The Challenge: Summer 2012 - Pre-Departure Speculation (Spoilers)

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If it were Fresh Meat, wouldn't it be more likely that they had veteran captains who never actually compete but coach a team instead?
[QUOTE=McFly High;304486]Fair enough. But still wouldn't say Beth would have won for sure like what raskki said. Especially if she hasn't really proven to be all that good of a competitor (not saying she's bad either).[/QUOTE] You have no clue about Beth. Ask Jodi about her. Beth threw her off the ship plank during a wrestling comp on The Duel. They were of equal weight and Beth was perhaps an inch taller. Beth was never on a challenge to compete. If you had read her episode blogs at the time, you would realize that she had a particular role endorsed/fostered by production. Beth had already won v. Coral. Coral and the cast knew it. They had split one round each. What you didn't see is that Beth tossed Coral around and then let her win one of the two rounds. In between rounds, Beth asked her if she was ready to stay and take on the guys. Coral said yes and Beth let her win the final round.
I dont see any social patterns of the people being speculated yet. If Frank, Zach and Nate are all on, that rules out Battle of the Seasons and Rivals 2. Seems like we already have too many for a Fresh Meat 3. Idk with Frank, Zach and Nate I dont see how it could be a pairs format...maybe it's going to be Cutthroat 2 or a new format of teams this time? The people that seem suspicious on social networking sites to me are: Frank-SD 2.0 Nate-SD 2.0 Zach-SD 2.0 Sam-SD 2.0 Mike- DC Emily-DC Jasmine-Cancun Kelly Anne-Sydney Dunbar-Sydney Nehmiah-Austin Wes-Austin Trishelle-LV 1.0 Coral-B2NY Mark-RR USA Shane-RR CC Brandon-FM2 Laurel-FM2
[QUOTE=V1man;304492][B]You have no clue about Beth[/B]. Ask Jodi about her. Beth threw her off the ship plank during a wrestling comp on The Duel. They were of equal weight and Beth was perhaps an inch taller. Beth was never on a challenge to compete. If you had read her episode blogs at the time, you would realize that she had a particular role endorsed/fostered by production. Beth had already won v. Coral. Coral and the cast knew it. They had split one round each. What you didn't see is that Beth tossed Coral around and then let her win one of the two rounds. In between rounds, Beth asked her if she was ready to stay and take on the guys. Coral said yes and Beth let her win the final round.[/QUOTE] Never claimed that I did. I was simply going by what I seen from their past challenges. And looking at Coral's performances compared to Beth, you can't blame me for saying Coral is the better competitor and that he a big shot in beating Beth 7/10 times in the elimination. So even though you might be right, we still haven't seen Beth at her full potential.
I'm begining to miss Katie Doyle! I'm sad that I haven't seen her name anywhere.
I think it'd be interesting if they did a Fresh Meat but without new people...just use the rookies as they're still technically fresh. Give the 3+ challenge people a draft order and let them pick a new person. So maybe you get Coral + Zach or Mark Long + Naomi or whatever else.
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[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;304498]I'm begining to miss Katie Doyle! I'm sad that I haven't seen her name anywhere.[/QUOTE] She is all over facebook. School, her work and Joey occupy her time. [URL="https://www.facebook.com/KatieDoyle01"]https://www.facebook.com/KatieDoyle01[/URL]
Wait, so is official that the Queen, the Myth, The Legend, The Iconic, The One and Only, female competitor "EVELYN" has retired? :( lol. I mean when she had twitter I do remember her saying that she wasn't going to do more challenges, etc. but the same thing she said a while ago when she said she won't be doing any more challenges unless is Duel 3 (still waiting for that to happen since allot of people new to the show dare to compare her to Laurel, smh) and yet she came back to do Rivals. So is it like official?? Also, am I the only one who thinks that a part that made Coral quit (I'm not saying that it was the main reason or anything) but that made Coral quit was that she was going against the one and only Evelyn? I mean would she still quit if she was going, for example, against Diem or Robin? Ehh I do think Evelyn intimidated her since Evelyn was so fierce and not afraid to do "the dirty job" like she said, and making Coral risk being sent home by a female for the very 1st time, lol. Plus wouldn't that be epic, Evelyn v.s. Coral in that elimination that she did with Beth? Ahh I would have loved to see that.
Yes she "retired" oh at least put faith in her word to V1 who is actually a friend of hers.
[QUOTE=JL81790;304499]I think it'd be interesting if they did a Fresh Meat but without new people...just use the rookies as they're still technically fresh. Give the 3+ challenge people a draft order and let them pick a new person. So maybe you get Coral + Zach or Mark Long + Naomi or whatever else.[/QUOTE] That'd be good, but I'd rather see all guy and all girl pairs. like mark and zach, which would be ******* sick, and coral and jasmine, which would also be an interesting pair
I'm kind of intrigued by having noobs or some of the "lesser" competitors on, or people lower on the alliance totem poles. It's hard for some of these people to step out of the shadow of the JEK or other alliances who are all BFFs in real life, go into these games with plans, and basically politic their way to the final. That said, it'll suck having some of the well knowns not around.
