[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;313934]Janie wanted to go after Shane, and Danielle is obssesed with Shane, even though he clearly has no interest in her. Danielle is not a good player. Janelle would've put up Jenn and Shane, not Danielle.[/QUOTE]
Completely disagree that Danielle isn't a good player--prior to this week I would have agreed with that but Danielle actually is thinking things through. She should protect Shane. Shane's a bigger target than she is and they're aligned. That's the smart move.
Oh, and Janelle isn't that stupid. Danielle is a vote for Shane to stay--she would have been on the block
If I had no shot at staying, I would much rather people just tell me. Than having me run around for 3 days asking for votes that I wont be getting. I hope Janelle goes out with a bang.
[QUOTE=Gdsimmons;313937]If I had no shot at staying, I would much rather people just tell me. Than having me run around for 3 days asking for votes that I wont be getting. I hope Janelle goes out with a bang.[/QUOTE]
Dan made it clear last night that he wants a ************* fight this week but I think we're going to get a Wil-Janelle blowout. For some reason, Janelle seems to be blaming Wil for this.
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;313927]Janie is up.
Danielle, who was bragging about how "brave" she is, is now crying to Janie about how sorry she is.[/QUOTE]
Who did Danielle use the veto on? Wil or Frank?
Janelle likely has Ashley & Joe's votes locked up. So, she would probably need to convince Jenn, Wil & Britney to keep her. Jenn could be possible but Wil hates her an Britney isn't going against Danielle & Shane. She may have to get Dan who made a F3 deal with Boogie. Not looking good for Janie and she did this to herself last night
I love the move, but I am extremely biased by my lack of love for Janelle. She sure has played a dreadful game and got destroyed last night during the coach's meeting.
If this was a good move I would say too good. But it's not. It's all personal. Because Janelle wasn't cheering for her. Boo freaking hoo. I just can't. And before this week I was on Team Britney/Shane. I just feel like this move is gonna backfire on SOOOO many people.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;313935]I guessing you didn't watch things unfold. Dan was the one last night that changed his mind first and went to Danielle to get her to put up Janelle. Danielle said that's what she wanted to do in the first place and Dan talked her out of it. Then "the 4" met and Brit & Shane were on the fence about doing it but they brought in Ian and Ian wanted Janelle out first. So, they went with the majority.
Janelle may have Dan's back (Brit's too) but she was definitely going after Shane & Danielle and she wasn't willing to lose any of her players. Boogie flat out said--then let's said Joe home this week instead of her or his top player and she just sat there--said nothing. Janelle wasn't loyal to the 4 at all and she made the clear. If Janelle won and Frank is out of the house who would she put up...Dani & Shane...Boogie & Shane. Either way it is someone from the group of 4--if not two. She wasn't going to put up Ian or Jenn and even Ian is now part of the group.
This isn't a personal move--it is strategic. Boogie (who I hate with a passion) & Frank actually came across FAR BETTER last night than Janelle. Boogie turned down an alliance with the coaches because he said he refused to work with Janelle. Flat out. Boogie may turn on them but Janelle would have as well.
Clearly you like Janelle (I do as well) but she's playing a horrible game this season and last night was as bad as her social game has been since S6. Janelle's a great competitor but her social game isn't good.[/QUOTE]
LOL @ this. Not even close to the truth.
1) You obviously aren't a Janelle fan.
2) It clearly was a personal move.
3) Terrible strategic move since Janelle has nobody.
4) Boogie is not a good player, Danielle is a terrible player.
5) This was Boogie's idea not Dan's.
6) Janelle was not after Shane and Danielle, she made it clear her nominees would be Jenn and Ian, and then Boogie when he said he refused to work with her.
You may have watched last night, but you weren't listening.
Not a good move at all. It was personal. Janelle wasn't going after Britt, Danielle, or Dan. The only person who she would have went after is Shane and that isn't even for two more weeks. If you get Frank out it leaves Boogie with no one. This puts a huge target on both Dan and Danielle from the other side of the house. Maybe just maybe Boogie or Frank won't nominate DDBS for one week (they would back door Shane or Dan if they could next week) they will definitely go after them the week after. If Boogie gets past the next 2/3 weeks he sets himself up to win this game for a second time because by then Frank, Dan and Shane will have to go before Him. Like I said before, dumb move.
