The Challenge: Summer 2012 - Pre-Departure Speculation (Spoilers)

[QUOTE=V1man;304641]This will be a team challenge, and [B]one of the teams will be made up of show critics/diehard fans.[/B] I'll freely admit that my shots are up to date, have a valid passport, have been working out a lot lately, and took a test last week.[/QUOTE] Interesting... [URL="http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=13495"][IMG]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/55564fb1380ba75b8.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

How could it possibly be Battle of the Seasons if Mark AND Coral are doing it? No one from Mark's season has done a challenge since Challenge 2000 and no one else from Coral's season has done one since Inferno 2. If either of them are on it, I'd say that would debunk a Battle of the Seasons. 3 guys from San Diego 2 also confuses me. If it's 2, then a Rivals 2 still seems possible to me. It would also explain Coral and Trishelle if they happened to be on it. Then again, it wouldn't explain Nehemiah either. If Paula really isn't on it then I can't see it being The Ruins 2 since the amount of girls who have won is very thin and you'd think they'd pretty much need her to be on the cast to get enough girls.

Yeah, I don't think Rivals 2 would explain Dunbar, Mark, Emily, Mike or Brandon either. And Laurel's rival would be Paula who has said she is not on this one. I agree that Mark and Coral seem out of place for a BOTSeasons, but neither is definitely on based on the cryptic social networking (some others seemed more overt). Or this definitely fits in the far-fetched category, but maybe they are both there as correspondents/something other than actual competitors? Coral did allude to something NEW... Yeah, not convinced myself, but it's the leading idea in my mind based on the speculated cast list and comments by V1man (excluding his latest :)).

i wonder with MTV wanting new winners could it mean they are planing a Ruins II?hmm ... I mean they could def need fresh blood on their Champions team... I also wonder if this is going to be Fresh Meat III ... but instead of getting unknown fresh meat, they could take the newbies from RW, that either never appeared on a Challenges or only competed once before... it would def explain the unusually high number of "newbies" and also some odd casting choices such as Coral, Camila, Shane or Trishelle.....

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;304587]That forum also said that Frank/Jillian would be on Exes and had definitive proof that they would be. Don't believe a word they say.[/QUOTE] That was during like their second month of having a site.

I think that if this site is for the public, you guys should be giving them up to date information and answering their questions. Saving the cast until you're sure of everyone will be pointless because by the time you guys are sure of everyone, everyone will already know the cast.

[QUOTE=ballinbroken;304676]I think that if this site is for the public, [B]you guys should be giving them up to date information and answering their questions.[/B] [/quote] Vevmo is not Yahooo answers. If you want Yahoo answers [URL="http://answers.yahoo.com/"]it is here[/URL]. [quote]Saving the cast until you're sure of everyone will be pointless because by the time you guys are sure of everyone, [B]everyone will already know the cast.[/B][/QUOTE] The cast has not left yet, so there is no cast to post. When we have the cast, we will post it. If you already "know" before then, feel free to post your findings in this pointless thread...

[QUOTE=ballinbroken;304676]I think that if this site is for the public, you guys should be giving them [B]up to date information and answering their questions.[/B] [/QUOTE] I know. Especially considering the extremely high membership fee's we have to pay to be a part of this forum!!!! I demand answers to the questions I have, regardless if the answers are known at this point or not!!!

[QUOTE=ballinbroken;304676]I think that if this site is for the public, you guys should be giving them up to date information and answering their questions. Saving the cast until you're sure of everyone will be pointless because by the time you guys are sure of everyone, everyone will already know the cast.[/QUOTE] Your circular logic notwithstanding, there are potential liability issues in giving out spoilers based on non-public information (as Survivor Sucks I think it was found out). I do think that it is not unreasonable to verify and pace spoilers to keep the conversation going. Lastly, Molds13 is not our servant. If she has spoilers it is totally up to her as to how to share them. If they are your spoilers, then that would be your decision. I've found potential spoilers that were true and I found some that turned out to be not true so I generally avoid bringing them now just because I have no way of knowing which way they will go and have no desire to be mocked when they are wrong in light of so little gratitude to Molds when hers are 98.47% right.

