Is it only me that thinks Diem had a right to get mad at CT for hooking up with Shauvon like that. If Diem hooked up/dated someone in the house there would another scene from the CT/ADAM fight. He would go crazy... Anyone else agree/disagree?
[QUOTE=jls823;298797]Is it only me that thinks Diem had a right to get mad at CT for hooking up with Shauvon like that. If Diem hooked up/dated someone in the house there would another scene from the CT/ADAM fight. He would go crazy... Anyone else agree/disagree?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure about having a "right" to become that upset. Once you've broken up, you're broken up. That's how I'd look at the situation intelligently.
HOWEVER! =) I find our emotion knocks out our intelligence when the emotions involved are hurt feelings, love, and jealousy. And alcohol is like the starting bell to the boxing match.
Had I been in Diem's position I probably would've reacted to CT hooking up with Shauvon in the same narcissistic, drama queen manner. Even though I'd know, intelligently, that I'm technically in the wrong, my hurt feelings and jealousy are going to overpower any logic. It's very difficult to gauge what is the right or wrong reaction when your emotions are that raw and alcohol is involved.
I've said before I'm not too fond of BMP Diem, but I do cut her some slack when it comes to her relationship with CT. I've broken up with someone I was in love with, and let me tell you it was one of the hardest things to get over in my life, no exaggeration. It's even harder than someone you're in love with breaking up with you, because at least when someone breaks up with you, they've closed the door. When you break up with someone you're still in love with, you're haunted by what ifs, maybes, etc. even when you know deep down you made the right decision. Especially when you see that person finally move on. I made the same mistakes she did-- talking about it way too much, overreacting, saying hurtful things because you're so frustrated, etc. In Diem's case, maybe she's also been a little embarrassed because it's being filmed and so has thrown out whatever she can say to "get him back".
Yes, Diem can be annoying and immature in regards to CT but she's also human. And he's not exactly the poster boy for appropriate "ex' behavior himself.
I agree with Matty. She does not technically have a right to get mad,since she dumped him....BUT like Matt said she is human. I don't care if I was the dumper or the dumpee, having someone I once was in a serious relationship with,had *** with,talked about marriage,etc,have *** in the same house I was staying in,that would mess me up quite a bit.
Why is everyone saying that Diem doesn't have a right to be mad since she was the one who broke up with CT? Yeah, she broke up with him.. but it wasn't because she didn't want to be with him anymore, she just wanted to put her career first at the time and thought that they would resume their relationship after she got her career on track. Diem was obviously still very much in love with him by the time the Duel II came about. Why wouldn't she be upset that CT was hooking up with Shauvon of all people, while she was under the same roof? It's disrespectful.
If Diem claimed to have no interest at all when it came to rekindling her relationship with CT at the time, then I would concur with everyone who believes she has no right to be upset. But she didn't.. and I feel as though she had a right to feel hurt.
I'm not trying to get everyone on Team Diem here, but rather put her view into perspective. Feel free to disagree.
[QUOTE=V1man;298772]Hold that thought. The subject will continue to be addressed during next week's Aftershow when Diem appears to tell her side.[/QUOTE]
I am very interested in hearing Diem's side of the story. On the most recent after show, CT put all of the blame for the fight on himself because he was the one who didn't want to talk things out earlier. This week, I am wondering if Diem will take some, all, or none of the blame on the after show. She tweeted something about production showing barely anything of the very long fight. I'm sure she'll have something to say about CT's alleged comment about her mother along with much more.
[QUOTE=greenmonster;298824]She tweeted something about production showing barely anything of the very long fight.[/QUOTE]
I think she was talking about the fight for power couple with Camila:
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[QUOTE=spectacular;298821]Why is everyone saying that Diem doesn't have a right to be mad since she was the one who broke up with CT? Yeah, she broke up with him.. but it wasn't because she didn't want to be with him anymore, she just wanted to put her career first at the time and thought that they would resume their relationship after she got her career on track. Diem was obviously still very much in love with him by the time the Duel II came about. Why wouldn't she be upset that CT was hooking up with Shauvon of all people, while she was under the same roof? [B][B]It's disrespectful. [/B][/B]
If Diem claimed to have no interest at all when it came to rekindling her relationship with CT at the time, then I would concur with everyone who believes she has no right to be upset. But she didn't.. and I feel as though she had a right to feel hurt.