If Janelle goes home Thursday it will totally suck I will not have anyone to root for. It would be a smart idea to have a double eviction this Thursday that way Boogie, Frank, Joe or Danielle would follow Janie out the door.
I understand people love Janelle but the bias here is ridiculous. I wanted Jani to win All-Stars after Danielle Reyes went home because I can't stand Chilltown (though Will is great player) and I wanted her to win S6 because I couldn't stand anyone other than her but Janelle's game has been horrific the past 2 days. Absolutely awful.
I wanted Frank to go home last week. I wanted Frank to go home this week but she killed herself in this game last night. Her meeting with the coaches was horrid. She basically said without saying it she was going to stick with her team. "Let's take out Joe then"...not a word. How does she not answer that? She had nothing--she just looked scared.
If Janelle can save herself by Thursday that will be awesome because I want her to stay but Danielle made the right move this week. The group of 5 is all on board. And Danielle benefits from this far more than Dan or Britney does.
Even if Frank & Boogie only honor this for a week it's a good deal for them. Janelle's also a threat to win this game. She has to go at some point--so does Boogie, Frank, Dan & Shane. Those are the top 5 (counting Janelle). All are huge targets--rightfully so.
By the way, Ian is in by far the best shape right now
I agree with kvm1977 here, anyway I guess we will see how it turns out in the coming weeks. I really can not get myself to believe Janelle would put up Ian and Jenn.
Also, if I remember right Danielle and Shane first thought about getting Janelle out before ever being approached about it by Boogie.
If the other side of house wins (Joe, Ashley, Jenn, Wil) yeah Dan could go up, but so could Frank and Boogie. While if Janelle was still there and Frank was gone, who would be the second nominee. Dan or Shane would definitely be the second nominee with Boogie.
It's gotten to the point where I can only watch feeds that Janelle are on. Literally all they do is bash her, it's as bad, if not worse, than the Rachel-bashing in season 12. Danielle is frickin psycho and twists every conversation that she has with Janelle into Janelle bullying her. Joe is the only one that doesn't do a ton of Janelle bashing, so I guess I have to root for him? Ugh. I want to like Trixie, but she's just as hateful as the others. I'm actually glad Janie is getting out of there and back to her husband and daughter. She's much better off there than with these awful people.
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;314000]It's gotten to the point where I can only watch feeds that Janelle are on. Literally all they do is bash her, it's as bad, if not worse, than the Rachel-bashing in season 12. Danielle is frickin psycho and twists every conversation that she has with Janelle into Janelle bullying her. Joe is the only one that doesn't do a ton of Janelle bashing, so I guess I have to root for him? Ugh. I want to like Trixie, but she's just as hateful as the others. I'm actually glad Janie is getting out of there and back to her husband and daughter. She's much better off there than with these awful people.[/QUOTE]
It is a game--I think people forget that.
And most of the Rachel bashing was deserved IMO. Janelle not so much although she'll even admit her social game is awful--she said that earlier today on the feeds.
LOL I just turned on the feeds for the 1st time today and 2 minutes in Danielle said that Janelle has been bullying her into working out with her! This girl is a certified nutjob!
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;314005]LOL I just turned on the feeds for the 1st time today and 2 minutes in Danielle said that Janelle has been bullying her into working out with her! This girl is a certified nutjob![/QUOTE]
But Danielle's just trying to seal Janelle's fate in the game. Lying is part of the game and Danielle went for a big move and needs to make sure that Janelle leaves.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;314004]It is a game--i think people forget that
And [b] most of the Rachel bashing was deserved IMO. [/b] Janelle not so much although she'll even admit her social game is awful--she said that earlier today on the feeds.[/QUOTE]
Rachel was annoying and brought some of it on herself, but she NEVER deserved to be treated the way she was. Daniele Donato, Kalia, and Porsche sat in the HOH room laughing about how they wanted to abort Rachel's baby using a wire hanger. Ragan, Brit, and Matt would sit for hours and hours and say really vile things about her and then pretend to be her friend. None of that was deserved.
