The Challenge: Summer 2012 - Pre-Departure Speculation (Spoilers)

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[QUOTE=usanike;304084]gay vs straight[/QUOTE] What team would Ty be on this challenge?
[QUOTE=TSPKM2;304078]Shane would fit perfectly into a Battle of the Seasons format with either Rachel or wishfully thinking, Kendal. 13 or 14 pairs of 2 from their original RW/RR/FM seasons, could explain why Cara Maria might not be on cause Laurel would take the FM girl spot. And explains why Tyler might not be on, Johnny takes his spot. The only hang ups are Wes and Nehmiah couldnt both be on, and neither could Frank and Zach...so idk[/QUOTE] That is a possibility especially since they're getting random people. It could be same *** pairs, if its opposite *** pairs then Nehemiah's partner will most likely be Melinda. and I told you guys Wes didnt know the difference between "couple" and "few" because I dont think they visited each other yet since he's still in KC(ppl tagging him in **** in KC) and please no more Johnny 3 in a row is enough. Make that other Hispanic dude represent Key West, lol that is if its battle of the seasons but it does sound like a good idea, at least its different. I hope its not just pairs of 2. They should have 3 teams. I dont think anyone wants to see anymore pairs challenges for a while. Lol gay vs straight would be cool too, Ty, Emily, Laurel and Wes can be on the gay team, lol these past few challenges themes have been weak anyways lol or at least the gay tendencies team. Kenny and Evan can also make it on the gay team because their bromance is questionable especially the whole showering naked thing. Oh so can CT since it was rumored that he had a thing with some dude (I think Shane) and he used to flirt with Tyler. Lol ok I'm taking this too far.
[QUOTE=Blue123;304086]That is a possibility especially since they're getting random people. It could be same *** pairs, if its opposite *** pairs then Nehemiah's partner will most likely be Melinda. and I told you guys Wes didnt know the difference between "couple" and "few" because I dont think they visited each other yet since he's still in KC(ppl tagging him in **** in KC) and please no more Johnny 3 in a row is enough. Make that other Hispanic dude represent Key West, lol that is if its battle of the seasons but it does sound like a good idea, at least its different. I hope its not just pairs of 2. They should have 3 teams. I dont think anyone wants to see anymore pairs challenges for a while. Lol gay vs straight would be cool too, Ty, Emily, Laurel and Wes can be on the gay team, lol these past few challenges themes have been weak anyways lol or at least the[COLOR="Red"] gay tendencies team[/COLOR]. Kenny and Evan can also make it on the gay team because their bromance is questionable especially the whole showering naked thing.[/QUOTE] It would be HILARIOUS to put Zach on this team. It would drive him nuts. That would be good tv for me just watching him frank out.
[QUOTE=Inglorious;304087]It would be HILARIOUS to put Zach on this team. It would drive him nuts. That would be good tv for me just watching him frank out.[/QUOTE] Lol I think it would be funny if CT/Wes/Kenny and Evan were put on a gay tendencies team and I think Zack would quit if he was put on a team called that haha honestly a format like that would be like turning the challenge into a joke but I would love it! :D
[QUOTE=Blue123;304088]Lol I think it would be funny if CT/Wes/Kenny and Evan were put on a gay tendencies team and I think Zack would quit if he was put on a team called that haha honestly a format like that would be [COLOR="Red"]like turning the challenge into a joke [/COLOR]but I would love it! :D[/QUOTE] IMO, in many ways the challenge is a joke in a sense that many hilarious antics go on in the house. Oh, and I have another funny one. It would be hilarious for Vinny and Knight to put on their borat swimsuit on and chase Zach around. I think his heart would give out before he got a chance to book a flight home.
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Straight v. GLBT would be a horrible PR move. Every time the straight team won, bullying accusations would fly across the webbernet.
[QUOTE=Inglorious;304089]IMO, in many ways the challenge is a joke in a sense that many hilarious antics go on in the house. Oh, and I have another funny one. It would be hilarious for Vinny and Knight to put on their borat swimsuit on and chase Zach around. I think his heart would give out before he got a chance to book a flight home.[/QUOTE] Lol oh god thats disturbing, I think Zack is too serious for the challenge. On rivals they all dressed up in togas and the guys were wearing it like a thong with their *** hanging out **** I dont see Zack letting loose and doing that. And this format could happen some of those rivalries/hookups were jokes too.
They could name the challenge lgbt versus straight. Imagine if Jenn were still around and they put her on the lgbt team, she'd probably freak out, throw a hissy fit, punch someone, not get kicked off for it, so have to leave herself.
[QUOTE=FishHooks;304091]Straight v. GLBT would be a horrible PR move. Every time the straight team won, bullying accusations would fly across the webbernet.[/QUOTE] I get what you are saying. I'm sure people would even speculate that BMP would be rigging challenges to favor a specific team. But just to play devil's advocate, it could be an opportunity for massive exposure to the diversity of the LGBTQ community and could be a story of triumph over oppression. Lol, that would be a funny challenge to watch.