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[QUOTE=GoPats;304537]I'm kind of intrigued by having noobs or some of the "lesser" competitors on, or people lower on the alliance totem poles. [B]It's hard for some of these people to step out of the shadow of the JEK or other alliances who are all BFFs in real life, go into these games with plans, and basically politic their way to the final.[/B] That said, it'll suck having some of the well knowns not around.[/QUOTE] After reading that Tonya lawsuit where she talks about Evan and Kenny being rewarded by production with behind the scene leadership positions makes me think the shadow may be bigger than the individual players or cliques. I am actually looking forward to having "noobs" and '"lesser' competitors" around (well except for Jasmine. She is the female Frank in my mind as in I get a headache just thinking about her and her screeching drama")
[QUOTE=FishHooks;304543]After reading that Tonya lawsuit where she talks about Evan and Kenny being rewarded by production with behind the scene leadership positions makes me think the shadow may be bigger than the individual players or cliques. I am actually looking forward to having "noobs" and '"lesser' competitors" around (well except for Jasmine. She is the female Frank in my mind as in I get a headache just thinking about her and her screeching drama")[/QUOTE] To be fair, the lawsuit filing was written by very competent attorneys based on what they believe they have evidence of to show a jury. Tonya didn't write it.
Wow, you guys are so much farther behind than **************. They're doing a lot better than this site.
[QUOTE=FishHooks;304543]After reading that Tonya lawsuit where she talks about Evan and Kenny being rewarded by production with behind the scene leadership positions makes me think the shadow may be bigger than the individual players or cliques. I am actually looking forward to having "noobs" and '"lesser' competitors" around (well except for Jasmine. She is the female Frank in my mind as in I get a headache just thinking about her and her screeching drama")[/QUOTE] OMG, Now I've heard everything.
[QUOTE=ballinbroken;304575]Wow, you guys are so much farther behind than Challenge Forum. They're doing a lot better than this site.[/QUOTE] Who?
[QUOTE=ballinbroken;304575]Wow, you guys are so much farther behind than Challenge Forum. They're doing a lot better than this site.[/QUOTE] That forum also said that Frank/Jillian would be on Exes and had definitive proof that they would be. Don't believe a word they say.
[QUOTE=ballinbroken;304575]Wow, you guys are so much farther behind than **************. They're doing a lot better than this site.[/QUOTE] Maybe you're in the wrong place then. But seriously, there are many reasons not to post everything the moderators know. When I was a moderator, I had to weigh very carefully posting information that came to me from a variety of sources. My fundamental rule was to have two independent sources for every bit of info before putting it out as vevmo's statement of fact. Others do this differently. In the long run, I believe vevmo acts responsibly.
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[QUOTE=V1man;304572]To be fair, the lawsuit filing was written by very competent attorneys based on what they believe they have evidence of to show a jury. Tonya didn't write it.[/QUOTE] To be fair, I didn't think I needed to state that obvious fact given that the headlines didn't read to the effect, "Tonya Cooley's Lawyers Sue MTV", but whatever.
[QUOTE=FishHooks;304591]To be fair, I didn't think I needed to state that obvious fact given that the headlines didn't read to the effect, "Tonya Cooley's Lawyers Sue MTV", but whatever.[/QUOTE] I really was writing for others, not you. Hell, you read the entire complaint. How many people have actually done that?
[QUOTE=ballinbroken;304575]Wow, you guys are so much farther behind than **************. They're doing a lot better than this site.[/QUOTE] :sarcastic_hand:
[QUOTE=gamer73;304578]Who?[/QUOTE] Lol. The funny thing is I [I]actually [/I]don't know who you guys are talking about.
Haha, ************** probably already knows who won the season that hasn't begun filming yet. They're a joke.
The people rumored to be on the next season so far, doesn't make it sound too interesting. Hopefully Roylee and Zach are on. Idk why they wouldnt bring CT back since he kinda saved the Challenge and boosted ratings, plus people just wanna see the guy win.
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[QUOTE=Challenge_Fan;304606]Haha, ************** probably already knows who won the season that hasn't begun filming yet. They're a joke.[/QUOTE] I tried joining there a couple time but it will never let me for whatever reason. I guess if they are trying to hack your accounts it is a good thing it wouldn't let me....strange thing to try since I don't see why they would do that.
