telling people what to say, does not get done. Instigating events might (and actually that happens more now than in the past).

I agree with you Puma. Some of the events might be staged but what to say isn't and it occurs more now than in the past. I'm not hating against the Real World because I still watch it sometimes but once RW Hollywood started I wasn't the big fan that I used to be. RW isn't the only show that is like this either. VH1 has a lot of staged scenes too.

Hmm this is why I've always wanted to be on a reality show... not for the fame or to party, but just to see how much of the behind the scenes stuff actually influences what viewers see. I'd jump at the chance to do it. And of course I'd have to share what I know with all of you! :victory:

[QUOTE=Aereas;150566]Hmm this is why I've always wanted to be on a reality show... not for the fame or to party, but just to see how much of the behind the scenes stuff actually influences what viewers see. I'd jump at the chance to do it. And of course I'd have to share what I know with all of you! :victory:[/QUOTE] Non-Disclosures would prevent you from saying anything to anyone.

[QUOTE=Entropy;150589]Non-Disclosures would prevent you from saying anything to anyone.[/QUOTE] Like that's stopped anyone before...

There would be massive lawsuits, which would result from this. I think though it would be funny if they did use scripts or cue cards. Though I don't think this is the case, I do think production can influence the show by choosing who meets at the airport and by putting people in the house who will obviously not get along.

man this is television the meaning is just to catch our attention they care if stuff is scripted or staged as long as people are watching it.

LOL! I love how someone put The Hills as one of the tags.

Not to dredge up this mostly ridiculous topic, but it's worth pointing out that it came out a long time ago that during the last challenge before the final on Rivals, Leroy and Mike were essentially 'gifted' a win in order to ensure a potentially classic final elimination between 2 of the 3 other teams. The challenge was basically who could climb a rope the fastest while hanging from a helicopter flying over a lake. The pilot was given specific instructions to fly smoothly during Leroy/Mike's run and not so smoothly in the other 3 runs. This is pretty evident in the results as well, Leroy makes it up the rope fairly easily while the other 3 guys (Johnny, CT, and Kenny) all struggle to make any progress. Now it's interesting that they chose to do this considering, I think the Final with CT/Adam in place of Leroy/Mike could have potentially made that the most competitive Final ever, and made up for any lack of ratings in the second to last episode. Either way it is a bit disconcerting that they are willing to 'fix' the results of any challenge to this magnitude. I haven't heard of anything as bad as this happening in either Exes or Battle of the Seasons, mostly because I don't think people realize how hard it is to do this without being blatantly obvious. That helicopter challenge was a perfect situation for it, as there is no possible way for the viewers at home to distinguish the amount of turbulence each team had, nor would have been possible for the other teams competing to notice the difference in turbulence between runs as they were watching from the shoreline a considerable distance away; else they would have likely complained.

Well, and there was this one elimination back in the days.... On the Gauntlet, I believe, RW vs RR, Theo vs Cara. They had to hold on to a mechanical bull with just one hand, avoiding falling of, and Theo´s(RW´s) bull was just blatantly moving much faster. While Cara´s bull completed a single round Theos´s was already at the end of its second round...

[QUOTE=LexBlair;331978]Well, and there was this one elimination back in the days.... On the Gauntlet, I believe, RW vs RR, Theo vs Cara. They had to hold on to a mechanical bull with just one hand, avoiding falling of, and Theo´s(RW´s) bull was just blatantly moving much faster. While Cara´s bull completed a single round Theos´s was already at the end of its second round...[/QUOTE] Yeah but in order to prove guilt there you have to provide a motive. Was there enough of a reason to want to keep Cara and not Theo? I honestly can't remember back to the Gauntlet 1 as that was ages ago, but Cara was always kinda of nutty so maybe they thought she was better TV. If you can't prove motive then it honestly could have simply been a mechanical failure and just bad luck. Similar to Ashley's ATV stalling/not working and Frank getting no distance whatsoever on his jump. I really don't think that was fixed as the entire San Diego team had become the entire show at that point, no way they would intentionally try to get them into an Arena.

This goes for any production for a competition show, especially The Challenge. Their mentality is "we are making a television show". If they can skew results undetected, without anyone ever knowing, you bet your a** they'll do it! The Real World however, I think is a different story.