I'm not trying to get everyone on Team Diem here, but rather put her view into perspective. Feel free to disagree.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and I'd suppose you would think its not disrespectful that she didn't even show up for his brother's funeral.
No matter what angle you look at it, Diem's position is indefensible. She broke up with him because she cared about her career first. If that's what she wants in life, that's perfectly fine. But yes, she has no right to be mad at what he does thereafter because she was the one who broke it off and made the decision. What's CT supposed to do, sit around and act like he loves her and do nothing? That's ridiculous.
[QUOTE=The Beast;298955][B]Yeah, and I'd suppose you would think its not disrespectful that she didn't even show up for his brother's funeral.[/B]
No matter what angle you look at it, Diem's position is indefensible. She broke up with him because she cared about her career first. If that's what she wants in life, that's perfectly fine. But yes, she has no right to be mad at what he does thereafter because she was the one who broke it off and made the decision. What's CT supposed to do, sit around and act like he loves her and do nothing? That's ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Since Diem's inability to be at the funeral had nothing to do with a lack of respect to CT, his brother or his family, you are simply factually wrong. After the runion show is over, should Diem not have explained by then what actually happened, I will do so here.
[QUOTE=eggs78;298950]I think she was talking about the fight for power couple with Camila:
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Thank you for finding that! I must have skimmed the tweet and assumed it was about the fight with CT. I stand corrected.
Why all the Diem hate??? I like her and so what if she cared about her career first; alot of women do. Why is it that she gets all the blame? Has it occured to anyone that she tolde CT her plans and he did not support her? Has it occured to anyone that she may not have been present at his brother's funeral for a reason that may be too personal to discuss? Has it occured to anyone that maybe she didn't intorduce CT to her dad because she feels as if she is not good enough for CT? Imjustsayin look at both view points. It seems like CT is the fan favorite so people will do anything to make him look better than her in this situation, but maybe Diem has a lot of stories about screwed up things he did to her too but, she justs does'ny reveal them vecause she is not trying to tarnish his name like her's is being tarnished. Everyone is just soooo obsessed with CT that they think he can do no wrong nd he probably did her very wrong.
I know this is kind of random, but I saw the movie "Friends with Kids" last night, and couldn't get over how identical the main character, Jennifer Westfeldt (Jon Hamm's girlfriend) and Diem are. They look, act, and talk exactly the same, especially in the film. Take a look here...
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmiALTVQ_BY]Jennifer Westfeldt - YouTube[/url]
ok, it's been a little quiet around here so here goes.... Is Dien about to get married? I read somewhere that she maybe engaged. Also why did Cara Maria say that Diem broke up with dude before the show? Is she with him or not....Also that chick does'nt look like Diem. She acts like her but, they don't look alike.
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;300236]ok, it's been a little quiet around here so here goes.... Is Dien about to get married? [B]I read somewhere that she maybe engaged[/B]. Also why did Cara Maria say that Diem broke up with dude before the show? Is she with him or not....Also that chick does'nt look like Diem. She acts like her but, they don't look alike.[/QUOTE]
I wonder where you read that because there is no indication on Facebook or Twitter that she is even in a relationship. There are plenty of pictures/posts about her family and friends but none of her boyfriend. It's weird because his Facebook profile is like a tribute to her. He used to update his profile regularly but hasn't in a month. Poor guy!
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On afterbuzz tv after the episode of love and marriage, the topic of CT and Diem came up and Tyler from Key West was there. He said he had seen Diem's boyfriend at the gym and he knows for a fact that CT and Diem are not getting back together. Then the chick that hosts afterbuzz tv said she saw Diem at the beach and she was with some guy so she must still be in a relationship.
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;300243]On afterbuzz tv after the episode of love and marriage, the topic of CT and Diem came up and Tyler from Key West was there. He said he had seen Diem's boyfriend at the gym and he knows for a fact that CT and Diem are not getting back together. Then the chick that hosts afterbuzz tv said she saw Diem at the beach and she was with some guy so she must still be in a relationship.[/QUOTE]
Just because she was at the beach with a guy does not necessarily mean that guy was her boyfriend. People do hang out with other people of the opposite ***.