[QUOTE=Blue123;304092]Lol oh god thats disturbing, I think Zack is too serious for the challenge. On rivals they all dressed up in togas and the guys were wearing it like a thong with their *** hanging out **** I dont see Zack letting loose and doing that. And this format could happen some of those rivalries/hookups were jokes too.[/QUOTE] Now that you bring it up, I remember Zack wears like disgustingly tight panties or thongs on RW SD 2. I don't remember when they showed it because I causes physical pain for me whenever I recall such images.
Pointlessly, I am sitting here thinking about the next challenge. Since Mark Long was such a hit, maybe extend that theme of Old School Vets from either Real World or Road Rules they could pair up the original G's and tailor the challenges to more fun/funny challenges. My hope is that they wipe out the "fresh meat" and aim for a FUN theme. Ahh fresh meat free!
[QUOTE=BellaLissa;304108]Pointlessly, I am sitting here thinking about the next challenge. Since Mark Long was such a hit, maybe extend that theme of Old School Vets from either Real World or Road Rules they could pair up the original G's and tailor the challenges to more fun/funny challenges. My hope is that they wipe out the "fresh meat" and aim for a FUN theme. Ahh fresh meat free![/QUOTE] They won't get rid of the Fresh Meat... Laurel and Brandon are fan favorites, and of course, the lovely Kenny and Evan. I fully expect to have at least one Fresh Meat on the next challenge.
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[QUOTE=Rico_Inferno;304115]They won't get rid of the Fresh Meat... Laurel and Brandon are fan favorites, and of course, the lovely Kenny and Evan. I fully expect to have at least one Fresh Meat on the next challenge.[/QUOTE] If they got rid of the FM, there would be no show. The RW alums are too wishy-washy about the Challenges but that is the sole reason the FM casts came in from get-go. I would like to see more RW members on the show, but that just isn't going to happen.
Yeah, but cant they make RW cast do challenges, like isnt it in the contract that they can be called to do a challenge or something? There are so many RW alums that havent done a challenge that I would love to see Knight-NOLA Jemmye-NOLA McKenzie-NOLA Ryan-NOLA Callie-DC Ashley-DC Trisha-Sydney Parisa-Sydney Will-Hollywood Baya-Brooklyn Bronne-Cancun Zach-San Diego Ashley-San Diego just to name some. I dont mind Laurel, Mandi, Cara Maria and Brandon from Fresh Meat 2...they can come back.
I think it is unfair to say that FM 2 sucks. Yes, I am not a fan of CM, laurel, Terresa, and Luke. These people are obviously clowns and drama queens, which is starting to get old. However, I think there are others that would be great competitors. For example, I think Noor is a great well rounded competitor. He is definitely nimble and agile, which juxtaposes perfectly with the roided up giants like Johnny or Dummybear. Plus Noor doesn't strike me as a dumb guy. He figured out the FM puzzle very quickly and knew when to keep his mouth shut around Jenn. Saying that all FM 2 do not deserve a spot is slighted considering that BMP has untapped talent. Sad. I don't think we will ever see Noor ever again.
I also want to say that I absolutely want to see Frank on a challenge. I know a lot of people think of him as a loud mouth and cry baby, which is true. But I think an important aspect that people are not realizing (or maybe they do and I just don't know) is that Frank is a brilliant manipulator. He turned an entire house that HATED him against his enemy, Zack. That to me is speaks volumes about Frank, and I don't think others realize just how manipulative he is. Personally, I'd love to see him get in it with the likes of Johnny Evan Wes and other master manipulators and see who comes out on top. Plus, it is not like Frank is a fatty. I'm sure he is at least a middle of the pack kind of guy in terms of strength. OH! And Frank is supposed to have a biology degree. So we know he has some sort of critical thinking skills that can be used for puzzle solving. This is something that the current crop of Challengers sorely lack... My opinion, he would be an average competitor if he can control his emotions and be serious about the game, which I think are the 2 Achilles heel of Frank.
Frank would get destroyed in the manipulation game and physical game, and would end up going home crying calling his mommy. Guaranteed.
[QUOTE=TSPKM2;304126]Frank would get destroyed in the manipulation game and physical game, and would end up going home crying calling his mommy. Guaranteed.[/QUOTE] But he would have a better shot than Knight, Ryan, Preston, or Nate. I don't think that fatties and guys who are more slender than some of the girls on the show will fair very well. But that is just my opinion.
[QUOTE=BellaLissa;304108]Pointlessly, I am sitting here thinking about the next challenge. Since Mark Long was such a hit, maybe extend that theme of Old School Vets from either Real World or Road Rules they could pair up the original G's and tailor the challenges to more fun/funny challenges. [B]My hope is that they wipe out the "fresh meat" and aim for a FUN theme. Ahh fresh meat free[/B]![/QUOTE] I would hope for this too but Sadly it's probably not going to happen. And Honestly I would like to see Frank on a challenge. I think he could bring some Fresh entertainment to the show.