Wow. This is a pretty old post I just stumbled upon, but it made me laugh. This is how rumors start... [URL="http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=13508"][IMG]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/46674fb19fd7b9ef0.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [QUOTE=ballinbroken;304676]I think that if this site is for the public, you guys should be giving them up to date information and answering their questions. Saving the cast until you're sure of everyone will be pointless because by the time you guys are sure of everyone, everyone will already know the cast.[/QUOTE] Not to be rude, but if you're only here to criticize, your presence is, like this speculation thread, pointless.

[QUOTE=CherryPie;304714] Not to be rude, but if you're only here to criticize, your presence is, like this speculation thread, pointless.[/QUOTE] So I guess I fit in. I consider it critiquing.

[QUOTE=FishHooks;304687]Your circular logic notwithstanding, there are potential liability issues in giving out spoilers based on non-public information (as Survivor Sucks I think it was found out). I do think that it is not unreasonable to verify and pace spoilers to keep the conversation going. Lastly, Molds13 is not our servant. If she has spoilers it is totally up to her as to how to share them. If they are your spoilers, then that would be your decision. I've found potential spoilers that were true and I found some that turned out to be not true so I generally avoid bringing them now just because I have no way of knowing which way they will go and have no desire to be mocked when they are wrong in light of so little gratitude to Molds when hers are 98.47% right.[/QUOTE] So survivor sucks is unreliable now too? Not suprised though. Anyway i never heard of liability issues over spoilers.

[QUOTE=Nostalgic;304730]Not suprised though. Anyway i never heard of liability issues over spoilers.[/QUOTE] Why would you? What websites do you run that deals with reality show spoilers? Vevmo has been threatend with legal action by multi-national, multi-billion dollar, multi-media conglomerates that have more lawyers than Vevmo has members - over spoilers. Let's leave it at that.

At first with the suspected speculated cast members for the next challenge I thought a Duel 3 would be a bad idea because there was no heavy hitters and alot of rookies. But then I put together the cast and I thought this could be a fun cast to watch much like the Duel 1 that season had 2 big name guys at that time meaning CT and Derrick whereas the rest of the cast consisted of 1st or 2nd challenge competitors and new school veterans who have yet to shine on a challenge. What happened The Duel 1 was one of the most watched and most memorable seasons in the history of The Challenge so I'm looking forward to see what's going down for the next challenge with the suspected cast and personally hope it's a Duel 3 give the new kids a chance to shine and start a new chapter of The Challenge.

Thank God I have so many lawyer friends. They really come in handy. :D Does anyone know if Scott Herman is going to be on this challenge? I remember him making a video challenging Dunbar (I think...I can't find the video now) and have been dying to see how he would fair in a challenge. He talked up such a big game and I'd love to see how things shake down.

[QUOTE=Inglorious;304738]Thank God I have so many lawyer friends. They really come in handy. :D Does anyone know if Scott Herman is going to be on this challenge? I remember him making a video challenging Dunbar (I think...I can't find the video now) and have been dying to see how he would fair in a challenge. He talked up such a big game and I'd love to see how things shake down.[/QUOTE] Doubt it. I asked him on twitter if he'd ever do a challenge and responded with "not for me bro". It didn't seem cryptic at all.

Potential St. Thomas picks. [url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=13510][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/18234fb1d46b51cfd.png[/img][/url] [url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=13511][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/18234fb1d475d0ea3.png[/img][/url]

[QUOTE=ballinbroken;304741]Doubt it. I asked him on twitter if he'd ever do a challenge and responded with "not for me bro". It didn't seem cryptic at all.[/QUOTE] :( Thanks for the info though. [QUOTE=VCR14;304743]Potential St. Thomas picks. [url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=13510][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/18234fb1d46b51cfd.png[/img][/url] [url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=13511][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/18234fb1d475d0ea3.png[/img][/url][/QUOTE] Since Johnny Bananas isn't on this season, we won't be able to see him screw himself over.

[QUOTE=ballinbroken;304741]Doubt it. I asked him on twitter if he'd ever do a challenge and responded with "not for me bro". It didn't seem cryptic at all.[/QUOTE] At one point he seemed like he really wanted to do one, which makes me wonder if he changed or if MTV would just never call him (or both). It really would be risky for someone who works in fitness since a loss could damage his brand or an injury could sidetrack his private career.