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;300243]On afterbuzz tv after the episode of love and marriage, the topic of CT and Diem came up and Tyler from Key West was there. He said he had seen Diem's boyfriend at the gym and he knows for a fact that CT and Diem are not getting back together. Then the chick that hosts afterbuzz tv said she saw Diem at the beach and she was with some guy so she must still be in a relationship.[/QUOTE]
Ummm, what Cara Maria said is interesting though. Cara Maria maybe crazy but I don't think she'll lie about someone she's supposedly close to. Vman said Diem didn't knew the format but she knew CT would be there. I really think she thought that CT would apologize and would try to reconcile that's why she broke up with her boyfriend before the challenge.
[SIZE="3"][/SIZE][SIZE="5"][/SIZE][QUOTE=eggs78;300255]Ummm, what Cara Maria said is interesting though. Cara Maria maybe crazy but I don't think she'll lie about someone she's supposedly close to. Vman said Diem didn't knew the format but she knew CT would be there. I really think she thought that CT would apologize and would try to reconcile [B]that's why she broke up with her boyfriend[/B] before the challenge.[/QUOTE]
[B][SIZE="3"]ORLY?[/SIZE][/B]
Frank, I resent in the most personal terms that you would in any way attempt to associate a comment by me with your own personal speculation about a sideways rumor from Cara Maria.
[QUOTE=molds13;300252]Just because she was at the beach with a guy does not necessarily mean that guy was her boyfriend. People do hang out with other people of the opposite sex.[/QUOTE]
The guy who left the message "Good seeing you at the beach.....Stagecoach ticket search time" on her Facebook on March 4 is not her boyfriend.
[QUOTE=V1man;300258] Frank, I resent in the most personal terms that you would in any way attempt to associate a comment by me with your own personal speculation about a sideways rumor from Cara Maria.[/QUOTE]
Forgive me but isn't that what we do here? We put our own speculation on facts to try to piece things together. I do find it odd that whenever people suggested a reconciliation you would shut it down because of the boyfriend Diem refuses to acknowledge in spite of the fact the he built a Facebook shine to her. The more obvious reason would be on CT's side of the equation.
Why would Cara Maria spread rumors about a person she clearly loves? This "rumor" combined with the fact that we learned about her relationship through other people, not Diem herself, makes her seem disingenuous. Why not be more open about her relationship? Her boyfriend clearly is. Aside from the fact that she speaks in “hallmark cards” as other posters have pointed out, I think she says things just to please people and is extremely conscious of her image to the point that she keeps abreast of what is posted here. This was removed from her favorites as soon as I posted it:
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Ok yes you can spend time with friends of the oposite ***, my bad. I think I have seen a picture of Diem's boyfriend at Tori and Brad's wedding and Diem just posted a pic of her and some friends out for St. Patrick's day on her twitter. I think this is the same dude. So she's still with him. Someone said they heard she was getting married on her twitter, that's where I heard the rumor.
[QUOTE=eggs78;300271]The guy who left the message "Good seeing you at the beach.....Stagecoach ticket search time" on her Facebook on March 4 is not her boyfriend.
[B]Forgive me but isn't that what we do here?[/B] We put our own speculation on facts to try to piece things together. I do find it odd that whenever people suggested a reconciliation you would shut it down because of the boyfriend Diem refuses to acknowledge in spite of the fact the he built a Facebook shine to her. The more obvious reason would be on CT's side of the equation.
Why would Cara Maria spread rumors about a person she clearly loves? This "rumor" combined with the fact that we learned about her relationship through other people, not Diem herself, makes her seem disingenuous. Why not be more open about her relationship? Her boyfriend clearly is. Aside from the fact that she speaks in “hallmark cards” as other posters have pointed out, I think she says things just to please people and is extremely conscious of her image to the point that she keeps abreast of what is posted here. This was removed from her favorites as soon as I posted it:
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Sorry, not forgiven. What you or others do here is really none of my concern as it relates to my own motivation. I take my guidance elsewhere.
Diem is clearly reading vevmo. That favorite post about sexual frustration with CT is gone from her twitter and she deleted picture from St. Patrick's day or I can't find it.