[QUOTE=Inglorious;304127]But he would have a better shot than Knight, Ryan, Preston, or Nate. I don't think that fatties and guys who are more slender than some of the girls on the show will fair very well. But that is just my opinion.[/QUOTE] Uh which one of those 4 is fat? Knight and Nate may be stocky but I would hardly call them fat. I think Knight would fair much better in a challenge than Frank. Knight is much more personable, and he has the looks and mentality of an athlete. Frank is not very personable, he may have muscle tone but, but clearly muscles dont mean much in a challnge...ask Ty. Plus Frank is mentally unstable, I would be surprised if he even passed the psych evaluation.
What does everybody mean by "fun" challenges? Like dressing up in a chicken suit and running around with bird feed in your mouth? Cause I thought those challenges were lam and kinda boring. I like swimming challenges....heights challenges...obsticle coarses...pretty much anything that has to do with athletic ability is ideal.
[QUOTE=TSPKM2;304134]What does everybody mean by "fun" challenges? Like dressing up in a chicken suit and running around with bird feed in your mouth? Cause I thought those challenges were lam and kinda boring. I like swimming challenges....heights challenges...obsticle coarses...pretty much anything that has to do with athletic ability is ideal.[/QUOTE] I think there can be a happy median between super silly and super intense challenges. I think Gauntlet 2 and Inferno 2 both had some good challenges that were semi-intense, but not to the point where it's no longer fun to watch.
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[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;304137]I think there can be a happy median between super silly and super intense challenges. I think Gauntlet 2 and Inferno 2 both had some good challenges that were semi-intense, but not to[B] the point where it's no longer fun to watch[/B].[/QUOTE] For me there is a palpable difference between Challenges where the cast enjoys themselves and one where they do not that translates into the edit. I don't know that there would be a significant difference in the quality of the show in the types of challenges if the cast wasn't at least semi-happy with their experiences.
The people that are serious about the game and winning are the people that like and have fun doing the serious challenges. It's people like Katie, Casey, Johanna, and probably Naomi and Priscilla that dont have fun doing the serious challenges and want more silly challenges, because they arent demanding and require little to no coordination.
Can everyone try to remember this is a SPECULATION thread ;-)
[QUOTE=TSPKM2;304141]The people that are serious about the game and winning are the people that like and have fun doing the serious challenges. It's people like Katie, Casey, Johanna, and probably Naomi and Priscilla that dont have fun doing the serious challenges and want more silly challenges, because they arent demanding and require little to no coordination.[/QUOTE] Naomi and Priscilla (who didn't last long) did only one challenge. Its not completely fair to say that she doesn't like to do the cfhallenges no matter what she said online. Who knows they could come back stronger and have a different outlook.
I, once again, am throwing this out there. Since we've seen an odd group of people so far hinting at being on the challenge or just from speculation, I believe it will have some sort of old vs. new format. The point from which we tell who is old and who is new is uncertain to me, since, for example, Nehemiah has been speculated, he is sort of in the middle from the new or old standpoint. I would certainly love that as a pair challenge, or even if they were to do another Battle of the Seasons, I would be happy.
[URL="http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=13378"][IMG]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/29434fab160cb5ccb.jpg[/IMG][/URL] KellyAnne doing some intense training.
[QUOTE=TSPKM2;304078]Shane would fit perfectly into a Battle of the Seasons format with either Rachel or wishfully thinking, Kendal. 13 or 14 pairs of 2 from their original RW/RR/FM seasons, could explain why Cara Maria might not be on cause Laurel would take the FM girl spot. And explains why Tyler might not be on, Johnny takes his spot. The only hang ups are Wes and Nehmiah couldnt both be on, and neither could Frank and Zach...so idk[/QUOTE] I thought the same exact thing regarding it being a Battle of the Seasons, especially after V1 said something about looking through past formats in response to wild speculation of a new theme. I think if Shane is in fact on, then it would very likely be due to the fact that he fit the format of this challenge, as I don't see him being that relevant otherwise. Which further cements my hunch it is BOTS since I'd assume he would be the partner for Rachel, who HAS been quite relevant. Also, IF that fb post from Mike (DC) to Emily was a "clue," then that would make sense, too, b/c while I'm sure Ty would go again, they wouldn't repeat a pairing that's JUST been done on exes. And I know Nany wants to go and they want her, so Dustin's cryptic tweets could be related to that, though I'm sure Leroy would also be down to go, and fans love him. Sooo, if it IS BOTS (since this is the pointless speculation thread), then it would be interesting to see if the likely partner for the speculated cast members thus far (Nehemiah, Frank, etc.) shows any clues on twitter/fb/etc. So Melinda, for example. It could also be M/M or F/F pairs, so Frank/Zach, Wes/Nehemiah, etc., but the Emily/Mike fb post confuses that (which, I know, may not even mean anything challenge-related). Just my two cents! :)
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Johnny was a guest on thedirty radio show and basically said he will not be on the next challenge. He normally would have just said we will see but he basically said don't expect him to be there they want someone else to win. He didn't seem happy about it.

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