[QUOTE=ballinbroken;304575]Wow, you guys are so much farther behind than **************. They're doing a lot better than this site.[/QUOTE] Clearly you don't get it. This thread is for you to pointlessly speculate how the next season is going to be filmed on the moon. This thread is for you to pointlessly speculate how the Jersey Shore cast will be on the next season. This thread is for you to pointlessly speculate how cast members wearing Nike shoes do better than those wearing Adidas. This thread is for you to talk about CT page after page after page after page even though he is not going to be on the next challenge. This thread is not a place where we are posting our research. That is something we work on behind the scenes to double and triple check validity - to get it right the first time. Some other places have a method called: Guessing everyone. That's just not how we do things here. We find the [U]actual cast[/U] and when we have it, we post it. Honestly, I don't even read this thread unless I want a good chuckle. The entire point was to see how far off topic, if unmoderated, a thread would go. Let's say all expectations have not only been met, they have been exceeded. If there was no a title, the average person would have no idea what this thread is about (although I think their first guess would be CT or Ev.) That out of the way, feel free to get back to what you were doing. I'll throw in some random stuff so you don't miss a beat... 1. I think the challenge will be on the dark side of the moon. 2. This season will be hosted by a closeted vampire. 3. Everyone who ever said they are retired will be on this challenge. 4. There are at least 15 male competitors stronger than CT. 5. Snooki wins!
[QUOTE=Bacchus;304618]This thread is for you to pointlessly speculate how the Jersey Shore cast will be on the next season. .[/QUOTE] lol i actually had a dream about that. Sarah and Jenn went against Snooki and Jwoww in a Jungle. Sarah and Jenn lost and then Johnny Bananas told Jwoww to shove the silicone in her left tit up her ***. it was awesome. /tangent
[QUOTE=V1man;303921]Look up the challenges on wikipedia. A quick review of past challenges should and you should be able to speculate about more than a BFF theme. Sociogram confluences are also another good indicator when you have more names to work with.[/QUOTE] V1man also noted in the previous thread that he was 95% positive it would not be an individual challenge (unless I misinterpreted the comment). I know this is *pointless* speculation, but given these quotes from a trusted source who knows many cast members AND the media industry, I would imagine the challenge is in fact a repeated, albeit possibly updated version of a past challenge format with pairs. And given that, I stick by my speculation that it is a Battle of the Seasons 2 (10 year anniversary of the first), but possibly there is more than one team per season in some cases. As per TSPKM2's post, the following people MAY be on based on social networking: Frank-SD 2.0, Nate-SD 2.0, Zach-SD 2.0, Sam-SD 2.0, Mike- DC, Emily-DC, Jasmine-Cancun, Kelly Anne-Sydney, Dunbar-Sydney, Nehmiah-Austin, Wes-Austin, Trishelle-LV 1.0, Coral-B2NY, Mark-RR USA, Shane-RR CC, Brandon-FM2, Laurel-FM2 The ones who strike me as more interesting are Mike Manning (DC), KellyAnne, Trishelle, Coral and Shane. If it is guy/girl format, then I think Mike's appearance in this list makes sense b/c that would allow Emily to come back. Shane would also allow Rachel to be on again. Dunbar is always willing to go, so that allows KA to go (since none of the other girls or guys from Sydney seem like they will do anymore challenges, except Cohutta, but KA-Cohutta would be too much like Exes format). Trishelle, Mark and Coral confuse things a bit as to who their partners would be (esp. Mark!), but they may not even be on at all. We also don't know for sure that all the SD boys are on, but I could see Frank-Ashley and Zach-Sam pairings if they wanted 2 SD teams. And I'd look out for CJ as Jasmine's partner if in fact she is on. The absence of CM, Mandi and other FM2ers would make sense in that Laurel and Brandon would be the two most known competitors, and neither was on last season. Also, since Kenny and Evan likely will not do another challenge til post-lawsuit, the only other FM1 possibility seems to be Big Easy (or maybe Ryan?), with the only likely options for his partner to be Casey or Diem (and I would guess Diem would not want to do it again after spending so much time away from her charity for Exes). So I would monitor Eric, Ryan and Casey's twitters. And CT, Tyler, Johnny and Paula not being on makes sense, as I doubt any of the girls from CT's season will do another challenge, and we know Paula would, but they probably do not want her paired with Johnny or Tyler, given how they all have won the past 2 challenges (and according to Johnny, want new winners). Finally, I know Nany has wanted to do a challenge and got screwed on the last one, and MTV would be dumb not to have her on as a fan fave, so I would also watch for clues that Leroy, Dustin or Mike are on. If this doesn't end up matching up after all, then I'll gladly eat my words, but even though I don't post much, I read through everything, and I'm just trying to make the speculation a little more directed, albeit possibly still *pointless.* :)
This will be a team challenge, and one of the teams will be made up of show critics/diehard fans. I'll freely admit that my shots are up to date, have a valid passport, have been working out a lot lately, and took a test last week. This is the first and only time I intend to engage in outing cast members in a future challenge. Thank you, Bacchus, for making my day complete.

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