Yea your right. I went to her twitter last night and the picture was there. It was her, some other blonde chick and the dude she appeared to be with at Tori's wedding. Now it's gone. I don't know, maybe she does'nt want everyone knowing about him because that's her private life. But, obviously she is still with him because Tyler said he seen her bf at the gym and talked to him. Also in the spoilers, it was revealed that she was in a relationship. Maybe she is not allowed to talk about him while on the challenge. Maybe Mtv thought it would lower ratings. I dunno but, it is weird.
[QUOTE=mizwood;300281][B]Diem is clearly reading vevmo[/B]. That favorite post about sexual frustration with CT is gone from her twitter and she deleted picture from St. Patrick's day or I can't find it.[/QUOTE]
Or something like that...
The Challenge is a TV show, not real life. Sometimes when one tries to have a real, private life, fan(atic)s get in the way.
[QUOTE=V1man;300279] What you or others do here is really none of my concern as it relates to my own motivation. [/QUOTE]
Then what’s all the fuss about if none of this is any of your concern? I really do not understand your motivation since you did not refute any of the points I made in the post you quoted.
[QUOTE=V1man;300295] Sometimes when one tries to have a real, private life, fan(atic)s get in the way.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;300282] I don't know, maybe she does'nt want everyone knowing about him because that's her private life. [/QUOTE]
Since when has Diem been private about her private life?! We know the names and faces of her family and she tags friends all the time. The only thing not obvious is her relationship status until last night when she posted a picture of the guy just minutes after it was questioned here. Even then, you wouldn’t know he was her boyfriend unless you knew what he looks like since she didn’t name him or tag him. If you’re in a serious relationship or been with someone for as long as she’s been with this guy, shouldn’t it be a little more evident especially since he’s not exactly keeping it a secret?
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;300282]Maybe she is not allowed to talk about him while on the challenge. Maybe Mtv thought it would lower ratings. [/QUOTE]
CT has not changed his “in a relationship” status on Facebook nor has he taken down pictures of him and his girlfriend. You can even find a recent picture of them in Wire Image, a public photo agency.
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;300284]Maybe they broke up and got back together. So she took em' off and has'nt put them back up yet IDK.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;300282] I dunno but, it is weird.[/QUOTE]
So who do you believe? Cara Maria who says she broke up with him or her boyfriend who hasn’t taken down his Diem shine at any point during the last year? Yes, the whole situation is weird and makes Diem look shady. It doesn’t really help her case that she makes adjustments to her social networks based on posts here.
Or maybe there are a whole bunch of crazies who only want Diem to be with CT and vice versa and she doesn't want to subject her boyfriend to online harrassment?? I don't see how it makes her look shady. Its her private life and maybe she is just protecting him..
[QUOTE=eggs78;300324]So who do you believe? Cara Maria who says she broke up with him or her boyfriend who hasn’t taken down his Diem shine at any point during the last year? Yes, the whole situation is weird and makes Diem look shady. It doesn’t really help her case that she makes adjustments to her social networks based on posts here.[/QUOTE]
Would you like your very own thread here so people can scrutinize your every move and criticize the privacy of your Facebook? Your (and other members') obsession with Diem's personal life, which is veering off into harrassment territory (let's not forget she's a new member here, and member harrassment is against the TOS), is what has caused this thread to be closed in the past week. Take the hint. We are not going to allow this thread to become a lightning rod for crazed Diem witch hunters. It's tiring and getting out of control. This is the last warning.
[QUOTE=V1man;298956]Since Diem's inability to be at the funeral had nothing to do with a lack of respect to CT, his brother or his family, you are simply factually wrong.[B] After the runion show is over, should Diem not have explained by then what actually happened, I will do so here[/B].[/QUOTE]
I was just wondering if you were ever going to enlighten us and confirm the actual reason for Diem missing CT's brother's funeral?
That is assuming you have somethibg better than her excuse of booking the wrong flight.
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;302148]I was just wondering if you were ever going to enlighten us and confirm the actual reason for Diem missing CT's brother's funeral?
That is assuming you have somethibg better than her excuse of booking the wrong flight.[/QUOTE]
Yes, there is something better. Patience please.
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