BB is really starting to lose me and it's sad because for years this has been my #1 favorite tv show. When Janie leaves Thursday, I'll still watch because of my love for the game, but I won't really give a damn about it anymore.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;314007]But Danielle's just trying to seal Janelle's fate in the game. Lying is part of the game and Danielle went for a big move and needs to make sure that Janelle leaves.[/QUOTE]
Either you're being sarcastic or you don't have the feeds/BBAD. There's no way you could think that Danielle bashing Janelle 24/7 to people who have already comitted to voting her out is any sort of game play.
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;314009]Either you're being sarcastic or you don't have the feeds/BBAD. There's no way you could think that Danielle bashing Janelle 24/7 to people who have already comitted to voting her out is any sort of game play.[/QUOTE]
You've watched Big Brother before, right? This is standard. Do you remember Janelle bashing the "Nerd Herd"--were you okay with that?
They bash Joe constantly--why doesn't that bother you? I hear just as much Joe bashing as Janelle bashing.
Danielle "exaggerating" about what happened with Janelle is absolutely "'game play" just like when Janelle spins what is said to fit what she wants to see have happen. Pretty much everyone that has ever played the game has done this.
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;314008]Rachel was annoying and brought some of it on herself, but she NEVER deserved to be treated the way she was. Daniele Donato, Kalia, and Porsche sat in the HOH room laughing about how they wanted to abort Rachel's baby using a wire hanger. Ragan, Brit, and Matt would sit for hours and hours and say really vile things about her and then pretend to be her friend. None of that was deserved.
BB is really starting to lose me and it's sad because for years this has been my #1 favorite tv show. When Janie leaves Thursday, I'll still watch because of my love for the game, but I won't really give a damn about it anymore.[/QUOTE]
Do you think Rachel never said anything nasty about anyone? Come on now.
Then don't watch if you're bothered by it. Janelle leaving is simply part of the game. She made mistakes and she's going to likely leave because of them. I'm sure Janelle will be the first to admit when she leaves that she didn't play a very good game this time. Janelle's still a great competitor and one of the best to never win the game but this time around her game was sub-par for her.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;314010]You've watched Big Brother before, right? This is standard. Do you remember Janelle bashing the "Nerd Heard"--were you okay with that?
They bash Joe constantly--why doesn't that bother you? I hear just as much Joe bashing as Janelle bashing.
Danielle "exaggerating" about what happened with Janelle is absolutely "'game play" just like when Janelle spins what is said to fit what she wants to see have happen. Pretty much everyone that has ever played the game has done this.[/QUOTE]
1) I was a fan of the Friendship, so no, I didn't like Janelle back then. At All.
2) I don't like the Joe bashing either, but it isn't nearly at the level of the Janie hatred.
3) There is a difference in exaggerating and just making **** up.
4) Making character attacks on someone who has done nothing at all to you for no good reason is not called game play, it's called being a really nasty person. If she was doing it to convince people to get Janie out I wouldn't be so against it, but she does it to the people that already hate Janelle and want her out anyway, so it's nothing to do with game play, it's personal. It's not just Danielle though, Brit, Wil, and Trixie are just as bad.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;314011]Do you think Rachel never said anything nasty about anyone? Come on now.
Then don't watch if you're bothered by it. Janelle leaving is simply part of the game. She made mistakes and she's going to likely leave because of them. I'm sure Janelle will be the first to admit when she leaves that she didn't play a very good game this time. Janelle's still a great competitor and one of the best to never win the game but this time around her game was sub-par for her.[/QUOTE]
Rachel trash talked too, who doesn't? I don't really have an issue with that. When I have a problem with it is when it becomes non-stop bashing or making very personal attacks. Rachel didn't do those thing. There's a difference between calling someone a floater and saying you want someone to have a miscarriage.
Janelle leaving isn't why I'll be less interested, it's the people she's leaving behind in the house. There's no one else there that I like, besides maybe Joe or Ian, but even they get on my nerves.
It's great to get Janelle out this early because she's a beast. All the personal stuff they say about her yeah that isn't warrented, but on her earlier seasons she played personal a little bit too. At the end of the day it's just a game, and this is what Dan and Boogie felt was best for their game, not Dani's lol. Boogie and Dan are working together they talked before the show about teaming up at the right moment, and now it's happening.
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