[QUOTE=Nostalgic;304730]So survivor sucks is unreliable now too? Not suprised though. Anyway i never heard of liability issues over spoilers.[/QUOTE] No, I did not mean to imply that (and didn't think I did). I thought they were the site that got sued for soliciting spoilers from a cast member of a CBS show. Maybe it was another site. I cannot say that I have an opinion of the site one way or the other. I just skip through it from time to time since they don't often discuss the shows I watch regularly. I'm pretty indiscriminate when it comes to 'reliability' since spoilers are more like a fun puzzle than serious business.

[QUOTE=FishHooks;304746]At one point he seemed like he really wanted to do one, which makes me wonder if he changed or if MTV would just never call him (or both). It really would be risky for someone who works in fitness since a loss could damage his brand or an injury could sidetrack his private career.[/QUOTE] At first, it didn't make sense to me why Scott didn't want to do these things since he has a video of him doing the Tough Mudder run, which has some components of the Challenge. But your proposed premise seems to make a lot of sense since they do a lot of crazy things on the Challenge that could be dangerous and could potentially screw his career. Oh well...

well Battle of the Seasons is DEFINITELY out of the way.... [url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=13513][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/55434fb2208c9e02e.jpg[/img][/url] Camila on-route to her check-up... The more time passes the more do I think what I said in my previous post.... by this point it HAS to be that or a completely new format..

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;304763]At this point I hope its a Cutthroat II, I'm fed up of these themed challenges. [B]Cutthroat is clearly the superior format[/B]. I actually think the themed challenges reduce the drama because the people that hate each other are forced to make friends, MTV was just lucky that the cast members on Rivals found other enemies to argue with. If they really need a theme, make Coral, Trishelle and another oldie the team captains and then make the promos all about them returning.[/QUOTE] I believe the ratings tell a different story.

Somebody please tell me why Camila was even on these challenges to start with? I cant stand her, worthless casting.

[QUOTE=Challenge_Fan;304764]I believe the ratings tell a different story.[/QUOTE] Just because the ratings werent all that doesn't mean the show was bad or should be dismissed. I never cared for Scott anyway.

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;304763]At this point I hope its a Cutthroat II, I'm fed up of these themed challenges. Cutthroat is clearly the superior format. I actually think the themed challenges reduce the drama because the people that hate each other are forced to make friends, MTV was just lucky that the cast members on Rivals found other enemies to argue with. If they really need a theme, make Coral, Trishelle and another oldie the team captains and then make the [B]promos all about them[/B] returning.[/QUOTE] Dont think that would be a good idea. I can understand that Coral is a challenge legend or the "challenge addicted people" make her one and she would be worth about promoting, but Trishelle??? Has she ever been a heavy hitter? If I look a the pointless speculated cast right now, there must be some kind of a crazy team challenge. Duel 3 with new people would probably **** many fans off since they want the "best of the best" against eachother and not challenge nobodies.

[QUOTE=TSPKM2;304765]Somebody please tell me why Camila was even on these challenges to start with? I cant stand her, worthless casting.[/QUOTE] She is fun,she brings drama AND she is a kick *** competitor... thats more than MTV could ask for... just because you don´t like her that doesn´t mean that she is "useless".. 99% of people would say that being "useless" in terms of the challenge, means not bringing anything to the table, and you really can´t say this of her, no matter how much you dislike her.. [QUOTE=ILoveRW;304771]Trishelle was a huge name back in the day, if not bigger than Coral, right?[/QUOTE] Actually she was just very hot.... therefore people liked to see her on screen.... but as a competitor she was mediocre at best.... Coral was not that much better, but she had a very striking personality that one either loved her for OR loved to hate for... Trishelle was kinda nice but that´s it...

[QUOTE=Challenge_Fan;304764]I believe the ratings tell a different story.[/QUOTE] Because the cast was boring. The format, though, was really original, and more interesting to watch. Especially now, after they've done two paired challenges in a row. [QUOTE=TSPKM2;304765]Somebody please tell me why Camila was even on these challenges to start with? I cant stand her, worthless casting.[/QUOTE] Whaa? She's young, attractive, hilarious, dramatic, and drinks a lot. Plus she's actually a really good competitor. I could see why you wouldn't like her, because Mandi and Theresa are pretty much the same type (except Theresa is not a good competitor) and I can't stand them, but she's not “worthless casting” at all.