[QUOTE=LexBlair;331978]Well, and there was this one elimination back in the days.... On the Gauntlet, I believe, RW vs RR, Theo vs Cara. They had to hold on to a mechanical bull with just one hand, avoiding falling of, and Theo´s(RW´s) bull was just blatantly moving much faster. While Cara´s bull completed a single round Theos´s was already at the end of its second round...[/QUOTE] While I do agree with you that Cara's bull was moving obnoxiously slower than Theo's, one could also argue they were trying to make it more fair by doing that... considering it was a male vs. female Gauntlet.

[QUOTE=Stommped34;331974]Not to dredge up this mostly ridiculous topic, but it's worth pointing out that it came out a long time ago that during the last challenge before the final on Rivals, Leroy and Mike were essentially 'gifted' a win in order to ensure a potentially classic final elimination between 2 of the 3 other teams. The challenge was basically who could climb a rope the fastest while hanging from a helicopter flying over a lake. The pilot was given specific instructions to fly smoothly during Leroy/Mike's run and not so smoothly in the other 3 runs. This is pretty evident in the results as well, Leroy makes it up the rope fairly easily while the other 3 guys (Johnny, CT, and Kenny) all struggle to make any progress. [/QUOTE] This is not true. The pilot was instructed to fly higher (not smoother) after the first run (CT) because otherwise everyone would DQ because the rope would get caught in the water and no one could use their legs to climb. Leroy smoked Johnny and Wes; it was only CT that got screwed.

[QUOTE=gbp02;331998]This is not true. The pilot was instructed to fly higher (not smoother) after the first run (CT) because otherwise everyone would DQ because the rope would get caught in the water and no one could use their legs to climb. Leroy smoked Johnny and Wes; it was only CT that got screwed.[/QUOTE] But wouldn't it make the most sense to have everyone do one run with the helicopter flying lower and if everyone DQ'd THEN have it fly higher?

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;332000]But wouldn't it make the most sense to have everyone do one run with the helicopter flying lower and if everyone DQ'd THEN have it fly higher?[/QUOTE] Helicopter fuel costs money. They probably also had time constraints.

[QUOTE=LexBlair;331978]Well, and there was this one elimination back in the days.... On the Gauntlet, I believe, RW vs RR, Theo vs Cara. They had to hold on to a mechanical bull with just one hand, avoiding falling of, and Theo´s(RW´s) bull was just blatantly moving much faster. While Cara´s bull completed a single round Theos´s was already at the end of its second round...[/QUOTE] They made it spin so that the heavier you are, the faster it would move because it's easier to stay on when you're heavy.

[QUOTE=gbp02;331998]This is not true. The pilot was instructed to fly higher (not smoother) after the first run (CT) because otherwise everyone would DQ because the rope would get caught in the water and no one could use their legs to climb. Leroy smoked Johnny and Wes; it was only CT that got screwed.[/QUOTE] Well then we must have heard different things. Specifically the accusation I heard was that BMP did not want Leroy/Mike in the final elimination in order to get a very competitive/rough final elimination. Don't you find it a little hard to believe that Leroy would have done so much better than the other guys at climbing a rope? He made it look like cake when everyone else struggled to move an inch.

[QUOTE=Stommped34;332010]Well then we must have heard different things. Specifically the accusation I heard was that BMP did not want Leroy/Mike in the final elimination in order to get a very competitive/rough final elimination. Don't you find it a little hard to believe that Leroy would have done so much better than the other guys at climbing a rope? He made it look like cake when everyone else struggled to move an inch.[/QUOTE] I just rewatched it, and the height of the helicopter was pretty much the same for the final 3 teams. They all had the weight at the bottom of the rope bouncing off the water (it is harder to tell for Mike and Leroy because they don't show the bottom of the rope, but when Leroy drops in, the bottom of the rope is hitting the water) whereas CT and Adam had the entire black section of the rope, and not just the weight at the bottom of the rope hitting the water.

[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;332001]Helicopter fuel costs money. They probably also had time constraints.[/QUOTE] And it wouldn't of made any difference. Leroy ate that rope up. I remember Tyler talking about it during one of Derrick's podcasts. He said no one was even close to Leroy's time.